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I think when you say "breed" it sounds dubious. Which is why I get where @Pan87 is coming from. A pregnancy takes 9 months alone, not to mention birthing and nursing the little bastards. This is the price (and reward) of sex for females. Unless you mean she's out bottoms up for the whole tribe and whoever's sperm gets their first is the lucky winner. I would think that during ovulation she would seek out the best mate, not roll the dice on the whole tribe. Also what about inbreeding?
Pan87 has little real world experience. He has never been in a small isolated group of very young horny adults. If he had he would know that there is a lot of " cross pollination" going on lol. Again I used examples such as frat houses, military girls, small towns etc. I even sent a damn video of a tribe being sexually liberal with a stranger and the alpha of the tribe didn't care. Guys just are too afraid to consider that women are more promiscuous than we think.
 

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Some of these tribes allowed strangers to mate with their women. They did this in order to mix up the gene pool. They offered women to their guest. They also mixed it up with neighboring tribes.

The following video shows an almost pre agricultural tribe offering their women to this white guy. Actually the women are desperately wanting his genes. They are really pressuring the white guy to fukk them. Notice how the men in the tribe just don't care. The actually encourage it. This is what I am talking about.

The Video is Called Living with the Hima Tribe for 24hrs

He was the first to say no to them in like ever and they all wanted him more
 

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I'm convinced Pandora and Velasco have some sort of cuckold fantasy where women are constantly sleeping with other men. They keep using personal anecdotes to support their warped views.
 

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Disagree. What I've experienced firsthand and seen tells me differently.


That just sounds naive, bro.

We all get it, game matters. It doesn't mean she has an itch that only you (or let's say, guys like us) can scratch. A lot of factors fall into place for sex to happen. How a man handles himself is just one. A horny attractive woman who's out for blood will forgive a lot of things. I can't believe you've never seen this happen, I'm sure you have.

When I was younger I thought game gave me some magic key. It did solve a lot of my issues. But it gave me an ego about myself. A healthy ego is crucial but I started to think if a girl threw herself at me, it was for my special sauce that she couldn't resist. It takes two to tango though. I learned long ago it's not all about me.
Women do go out to bars looking for a casual fling. They usually only do it very rarely and it's usually just a short phase in their life. They are usually doing it to feel good or after a break up. One night stands do happen.

It's not as common as it used to be before online dating but it does happen. I have been the lucky guy of this only a few times. The sex is usually akward because you guys have no real connection.

This Pan87 dude is young with a very low notch count ( or maybe a virgin). So these experiences seem unbelievable to him. Not worth arguing with him. He is the same dude that said women don't cheat that much . Notice he will never post his picture. I have before and will again.
 

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Yeah and such tribes still exist. Living in mud huts.
The whole point of my post is that we have to accept that women want to be sexually free. They never wanted monogamy. WE DID. Before civilization we let them be free.

When we marry them and they divorce us in 7 yrs...that is natural to them. This is not a bug. It's a feature. They were made to hop on dyck after dyck. They were designed for genetic and sexually diversity. We don't want to believe it but it's true.

Who cares about their pair bonding abiltiy. That only matters in civilization where pair bonding matters because of property. Well guess what, we didn't evolve from civilization. This civilization thing is very new to us. Our nature is short term coupling and moving on to the next.

Men would save themselves alot of pain if they just accepted this. No need to be angry when she cheats on you. She was designed to cheat just like we were designed to cheat. Don't be jealous. Just move on to the next female. That's my point essentially.
 

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This Pan87 dude is young with a very low notch count ( or maybe a virgin). So these experiences seem unbelievable to him. Not worth arguing with him. He is the same dude that said women don't cheat that much . Notice he will never post his picture. I have before and will again.
Pan87 is one of the few people on this forum that's legit and consistently picks up new girls on a regular basis. I've seen his picture on the Sydney telegram group so i don't doubt him.

I feel like you skimmed over some articles to cherry pick certain points to reinforce your own views. You have not provided a single piece of levidence for your cuckold fantasy
 

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Pan87 is one of the few people on this forum that's legit and consistently picks up new girls on a regular basis. I've seen his picture on the Sydney telegram group so i don't doubt him.

I feel like you skimmed over some articles to cherry pick certain points to reinforce your own views. You have not provided a single piece of levidence for your cuckold fantasy
A guy that says women don't cheat that much is picking up hot new girls every weekend hahahha. nigha shut your lying ass up.

Zimbabwe = Pan_87 with a new account
 

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Yeah. I was going to say those type of tribes were probably the closest thing to true form of communism. The dudes didn't care, because the resources were for the tribe, not the individual. I think that's why most men will become angry with the cheating. Their resources were involved.
Exactly brotha. That's what I'm trying to say essentially.
 

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Weird thread. Feel like there are two extremes fighting here.

I tend to side with @Pan87 - I don't think that women are quite as chaotic sexually as OP seems to be indicating. Most women that are highly promiscuous also tend to have zero high SMV options themselves (read: ugly). They think being easy is attractive - it isn't. I have known a number of women like this at varying points in my life. They generally develop a poor reputation fairly quickly and are not viewed as LTR material by any man with options. I don't think that this driven by civilization either. I don't see an alpha-leader of an ancient tribe being OK with some rando having sex with his woman.

Also - I can't imagine sharing my woman (or women) with any other man. And to be honest, sharing with a close friend is actually almost worse. Sounds like a recipe for disaster on multiple levels.
 

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You've seen a fat woman, who you think is hot, be sexually aggressive. And then you twisted it around in your tiny head and made a post about it here.

Hot women don't need to be sexually aggressive. Maybe when they are drunk it might happen, but as a general rule hot women don't approach any men because they are getting approached all the time. The most a guy might get is an inviting look. But she pounces on him and offers sex? No hot woman does that to a guy she doesn't know.
Your not a good looking guy so me and you no longer have anything to discuss because you don't live in my reality. Good day.
 

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On Africa, I found it interesting reading about how sex is used as a direct barter system in some parts of Africa. Some women literally get their pints of milk by banging the storeman behind the shop.
The storeman must be guzzling viagara by the bucketload :rofl:
 

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Pan87 is one of the few people on this forum that's legit and consistently picks up new girls on a regular basis. I've seen his picture on the Sydney telegram group so i don't doubt him.
Mate I like you because your one of the few guys here who likes to keep it real. But to believe anything that comes out of that pan guy's mouth or anything he posts shows me your own lack of experience. Read: naive. I've been around people who talk like pan. Hell I was similar to him back when I had a handful of lays to my name and thought I was hot sh1t. Same arrogant attitude lol. So I can see through him and all the other internet alpha males on here. The thread he keeps going on about where I posted a fat Indian chick's photo (it was him who posted it), is the thread where I exposed his lack of experience. And he lost his cool (just like here, where Pandora is exposing it also).

Here:

 

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You've seen a fat woman, who you think is hot, be sexually aggressive. And then you twisted it around in your tiny head and made a post about it here.

Hot women don't need to be sexually aggressive. Maybe when they are drunk it might happen, but as a general rule hot women don't approach any men because they are getting approached all the time. The most a guy might get is an inviting look. But she pounces on him and offers sex? No hot woman does that to a guy she doesn't know.
your right. hot women do not pounce as a female cat does. they simply target and make it so EASY for the guy that ANY male will figure it out. and at the same time, they will be patient and VERY forgiving of errors. at the extreme, they will even start defending what looks like a low-value man. when that happens, usually everyone but the most douche men will back off and give the guy the thumbs up. It's almost like a bug in her program takes over. when in private she will proceed to seduce him and take a lead if he does not. it's funny to watch this as men with self-declared high value will get really confused as they get rejected sometimes very harshly while the woman follows her target.

I have NO idea what the formula is to be that lucky guy, it just happens sometimes like rolling the dice. I do know for sure that it requires being in the woman's view so that she becomes aware of you. this is not a red pill thing at all as the target can be low value and low confidence.
 

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Mate I like you because your one of the few guys here who likes to keep it real. But to believe anything that comes out of that pan guy's mouth or anything he posts shows me your own lack of experience. Read: naive. I've been around people who talk like pan. Hell I was similar to him back when I had a handful of lays to my name and thought I was hot sh1t. Same arrogant attitude lol. So I can see through him and all the other internet alpha males on here. The thread he keeps going on about where I posted a fat Indian chick's photo (it was him who posted it), is the thread where I exposed his lack of experience. And he lost his cool (just like here, where Pandora is exposing it also).

Here:

No offense meant - but you’re the guy that once claimed he was “making out with women he just met within 30 seconds of meeting them” or some other rubbish. I don’t even know what Indian thread he’s referencing. If anyone here puts up a facade it’s you. Maybe not call out a guy as an “internet alpha” when you exhibit that exact behavior on here and act like you’re some master at the seasoned age of 27.
 

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The thread he keeps going on about where I posted a fat Indian chick's photo (it was him who posted it)
So why has Pan87 convinced himself that you are the one that posted it? I'm legitamtly confused.

@Pan87 please explain
 

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No offense meant - but you’re the guy that once claimed he was “making out with women he just met within 30 seconds of meeting them” or some other rubbish.
And it can (and does) happen much faster than that. Instant makeouts are a thing lol. It's neither a good or bad thing but they do happen. I'll post exactly where I claimed that.

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don’t even know what Indian thread he’s referencing
See the bottom of my post above where I said "here" and then linked the corresponding thread I'm talking about? There you go

Maybe not call out a guy as an “internet alpha” when you exhibit that exact behavior on here and act like you’re some master at the seasoned age of 27
When I refer to someone as an Internet alpha male. I'm referring the the stereotypical image that people think of when the word "alpha male" is brought up. There are guys who want to portray them themselves as being this image but do so in a way that is transparent to those who can see through them, that earns them that moniker.

Me I'm just as arrogant as I am in person as I am online. And yes I've mastered cold approach at 28. Having done this for 7 years. but there is more to life than that. Which is where I'm looking to take my talents ;)
 

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So why has Pan87 convinced himself that you are the one that posted it? I'm legitamtly confused.
Lol see? This is why I talk to you. Because I know your someone whose on here just tryna figure sh1t out. Keep it up.
 

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Mate I like you because your one of the few guys here who likes to keep it real. But to believe anything that comes out of that pan guy's mouth or anything he posts shows me your own lack of experience. Read: naive. I've been around people who talk like pan. Hell I was similar to him back when I had a handful of lays to my name and thought I was hot sh1t. Same arrogant attitude lol. So I can see through him and all the other internet alpha males on here. The thread he keeps going on about where I posted a fat Indian chick's photo (it was him who posted it), is the thread where I exposed his lack of experience. And he lost his cool (just like here, where Pandora is exposing it also).

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100% ....i always kept it civil but the way that dude talks down to anyone that has a different perspective is crazy. I thought 87 was the year he was born like 1987. But now I'm convinced he is alot younger and less experienced than I thought.

This is the Mature Man's forum. He ain't gonna bs us here. We are dudes that have seen a lot. Humility is the mark of someone that has seen a lot. He has none. He might have kissed a couple Australian girls but this dude has never pulled in the US or anywhere else for that matter. Sit down and learn.
 
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