In Group Female Promiscuity is natural

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Imagine taking something Allan Savory says seriously, this guys a mouthpiece for big agricultural corporations. His claims have been debunked numerous times. Allan Savory had the government slaughter 40,000 elephants to reduce desertification

 

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I am reading a book called Sex at Dawn. This book is solidifying many things I have long suspected. Though it does have hints of gynocentric propaganda, the book still makes some great points. The central thesis of the book is the following.

1.) Homo sapiens evolved in intimate tribes of no more than 150 members. Cooperation and sharing of EVERYTHING was strictly encouraged and it was the norm. Sharing of everything was a survival mechanism. Agriculture came and civilization was born. Civilization is actually not normal. Civilization turned all of our survival instincts on its head. Humans evolved in tribes where cooperation was the norm but in civilization competition is the norm . Essentially humans are mal adapted to civilization. Which I 1000% agree with.

2.) The book states that monogamy is not natural at all. This expectation of monogamy is a by product of civilization. In civilization accurate paternity identification is of the upmost importance because you have property to pass down. In tribal units you have nothing to pass down so paternity does not matter. Think Rick Grimes in the Walking Dead. He did not care that the baby was Seans baby. They were a small unit with no property.

3.). Sexual jealousy is actually a by product of civilization. It is socialized. Jealousy is not based on ensuring that your offspring are your genes. This is a common explanation stated by evolutionary biologist. They say that jealousy is an adaptive feature that ensures that our genes are passed down. If this were the case then you would be less angry when your brother has an affair with your wife vs when a stranger has an affair with your wife.

My personal experiences:

I have noticed that women are very promiscuous within a small intimate in group. Hypergamy goes out the window and its almost a free for all. The most beta ugly male can smash the hottest girl if the in group is isolated and small. For example the military. Military girls are the most promiscuous. They are doing what they were designed to do in small intimate groups that depend on each other for survival. This is not a bug. Its a feature.

I have also noticed that if a male is my friend ( i mean true 100% friend) then I do not mind sharing sexual partners with this male. This even applies to women I was in " love" with. The caveat is that I have to really like the male ALOT ( non sexually). There have been times when me and my best friend have shared the same girl. We have also seriously dated the same girl. There was not much jealousy. The jealousy only appeared when our friendship started getting strained.

In conclusion, eskimo brothers is natural and we need to stop expecting women to not be *****s. They are very sexually promiscuous within the group. Its a feature not a bug. This idea that they are sexually chaste has led to a lot of suffering in the modern world.
I read it as part of the rsd book list. Similarly, there's a lot of Geoffrey miller and other dorks pedaling cuckold despite the data. I prefer the tony Robbins approach - awaken the giant within. Read and field test. Disregard what you deem as nonsense.

A recent survey showed women switching off in marriage. Giving the ring dries up puss. It's fools mate. Fellas still cater to the follow the follower. Sheeple.

We got clown world. Dudes are raising some other man's kid. Despite these dorks knowing the data they pedal bs.

Take whatever you can. Disregard the rest.
 

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School teacher will smash 14 yr old boys. Is that hypergamy?
I can't believe I haven't contemplated this scenario yet. If one believes hypergamy is only the monkey branching for resources, and any desire is tapping into their biology as "the alpha" or as a masculine man, this doesn't fit either of those situations. I can't see a 14 year old being more masculine in the eyes of a female that most men, and the 14yo definite doesn't have resources. It flips the praxeology on it's head.
 

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Also, you have @Velasco liking your comments which is a sure sign you're on the wrong path. The Fat Hindi Slayer himself ;-)
Funny how you're quick to insult white, indian, asian, and most other races, but quickly mind your manners when you find out @Pandora is black haha. This makes you come of as a kj. Not insulting, just sayin'.
 

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To get women into bed quickly, I've found, requires Game.
Wrong, she finds you physically/sexually attractive as in your physical appearance or your sex appeal(the way you carry yourself)

As a attractive/handsome guy I can vouch for this 100%.....And all the slayers I ever known in my life didn't have "game" they just looked good and carried themselves well.

Every guy isn't attractive so I don't expect every guy to understand because everyone doesn't live in that reality.
 

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How can women be both selective and have chaotic sex with random dudes?

Are you honestly trying to convince this forum that, at core, women are not selective and their true nature is just to have chaotic sex with random men without any seduction process or Game/manipulation being involved?

Women who have chaotic random sex with dudes for purely the pleasure of having sex with random dudes usually fall into a demographic of fat gutter slvts and single moms. Women may also do it if drugs and alcohol are involved (and massively regret it the next day).

It's extremely rare to find an attractive nympho who is into casual sex with strangers. A woman might go through short self-destructive phases of doing that, maybe after a break-up. But it never makes them happy.

To get women into bed quickly, I've found, requires Game. She won't just do it because she loves having sex with strangers. You have to take her through an entire attraction process first before casual sex is even on the cards. If you don't believe that's true then you really aren't living in reality, son.

Also, you have @Velasco liking your comments which is a sure sign you're on the wrong path. The Fat Hindi Slayer himself ;-)
I was talking to a female yesterday about this topic. She was laughing at the naivety of the guys that think hypergamy is the only game in town. I told her that " men have no idea of the dark fantasies that women hold in their brain". Before I could finish my sentence she goes " yeh and it's always gangbangs". We both started laughing.

Look at the type of porn women look at. According to you it's some alpha stud riding in on a horse. No dude. It's raunchy nasty MFM gang bangs. If you ever actually had sex you would know that the prettiest girls want it the roughest and nastiest. They want you to call them dirty little ***** etc. This is not the sign of some demure little angel.

Again the men that have been promiscuous know how promiscuous women really are. Im not saying they are super slutty like men....but i am saying that we underestimate their actually sexual diversity.
 

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I can't believe I haven't contemplated this scenario yet. If one believes hypergamy is only the monkey branching for resources, and any desire is tapping into their biology as "the alpha" or as a masculine man, this doesn't fit either of those situations. I can't see a 14 year old being more masculine in the eyes of a female that most men, and the 14yo definite doesn't have resources. It flips the praxeology on it's head.
Bro this Pan87 dude will use his hypergamy model to justify everything. This is because he has only READ this stuff. Not lived it.

Women have sexual experiences with other women. They have more sexual experiences with other nwonen than men have with other women often times.

So according to Pan87 the women she let eat her kitty must have been more alpha than the men in the town ,.

Men desperately don't want to accept that women are more freaky than we ever imagined.
 

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You probably take advice from fish on how to catch fish too.

"I went and asked a woman about hypergamy and she told me what I wanted to hear"

....dude
No i have actually lived enough to see a lot when I was in my 20s and early 30s. I've hung around Chads and trust me it's a whole different world. I have hung around and dabbled in stuff that doesn't always fit into your hypergamy model. You are probably 21 yrs old and have never done anything you speak of.
 

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You're projecting your male attraction criteria onto women - women are not solely looks focused. You don't appear to understand what women's attraction triggers are, which is a combination of looks/status/charisma/game.

Handsome guys say the wrong stuff/behave the wrong way and blow it with women all the time.
Bruh explain why she would be sexually attracted to her 5 foot 2 super girly friend? Women have female to female sexual encounters. Explain that Mr hypergamy lol
 

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"Freaky" does not mean that women desire sex with random men without being selective.

Wake up bro. Women are selective. That's why this forum exists.
Bro i never said random bro. I said that they get passed around within a social circle and it's natural. Much like how we probably did it in tribal units. They know these guys within the circle. Girls routinely smash multiple dudes in a unit. I'm not gonna argue this much longer with you.
 

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Handsome guys say the wrong stuff/behave the wrong way and blow it with women all the time.
They also succeed most other times as well, like I said, every attractive guy will agree with me, if someone doesn't agree they simply don't live in that reality, fair enough.
 

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I don't buy this, for several reasons.

First of all, if the sharing of intimate partners was the norm throughout history, then you wouldn't expect jealousy and mate-guarding to be common human traits. And yet, they very much are. The disgust that one experiences at the idea of some other dude fvcking his woman is such a visceral feeling that it can't be merely a product of social conditioning.
They aren't common human traits they are the result of centuries of social constructing

If the above theory were true people wouldn't have such seemingly bizarre sexual fetishes

Orgys , threesomes , foursomes , cuckold yada yada yada

Modern women want as much d1ck as they can get .....you will rarely if ever be the first guy to fvck her and you will never be the last

You cannot claim "ownership" on another human via a relationship that concept in definition is a social construct
 

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In the world I live in, top-order celebrity men are getting brutally divorce-raped and #metoo'd. This idea that men, past a certain point of handsomeness, become untouchables is extremely naive. But I can see how it looks from the outside.

Good looking guys are a dime a dozen now. Gym bro culture is mainstream. There is intensive male competition for women which is generally increasingly the overall attractiveness of the male market, and decreasing the overall attractiveness of women. Such is the imbalance.

Male beauty is cheeeeeap.
I see where your trying to get at.

The only thing Ima need you to do is stop acting like there's no such thing as women throwing pvssy at guys who they find "hot" "sexy" "fine" "cute" ect

I have been personally experiencing it since I was in middle school so there's nothing anyone can say to make me thing otherwise, my personal experience speaks more volume then someone's opinion.
 

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In the world I live in, top-order celebrity men are getting brutally divorce-raped and #metoo'd. This idea that men, past a certain point of handsomeness, become untouchables is extremely naive. But I can see how it looks from the outside.

Good looking guys are a dime a dozen now. Gym bro culture is mainstream. There is intensive male competition for women which is generally increasingly the overall attractiveness of the male market, and decreasing the overall attractiveness of women. Such is the imbalance.

Male beauty is cheeeeeap.
You have no idea what its like to be an extremely handsome man. Stop lying on the internet. Just the fact you said the 50% cheating stat for women is over estimated exposes your ignorance. If anything women cheat more than men.

I was never an extremely attractive guy but i was good looking enough to party with them. To be friends with them. Trust and believe young women are way more nasty for them. I have lived with college athletes and they pass around girls like it's nothing. Even in the entertainment industry they are all fuking the same chicks you bozo.

You call my resume fabrication but i am willing put up pictures. Let's put up pictures of our faces and we will see who is really fabricating.

The problem with this forum is a lot of you f Gen Z guys come on here with no real life experience and want to tell older dudes about hypergamy you read in a book.

The Gen Z generation is not even having sex. They don't really know how much better it was even 15 yrs ago. So when I tell you that women actually used to smash regular dudes it sounds unbelievable to you. I get it.
 

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So I wonder if that also means you could bang your buddy's daughter once she grew boobs? But you didn't know if she was your daughter? I guess people probably died around 30-40 so maybe it's a moot point.
I mean, bestiality was going on during roman times. Which was long after the premise of this thread. So, I'd think you're right. It was probably a moot point.
 

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You have no idea what its like to be an extremely handsome man. Stop lying on the internet. Just the fact you said the 50% cheating stat for women is over estimated exposes your ignorance. If anything women cheat more than men.

I was never an extremely attractive guy but i was good looking enough to party with them. To be friends with them. Trust and believe young women are way more nasty for them. I have lived with college athletes and they pass around girls like it's nothing. Even in the entertainment industry they are all fuking the same chicks you bozo.
Yep, someone has seen some sh!t lol

I'm starting to think some of these guys don't go outside and have horrible social lives lol
 
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