Getting jacked/ripped would eliminate 85% of the problems on this forum..

[metalwater]

BTW we can fck much better when in really good shape, muscle, and lungs. That alone can be worth it. The bottom line for this argument.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

If getting buff is so great then why is the Misc/bodybuilding forums filled with so many incels

Balance is required. One has to remain social in order to achieve social benefits.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

BTW we can fck much better when in really good shape, muscle, and lungs. That alone can be worth it. The bottom line for this argument.

Do you see fat "paid for" d1ck? ( male strippers), no you don't.

 

[Maximus Optimus]

Working out wont get you laid. Plain and simple. These guys promoting the gyms are brainwashed by the media telling them in ads and magazines that they gotta have a six pack to get a woman. Just be yourself. Guys that work out have too much time on there hands. Gyms are for men that dont have physical jobs. When you have a physical job you dont need a gym. Guys that workout are doing it cause they are insecure with how they look normally. It makes zero sense to waste away your joints and use your energy when you dont need to. Im not against people doing what they want in life though. Go ahead and waste your money on gyms and putting your energy into weights when you could be enjoying real things in life besides obsessing over your body. Knock yourself out.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

5 Reasons Both Women and Men Care About Big Muscles

Why do women and men care so much about big, strong muscles? The answers will surprise you.

www.psychologytoday.com

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/12/12/women-rate-the-strongest-men-as-the-most-attractive-study-finds/

It's true! Women really DO prefer strong men - and muscly shoulders are the most desired trait

YOU’VE hear it time and time again but now science has proven it to be true – women really do prefer men with big muscles. Strong looking men with burly shoulders, to be precise. An Aus…

www.thesun.co.uk

A Study Has Confirmed That Women Prefer Stronger-Looking Men

Don't act like you're not surprised, gents

www.menshealth.com

Prepare to be shocked: women prefer chiselled abs and giant biceps

Every single woman chose the stronger men over the weak in a study

www.irishtimes.com

Polish up your pecs: women prefer strong men, say scientists

Researchers asked 160 women to rate the attractiveness of headless male torsos and every single woman chose the stronger men over the weak

www.theguardian.com

Sigh this is like picking at a scab.

this time I’m out. Peace.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Working out wont get you laid. Plain and simple. These guys promoting the gyms are brainwashed by the media telling them in ads and magazines that they gotta have a six pack to get a woman. Just be yourself. Guys that work out have too much time on there hands. Gyms are for men that dont have physical jobs. When you have a physical job you dont need a gym. Guys that workout are doing it cause they are insecure with how they look normally. It makes zero sense to waste away your joints and use your energy when you dont need to. Im not against people doing what they want in life though. Go ahead and waste your money on gyms and putting your energy into weights when you could be enjoying real things in life besides obsessing over your body. Knock yourself out.

If you are a business owner or work a white collar profession you will get zero activity on the job. Hence a appropriate fitness regimen is added to your life to give it balance. Health is not just for looks its about quality of life. And in case you didn't know good physical health keeps stress under control and makes you sharper mentally..

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

You can be self employed, make 150,000 a year
And I can still probably bang your chick on her girls trip to Vegas because she’s secretly repulsed by your girly soft body.

Haha. You're the guy who says your strategy is to go for ugly girls right?

You gym guys love to mental masturbate about how great you think you are

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

The lengths that people will go to make excuses to not exercise and get in shape

Except that I already am in shape.

You're missing the point with the "muscles too big" thing.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

I'm currently in Dubrovnik, Croatia. Lots of tourists and couples, many of them young. Today, I will pay close attention to the guy any time I see one with an attractive girl.

My guess is that they will tend to be taller than average, but almost none of them will be jacked.

 

[B80]

you're making it sound like it takes up most of your life, yes it can if you want (like anything), but you only need a few hours a weeks, not a day. even diet side isn;t a big time sink once you get in a routine.

as for compensating, again you can say anyone who puts more time into anything could be compensating for some insecurity. you get all sorts in all pursuits really.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

you're making it sound like it takes up most of your life, yes it can if you want (like anything), but you only need a few hours a weeks, not a day. even diet side isn;t a big time sink once you get in a routine.

as for compensating, again you can say anyone who puts more time into anything could be compensating for some insecurity. you get all sorts in all pursuits really.

if You want to be jacked and actually look good it does consumer most of your life because you have to base your day to day activities off nutrition and working out. If you want to be a fat fvck with muscles then it doesn’t really take a lot of time.

 

[B80]

if You want to be jacked and actually look good it does consumer most of your life because you have to base your day to day activities off nutrition and working out. If you want to be a fat fvck with muscles then it doesn’t really take a lot of time.

its part of my routine, I only sleep 6 hours - wake up naturally really early and get it done before rest of day starts in my garage gym - squat rack, dumbells, pullup bar, dips stn etc. round 40 mins per session 5 times a week on average. only eat 3/4 times a day, minimal food prep, no more than what people eating typical diets spend. did go through a phase 10 years ago of doing the 6 meals a day, carrying food around with me, eating bang on set times, buts it completely unnecessary found it did dictate too much of my life. now in best shape of my life at 41.

results are worth it for numerous reasons. a lot of people I know who don;t train watch tv for hours each night as apparently too tired and need that time to relax/unwind and sit on a couch for hours instead. i'm sure some are genuinely busy with productive stuff like running a business for 15 hours+, but I find it hard to believe that most who don;t work out are spending all day working to build an empire or doing something productive.

I work full time in a job, work on sideline business for hours most days, have my daughter half the week and still have time to socialize an evening or 2 a week or drive my car around for fun and play PS5 some days. Don't have time for a relationship, but thats not on my priority list for now.

 

[soulforge]

Haha. You're the guy who says your strategy is to go for ugly girls right?

You gym guys love to mental masturbate about how great you think you are

Let's hope your girl never gets into a situation where she needs a man around to be able to physically protect her.

This is when dudes like me and Cola would need to step in, as you definitely would not be able to hold your own against jacked men.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

Let's hope your girl never gets into a situation where she needs a man around to be able to physically protect her.

This is when dudes like me and Cola would need to step in, as you definitely would not be able to hold your own against jacked men.

I think I could take both of you at the same time.

And while we're at it... Enlighten us with all the stories of the times you protected anyone. Lol.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

You guys are still talking about this?

Yea it's the title of the thread.

Are you researching for PUA's from 20 years ago to share with us?

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

I have a feeling this thread may get locked soon. So I'll post the results of my observation of couples in Dubrovnik.

Out of probably 25 that I saw... None were with jacked guys. None were with fat guys. All the couples had a guy who was thin (sometimes even rail thin), and who was usually slightly taller than average. I'm talking like 5'10" (not 6'2").

The only jacked guys I saw were hanging out with each other with no girls around. Also, there were jacked guys working on a construction crew. No females around.

The REALITY of the world differs greatly from the mental masturbation of the gym rat club.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

If you ignore them, they'll eventually go away.

Ignoring someone isn't the same as winning. It's more like quitting cause you don't have good answers.

 

[B80]

I have a feeling this thread may get locked soon. So I'll post the results of my observation of couples in Dubrovnik.

Out of probably 25 that I saw... None were with jacked guys. None were with fat guys. All the couples had a guy who was thin (sometimes even rail thin), and who was usually slightly taller than average. I'm talking like 5'10" (not 6'2").

The only jacked guys I saw were hanging out with each other with no girls around. Also, there were jacked guys working on a construction crew. No females around.

The REALITY of the world differs greatly from the mental masturbation of the gym rat club.

yes, but also need to factor in that theres less people in excellent looking physical shape too, for one reason or another. its not like someone can decide they're going to be ripped for their visit to the beach in 2 weeks so do a few sessions and arrive at that. can't go from below to averageto excellent physique overnight.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

yes, but also need to factor in that theres less people in excellent looking physical shape too, for one reason or another. its not like someone can decide they're going to be ripped for their visit to the beach in 2 weeks so do a few sessions and arrive at that. can't go from below to averageto excellent physique overnight.

I don't see how that changes anything.

And the few guys I did see that were jacked were not with girls.

 

[B80]

I don't see how that changes anything.

And the few guys I did see that were jacked were not with girls.

yeah, but its a small sample size and no doubt people in average shape weren;t all with women. if you were to follows pans mantra, the alphas were just hanging out with their male friends and banging all the guys girlfriends later. no time to waste with women outside of sex