I had a flirt session the other day. Ran into her again today. What to make of her behavior?

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What I want in life overall goes beyond the scope of this forum.

As for what I want to gain from the forum, I see where it might appear all I do is complain/make excuses. That being said, I've made baby steps lately to turn over a new leaf.

I downloaded some apps this past summer (per the recommendation of my therapist). I even attended 2 meetups from one of the apps.

I went to 2 speed dating events in the past 2 months.

I told the cafe girl she looked good the other day.

Without coming out and admitting interest in her, I purposely managed to get my next door neighbor to spill the beans on what type of man she's into (to gauge whether I have a chance with her)

What I want is better luck with the ladies (and reassurance that I'm capable of getting a woman)
OP have you tried max-dosing Vit D, B6 and Omega 3? Might be worth trying.

supplements for autism
 

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Many blue collar workers work in mostly male environments.

An auto mechanic will be working with other male auto mechanics, male service advisors (the people who interact with customers), and the manager will be male.

A plumber might meet some divorced female homeowners.
Come to think of it, a blue collar man who does a job where he goes to houses has a prime opportunity to meet/bang broads.
 

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What I want in life overall goes beyond the scope of this forum.

As for what I want to gain from the forum, I see where it might appear all I do is complain/make excuses. That being said, I've made baby steps lately to turn over a new leaf.
There is a lot to be gained from this forum outside of simple pickup tips. If you had spent any amount of time here I would think you’d realize this.

It’s good you’ve made some progress. You have a long way to go. I think your outlook is particularly frustrating to some of us because you have an excuse every time you’re given some information or advice. You are clearly scared/risk adverse. It’s plain as day. But you want to make excuses about how it’s “risky” to compliment women, etc. I apologize if some of this stems from your autism, but you will continue to fail if you interact women without any confidence. Females have a 6th sense and can smell it a mile away and they will dry up towards you very quickly.
 

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What I want in life overall goes beyond the scope of this forum.

As for what I want to gain from the forum, I see where it might appear all I do is complain/make excuses. That being said, I've made baby steps lately to turn over a new leaf.

I downloaded some apps this past summer (per the recommendation of my therapist). I even attended 2 meetups from one of the apps.

I went to 2 speed dating events in the past 2 months.

I told the cafe girl she looked good the other day.

Without coming out and admitting interest in her, I purposely managed to get my next door neighbor to spill the beans on what type of man she's into (to gauge whether I have a chance with her)

What I want is better luck with the ladies (and reassurance that I'm capable of getting a woman)
First of all ( also responding to @Hamurabimbi because imo 99% of members here have something) stop hiding behind your autism. I'm probably also an autist but you won't ever hear me use that as an excuse. It is what it is. I use my autism to hyper focus in dawning tasks that other people don't like. I use it to work 12 hours straight and get the job done.

Secondly, you are no more special than the next man. Here's the ( Caribbean) formula to get p00sy; you "buck-shot" your way into the game, meaning you shoot as many bullets as you can hoping one will hit. Your target as a 30 something year old man are women between 18 to 50. If you are on a lengthy dryspell you lower your standards for the time being.

You work out, make money, and try to expand your network. Youre a optimistic opportunist who does NOT tries to hide his love for women, even if at times they might feel you are creepy. Being "creepy" is part of being a man. Creepy, freaky, slick, smooth are all related in this context.

Stop whining bro.
 

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There is a lot to be gained from this forum outside of simple pickup tips. If you had spent any amount of time here I would think you’d realize this.

It’s good you’ve made some progress. You have a long way to go. I think your outlook is particularly frustrating to some of us because you have an excuse every time you’re given some information or advice. You are clearly scared/risk adverse. It’s plain as day. But you want to make excuses about how it’s “risky” to compliment women, etc. I apologize if some of this stems from your autism, but you will continue to fail if you interact women without any confidence. Females have a 6th sense and can smell it a mile away and they will dry up towards you very quickly.
Earlier in thread, it was mentioned that a lot of men in general (not just autists) are afraid to compliment/express interest in a woman at work. That's not a shortcoming on behalf of the individual man; it's merely a reflection of how out-of-control the new age feminists in HR have become.

On that note, let's point out another area where I'm terrified: Risking rejection from a woman I cross paths with on a regular basis.

It pisses me off how that's viewed as cowardly on my part. Everyone is different as far as what we're afraid of. Even if I don't dare to ask out a woman I regularly cross paths with, I'm brave enough I've done the following:

  • Go to a college where I knew no one (in a state where I knew no one)
  • 2 years after college, I moved to a place where I knew no one (with no job lined up)
  • Gotten many chest waxes
  • Got a full Brazilian wax once
  • Got tattooed
  • Visited places solo that I had never been before
  • Allowed total strangers from Craigslist into my apartment in college for casual sex
  • I even attempted to take my own life once 6 years ago (and nearly succeeded)

^ I guarantee a lot of posters who have no qualms about risking rejection from a woman they regularly cross paths with wouldn't dare to do one or more of the items I listed. So I reiterate: I'm not cowardly; we're all simply different in terms of what we fear.

The full Brazilian is particularly impressive. The technician I got the full Brazilian from said a lot of men quit as soon as she pulls the first strip of wax.

I never want to get a full Brazilian again. But I'd rather get full Brazilians every month for the rest of my time on this earth than get rejected even one more time by a broad I'm going to cross paths with again (I say this as a man who's been subjected to both. Even if the Brazilian hurts a lot more physically, the metaphorical pain runs much deeper when I get rejected by a woman I need to cross paths with again)
 

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There is a lot to be gained from this forum outside of simple pickup tips. If you had spent any amount of time here I would think you’d realize this.

It’s good you’ve made some progress. You have a long way to go. I think your outlook is particularly frustrating to some of us because you have an excuse every time you’re given some information or advice. You are clearly scared/risk adverse. It’s plain as day. But you want to make excuses about how it’s “risky” to compliment women, etc. I apologize if some of this stems from your autism, but you will continue to fail if you interact women without any confidence. Females have a 6th sense and can smell it a mile away and they will dry up towards you very quickly.
My infamous ex suddenly was diagnosed with autism and oh boy, soon as something did not went her way she threw the autism shield. Especially to justify her sh1tty behaviour and avoid the word " sorry".

Another homie also had autism. Perfect convenient excuse to wallow in self pity. Same story. Took years for me to understand he simply does NOT want to make progress.

OP didn't wanted to sleep with her anyway so why make a thread that's over 4 pages? If I had to make threads about women that flirt with me but I didn't do shyte because I was too much in my own head I'll be LITERALLY making 2 threads per day.

Shyte is annoying
 

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First of all ( also responding to @Hamurabimbi because imo 99% of members here have something) stop hiding behind your autism. I'm probably also an autist but you won't ever hear me use that as an excuse. It is what it is. I use my autism to hyper focus in dawning tasks that other people don't like. I use it to work 12 hours straight and get the job done.

Secondly, you are no more special than the next man. Here's the ( Caribbean) formula to get p00sy; you "buck-shot" your way into the game, meaning you shoot as many bullets as you can hoping one will hit. Your target as a 30 something year old man are women between 18 to 50. If you are on a lengthy dryspell you lower your standards for the time being.

You work out, make money, and try to expand your network. Youre a optimistic opportunist who does NOT tries to hide his love for women, even if at times they might feel you are creepy. Being "creepy" is part of being a man. Creepy, freaky, slick, smooth are all related in this context.

Stop whining bro.
Interesting you mention the thing about your possible ASD giving you a hyper-focus on work.

I'm the same way. One positive trait of ASD is our ability to hyper-focus on one task. For that reason, I excel at entry level jobs.

With how much I excel at entry level jobs, a lot of my peers/bosses through the years have ended up thinking I'd be superb at a promotion.

I'd be terrible at a promotion, however (and I say that as a guy who accepted a promotion once, which I then held from the ages of 22-24). As for why I'd be terrible at a promotion: Because once you get promoted, you no longer have just one task to hyper-focus on. Throughout the workday, several tasks will come up all at once. Many an autist (myself included) doesn't do well when there's too much happening all at once.

In a nutshell, everything I just said explains why (unfortunately) making more money is out of the question for me. It also explains why autists tend to either be jobless or work low level jobs (for every Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg, or even an autist working a 100k/year STEM job, there are way more autists like me who'll never make much money)

My target is a woman between the ages of 45-60s.

Lastly, to address the creepy thing. Every man is prone to getting viewed as creepy, I know. But there's a big difference between a few broads thinking you're creepy vs being viewed as the freaky creep of the school. If you spent high school being known as the freaky creep of the school, that means your apparent creepiness goes way beyond the typical guy.
 

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My infamous ex suddenly was diagnosed with autism and oh boy, soon as something did not went her way she threw the autism shield. Especially to justify her sh1tty behaviour and avoid the word " sorry".

Another homie also had autism. Perfect convenient excuse to wallow in self pity. Same story. Took years for me to understand he simply does NOT want to make progress.

OP didn't wanted to sleep with her anyway so why make a thread that's over 4 pages? If I had to make threads about women that flirt with me but I didn't do shyte because I was too much in my own head I'll be LITERALLY making 2 threads per day.

Shyte is annoying
Pregnancy phobia is the only reason I don't want to bang her.

As I mentioned on a prior post, I'd still like to go on a date with her, kiss her, fondle her, and watch her pee.

Or even if none of the above were to happen, it would at least be nice if she'd continue flirting with me on subsequent visits. When I was 26-ish, I worked in the same shopping center as a Starbucks. A female Starbucks employee would flirt with me every time I went in.
 

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Pregnancy phobia is the only reason I don't want to bang her.

As I mentioned on a prior post, I'd still like to go on a date with her, kiss her, fondle her, and watch her pee.

Or even if none of the above were to happen, it would at least be nice if she'd continue flirting with me on subsequent visits. When I was 26-ish, I worked in the same shopping center as a Starbucks. A female Starbucks employee would flirt with me every time I went in.
Yeah I forgot about that phobia. Like, why wouldn't you make your already difficult situation more impossible?

Are you afraid that giving birth gonna hurt you Vgg?

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Yeah I forgot about that phobia. Like, why wouldn't you make your already difficult situation more impossible?

Are you afraid that giving birth gonna hurt you Vgg?

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There's a workaround: Getting with a woman who's (at the very least) reached peri-menopause.

I'm afraid of pregnancy because I don't want to pollute a woman's womb with my genes, I don't want to raise children, nor do I want to be financially responsible for children.

As for what I want, I mentioned what I want with the cafe girl on the post you quoted.

What I really want, however, is ongoing casual sex with a woman in my preferred age range.
 

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There's a workaround: Getting with a woman who's (at the very least) reached peri-menopause.

I'm afraid of pregnancy because I don't want to pollute a woman's womb with my genes, I don't want to raise children, nor do I want to be financially responsible for children.

As for what I want, I mentioned what I want with the cafe girl on the post you quoted.

What I really want, however, is ongoing casual sex with a woman in my preferred age range.
Yeah whatever bro. I want 20 y.o redheads with curly hair blue eyes ,perjy t1ts and a apple booty. Last time I had that was LONG ago.

You don't wanna pollute a woman with your genes? Gtfo. You do indeed remind me of autistic homeboy who also comes up with the craziest shyte to justify his bytchazzness. Women WANT to be "polluted" by REAL men. That's what they like for.

If you don't wanna pollute women with your genes then you should leave them alone. Leave them. Focus on other shyte in life. This game ain't for you. For example, volleyball ain't for me so I don't play it. I don't go complain on a volleyball forum that "it hurt my hands" , get all kinds of solutions and then refute all those solutions.
Others already told you how women operate. The window will close quickly. Even IF she is attracted you can mess it up by something seemingly stupid as wearing the wrong colours of socks. Or laughing odd ,or even being "too happy" . Backwards, I know. But that's women.

If you don't love/appreciate the game then don't play it.
 

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Yeah whatever bro. You don't wanna pollute a woman with your genes? Gtfo. You do indeed remind me of autistic homeboy who also comes up with the craziest shyte to justify his bytchazzness.

If you don't wanna pollute women with your genes then you should leave them alone. Leave them. Focus on other shyte in life. This game ain't for you. For example, volleyball ain't for me so I don't play it. I don't go complain on a volleyball forum that "it hurt my hands" , get all kinds of solutions and then refute all those solutions.
Others already told you how women operate. The window will close quickly. Even IF she is attracted you can mess it up by something seemingly stupid as wearing the wrong colours of socks. Or laughing odd ,or even being "too happy" . Backwards, I know. But that's women.

If you don't love/appreciate the game then don't play it.
If I don't want to pollute a woman's womb with my genes, I should go for a woman old enough to where the pregnancy thing is irrelevant.

Living without volleyball is a lot easier than living without a woman. Even I have my backup plan (which I utilize to a massive degree) to get a woman's affection.

With how easy it is to kill a woman's interest level (wearing the wrong color socks, laughing odd, being too happy, etc), surely even the biggest Don Juans do stuff that would kill a woman's interest level. Yet somehow they're slaying.

As for me, I've been told I look like the following celebrities:

  • Sheldon from Big Bang Theory
  • Steve from Blue's Clues
  • Steve Carrell's character on The 40 Year Old Virgin and The Office
  • Hal from Malcolm in the Middle
  • Pee Wee Herman
  • Jared Kushner
None of these men look bad per se. But they don't have much sex appeal. It's pretty alarming that the famous men I remind a woman of the most are some of the men with the least amount of sex appeal.
 

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If I don't want to pollute a woman's womb with my genes, I should go for a woman old enough to where the pregnancy thing is irrelevant.

Living without volleyball is a lot easier than living without a woman. Even I have my backup plan (which I utilize to a massive degree) to get a woman's affection.

With how easy it is to kill a woman's interest level (wearing the wrong color socks, laughing odd, being too happy, etc), surely even the biggest Don Juans do stuff that would kill a woman's interest level. Yet somehow they're slaying.

As for me, I've been told I look like the following celebrities:

  • Sheldon from Big Bang Theory
  • Steve from Blue's Clues
  • Steve Carrell's character on The 40 Year Old Virgin and The Office
  • Hal from Malcolm in the Middle
  • Pee Wee Herman
  • Jared Kushner
None of these men look bad per se. But they don't have much sex appeal. It's pretty alarming that the famous men I remind a woman of the most are some of the men with the least amount of sex appeal.
You can pay for play.

And about these (hvm famous multi talented) actors? Wrong!!! I bet you that ALL those guys would tear the club up. A great actor makes YOU believe that they are what you see.

Read that twice mon ami.

I conclude (again ) that the combination of your preferences and phobias basically make you completely unfit to be a force to reckon with in the current dating market.

Did you read what I said?; carrebean knowledge: you buckshot your way into the game aiming at women between 18 /50. When you get good at it you narrow it down to your specific preferences.

You sound like a woman wanting a 666 man from one specific race while being obese, broke and having multiple baby daddies. But when people tell you to ADJUST you tilt. Just tilt. It is impossible for you to even PHANTOM a different perspective.

You are stubborn, annoying and thus unworkable.

Just quit the game and focus on your hobbies.
 

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You can pay for play.

And about these (hvm famous multi talented) actors? Wrong!!! I bet you that ALL those guys would tear the club up. A great actor makes YOU believe that they are what you see.

Read that twice mon ami.

I conclude (again ) that the combination of your preferences and phobias basically make you completely unfit to be a force to reckon with in the current dating market.

Did you read what I said?; carrebean knowledge: you buckshot your way into the game aiming at women between 18 /50. When you get good at it you narrow it down to your specific preferences.

You sound like a woman wanting a 666 man from one specific race while being obese, broke and having multiple baby daddies. But when people tell you to ADJUST you tilt. Just tilt. It is impossible for you to even PHANTOM a different perspective.

You are stubborn, annoying and thus unworkable.

Just quit the game and focus on your hobbies.
I fully believe the actors I mentioned could easily get cooch. The fictional characters they play, on the other hand?

If Sheldon, the 40 Year Old Virgin, or Steve from Blue's Clues were real, they'd struggle to get laid (Hell, the 40 Year Old Virgin's nickname says it all. As for Sheldon, his character never lost his v-card until he was past the age of 30).

Pee Wee Herman would be viewed as a total creep if his playhouse character was real. Same goes for Steve from Blue's Clues.

I know you said I should aim for 18-50. My preferences differ. I still have a pretty large sample pool I'm willing to go for, however (45-60s), some of which overlaps with the 18-50 demographic. I'm in no way comparable to the obese/broke single mom wanting her dream man.

I'd even go for a young woman...I just wouldn't have sex with one.

Lastly, based on what you said on your previous post, it sounds like every woman has a trigger that will make her immediately lose all interest (no matter how strong her initial attraction is)

Here's what pisses me off even more: From the sounds of it, every woman's trigger is different (So it's not as simple as "just refrain from doing xyz")
 

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I missed the "watch her pee" part.

I'm out dawg. This dude is a certified troll , probably bored in a stale marriage with a dead bedroom. Just messing with us and laughing whenever we respond.

PEACE
 

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I've never mentioned the Starbucks flirter from when I was 26 before.
 

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I agree with this if she was truly interested in that moment. I tend to think baristas/waitresses generally aren't interested in customers. On the off chance she was interested, then your analysis is perfect.
I think waitresses, tellers, and other customer service workers often show interest in you during the first 2-3 interactions. After that, if you continue returning, you become just another regular customer.

When I was younger, I used to go to this bank where an Eastern European woman would flirt with me every time I went in to make a deposit. I even earned some extra brownie points with her because one of my friends worked with her at a shoe store. Unfortunately, I never had the nerve to ask her out for various reasons.

More recently, in the past couple of months, I started picking up pizza from this hole in the wall spot instead of ordering through UberEats. One of the cashiers was a mid-sized woman who wore a push-up bra that noticeably increased the size of her breasts and made them bigger than what they were. During the first few visits, she seemed genuinely happy to see me, and there was one instance where I could have asked her out and she would have said yes right away. I didn’t, though, because I have a lot going on in my life. Now, she completely ignores me whenever I go in. It’s clear to me that the change in her behavior is her way of signaling disinterest, and I’ve subtly conveyed that I’m not interested either.

In the end, it’s clear that customer-service interactions are often fleeting, and the initial interest can quickly fade once you settle into the role of a regular customer. Whether it’s due to busy lives or changing dynamics, sometimes what seems like a potential connection just doesn’t develop the way you might hope.
 

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I've never mentioned the Starbucks flirter from when I was 26 before.
I'll take the bait

A woman peeing is part of having a woman who feels comfortable around you. She won't care to do that with the door open. Another reason to cut out this bs and follow the principles. You read my thread about the basics. Shows again you know absolutely nothing about women...

You fecking freak.
 

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She talked about my hair an awful lot. She asked if I dyed my hair, she said my hair looks good, she said she likes my haircut, she said my hair looks good a 2nd time.

After the 2nd time she said my hair looks good, I said "You look good too."



(To give you an idea of her looks, she's a busty Latina. I'd estimate she's early 20s. And even if she's older than early 20s, I'd say the odds are close to 100% she's below 30)
This is all likely much more foreboding than you recognize, if she's Latina from The Carribean
 

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