Getting jacked/ripped would eliminate 85% of the problems on this forum..

[nicksaiz65]

Is it really that complex dude.. Getting buff alone does not get you the gina... It simply increases your sexual market value.

Dude who is a 6.5 can upgrade to 7.5 if he builds a killer body for himself.. Those extra points will help him do better in landing a woman. The confidence boost alone will improve his chances.

If your a goofy, beta, no job having, zero game having cuck, then obviously getting jacked isn't going to be enough to get the lay.

This isn't Quantum Physics guys!

Pretty obvious if you look like you take care of yourself, have better skin, healthier complexion, looking physically strong like a protector & can handle a show down..

Obviously that is more attractive than being a big lard azz sack of potatoes.

The guys who keep talking about the negatives of training & banging on about Gymcel are only thinking about females & sex.

Fitness/training has so many other benefits, besides woman.

Bang on

 

[soulforge]

One of the things in comics that gets debated is between these two who is stronger.

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The guy on the right who is smaller and less jacked will get more women. They both will get fear-based respect. Men that get no respect at all love to get fear-based respect because it is better than nothing. The guy on the right will also get admiration respect, yet he is less jacked but is in decent shape.

Looking like the guy on the right is really cool and with a strong character is a winning look. Looking like the guy on the left will get some attention from a subset and fear respect from most.

Given the choice, only a few crazy women might go with lefty.

These next two have the body that is good to have.
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They have different game however, probably the women that are 10s that like one would not like the other. Both are in shape without being over the top like the green guy. Women absolutely like the looks of these two guys and anyone with that type of body doesn't get pushed aside due to physical looks. This level is desirable and obtainable, being the green guy might be fun but it's in a different world.

Change the dress;
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It is a no-brainer, all women will pick the guy on the right(Bruce). Same physical build and similar to each other. The guy on the left doesn't have game (sorry Clark).

FFS the none motivated (excuse making) types on here go from bad to worse.

The guy on the right is fukin Jacked.. Yes jacked.. He isn't your typical obese or skinny or average type of dude.. To get a body like the guy on the right, you would have to hit the gym like crazy for probably Years!

The dude on the left is TOO DAMN BIG & is a fictional character.

How your body turns out is also down to genetics.. Some dudes get lean & ripped with good definition.. However they are not obviously noticeable as gym goers with Clothes on.

Some dudes get bigger & look abvious bodybuilders.

Either body type, still has a better chance of laying woman than a skinny weak looking dude or dude who is a fat mess

 

[PRW63]

Because you're too busy doing other things and don't have time and energy to spare for it.

Yea, and no one is thinking about age differences either. You get to a point where your body just doesn't respond to it any longer. I still have gym memberships (a couple actually) but I get little benefit from it any longer. If I try too hard I just end up in the emergency room. The knees are shot, I have some kind of soft tissue damage in the right arm that will no longer heal. Any yet my dating success is no worse now than when I spent more time in the gym. Heck in my 20s I raced dirt bikes in Hair Scambles and Enduros. Didn't do much in my 30s. In my late 40s - early 50's I did Cycling competively, two Bronse in the Regional Senior Olympics in my home state, 4th in the last Sprint Triathalon (running as a team). I'm no lazy bum,...but now it hurts to just walk and get up and down stairs and the gym barely does squat for me. Yet, somehow I do better with women now than I ever did in my entire life.

 

[Lookatu]

I'll just offer another perspective here from 49 years of being on this earth.

I used to be a gym rat when I was in college. The ONLY reason why I worked out was to get laid. Nothing else.

After college when I got into my first LTR(8 years). I let myself go and gained weight. After that ended, I started working out again to attract girls.

After banging many chicks I started doing it for myself. After getting married, I started doing it for my kids.

Working out(not necessarily getting "jacked") has all the benefits in life and no disadvantages, whether you're doing it to get girls, stay healthy for yourself, doing it so you can participate and be healthy for your kids, or staying fit to be desirable for your wife/gf(more sex).

But balance is the key: Improving mind, body, soul. Do not leave out any of them.

My $.02

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

Yea, and no one is thinking about age differences either. You get to a point where your body just doesn't respond to it any longer. I still have gym memberships (a couple actually) but I get little benefit from it any longer. If I try too hard I just end up in the emergency room. The knees are shot, I have some kind of soft tissue damage in the right arm that will no longer heal. Any yet my dating success is no worse now than when I spent more time in the gym. Heck in my 20s I raced dirt bikes in Hair Scambles and Enduros. Didn't do much in my 30s. In my late 40s - early 50's I did Cycling competively, two Bronse in the Regional Senior Olympics in my home state, 4th in the last Sprint Triathalon (running as a team). I'm no lazy bum,...but now it hurts to just walk and get up and down stairs and the gym barely does squat for me. Yet, somehow I do better with women now than I ever did in my entire life.

Or just don't care enough.

People here act like a person is weak and lazy if they don't lift weights. I have a million more productive and important things to do. I work every day.

And lifting weights has nothing to do with good health.

 

[MatureDJ]

I’ve been punched by 300lb tubs of lard and it hurts - a lot.
The weight you carry is really important - even if a lot of it is lard, it makes a massive impact on fighting.

 

[MatureDJ]

I think this forum's obsession with "getting jacked" is completely baseless. It is rooted in a fantasy that gaining muscle mass somehow makes you dominant and alpha.

It adds no value to a person "as a man" or to their overall health. It's just as likely to make a guy look insecure.

I base my opinions on what I see in the real world.

Being jacked does give you the physical strength to lift heavy stuff, and it's needed from time to time. I just bought a 2400W generator that weighs 90#; a FrameCel would not be able to lug it around. Being jacked also gives you the ability to defend yourself much better.

 

[soulforge]

Being jacked does give you the physical strength to lift heavy stuff, and it's needed from time to time. I just bought a 2400W generator that weighs 90#; a FrameCel would not be able to lug it around. Being jacked also gives you the ability to defend yourself much better.

And surprise surprise, shock horror.. Women like to be with a guy who can protect her & himself.. Some dudes on here just don't seem to get that.. They must enjoy being weak AF

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

My god you guys provide the best entertainment…keep it going, the belly laughs are helping me go from a 6 pack to an 8 pack.

Dunning-Kruger effect, in full effect.

and btw correlation is not causation brahs

p.s. chances are most those not taking the free and hard earned advice have never seen the doe eyes a beautiful woman will give you when you can toss her around during sex like a rag doll…cannot enumerate the number of chicks that ask me to bench them…

anyway thanks for comic relief

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

My god you incels provide the best entertainment…keep it going, the belly laughs are helping me go from a 6 pack to an 8 pack.

Dunning-Kruger effect, in full effect.

and btw correlation is not causation brahs

go to bodybuilding forum the Incel capital

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

In the time you’ve spent arguing here you could done at least 5x10 Olympic bench presses, albeit with an empty bar, but hey we all have to start somewhere, right?

Because you're too busy doing other things and don't have time and energy to spare for it.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

it’s common.

they don’t realise that a dude wanting to lay pipe in them doesn’t mean they’re in his league.

women only want to fvck guys they think are their league or higher. Men will fvck anything passable

therefore they think “this alpha railed me. I’m in the big leagues”

then they moan on about men’s lack of commitment, when it’s just their fault for misunderstanding the nature of both sexes

They think getting pumped and dumped has no cost to it. Its the same psychology as a fine woman bringing a man in she's not attracted to and using him for cash or labor and no pvssy

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

go to bodybuilding forum the Incel capital

Jesus man, those of us advocating getting strong all say it adds SMV, not that it’s the end all.

In the end, the OP and many of us are trying to help increase the SMV of the brotherhood here, that’s all. It’s sage advice, there are always outliers, the exception does not prove the rule.

Why do so many of you dig in your heels and argue like a 15 year old? Before Roosh went bible-pill this all would’ve lasted like 30 seconds on that forum, it’s like some of y’all don’t want to learn. So be it.

The science is clear. You can deny the truth with exceptions to the rule all day, in the end you’re the one that suffers.

/lurkmode on

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Jesus man, those of us advocating getting strong all say it adds SMV, not that it’s the end all.

In the end, the OP and many of us are trying to help increase the SMV of the brotherhood here, that’s all. It’s sage advice, there are always outliers, the exception does not prove the rule.

Why do so many of you dig in your heels and argue like a 15 year old? Before Roosh went bible-pill this all would’ve lasted like 30 seconds on that forum, it’s like some of y’all don’t want to learn. So be it.

The science is clear. You can deny the truth with exceptions to the rule all day, in the end you’re the one that suffers.

/lurkmode on

Im 6ft 1, 11%-12% bf and pretty ripped, Yes I advocate every male to go workout and get a physique but saying it's going to solve 85% of your women problems is complete hogwash.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Im 6ft 1, 11%-12% bf and pretty ripped, Yes I advocate every male to go workout and get a physique but saying it's going to solve 85% of your women problems is complete hogwash.

agreed

 

[HaleyBaron]

Being fit is so nice. Less people mess with you and you just get more general respect. In the animal kingdom, it's the same dynamics.

 

[Maximus Optimus]

I look at exercise like this. If you store a fancy car in the garage and rarely use it then it lasts longer but if you take that car out all the time and drive it then it doesnt last as long. Why put extra miles on your body with exercise? We are the only animal on earth that exercises just for the fun of it. Be like a LION and use your energy sparingly when you need it. Also while you meatheads are in the gym all the time just remember that theres guys hitting on your women while your in the gym and some of them might even be sleeping with your girl while your hitting the weights all the time.

 

[Maximus Optimus]

Being fit is so nice. Less people mess with you and you just get more general respect. In the animal kingdom, it's the same dynamics.

Lions dont exercise and neither does any other animal. They use there energy for when they need it.

 

[HaleyBaron]

I look at exercise like this. If you store a fancy car in the garage and rarely use it then it lasts longer but if you take that car out all the time and drive it then it doesnt last as long. Why put extra miles on your body with exercise? We are the only animal on earth that exercises just for the fun of it. Be like a LION and use your energy sparingly when you need it. Also while you meatheads are in the gym all the time just remember that theres guys hitting on your women while your in the gym and some of them might even be sleeping with your girl while your hitting the weights all the time.

Lions dont exercise and neither does any other animal. They use there energy for when they need it.

Wasn't responding about excercise. Just saying looking fit changes social dynamics in the animal kingdom like it does for humans.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

In the time you’ve spent arguing here you could done at least 5x10 Olympic bench presses, albeit with an empty bar, but hey we all have to start somewhere, right?

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Actually I was in the airport. I'm in the midst of a 6 week European vacation. Just landed in Dubrovnik. I also run a business that makes $700,000/year and growing.

There are much more alpha things in the world than lifting weights.

And almost no benefits of lifting weights other than maybe female attention. I don't care to hear the bro-science about how healthy it is.