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I've stood up for both. Nice firm handshake too.

They might SAY they value marriage as much as ever, but they actually value GETTING married more than they value BEING married. Everything's changed in the last 60 years. It's deteriorated over time. They want the ring. They want the lavish wedding. They want the assets. Not all of them want...

Fvck 'em. Every single one of them. Read your OP. Which one of your family members is sitting there with you going through EVERY SINGLE ASPECT of your divorce? And they want to wish that on you all over again? Nah man. If anything, this thread has reinforced my train of thought to QUALIFY...

Do NOT marry this woman ever. You all also missed the very obvious shift in the conversation. You talk to her about your car, she turned it into a conversation about YOU and your relationships and you kept rolling with HER conversation instead of getting back to yours. I'd tread VERY...

I'd rather spend my time with someone who was worth it.

Problem is, you are looking at the wrong "light at the end of the tunnel". It's not the princess. That's just something that happens along the way, whether it's one woman or many. There is no end-game here where you get to say, "I'm done. I did it." You are always moving towards something, but...

This is cyclical. I've gone through this as well. To the point where you have those weeks/months that you hate them because you KNOW everything, to weeks/months where you just keep them around for the entertainment and "companionship". My advice? Take a break. Fill up that off-work time...

See, and all you had to do was NOT respond to her text. You learned, sure... and it could have been much worse. But never ignore the red flags. Thanks for posting though, because hopefully this will serve as a reminder to anyone else what they could possibly encounter in situations like this.

If all of those women are living off Social Security checks, they'd have no younger men.

Then send them to yourself, if that is true. Otherwise, I call BS.

Good lord, why in the BLUE HELL are you still on board with the flowers idea? It's a TERRIBLE idea. You asked, people said NO and now you are trying to float out on this forum what you should say on the flowers? This is how the "flowers" are going to go. You are going to send them and...

They probably still don't have an issue with any of those things, they are just grasping at straws for ways that could possibly cut down your ego. That's all. You hurt them, they'll try to hurt you back with whatever stupid reason they can.

Don't do it. This reason will be magnified times A THOUSAND. Don't move in with her. Let her solve her own problems and take care of her own problems. Trust me, you are in for a WORLD OF HURT if you two move in together. DON'T. DON'T. DON'T.

In Puerto Rico it is til 21 but the mothers will hit you up with guilt trips up until the kids are graduated from college. After that, they'll hit you up again for weddings, sickness, etc, etc, etc... It stops "legally" but it goes beyond that. One of the reasons why I moved away. Eff that...

She was probably the reason you lacked ambition and weren't living up to your potential in the first place. Why go back to that?

Because it's my job. I don't care about her satisfaction. Like I said in the original post. If this were any other situation, I'd just chuck up my deuces and say, "See you later." Let me rephrase, this isn't just my job, it's my career. The one thing I want to do is handle this gingerly...

Whether I showed "some" AFC qualities or not, it's possible. My mindset was different, I'll admit with her, and that might have rubbed off. Regardless of the reason, it doesn't matter right now. I told her this morning that I have no problem with being friends and that we can keep talking...

I think my problem with this analogy is that on a personal level, I get mad at myself for taking the "best of whatever they've got" even though it's below replacement level. Or if they do have burritos, it's 17 for $1. I know I shouldn't be eating them, but I know I wanted one, but I know it's...

Yeah, trust me, I've already discarded her as any type of "LTR" status, strictly because of my own signature. I could never see her in that light, ever again... which I guess is the root of my disappointment because she is a very solid 8-9. I see what you guys are saying, I'm going to keep my...

I really haven't made a decision yet about it. But to me it just sounds like she wants to be "friends" without the benefits. Just to keep me around until her dude officially leaves. I just don't see the point on taking her out for dates and not going all the way after we already have.