Women Don't Want a Semi-Successful Man

[SW15]

Okay so, in order to be seen alpha fvcks you just have to be 6'0" and fit? Exactly my point, forget about the money bull$hit and get jacked, women can pay for their own $hit today, but a jacked guy is rare when obesity is almost 40%, and every woman want a hot guy, whether they admit it or not.

I've always said that Game is some combination of looks, money, status, and personality. I believe looks are the most important variable of those 4 variables. Money becomes more relevant without looks. It is also possible to be 6'0"+ and fit and not attract women and that's usually connected to personality/vibe factors.

Unless you are dating a fitness chick, your average normie girl isn't going to know how to handle a guy with sub 12% BF. She thinks six pack abs are because of high metabolism and will pressure you to cheat on your diet and lifestyle eventually. They will never like your chicken breast and broccoli/anabolic diet, so your only option is to do some OMAD/Intermittent fasting which isn't sustainable in the long run. The guy is either going to have to compromise and put on some weight or the relationship will be mediocre at best and lead to other problems.

A guy doesn't need to be below 12% body fat. Even 13-16% can be quite decent.

Fitness chicks are usually 8+ on looks, whereas the normie women you're referring to might be high level normies in the 6-low 7s range. Normie could even mean 5-5.9.

 

[CornbreadFed]

For real man, get the fvck out of the internet with these mediocre advices. When in the world when a guy compromise to soothe the girls anxiety has been a good thing? The mere act of compromised because "I want her to not feel the anxiety of maybe being replaced" will mame the relationship mediocre.

This is just speaks volume of your relationship, your girl has no anxiety or fear you replacing her, cause you "compromise" and that's the beginning of the end. That's Red pill 101.

I am sorry the truth offends you. You are in a dead bedroom situation with your partner despite being jacked. Being jacked might help you get short term sex gains, but it will not help you in long term situations unless you are dating a girl with a similar mindset. You are better off being around 13%-17% BF if you are going to date a normie woman.

 

[CornbreadFed]

A guy doesn't need to be below 12% body fat. Even 13-16% can be quite decent.

Fitness chicks are usually 8+ on looks, whereas the normie women you're referring to might be high level normies in the 6-low 7s range. Normie could even mean 5-5.9.

If you want the pool party show off athletic abs, you are going to need to be at 10%-12% BF. When I was messing around with women before my GF, I was at 10% and it was pretty easy to acquire sex. When I broke up with the Polish chick, I was around 15% BF and this normie chick called me out on it during a date, so there is a difference. Now, we are about to enter a hard disagreement lol. I think Fitness Chicks are mostly butter faces and dull lifestyles. Behind that makeup, their faces tend to be jacked up and they usually have some insecurity issue. A normie chick can be relatively fit, but the "gym" isn't her personality unlike a fitness chick.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Sure get fat for her, what a great advice you give, you should be put in the Hall of Fame

I NEVER said get fat for her. Reread the post please.

You are better off being around 13%-17% BF if you are going to date a normie woman.

13%-17% is not fat whatsoever! If you just date a normie girl on the sole purpose of her liking your abs, then the relationship is going to hit a huge wall after the honeymoon phase ends. This is the main reason why I have so many exes.

 

[SW15]

If you want the pool party show off athletic abs, you are going to need to be at 10%-12% BF. When I was messing around with women before my GF, I was at 10% and it was pretty easy to acquire sex. When I broke up with the Polish chick, I was around 15% BF and this normie chick called me out on it during a date, so there is a difference. Now, we are about to enter a hard disagreement lol. I think Fitness Chicks are mostly butter faces and dull lifestyles. Behind that makeup, their faces tend to be jacked up and they usually have some insecurity issue. A normie chick can be relatively fit, but the "gym" isn't her personality unlike a fitness chick.

10-12% BF is probably more top tier/'Chad' than 13-15% BF, but both are good.

Higher level normies are relatively fit, and those are the women in the 6-7.2 range on looks. 7.3-7.9 is solidly above average and 8+ is elite level territory.

I have seen some fitness chicks with not so good faces. The best combination is a fit woman with good facial aesthetics.

 

[CornbreadFed]

10-12% BF is probably more top tier/'Chad' than 13-15% BF, but both are good.

Ideally you want the Chad athletic swimmer/soccer abs look. Lower in BF makes you look weird and 13%-15% you can pull it off in the morning, but I am too bloated by midday.

Higher level normies are relatively fit, and those are the women in the 6-7.2 range on looks. 7.3-7.9 is solidly above average and 8+ is elite level territory.

Who would you consider elite level territory?

I have seen some fitness chicks with not so good faces. The best combination is a fit woman with good facial aesthetics.

I think it is a mix of the stuff they are eating/taking and not washing their face properly. I hound on my girl to maintain face hygiene after going to the gym because I am not going to date a gym butterface.

 

[SW15]

Am I glad not to be dating in America.

Western European women are not known to be stellar either.

Who would you consider elite level territory?

There are plenty of agency models and Instagram models that would be elite level.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Am I glad not to be dating in America.

I used to mess with a Dutch girl from Amsterdam, she was all over the fvcking place lol.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Stay away from the junkies.

She was in medical school at the time trying to be a doctor. Now, she is out thotting her pale ass in Suriname or some Dutch Caribbean Island.

 

[Blacksheep]

So you need money to settle down with a woman? Who wants to settle down with a woman? Been there, done that, not worth the trouble.

Some desire money, some a good looking guy, status, etc...

Here in Brazil some kind of women like to date the drug dealers guys. Most dont have money, just pretend to be dangerous... but it seems it triggers some desire in those kind of women.

I also believe some kind of women have different desire. Its just not as common in those days.

When I had social status as DJ, I attracted some type of women interest in that. When it changed, the type of women I date is a bit different... same for intensity of women cause Im not exposed as before. Which I prefer, cause I literally next gold diggers.

About settling down, is something I still have doubts. Maybe because of past experiences or maybe because I havent found a decent woman to that.

 

[Manure Spherian]

They will never like your chicken breast and broccoli/anabolic diet, so your only option is to do some OMAD/Intermittent fasting which isn't sustainable in the long run. The guy is either going to have to compromise and put on some weight or the relationship will be mediocre at best and lead to other problems.

Never had to fatten up or had that problem. Where did you get this notion? Also people don’t need to eat a diet that tastes like cardboard to stay in shape, at around 12-15% bodyfat.

 

[MatureDJ]

Men in this category, $75k-$125k salary, relatively in shape, drive a good car, has a few hobbies, women do not want. Why? Because this man has standards. Women do not want to work for their men. Women of today want a simp or a millionaire. Simple as that. This is what society aka social media is telling them. Get a man who accepts you for you are OR "you deserve better queen!"

Yes I am posting this out of frustration. I'm meeting many women (in their late twenties) who put in very little and expect a lot. I've never in my life had to put up with so much arrogant and self-entitled garbage from women of today.

It's OVER for SemiSuccessfulCels.

 

[MatureDJ]

I used to mess with a Dutch girl from Amsterdam, she was all over the fvcking place lol.

Or at least in rooms lit in red:

 

[Manure Spherian]

It's OVER for SemiSuccessfulCels.

If they say and believe it’s over, then it is over for them.

If men operate in the paradigm of women having full ownership of the sexual market, then it’s over.

And to think that all fully successful men are immune to the abuse and rejection of women shows serious ignorance.

A non-exhaustive list of fully-successful men punked or left by women, men who “did the work”, “alphas”, Chads:

Brad Pitt
Will Smith (punked for all the world to see)
Vladimir Putin
Ben Affleck
Jeff Bezos
Tom Brady
Johnny Depp (woman defecated in his bed)
Kanye West

So I suppose if men look hard enough, then yes, it’s over for all. Or they can live their lives on their own terms, and find women that suit them.

The pigeonholing in this thread is not good.

 

[SW15]

Aaron Clarey has spoken to this point that the middle class male is getting a raw deal. This is close to the mating issue @jaymbrs was describing for 30+, $75,000 - $125,000/year earning men.

 

[Bigpapa]

Aaron Clarey has spoken to this point that the middle class male is getting a raw deal. This is close to the mating issue @jaymbrs was describing for 30+, $75,000 - $125,000/year earning men.

If the point is to impress women with money, then yeah. Otherwise the 75-125k range is plenty enough ( even for a big city ) to have a decent sex life if you are not autistic/retarded or something and take good care of yourself

In the moment you play the money game you will only impress illegal immigrants or ugly broke women if you do not have a millionaire lifestyle . Or going to remote places where fresh water is not a thing and have to take a dump in a hole in the ground, like the jungles of Asia or most of Africa. Or whatever countries these guys advertise here

Your average American income money game is not really that inpressive not even for South Americans in their countries ( unless you go to the villages or ugly women ), and those guys have an average salary of like 500 dollars and are in perpetual financial crisis for like 50 years at least

 

[SW15]

If the point is to impress women with money, then yeah. Otherwise the 75-125k range is plenty enough ( even for a big city ) to have a decent sex life if you are not autistic/retarded or something and take good care of yourself

$75,000 - $125,000/year isn't enough to impress women with money/lifestyle/possessions.

In many large USA cities, that's enough to get a solid but not spectacular one bedroom apartment.

If you're 30+ and childless and wish to date 30+ childless women, they often have similar salary ranges and aren't likely to be impressed with anyone in that range. Most women with a bachelor's degree or higher are getting into this range when they are 30+ and a man in his 30s in that range isn't exciting.

Some 30s/early 40s single moms might be impressed with a man in that salary range if they are mediocre single moms.

 

[Bigpapa]

$75,000 - $125,000/year isn't enough to impress women with money/lifestyle/possessions.

In many large USA cities, that's enough to get a solid but not spectacular one bedroom apartment.

If you're 30+ and childless and wish to date 30+ childless women, they often have similar salary ranges and aren't likely to be impressed with anyone in that range. Most women with a bachelor's degree or higher are getting into this range when they are 30+ and a man in his 30s in that range isn't exciting.

Some 30s/early 40s single moms might be impressed with a man in that salary range if they are mediocre single moms.

Dunno what is with the fixation of Americans with big homes

In Europe the average 1 bedroom home is like 50 Sqm ( including a small terrace ), and a 2 bedroom one like 65-70 Sqm ( including a terrace )

Guess what, if you know how to furnish it you will have more than enough space to live comfortably

You do not need big rooms and you do not need a lot of rooms ( unless you have a really big family ) . Taking into consideration that couples these days have mostly 1-2 children, a 2 or 3 bedroom apartment is enough to live a comfortable family life

It is true also that Europeans are most of the time outside of the house, but you get the idea

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Crap I’m only 5’10” and my Schwanz ist too big!

How can a guy be seen not as beta bucks but as a alpha fvcks according to you?

Cause according to your posts the only way a guy can be successful with women is:

- 6'5" or taller
- $150,000/y or more
- 6.5" d1ck or more
- Head full of hair
- Jacked
- Have high status
- Have a nice car
- Have a nice house

It looks to me that you're citing bull$hit in here that every woman regurgitates.

 

[Carson02]

The idea of becoming financially successful, fit, to find women is backwards. The idea should be about setting goals and achieving them for self betterment. Women will be more attracted to that than a man being obsessed with them, resulting in higher standard women to choose from.