In Group Female Promiscuity is natural

[SW15]

I also lived in Vegas and let me tell you they cheat ALOT more than you think. I have pictures to prove everything I am saying.

Isn't Vegas where women literally go to cheat?

Women cheating is purely circumstantial. It relates to circumstance, opportunity and consequences.

What happens in Las Vegas doesn’t have a lot of applicability outside of Las Vegas. The area around the Las Vegas Strip has been somewhat of a separate world even from the world that Las Vegas locals know. It’s common knowledge that a large percentage of Las Vegas locals avoid The Strip during their leisure time. While many Las Vegas locals work on The Strip, they socialize off the strip.

Since Las Vegas men know that there is easy vagina to be had around The Strip, it seems logical that there are some local Las Vegas men that spend time around The Strip looking for easy tourist vagina. Logistics are relevant here, as I’m sure these men get apartments near The Strip for easier seduction. Even without a near Strip apartment, getting into a woman’s hotel room isn’t that difficult. In that situation, I would opt to have a near Strip apartment.

Part of the reason that Las Vegas is a difficult long term mating environment is because of the easy vagina on The Strip phenomenon. If a Las Vegas local man is unhappy with his Las Vegas local female, he can opt for casual sex on The Strip. The pandemic has changed the dynamics with this to an extent with fewer tourists and fewer business travelers for conferences.

I have lived with college athletes and they pass around girls like it's nothing. Even in the entertainment industry they are all fuking the same chicks you bozo.

At my college, the athletes were getting a decent quantity of vagina. I didn’t hear about athletes passing women around but I wasn’t that plugged into that scene.

The problem with this forum is a lot of you Gen Z guys come on here with no real life experience and want to tell older dudes about hypergamy you read in a book.

The Gen Z generation is not even having sex. They don't really know how much better it was even 15 yrs ago. So when I tell you that women actually used to smash regular dudes it sounds unbelievable to you. I get it.

The Millennials started the trend of less sex in the 2000s when they were 18-25 and Gen Z is continuing on that.

Women are sexually selective. This is a fact that isn't even worth debating. Even handsome dudes have to work for it if she's young and attractive. This is because an attractive female's abundance will always outstrip any single handsome guy's value when rubber meets the road in this current market. An attractive female's abundance of handsome guy options in 2022 also blunts the effect any 1 single handsome would have on her.

What's great though is that Game solves the problem. There's a system for turning women on, and if you get her at the right time it's a damn good system. What's even better is that most guys don't know how to do it. This is where you can get a serious edge in the market.

Yes, women have way more abundance than most men can imagine, especially if they are using swipe apps. Women have a pool of men to pick from with swipe apps, all social media websites, and the approaches they field in real life. While their greatest quantity will come from the swipe apps, do not discount how many guys try to slide into their DMs on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, or even LinkedIn.

Men need a seduction system like Game now more than ever. The necessity of Game for men has been so much higher since the year 2000. The difference from 1999-2002 (around the time I was first coming up) to 2017-2022 is substantial.

Women do go out to bars looking for a casual fling. They usually only do it very rarely and it's usually just a short phase in their life. They are usually doing it to feel good or after a break up. One night stands do happen.

It's not as common as it used to be before online dating but it does happen. I have been the lucky guy of this only a few times. The sex is usually awkward because you guys have no real connection.

Online dating, especially in the app era, has replaced a lot of going to bars to look for casual flings. A good amount of the casual sex that occurs is set up on Tinder, Twitter, and Instagram. This only happens for a small percentage of high status men such as professional athletes, naturally good looking men (8+), and other celebrity level men. Also, let’s not forget the wealthy men using Seeking to find sugar babies. That audience also takes away from the bar scene for casual sex.

I agree that the sex is usually awkward and that sort of situation is a selling point for extended relationships where familiarity and connection can be built.

 

[SW15]

Here are a couple of articles that discuss the serial monogamy window that I mentioned earlier in the thread about women's preferred mating tactics. The Atlantic article is written by Wendy "Wednesday" Martin, who has written some interesting articles about female sexuality that have challenged some norms. She wrote about female heteroflexibility in New York social circles, where New York women who are married to men go to The Hamptons in the summer and have sex with women (often female personal trainers) while away from The City.

The Bored Sex

Women, more than men, tend to feel stultified by long-term exclusivity—despite having been taught that they were designed for it.

www.theatlantic.com

This Is When Most People In Relationships Get Bored With Sex

A new study shows that women in relationships tend to get bored of sex with their partners after the one-year mark hits.

stylecaster.com

If she's on birth control and she's living in the West, then the real physical consequences of sex are small to her.

Where she experiences consequences are in her mind and mental health. Multiple sexual partners ruins a womans mindscape - this was once mainstream knowledge.

I agree. There are few consequences for women with sex if using birth control and the men she's with are using condoms. If she's on birth control and not protecting for STDs, then there are real consequences there.

I also agree on the mental health consequences of numerous partners. At a certain point, too many partners will ruin a woman's ability to pair bond well. Thus, she becomes a poor candidate for marriage. Too many men are putting rings on women whose notch counts are too high to pair bond in a marriage. While higher notch count women may be capable of an extended non-marital relationship lasting somewhere from 2-5 years, it's not at all a good idea to get involved with a higher notch count woman in a situation where there's a legal contract with a government entity. The notch count that it takes for a woman to be a high flight risk in a marriage is lower than most men think that it is. From my understanding, it is around a 5 notch count or so. It's not difficult for a woman to have sex with 5 men. A large percentage of women 26 and older who are single and out on the market have had sex with 5 or more men.

Guys today think that the issue with slvts is their loose and dirty vags. No. The real issue is their broken minds. They are incapable of providing that sweet femininity, submissiveness and adoration to a man that a virgin is able to provide. They become jaded, embittered and hostile. The old "crazy Ho" or "crazy cat lady" - these are women who've had their minds broken by penis.

Science have even discovered that semen squirted up a vag travels through her body and permanently lodges itself in the female brain. Every load of cvm she's taken from a different dude, that dude's DNA literally lives in her forever. Seems that nature has us wired for ownership at a DNA level, otherwise why that sperm traveling into her brain bro?

The first part is accurate. I've read some mixed stuff about the second part. A lot of men who ejaculate inside women are also ejaculating in a condom while inside the vagina. That might also affect things. Women who put up notches with the man ejaculating in a condom in her vag are also going to be mentally affected and pair bond affected too.

 

[kavi]

So my point on this.

Sex is love. It is about feeling good about oneself. In my ethnic community here in the UK (we come from a very traditional background) the girls are ll supposed to be getting married and their is a lot of judgement and pressure and women are generally not feeling good about themselves. The result is lots and lots of NSA Casual sex before marriage, I mean just casual sex no boyfriends or anything like that cos these girls they dont wanna get caught by the community or get a bad rep then no one will marry them. It is all cold and nefarious and calculating and these girls they are unhappy and broken.

The sex thing it is this, it is meant to be high-quality, somewhat rare, the person you have sex with it is like a love thing so whether it is One time, FWB or whatever there has to be quality cos for both parties it determines their personal value as humans.

But in our society there is a dearth of love and positive energy and self-esteem, this is causing both men and women to seek out sex to fill that gap. This is like an addiction to low-quality junk food. The more you do the lower you go and you never find real fullfillment.

But when people have love and positivity and happiness in their lives you will find they dont need sex as much, then sex is the peak of love rather than a replacement for it. When I say love I dont just mean an LTR or attachment I am talking about self-esteem, fulfillment and happiness.

I know for myself when I am down I feel I need sex as a validation but when I feel good I dont feel I need it. When I get stressed I feel I need it more. So I imagine this is the same for women. Nowadays we are seeing that in many ways men and women are the same.

So the sex thing it really is meant to happen less than in our society and everyone should aspire to do it in a way that it is high-quality and benefits society.

The problem is that women tend to want something in exchange and lots of guys dont care about the girls or being honest about it and just want to get laid (very beta and low-class behaviour) and this is causing lots of problems.

Sex is love so you have to get it it is not about sex it is always about love.

Getting laid is NEVER a determination of a mans value because women are playing all kinds of clever games out there with their manipulations. If you think getting laid has anything to do with you being alpha or successful with women you really dont understand women.

 

[SW15]

On your condoms points - in my experience, past a point of attraction, women are very loose with condoms (and so are guys). Withdrawal method is huge now.

On your Notch count/marriage point I disagree. I think the awful truth is that even a girl who’s been with 1 guy before you is unsuitable for marriage because her hypergamy switch has been flipped (your threshold of 5 is way too high. Even if a single guy has jizzed in her, then his cvm is in her brain forever. Would you buy that? I wouldn’t.

I’ll happily pump and dump her tho.

My views on this are very mainstream. It’s just the Woke Takeover that makes me seem radical now. Virginity has been a requirement for marriage for most of our history.

I agree with your point on condoms. I've been more stringent than average about using condoms.

Roosh wrote an article in 2010 called "American Girls Don’t Use Condoms Anymore"

American Girls Don’t Use Condoms Anymore » Roosh V

I'm shocked at the behavior of American women when it comes to condom use. Middle class white girls are, hands down, the dirtiest, filthiest type of girl I've

web.archive.org

I doubt this trend has changed at all since 2010.

I'll agree that my 5 threshold might be too high. It doesn't take many notches for a woman to be ruined for the level of pair bonding necessary for a 30+ year marriage. The increase in female promiscuity is related to the increase in failed marriages.

 

[SW15]

It is a shame for guys who are looking for a woman who can securely bond with him.

what’s even sadder is a lot of these girls are getting banged from the age of 13-14 by school boys who have no idea what they are doing, inadvertently messing up their pair bonding abilities. These kids don’t stand a chance, and so the vicious cycle continues.

And it’s worth mentioning again. None of this, at a societal level, is accidental. It’s all been engineered to destroy families and atomise everyone (and it’s working pretty damn well).

Most women will manage to get their vaginas penetrated by their 18th birthdays. Most women turn 18 at some point in their senior year of high school if they don't drop out of high school.

While Millennials and Gen Z'ers have not been having as much sex in high school, most of the sexlessness is concentrated amongst males.

If a woman happens to make it through high school without having sex and goes to college, she won't make it through college sexless. She'll either marry her college boyfriend as a virgin (rare) or lose her virginity freshman or sophomore year to some random college dude or with a college boyfriend that doesn't end up leading to a marriage.

Teen pregnancy has become less common in recent decades, starting with when the Millennials were in high school in the late 1990s-early 2000s. That's one consequence of less high school sex. Another reason for less teen pregnancy is that more people are going to college. It's difficult to sit for the ACT/SAT exam and do college applications while pregnant, giving birth, or having an infant.

The friends I've made since moving to my current city got married mainly between ages 27-33 to similarly aged women. Marriage is more common at later ages than it was in 1960, 1970, or even 1980 (after the Sexual Revolution was normalized). When people marry at later ages, there are more opportunities for pre-marital partnering. The average woman marrying in the 2010s likely had a higher notch count than the average woman marrying in the 1960s or even the 1970s when the Sexual Revolution was becoming more normalized. The typical bride of 1975 who was in her early 20s was living out of the Sexual Revolution is real time. The typical bride of the 2010s was born after the Sexual Revolution and has known nothing but a post Revolution, post 2nd wave feminist culture.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Pandora is already operating on the clown logic that pre-history was some kind of paradise, that living as a hunter gather is the "natural" state of humans, that agriculture/civilisation is somehow "unnatural" despite being the norm for 10.000 years and that between pre-history and today not a single culture really took it's code of morality and laws serious and everyone was ****ing with everyone regardless. So what do you expect? I suspect he was already purpe pilled and then reading the liberal political hack work that is "Sex at Dawn" only reinforced his views.

No clue but as @SW15 brought to my attention, Geoffrey Miller is a cuckold. Rollo championed alpha god by Hector Garcia? Make feminists. The majority of these books are phaggotry despite the data sets contrary to the woke agenda.

Essentially were all being trolled be by house husband's on YouTube or Evo psych dorks pedaling the narrative about watching their wives get their **** pushed in.

I found more value in Evo sexual desire and the naked ape. Still i exercise common sense and I dismiss everything mainstream consciousness (or lack thereof. ..more accurately).

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Most women will manage to get their vaginas penetrated by their 18th birthdays. Most women turn 18 at some point in their senior year of high school if they don't drop out of high school.

While Millennials and Gen Z'ers have not been having as much sex in high school, most of the sexlessness is concentrated amongst males.

If a woman happens to make it through high school without having sex and goes to college, she won't make it through college sexless. She'll either marry her college boyfriend as a virgin (rare) or lose her virginity freshman or sophomore year to some random college dude or with a college boyfriend that doesn't end up leading to a marriage.

Teen pregnancy has become less common in recent decades, starting with when the Millennials were in high school in the late 1990s-early 2000s. That's one consequence of less high school sex. Another reason for less teen pregnancy is that more people are going to college. It's difficult to sit for the ACT/SAT exam and do college applications while pregnant, giving birth, or having an infant.

The friends I've made since moving to my current city got married mainly between ages 27-33 to similarly aged women. Marriage is more common at later ages than it was in 1960, 1970, or even 1980 (after the Sexual Revolution was normalized). When people marry at later ages, there are more opportunities for pre-marital partnering. The average woman marrying in the 2010s likely had a higher notch count than the average woman marrying in the 1960s or even the 1970s when the Sexual Revolution was becoming more normalized. The typical bride of 1975 who was in her early 20s was living out of the Sexual Revolution is real time. The typical bride of the 2010s was born after the Sexual Revolution and has known nothing but a post Revolution, post 2nd wave feminist culture.

Some of the college girls I've pulled over the years who just throw around the kitty. Back in my day, we had to put work in. I remember instructing a girl to open her mouth after beating it rotten and emptying my balls in her mouth and face. The same girl will be telling her dork husband she's not in the mood.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Pre history was way better than the mess we have today though that's for sure. We are on anti depressants, male suicide is through the rough. We can't even keep a positive birth rate. Atleast the Native American tribes were able to do that lol.

We have to come on a forum in order to figure out how to deal with our women. These tribes you disparage knew exactly how to deal with their women. But you rather insult than actually consider an alternative view lol.

What I am saying is actually very black pilled. Im saying stop trying to control female sexuality. You cant do it. The more you try the worse it gets. Our pre historic ancestors knew this. Thats why they let the women **** who they wanted ( to a degree) and everything worked out. With only like 150 people in a tribe there was only so many dycks she could suck.

Have a great look at traditional Christian conservative Jordan Petersons piece of work for a daughter. Dad's dying and she's 8n a train with the Tates lulz. Classic single mother. Modern women trying to hold onto her smv that's cratered. Pulled the pin on the divorce destroying her family. While I like her father who is a pushback on my way being, he enables this spoiled brat to evolve into a train wreck. By no means the worst but by every metric the red flags of the dumpster fire that is the SMP in 2022. Even under these circumstances of conservative Christian values and triple digit iq, there's no escaping the black hole that is the modern women sloot gonna sloot.

Fellas are competing for this rubbish. The actual caliber Wirth pursuing is less than 1%. You have a series of NPCs. Free thinking is absent among modern women.

These are at best pump and dump or throater material.

 

[Pandora]

Same thoughts after reading it lol

Oh nice. When did you read it bro.

 

[Plinco]

This thread

 

[metalwater]

Communism is a political and economic system that seeks to create a classless society in which women, are owned and controlled by the community. Each man takes as he needs. No marriage, all share as needed or wanted. The tribe cares for the young, the father is the tribe. The mother is the mother. The men do not shame the woman because they receive no shame for her actions. This leads to a society that does not advance because competition is the mother of advancement.

The theory is that men are not protective of the sex, they are protective of status. If the status is not being competed for then the man does not really care as long as his needs are met. When a woman is loyal to a man that is a form of status.

Do we really hate that the woman is shared or that we are shamed when it happens? Sex with another man's woman against his wish is the ultimate mogging or insult in our cultures. This causes us to be angry at the woman for the shame her actions give us. This is a wrongism as the mogging is from another man, the woman is just a woman. While in a communist way we would agree to share and not compete with each other allowing the men and woman as they will.

Not sure what I think about this, but this seems to be the argument.

 

[Pandora]

Communism is a political and economic system that seeks to create a classless society in which women, are owned and controlled by the community. Each man takes as he needs. No marriage, all share as needed or wanted. The tribe cares for the young, the father is the tribe. The mother is the mother. The men do not shame the woman because they receive no shame for her actions. This leads to a society that does not advance because competition is the mother of advancement.

The theory is that men are not protective of the sex, they are protective of status. If the status is not being competed for then the man does not really care as long as his needs are met. When a woman is loyal to a man that is a form of status.

Do we really hate that the woman is shared or that we are shamed when it happens? Sex with another man's woman against his wish is the ultimate mogging or insult in our cultures. This causes us to be angry at the woman for the shame her actions give us. This is a wrongism as the mogging is from another man, the woman is just a woman. While in a communist way we would agree to share and not compete with each other allowing the men and woman as they will.

Not sure what I think about this, but this seems to be the argument.

Very thoughtful post. Thanks. Communism is not a bad thing as long as there is no government attached to it. Again, when you live in a small tribe you all have to come together as a commune aka community or else you all die. Communism got a bad wrap when governments and certain people who were really fascists started calling themselves communist. All humans evolved from a communist past where everyone shared everything ( the tribe).

My argument is that marriage and monogamy is artificial. Marriage is an invention in order to create social classes and to pass down property. The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State (Penguin Classics) Friedrich Engels argues that it was the state that used marriage for its own benefit. We see this today. The state promotes marriage because it keeps men enslaved in the tax farm called civilization.

In summary: We come from tribes were the sexual restrictions on women were minimal. There was no reason to stress too much about it. You cant be that much of a slut when everyone knows everyone. Paternity is not an issue when there is no property. Women are more promiscuous in small groups ( this is why we advocate social group game instead of cold approach). Women were not made for the restrictions of puritanical monogamy. This is why we are have such a hard time with their behavior now. Women are more promiscuous than we give them credit for.

When they say they want to go through a hoe phase they are just acting on their natural biology. This is not the result of some feminist liberal plot. The feminist just accelerated this bs and made it toxic. In the natural world this "hoe phase" would have been expressed in her mating with multiple ( but not every) men in the tribe.

Again I am not saying that women are as promiscuous as men because they are not. I am not saying they fukk EVERY member of the in group they are a part of. They dont do that. But they do have the capability to be involved in love triangles where they get fukked by multiple men at different times. This is the basis of the love triangle.

So we should stop being surprised when they divorce us in 7 yrs because they got the tingles for another man. We should not surprised when she has a high body count ( in tribal times she would have never been able to get a body count that high anyway). We should not be surprised when she has slept with women and gang bangs etc. They are naturally like this. Its just that civilization put this on overdrive. Kinda like how humans have always loved calorie dense food like sugar but civilization gave us the means to gorge ourselves to death on it.

 

[Pandora]

Communism is a political and economic system that seeks to create a classless society in which women, are owned and controlled by the community. Each man takes as he needs. No marriage, all share as needed or wanted. The tribe cares for the young, the father is the tribe. The mother is the mother. The men do not shame the woman because they receive no shame for her actions. This leads to a society that does not advance because competition is the mother of advancement.

The theory is that men are not protective of the sex, they are protective of status. If the status is not being competed for then the man does not really care as long as his needs are met. When a woman is loyal to a man that is a form of status.

Do we really hate that the woman is shared or that we are shamed when it happens? Sex with another man's woman against his wish is the ultimate mogging or insult in our cultures. This causes us to be angry at the woman for the shame her actions give us. This is a wrongism as the mogging is from another man, the woman is just a woman. While in a communist way we would agree to share and not compete with each other allowing the men and woman as they will.

Not sure what I think about this, but this seems to be the argument.

Yeh you pretty much summed up what i just said. I re read your post. I may not be 100% right, but I think we should at least explore this idea. I don't like the gynocentricity of it though. I think these tribes were more egalitarian than gynocentric. Sorry for the long reply before.

 

[Pandora]

Weird thread. Feel like there are two extremes fighting here.

I tend to side with @Pan87 - I don't think that women are quite as chaotic sexually as OP seems to be indicating. Most women that are highly promiscuous also tend to have zero high SMV options themselves (read: ugly). They think being easy is attractive - it isn't. I have known a number of women like this at varying points in my life. They generally develop a poor reputation fairly quickly and are not viewed as LTR material by any man with options. I don't think that this driven by civilization either. I don't see an alpha-leader of an ancient tribe being OK with some rando having sex with his woman.

Also - I can't imagine sharing my woman (or women) with any other man. And to be honest, sharing with a close friend is actually almost worse. Sounds like a recipe for disaster on multiple levels.

Yeh so I hear ya man. Im not saying I am 100% right or that these anthropologist are 100% right. But hear me out. We are very influenced by our culture. It is possible for men to see women as community puzzy and not get jealous. This jealousy you feel could really be culturally influenced. For example, do you feel jealous in the strip club when the stripper is dancing on other men after giving you a lap dance? Why dont you? Does the pimp feel jealous when his worker is out on the track? Why doesn't he? Do you feel jealous when the town bicycle fukks another guy? Why dont you?

So you see it is possible to not feel sexual competition over women. A second point is that in the PRE agricultural tribes there were no alpha leaders. You are totally right about the POST agricultural tribes though. The POST agricultural tribes did have leaders that would be jealous. But the PRE AGRICULTURAL tribes had women on the same ranking as men. The power was almost as equal as you could get. So no one really owned the women.

I would also argue that many of these girls that dont slut it out, would be a little more slutty if social reputation was not a thing. Women do not inherently feel ashamed of their sexual actions. Its something I had to recently accept. It is us MEN who make them ashamed of it. You ever talk to a girl and ask her how she could **** so many men. They never feel internal guilt really, they just feel the external shame. Women dont view sex as sacred. We do....unfortunately. It hurts.

Anyways I may be wrong feel free to disagree bro.

 

[Pandora]

The men that are most attractive to women are the "bad boys" who let them express their sexual nature. These type of dark triad guys are not too concerned who they are fukking. Chicks love these types of dudes. The creepy dudes are the guys who think they are angels and want to lock them down. The cool guys know that she is a slut deep down and treat her as such. The beta square wants to control her sexuality and make her his wife. She will only go with the beta lockdown guy because of resources. She really wants to dude that knows what she really is.

Not saying they are all nasty pornstars. Im just saying.....stop trying to lock them down.

Pusha T Virginia Lyrics:
I been there, each year, a different ***** wonder
Who wing she gon' fall under, Push' or Mal', Gonz or Grimes
With me, with thoughts of ****in' them cross her mind
Look ma, that's right up my alley
I love my family, I want them all happy

Nas: ***** Kills:
Just a thought we all ****ed all the same chicks
Some play like they innocent ****ing entertainers
And basketball players the ***** is a hoe
But some of yall a save her put your **** in her throat

 

[Striker_93]

You just said in a another post that you'd never been to a nightclub in your life.

He sure did lol

 

[SW15]

From the male point of view, female promiscuity is a bit of female privilege. It doesn't take much of a woman to get sex. The overwhelming majority of men wish we could obtain sex as easily as a woman does. Women from ages 15-45 obtain sex easily.

In order to get a notch count of 10, it would take most men years or swiping and/or approaching. A female can get 10 notches from just showing up, wearing provocative clothing, and being horny. That would take 6 months or less.

 

[SW15]

Man, if hot women are approaching you, buying you drinks and initiating kino then you are experiencing something that 99.99% of other guys never experience. I could imagine an average looking chick doing that, but not a hot one.

I never experienced that at night at the bars/clubs from women at any level of looks. Nor have I experienced that in non-bar venues either. Few women have approached me over the years.

 

[SW15]

From what I've seen in the clubs I've surveyed, the vast majority of guys don't get approached in clubs and all either hang back looking sullen, or doing laps around the club looking thristy. There are also usually big groups of drunk lads who frequently just dance, get rowdy, approach a little bit some of them get hook ups, then start approaching heavily towards end of the night. They are usually aggressively approaching chicks, grinding up on them, getting rejected, move to the next target until one relents.

Bars and clubs are similar in that way. Doing laps around the place looking for options is a commonly seen behavior.

Starting in the 2010s, more men moved more of their game to swipe apps instead of doing what you describe in the bars/clubs. I'd say that the typical 25 year old female in 2019 got approached less in person than the typical 25 year old female in 2004 or 2009. In the 2010s, I saw less in-person approaching at night venues than I saw in the 2000s.

 

[Barrister]

Yeh so I hear ya man. Im not saying I am 100% right or that these anthropologist are 100% right. But hear me out. We are very influenced by our culture. It is possible for men to see women as community puzzy and not get jealous. This jealousy you feel could really be culturally influenced. For example, do you feel jealous in the strip club when the stripper is dancing on other men after giving you a lap dance? Why dont you? Does the pimp feel jealous when his worker is out on the track? Why doesn't he? Do you feel jealous when the town bicycle fukks another guy? Why dont you?

So you see it is possible to not feel sexual competition over women. A second point is that in the PRE agricultural tribes there were no alpha leaders. You are totally right about the POST agricultural tribes though. The POST agricultural tribes did have leaders that would be jealous. But the PRE AGRICULTURAL tribes had women on the same ranking as men. The power was almost as equal as you could get. So no one really owned the women.

I would also argue that many of these girls that dont slut it out, would be a little more slutty if social reputation was not a thing. Women do not inherently feel ashamed of their sexual actions. Its something I had to recently accept. It is us MEN who make them ashamed of it. You ever talk to a girl and ask her how she could **** so many men. They never feel internal guilt really, they just feel the external shame. Women dont view sex as sacred. We do....unfortunately. It hurts.

Anyways I may be wrong feel free to disagree bro.

I don't feel jealousy when the stripper starts grinding on the other man because I don't have any investment/ownership of her as my woman - nor is she under my sexual domain. If I saw my woman getting pounded by another man, it would elicit a completely different response than some random stripper getting pounded by the same man. My woman has committed herself to me in some way whether she is a plate, LTR, or wife. By sexually submitting herself to another man, that elicits a visceral response in me to protect what is mine. First, I am going to use force to dissuade the man from my property; but second, it is a violation of my relationship with my woman for her to submit to another man assuming she is doing it voluntarily.

I agree it is easy to not feel sexual competition over women you care nothing about it. But if you develop an attachment to them on some level - plate, LTR, wife - that is not going to be the case. Nor do I think that this is in any way influenced by society -- it is how we are wired as men.