Getting jacked/ripped would eliminate 85% of the problems on this forum..

[soulforge]

100% agree. I've lost nearly 40 pounds in the past few months through the gym and proper diet. I hated the way I looked, hated myself, and had a relationship with a woman that didn't last and in hindsight was toxic. It messed me up even more than I was.

I was unhealthy, blood pressure out of control, and felt like garbage everyday I woke up.

Ditched the woman, got my ass in the gym, and I'm working on improving myself. I'm late to the game (35) but better late than never. I'm not 100%, but I'm in a much better frame than I was 4 months ago. Its only going to get better.

Lifting, working out, and proper diet does a lot more than just helping attract women.

Exactly this.. Weldone mate.. Keep it going!

 

[Mike32ct]

Zac Efron is 5'8 and muscular, women love him. The rock arguably has more charisma and is significantly taller, but i have yet to see any female fan girls.

Zac has a better face plus great hair.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Zac has a better face plus great hair.

so looks matter more than muscles loo

 

[soulforge]

Yes you do, you need to be in either a calorie deficit or maintain. Regardless, you still track and watch what you eat so don’t act like you aren’t doing shvt to seem mighty on the internet.

Adding an extra meal to your normal eating routine is not tracking calories ffs..

Reducing one meal a day from your normal eating routine is not tracking calories.

You jokers need to stop making excuses, by trying to add super complexity to something that is pretty damn simple to do.

You guys have every excuse under the sun, to downplay the benefits of getting ripped/jacked.

Bunch of lightweights haha

 

[jjflash]

OP presents zero evidence that anything he claims happened actually did happen.

It's all a figment of his imagination.

It just shows you how dumb and gullible most people are.

 

[nicksaiz65]

Adding an extra meal to your normal eating routine is not tracking calories ffs..

Reducing one meal a day from your normal eating routine is not tracking calories.

You jokers need to stop making excuses, by trying to add super complexity to something that is pretty damn simple to do.

You guys have every excuse under the sun, to downplay the benefits of getting ripped/jacked.

Bunch of lightweights haha

I’m a big proponent of IIFYM and calorie tracking, and very anti chicken broccoli and rice lmao. So just curious.

How do you lean bulk without tracking calories? Idk if I could do it lol.

When cutting, I can just reduce the portions to as small as I can, and still hit high protein. Then I’ll be fine.

But I’d be freaked out not tracking calories when bulking. Eat too much and you’ll gain unnecessary fat. Eat too little and you’re not giving your body the tools needed to gain muscle.

Just curious how you handle it without tracking!

 

[B80]

I’m a big proponent of IIFYM and calorie tracking, and very anti chicken broccoli and rice lmao. So just curious.

How do you lean bulk without tracking calories? Idk if I could do it lol.

When cutting, I can just reduce the portions to as small as I can, and still hit high protein. Then I’ll be fine.

But I’d be freaked out not tracking calories when bulking. Eat too much and you’ll gain unnecessary fat. Eat too little and you’re not giving your body the tools needed to gain muscle.

Just curious how you handle it without tracking!

Once you've been doing it for years you have baseline and diet routine.in the same way you reduce portions to lose weight, I just gradually increase the other way. I weigh tge food most of the time too, but don't don't count calories.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Zac Efron is 5'8 and muscular, women love him. The rock arguably has more charisma and is significantly taller, but i have yet to see any female fan girls.

Before he became a goody two shoes celebrity, his a**hole personality in wwf was far more wettening. Girls were falling all over for him. It was when he started smiling and being nicer that he lost his sex appeal.

 

[IKO69]

Surprised there are so many pages for this - this topic has been beaten to death

Between a fat out of shape guy and a man who is fit, of course women will prefer the in shape guy. Being muscular by itself isn't a magic bullet though.

Getting in shape is only one part of the pie. The other things, career ambition, how good you are with people etc are just as important. If you are on this site this should be straight forward and you should be looking to improve the ENTIRE package, not just one aspect.

For many guys, the woman being nice looking is enough, but that isn't necessarily the case with most women (yes there will be times you'll succeed simply just because you look good - that's what spring break etc is all about).

 

[jjflash]

Before he became a goody two shoes celebrity, his a**hole personality in wwf was far more wettening. Girls were falling all over for him. It was when he started smiling and being nicer that he lost his sex appeal.

Rock's wife during his WWE days. Passable enough, but not exactly "hot."

 

[nicksaiz65]

Once you've been doing it for years you have baseline and diet routine.in the same way you reduce portions to lose weight, I just gradually increase the other way. I weigh tge food most of the time too, but don't don't count calories.

Interesting. So you just kinda use the scale and adjust your eating based on that.

I can see how that work! I’m gonna have to count calories for the rest of my life though cause I’m paranoid I guess lol. They’ll have to take my food scale from my cold dead body

 

[IKO69]

Rock's wife during his WWE days. Passable enough, but not exactly "hot."

She had stuck by him since the beginning when he didn't have anything if I remember correctly. She was/is a good woman.

I remember when the Rock was younger in the WWF, women loved him. They liked the persona.

It doesn't surprise me nowadays younger women might prefer Zac Efron, of course, he is younger while Rock is probably 50+ years old now. He appeals to a different generation attraction wise --- he is however beloved by EVERYONE.

 

[cola]

Rock's wife during his WWE days. Passable enough, but not exactly "hot."

Everybody doesn’t go for the “hottest” girl they can pull. Sometimes, it’s about finding a good person who compliments you and brings you peace when you come home.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Who says the rock is red pilled. He could be a blue pill natural. That woman could have been his "soul mate".

The Rock is definitely blue pill. I've been a fan for a long time. He is from a family of blue pill. He might have a football and wrestling upbringing, but he is also privileged and pc af.

 

[jjflash]

Everybody doesn’t go for the “hottest” girl they can pull. Sometimes, it’s about finding a good person who compliments you and brings you peace when you come home.

She brought him so much peace when he came home he divorced her. 2X Failure.

Dwayne Johnson is a satanist who eats children, btw. Y'all are dumb AF to worship this clown.

 

[B80]

Interesting. So you just kinda use the scale and adjust your eating based on that.

I can see how that work! I’m gonna have to count calories for the rest of my life though cause I’m paranoid I guess lol. They’ll have to take my food scale from my cold dead body

I did use my fitness pal for a bit years ago when getting into diet and the odd occasion since when trying different approaches, such as lower carbs, higher fat etc, but have t touched it for years now.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Adding an extra meal to your normal eating routine is not tracking calories ffs..

Reducing one meal a day from your normal eating routine is not tracking calories.

You jokers need to stop making excuses, by trying to add super complexity to something that is pretty damn simple to do.

You guys have every excuse under the sun, to downplay the benefits of getting ripped/jacked.
Bunch of lightweights haha

If it’s so easy then every guy will be walking around with a six pack lmao. You are right it’s pretty damn simple, but not everyone has the discipline and lifestyle to support it

 

[Bandolero]

If it’s so easy then every guy will be walking around with a six pack lmao. You are right it’s pretty damn simple, but not everyone has the discipline and lifestyle to support it

You said it.
Closed

 

[jjflash]

There is no evidence that "getting ripped/jacked" leads to longer life, better health, or higher quality of life. Typically, it's the reverse. High caloric intake is associated with lower life span.

There's a strong case to be made for being physically active and moderate levels of exercise, but not for the extremes you see being promoted in film and magazines.

Very often it's an unnatural combination of:

1. steroid abuse

2. dehydration

3. excess protein consumption

4. excess calorie consumption

5. exorbitant investment of time in weightlifting (many of these guys practically live at the gym)

More often than not, it's a product of someone being highly responsive to steroids/hgh and getting that weird jacked bodybuilder look.

btw, the bodybuilder forums are littered with endless stories of gymcels so there's actually overwhelming evidence that getting jacked/ripped doesn't help at all and is a huge turnoff to a large percentage of women.

 

[jjflash]

btw, I've met quite a few D1 athletes in elite high profile sports programs. I've also met a number of pro athletes, and a shockingly large percentage in both groups don't have girlfriends and have moderate success at best in dating. Interestingly, many working actors with significant credits have trouble dating as well.

Even in pro sports, many teams are in less glamorous markets such as Kansas City or Oklahoma City or Milwaukee where there are few if any opportunities to exploit a "groupies scene." Not to mention probably 95% of college athletes are in low profile schools most people have never heard of.

A jacked/ripped linebacker at Aberdine State of the Crimson Hearts Wyoming ain't gettin' much play unless he has a steady girlfriend.

I can 100% guarantee OP is absolutely pulling sh-t straight out of his azz. He is truly delusional.