Getting jacked/ripped would eliminate 85% of the problems on this forum..

[Guy69JackBlue]

yeah, but its a small sample size and no doubt people in average shape weren;t all with women. if you were to follows pans mantra, the alphas were just hanging out with their male friends and banging all the guys girlfriends later. no time to waste with women outside of sex

Yea except they weren't.

Does anyone actually believe that nonsense?

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

its part of my routine, I only sleep 6 hours - wake up naturally really early and get it done before rest of day starts in my garage gym - squat rack, dumbells, pullup bar, dips stn etc. round 40 mins per session 5 times a week on average. only eat 3/4 times a day, minimal food prep, no more than what people eating typical diets spend. did go through a phase 10 years ago of doing the 6 meals a day, carrying food around with me, eating bang on set times, buts it completely unnecessary found it did dictate too much of my life. now in best shape of my life at 41.

results are worth it for numerous reasons. a lot of people I know who don;t train watch tv for hours each night as apparently too tired and need that time to relax/unwind and sit on a couch for hours instead. i'm sure some are genuinely busy with productive stuff like running a business for 15 hours+, but I find it hard to believe that most who don;t work out are spending all day working to build an empire or doing something productive.

I work full time in a job, work on sideline business for hours most days, have my daughter half the week and still have time to socialize an evening or 2 a week or drive my car around for fun and play PS5 some days. Don't have time for a relationship, but thats not on my priority list for now.

the vast majority of people cannot resist picking up some cheap ass crappy cookies in the snack aisle, and you call your lifestyle easy to just pick up? If getting jacked with abs was so easy then EVERYONE would have them!

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

SoSuave may be the wrong forum for you.

This childishness is the best you have to offer?

 

[B80]

the vast majority of people cannot resist picking up some cheap ass crappy cookies in the snack aisle, and you call your lifestyle easy to just pick up? If getting jacked with abs was so easy then EVERYONE would have them!

I never said it's easy, I'm saying it doesn;t have to take up your entire life like some are saying or insinuating. If you looking for something easy or path of least resistant most things worth achieving will be out of reach.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

I never said it's easy, I'm saying it doesn;t have to take up your entire life like some are saying or insinuating. If you looking for something easy or path of least resistant most things worth achieving will be out of reach.

I already have abs without working out. I also have decently muscular legs with the exception of a slight ligament issue with one of my knees from an injury when I was younger.

Going to the gym doesn't solve all your health problems. It doesn't solve ANY of them actually. I would guess that the gym rat club has never been hospitalized with real injuries.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

I never said it's easy, I'm saying it doesnt have to take up your entire life like some are saying or insinuating. If you looking for something easy or path of least resistant most things worth achieving will be out of reach.

1) Every day you have to track your calories, it is easier to plan ahead happy hour or eating out with friends, but if something just pops up then you have to think hard about rather you want to kill your diet/workout routine or stay good.

2) I don't eat certain foods anymore because of the high calorie count- cake, rarely eat pizza now, normal peanut butter, nuts, chips, cookies, and etc. Do I miss these foods? Not really tbh, but I'm sure there's something everyone must cut out. It seems like to me that you don't have a normie social life which IMHO is the biggest lean abs killer out of anything. Most people do and they aren't going to turn down the weekly happy hour peer pressure they get from their unhealthy friends. Remember you are the average of the 5 people that you hang out with the most. It may seem easier to you because you don't have to deal with this shvt, but I had to cut off friends of mine because of this and this will be one of the reasons I break up with my gf.

3) People will get mad that you are dieting even women that you are screwing and tell you that this is unhealthy and that you have a eating disorder.

 

[B80]

1) Every day you have to track your calories, it is easier to plan ahead happy hour or eating out with friends, but if something just pops up then you have to think hard about rather you want to kill your diet/workout routine or stay good.

2) I don't eat certain foods anymore because of the high calorie count- cake, rarely eat pizza now, normal peanut butter, nuts, chips, cookies, and etc. Do I miss these foods? Not really tbh, but I'm sure there's something everyone must cut out. It seems like to me that you don't have a normie social life which IMHO is the biggest lean abs killer out of anything. Most people do and they aren't going to turn down the weekly happy hour peer pressure they get from their unhealthy friends. Remember you are the average of the 5 people that you hang out with the most. It may seem easier to you because you don't have to deal with this shvt, but I had to cut off friends of mine because of this and this will be one of the reasons I break up with my gf.

3) People will get mad that you are dieting even women that you are screwing and tell you that this is unhealthy and that you have a eating disorder.

You don;t have to track calories every day - I don;t and haven't for years. Yes you need a rough idea of what you're eating, more so when starting out. Of course you do if getting on stage.

I mentioned I go out once or twice a week. In fact my main vice is drinking alcohol heavily a couple of times a month on average when out with friends.

A cheat meal once or twice a week does no harm if rest of diet is good. I get the odd joke from friends,colleagues etc but I haven;t been ostracized from social groups as far as I'm aware due to it. If someones that against it, its not someone I want to be around anyway. I don't force it on others so expect the same courtesy the other way.

You're making excuses for people.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

You don;t have to track calories every day - I don;t and haven't for years. Yes you need a rough idea of what you're eating, more so when starting out. Of course you do if getting on stage.

I mentioned I go out once or twice a week. In fact my main vice is drinking alcohol heavily a couple of times a month on average when out with friends.

A cheat meal once or twice a week does no harm if rest of diet is good. I get the odd joke from friends,colleagues etc but I haven;t been ostracized from social groups as far as I'm aware due to it. If someones that against it, its not someone I want to be around anyway. I don't force it on others so expect the same courtesy the other way.

You're making excuses for people.

True. It takes virtually zero energy to fix your diet. Except for maybe driving to the grocery store instead of eating at restaurants.

I haven't had a drop of alcohol in over 2.5 years. I wonder how much alcohol these gym rats drink... And then have the audacity to talk about health.

 

[nicksaiz65]

1) Every day you have to track your calories, it is easier to plan ahead happy hour or eating out with friends, but if something just pops up then you have to think hard about rather you want to kill your diet/workout routine or stay good.

2) I don't eat certain foods anymore because of the high calorie count- cake, rarely eat pizza now, normal peanut butter, nuts, chips, cookies, and etc. Do I miss these foods? Not really tbh, but I'm sure there's something everyone must cut out. It seems like to me that you don't have a normie social life which IMHO is the biggest lean abs killer out of anything. Most people do and they aren't going to turn down the weekly happy hour peer pressure they get from their unhealthy friends. Remember you are the average of the 5 people that you hang out with the most. It may seem easier to you because you don't have to deal with this shvt, but I had to cut off friends of mine because of this and this will be one of the reasons I break up with my gf.

3) People will get mad that you are dieting even women that you are screwing and tell you that this is unhealthy and that you have a eating disorder.

I will say, stuff “randomly popping up” can be quite irritating for your fitness goals. This was a huge issue, and it was killing my gainz for a while. It would knock me out of my caloric deficit.

The best way I’ve found to deal with that is to set up a “buffer.” Every single day, put some calories to the side just in case something comes up. So you don’t have to be OCD or paranoid about what could happen. Additionally, if you end up eating more than you expect, just eat less the next day or next few days. It is a weekly or monthly deficit that matters, after all. You literally can’t mess up when following this plan.

Intermittent Fasting, and a Warrior style diet where you do most of your eating at night, is a great way to create a buffer, and it frees you from that 6 meals a day crap.

Rigid fitness routines are doomed to fail. Your plan has to be flexible, and account for unexpected events to succeed.

 

[Jor-El]

I look at exercise like this. If you store a fancy car in the garage and rarely use it then it lasts longer but if you take that car out all the time and drive it then it doesnt last as long. Why put extra miles on your body with exercise? We are the only animal on earth that exercises just for the fun of it. Be like a LION and use your energy sparingly when you need it. Also while you meatheads are in the gym all the time just remember that theres guys hitting on your women while your in the gym and some of them might even be sleeping with your girl while your hitting the weights all the time.

Not to flame,but this post is insane! It goes against all known science or common sense! You gotta be trolling... I know plenty of "lions" as you call them,who "use their energy sparingly" and yes,they have soft,out of shape bodies,pot bellies and double chins...(just what the ladies are after )

There are a gazzillion studies that show we lose muscle mass as we age,but hitting the gym slows this right down,in a good way.There is a guy in my gym who is 88...and still hitting the weights and he looks fab,great posture,proud,a man with a purpose.Then you go into the street and see a similiar age guy hunched over shuffling down the street...what would you rather be ? It really is use it or lose it,and you dont have to hit the gym ALL the time,im 3 hours a week,over 3 days,im in good shape..your car analogy dosent make any sense.Ask someone who has been bedridden for a long time to show you how they look as they conserve their energy...you are of course entitled to your view but this is one of the most ridiculous posts iv ever read on here

 

[Epicwinguy]

Hmm. Would the one meal a day diet work for this? And would it work if I’m vegan?

 

[soulforge]

1) Every day you have to track your calories, it is easier to plan ahead happy hour or eating out with friends, but if something just pops up then you have to think hard about rather you want to kill your diet/workout routine or stay good.

2) I don't eat certain foods anymore because of the high calorie count- cake, rarely eat pizza now, normal peanut butter, nuts, chips, cookies, and etc. Do I miss these foods? Not really tbh, but I'm sure there's something everyone must cut out. It seems like to me that you don't have a normie social life which IMHO is the biggest lean abs killer out of anything. Most people do and they aren't going to turn down the weekly happy hour peer pressure they get from their unhealthy friends. Remember you are the average of the 5 people that you hang out with the most. It may seem easier to you because you don't have to deal with this shvt, but I had to cut off friends of mine because of this and this will be one of the reasons I break up with my gf.

3) People will get mad that you are dieting even women that you are screwing and tell you that this is unhealthy and that you have a eating disorder.

This is NONSENSE.. You don't have to track calories at all.. 3x meals a day. High protein, lower carbs & some good fats & your already winning.

These are just lame excuses from lazy people.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

You don;t have to track calories every day - I don;t and haven't for years. Yes you need a rough idea of what you're eating, more so when starting out. Of course you do if getting on stage.

I mentioned I go out once or twice a week. In fact my main vice is drinking alcohol heavily a couple of times a month on average when out with friends.

A cheat meal once or twice a week does no harm if rest of diet is good. I get the odd joke from friends,colleagues etc but I haven;t been ostracized from social groups as far as I'm aware due to it. If someones that against it, its not someone I want to be around anyway. I don't force it on others so expect the same courtesy the other way.

You're making excuses for people.

Yes you do, you need to be in either a calorie deficit or maintain. Regardless, you still track and watch what you eat so don’t act like you aren’t doing shvt to seem mighty on the internet.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

This is NONSENSE.. You don't have to track calories at all.. 3x meals a day. High protein, lower carbs & some good fats & your already winning.

These are just lame excuses from lazy people.

well I prefer to eat like a normal person, so tracking calories ftw. I can look good and not eat your brown rice shvtty chicken breast/egg whites dog food everyday

 

[B80]

well I prefer to eat like a normal person, so tracking calories ftw. I can look good and not eat your brown rice shvtty chicken breast/egg whites dog food everyday

theres definitely an argument out there for calories in v calories out is what matters most and you don;t have to eat the typical stuff all the time to get in excellent shape. obviously theres a tipping point and it becomes detrimental for health, energy, well being etc. I'm quite fortunate in that as much as I enjoy food, I can eat the typical clean stuff all the time without feeling like i'm missing out.

 

[B80]

Yes you do, you need to be in either a calorie deficit or maintain. Regardless, you still track and watch what you eat so don’t act like you aren’t doing shvt to seem mighty on the internet.

tbf I should have said I weigh a far amount of my portions out (which takes seconds before you say thats a massive choir ), but I haven't tracked calories for years. If I want to lean out I'll start reducing carbs slightly over weeks/months, then start gradually increasing again after I've been in a deficit for ages. Honestly couldn;t tell you amount of calories I eat, but pretty fortunate (at least when it comes to staying lean) with being tall, slim, long limbed and doing loads of excercise so don;t need to eat anything drastically low.

 

[mjb3617]

Is it really that complex dude.. Getting buff alone does not get you the gina... It simply increases your sexual market value.

Dude who is a 6.5 can upgrade to 7.5 if he builds a killer body for himself.. Those extra points will help him do better in landing a woman. The confidence boost alone will improve his chances.

If your a goofy, beta, no job having, zero game having cuck, then obviously getting jacked isn't going to be enough to get the lay.

This isn't Quantum Physics guys!

Pretty obvious if you look like you take care of yourself, have better skin, healthier complexion, looking physically strong like a protector & can handle a show down..

Obviously that is more attractive than being a big lard azz sack of potatoes.

The guys who keep talking about the negatives of training & banging on about Gymcel are only thinking about females & sex.

Fitness/training has so many other benefits, besides woman.

100% agree. I've lost nearly 40 pounds in the past few months through the gym and proper diet. I hated the way I looked, hated myself, and had a relationship with a woman that didn't last and in hindsight was toxic. It messed me up even more than I was.

I was unhealthy, blood pressure out of control, and felt like garbage everyday I woke up.

Ditched the woman, got my ass in the gym, and I'm working on improving myself. I'm late to the game (35) but better late than never. I'm not 100%, but I'm in a much better frame than I was 4 months ago. Its only going to get better.

Lifting, working out, and proper diet does a lot more than just helping attract women.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

Lifting, working out, and proper diet does a lot more than just helping attract women.

This is assuming the person was unhealthy/overweight to begin with.

 

[Georgepithyou]

If getting buff is so great then why is the Misc/bodybuilding forums filled with so many incels

Because they skip Social Skills day

 

[SW15]

Because they skip Social Skills day

You need fewer social skills and less charisma as a muscular guy to get laid, especially if you are a muscular guy 6'0'+. Being muscular and 5'8" isn't amazing.