What the blackpill gets wrong. Hypergamy isnt as bad as we think.

[Barrister]

I just skimmed 8 pages of this thread and am confused on what the black pill got wrong (wasn't aware it got anything right personally) or on how hypergamy "isn't as bad as we think." Whatever that means.

The best thing any man who wants to game women can do is make himself the best version of himself possible (Re: max your SMV) between everything. Dress sharp and learn how to be charismatic in ALL of your interactions. With both men and women. If you have a powerful personality, you will attract the attention of people in general. This is especially a turn-on to women (high social proof). It doesn't require lots of money nor for you to look like Brad Pitt. But it is a mindset that you need to get yourself into.

 

[corrector]

My thoughts are based on observations about the world around me, not necessarily about my own experiences. Do you find something wrong or untrue about the thought process I described (everyone has a minimum level that needs to be satisfied, and after that, other qualities matter much more)? I'd say it's quite universal.

You didn't answer the question.

 

[Gamisch]

You didn't answer the question.

Neither do you. Looks dont matter as much. How many times we have to repeat that? But I geuss that would destroy your believe system and take away your main excuse to improve, you rather keep trolling the forum talking about how you'll never get a women and how that is a fixed fact that can never change. Than you use race as a argument , shutting down responses cause " you wknt know bc you're not black durr durr ".

You a troll.

 

[HaleyBaron]

I made it through the first page, but I'm not reading 5 more pages of this phucking garbage.

Prostitution >>>>> thirst control. Sex, at least occasionally, is a biological need for optimal mental health and is listed on Maslow's Hierarchy chart twice.

Prostitution also >>>>> dumpster diving

Just because the women are bad in a country where it's legal doesn't mean those women wouldn't be *worse* without its legality.

It's the world's oldest profession for a reason.

I think spinning plates is technically prostitution except I'm not paying much for it. It seems like my bud's theory that all women are prostitutes is holding firm considering my half gfs I even had. With one who joked that she seemed like a prostitute to me since all we did was meet and had sex. Once I am done, I want to go back to doing business and career stuff. Having a woman to **** to get rid of my horniness is a liberating thing, but the fact only few men have access to such a luxury is sad in this day and age. It really does clear the mind. F*ck that whole abstinence bs.

 

[HaleyBaron]

I haven't gotten laid in almost two years, and I'm definitely not gay. Gay guys don't have issues getting laid...I can only speak for myself, but it's often more complicated than that. Too many dudes here are guilty of mass projection and think bc its easy for them to get laid, its easy for everyone. It absolutely isn't...especially these days.

This is more proof that posters like you need to sit back, shut up, and listen to people who do get laid instead of pretending you know everything.

 

[corrector]

Neither do you. Looks dont matter as much. How many times we have to repeat that? But I geuss that would destroy your believe system and take away your main excuse to improve, you rather keep trolling the forum talking about how you'll never get a women and how that is a fixed fact that can never change. Than you use race as a argument , shutting down responses cause " you wknt know bc you're not black durr durr ".

You a troll.

When you make accusations prepare to back them up. Show me any post where I shut anyone down and say "because they are not black". There is virtually no other black poster on here that is incel and are all successful. @EyeBRollin has over 1000 notches, @forcerecon01 is good to go too, and the list goes on. What you DO hear me say is simply ask a simple question, are you a chad? Why is it valid to ask that? Because when someone who says looks doesn't matter who DOESN'T HAVE THE LOOKS, sounds more credible than someone who has the looks, are downplaying them and thinking it's their game or status. That is what you call virtue signaling and hypocrisy. That is not helpful.

 

[allergictobs]

Why is it, that whenever people say things like this, I never see 5'6" as the bottom of the range? This tells me that once you're in 5'6" it may actually matter.

Sure, it matters more if you are at the extremes. I purposely selected heights which are near the average to point out that height is almost irrelevant if you are not an outlier. What I wrote about people having a minimum level for a quality directly agrees with your assumption that height may actually matter. Many women have a minimum height criterion for their partner. For some, it may be 5'11', for some it might be 5'4'' depending on their own height as well.

By the way, men also have minimum (maximum) height requirements for women - or how would you feel dating a woman who is 6'5'' or 4'5''?

 

[BeExcellent]

Hmmm. I’m going to be straight up here. If a man lacks social calibration then that is going to affect his social interactions with women.

Social attenuation is MORE important than looks. You can be physically attractive and yet socially awkward. Now. For whatever reason people seem to have this expectation that a handsome man couldn’t possibly be awkward or socially uncalibrated but I’m here to tell you that absolutely can be the case.

In my twenties I recall two first dates in particular. One with an upcoming attorney, another with an anesthesiologist, a doctor. Both men were brilliant and had solid careers, obviously. Both were fit and dashingly well dressed very handsome men. Neither one could hold a conversation about something other than their careers. I worked the first 6 years of my career doing anesthesia research at a major medical center and my parents were both lawyers, so I was well informed and conversant in what these men did for a living…

But beyond that? Both interactions were memorably awkward. I was relieved to have each of those dates end, and interestingly both were drinks dates, not dinner dates.

One problem with drinks dates is that if you don’t do well at small talk & the exchange that needs to happen in a conversation, you suffer because there isn’t something to do besides chat. With an activity date, and even a dinner date there is something to do besides chat, and that is the activity or eating your meal (which also creates a neutral topic to chat about).

Drinks dates are easy for socially well calibrated people but challenging for socially awkward people.

If a man struggles socially that is the single most important issue that he must solve. If women cannot relate to you it will adversely effect your results. Period.

Both the dates I mentioned above were disasters and as they went on I wanted to be outta there.

That is the single biggest thing some of the guys here need to overcome. It can be paralyzingly scary. Telling men who struggle to hold a conversation with a woman to escalate and **** the ****ens out of her is like telling an Englishman that all the answers he needs are in this Mandarin Chinese book! Just read it!! If the man doesn’t understand Chinese he can’t read the information and so he cannot apply the things he needs to do. First he’s got to either learn Chinese or hire a translator.

Seems to me that is what is going on here with some posters. Believe me, I can help a man pull women. I’ve done that with great success for years. But if a man can’t even talk to people without seeming weird?

You gotta get out there and socialize to learn how. No matter now introverted or awkward you might be or feel. That is the first and biggest hurdle.

And if it doesn’t come naturally? You must do it. Learn by doing.

 

[Gamisch]

When you make accusations prepare to back them up. Show me any post where I shut anyone down and say "because they are not black". There is virtually no other black poster on here that is incel and are all successful. @EyeBRollin has over 1000 notches, @forcerecon01 is good to go too, and the list goes on. What you DO hear me say is simply ask a simple question, are you a chad? Why is it valid to ask that? Because when someone who says looks doesn't matter who DOESN'T HAVE THE LOOKS, sounds more credible than someone who has the looks, are downplaying them and thinking it's their game or status. That is what you call virtue signaling and hypocrisy. That is not helpful.

I believe @BackInTheGame78 said multiple times he is average looking . @SW15 also mentions it about himself. And I bet there are many more posters who will confirm that looks only bring you so far. We mentioned posters who do have the stats (6 6 6) but are unable to pull. So you have all the information you need according to your last paragraph.


Yet you keep asking guys to confirm that they look like chad so you can keep on drowning yourself in petty. And I believe it is you taking about how race affect your results on the market. So the white crowd must shut up and "just take your word on it".(using race should be a ban imo ). So now you have; face ,race ioi ect ect as an excuse . Smh.

YOU are not helpful dude. Because any poster or lurker who is new and feels like he is in your position might use you as a confirmation he will never be good enough and able to change his results.

You could also make a thread, dairy style, where you decide to change everything radically. Post a picture of yourself and get feedback. Do approaches ect. So YOU become a testimony how to go from a to z.

But no, you rather keep whining and arguing with guys who do have succes with women.

Sit back , shut up and listen. Ask advice and do it. Step by step. Than write here about what does and what doesn't work. THAT'S being helpful. Why dont you just admit you are stubborn depressed and pvssy starved and desperately want a solution? The forum is FILLED with men who can help you bro..


By the way I am Caribbean so the whole race thing doesn't work with me.

 

[thelambofdeth]

The best thing any man who wants to game women can do is make himself the best version of himself possible (Re: max your SMV) between everything. Dress sharp and learn how to be charismatic in ALL of your interactions. With both men and women. If you have a powerful personality, you will attract the attention of people in general. This is especially a turn-on to women (high social proof). It doesn't require lots of money nor for you to look like Brad Pitt. But it is a mindset that you need to get yourself into.

lol. Also, anyone can dress sharp, not anyone can just BE charismatic. That's like saying "just be good-looking". You're either charismatic, or you aren't. No one is just choosing to NOT be charismatic lols. "Be charismatic" isn't advice. That's like saying being tall or good-looking...you can't just BE things you have no control over.

This is more proof that posters like you need to sit back, shut up, and listen to people who do get laid instead of pretending you know everything.

Listen to the people here who get the laid? The ones here that just spew empty platitudes and project and don't actually give advice beyond "try harder lol"? The same people who just say "derp, race doesn't matter", "being an introvert doesn't matter", "just be confident" "LoOkS dOn'T mAtTeR", etc, when they're not the ones who have to operate with these barriers. You cannot give the same "advice" to everyone, yet that's literally what people try and do here.

 

[corrector]

I believe @BackInTheGame78 said multiple times he is average looking . @SW15 also mentions it about himself. And I bet there are many more posters who will confirm that looks only bring you so far. We mentioned posters who do have the stats (6 6 6) but are unable to pull. So you have all the information you need according to your last paragraph.


Yet you keep asking guys to confirm that they look like chad so you can keep on drowning yourself in petty. And I believe it is you taking about how race affect your results on the market. So the white crowd must shut up and "just take your word on it".(using race should be a ban imo ). So now you have; face ,race ioi ect ect as an excuse . Smh.

YOU are not helpful dude. Because any poster or lurker who is new and feels like he is in your position might use you as a confirmation he will never be good enough and able to change his results.

You could also make a thread, dairy style, where you decide to change everything radically. Post a picture of yourself and get feedback. Do approaches ect. So YOU become a testimony how to go from a to z.

But no, you rather keep whining and arguing with guys who do have succes with women.

Sit back , shut up and listen. Ask advice and do it. Step by step. Than write here about what does and what doesn't work. THAT'S being helpful. Why dont you just admit you are stubborn depressed and pvssy starved and desperately want a solution? The forum is FILLED with men who can help you bro..


By the way I am Caribbean so the whole race thing doesn't work with me.

But you dont live in Toronto...and neither does those other two postets.

 

[BeExcellent]

But you dont live in Toronto...and neither does those other two postets.

Look. I know other posters here who are in Toronto. One in particular successfully dated in that environment and partly by applying what he learned here? He found a woman & married her there. He’s busy doing life & not around here much any more. He learned what he needed to help him, accomplished his relationship goal and moved on. But he was willing to be proactive and improve himself where he knew it could benefit him to do so.

Read what I wrote above in thread about socialization. Some of y’all stink at basic social interaction and yes, that will adversely affect your results.

 

[Gamisch]

lol. Also, anyone can dress sharp, not anyone can just BE charismatic. That's like saying "just be good-looking". You're either charismatic, or you aren't. No one is just choosing to NOT be charismatic lols.


Listen to the people who get the laid? The here ones that just spew empty platitudes and project and don't actually give advice beyond "try harder lol"? The same people who just say "race doesn't matter", "being an introvert doesn't matter", "just be confident" "LoOkS dOn'T mAtTeR", etc, when they're not the ones who have to operate with these barriers. You cannot give the same "advice" to everyone, yet that's literally what people try and do here.

Yes. That's why you individually , gotta humble yourself amd ask specifically what YOU must do. So you could ask Halon (or who ever you connect with) what might work for YOU. All the things you talk about with a sarcastic voice are just bricks of a large castle you'll build . And they'll need maintenance also.

So he is right. Shut up or put up. Post evidence of the thing you've tried and get honoust feedback.

But you dont live in Toronto...and neither does those other two postets.

Your book of excuses might need a part two by now haha. Let's add " I live in a metropolitan city with more then a million people yet I cant connect with ANY woman ".

I wished. I live in a small town in a small country in Europe (being Caribbean). My home town is much bigger but 250 km away from me. My initial social circle ,my family they all live in that area. In the States you could translate it as a New York brotha moving to a small redneck -ish town.

Yet I am slaying women left right here. 70 % never been with a foreign dude like me they say...

You wanna know how????

 

[Mike32ct]

Different guys can have very different experiences with women.

When one says getting laid is very easy and another says it’s extremely difficult, they are both most likely telling the truth based on their experience.

 

[thelambofdeth]

Yes. That's why you individually , gotta humble yourself amd ask specifically what YOU must do. So you could ask Halon (or who ever you connect with) what might work for YOU. All the things you talk about with a sarcastic voice are just bricks of a large castle you'll build . And they'll need maintenance also.

So he is right. Shut up or put up. Post evidence of the thing you've tried and get honoust feedback.

I've sought advice from numerous channels...people aren't honest and people simply cannot give advice to other people when they lack a frame of reference or enough common ground. Some guy who gets laid all the time bc he's rich or has millions friends, has an unlimited social circle, cannot give advice applicable to me. Some white dude who literally has women do all the work for him, literally cannot give me advice bc he can't even comprehend what it's like to be invisible or unwanted to/by women. Too many people "giving advice" either lack empathy, or they just let women totally off the hook and want to just say it's the dude's fault for being "lAzY" or whatever, not even attempting to understand their perspective or admit to how shallow, and toxic tons of women have become in terms of bloated dating standards and expectations.

 

[member160292]

Different guys can have very different experiences with women.

When one says getting laid is very easy and another says it’s extremely difficult, they are both most likely telling the truth based on their experience.

It was very difficult when I wasn’t satisfied with my life. It gets much easier if when all the other pieces in my life came together. Never be complacent where you are, always challenge yourself

 

[Barrister]

lol. Also, anyone can dress sharp, not anyone can just BE charismatic. That's like saying "just be good-looking". You're either charismatic, or you aren't. No one is just choosing to NOT be charismatic lols. "Be charismatic" isn't advice. That's like saying being tall or good-looking...you can't just BE things you have no control over.

You don't think you can learn to be more social, charismatic, and approachable? Well, you are dead wrong. Those were not natural skills for me either. I learned them. The thing that holds you (and most black pillers) back is your horrible, defeatist attitude. Which is funny since you have almost no success with women, and want to tell the people who have had success with women how wrong we are.

 

[thelambofdeth]

You don't think you can learn to be more social, charismatic, and approachable? Well, you are dead wrong. Those were not natural skills for me either. I learned them. The thing that holds you (and most black pillers) back is your horrible, defeatist attitude. Which is funny since you have almost no success with women, and want to tell the people who have had success with women how wrong we are.

It doesn't matter how successful someone is, if they give chit advice, they give chit advice. That's part of why so many star athletes make horrible coaches. Just like getting women, too much of it is natural and related to external factors you cannot alter, and they can't relate to someone who doesn't have those privileges or advantages. You could have a pineapple juice and cocaine orgy with a French ballerina team every weekend...if you give chit advice, you give chit advice.

 

[Gamisch]

I've sought advice from numerous channels...people aren't honest and people simply cannot give advice to other people when they lack a frame of reference or enough common ground. Some guy who gets laid all the time bc he's rich or has millions friends, has an unlimited social circle, cannot give advice applicable to me. Some white dude who literally has women do all the work for him, literally cannot give me advice bc he can't even comprehend what it's like to be invisible or unwanted to/by women. Too many people "giving advice" either lack empathy, or they just let women totally off the hook and want to just say it's the dude's fault for being "lAzY" or whatever, not even attempting to understand their perspective or admit to how shallow, and toxic tons of women have become in terms of bloated dating standards and expectations.

So you gave up? Please confirm you gave up on women, so its easier to understand your POV. @corrector And you are the same poster to me, seems like an alt account from 1 guy anyway.


You'll be hard pressed to find a dude nowadays who is NOT tired and fed up with the current dating environment. I just read a quote on youtube from a woman saying; " I see it all around me, women (including myself ) have become trash . Is it our fault tho?". So its simply a giving that dating is harder.

Why do you focus on other channels anyway? This is the perfect place for you. Lots of testimonies how average dudes with no notches followed advices giving to them and suddenly they had 50 + notches.

Again you drop the race card...white guy with social circle . Green guy with Bugatti. Purple guy with 8 pack. Let's focus on YOU.

By the way,even dudes who claiming to be handsome saying getting women is all about technique, tricks , traps and manipulation. They also learned (the hard way) that just being handsome isnt enough. It might be just as powerful as any other " god giving talent ( as charmed, rich, funny ripped ect)"; it will only open the door a little bit.

If anyone lacks empathy it's you. Unfortunately mostly towards yourself it seems.

Why dont you start making a thread addressing your problems and see what feedback you'll get?

Well?

 

[EyeBRollin]

When you make accusations prepare to back them up. Show me any post where I shut anyone down and say "because they are not black". There is virtually no other black poster on here that is incel and are all successful. @EyeBRollin has over 1000 notches, @forcerecon01 is good to go too, and the list goes on.

100. Definitely not 1000!