Getting jacked/ripped would eliminate 85% of the problems on this forum..

[jjflash]

At least someone can see through the veil. You'll be labeled crazy as 90% cant see thru the Matrix. You cannot be at the top without selling your soul to Satan. The Cawk, I mean Rock is Illuminati. Never forget when he posted a nude photo of his daughter pool side thinking to myself did he really just post that for the world to see. It was one of the most inappropriate things I've seen a celeb post on their social media. Or the time he posted his daughter peeing but saying he forgot to censor the pic. Yeah, ok. Notice how the media labels it hilarious. Trying to normalize this disgusting behavior. Jason Momoa was caught on film rubbing his daughters chest at a ceremony. Your favorite celebs are all pedo's.

Nobody jokes about this kind stuff, let alone do a skit about it on TV unless they are one.

That evil smirk
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It's pretty much all of them. The more money and fame they want, the more severely compromised they have to become.

But more to the point, his ex isn't especially attractive and there are many millions of men who can date and marry beautiful women without becoming roid freaks and satan worshipers like Dwayne Johnson.

 

[Snag87]

So attack formation, you mean to tell me every nfl linebacker or defensive end,
every celebrity who got big for a role, every big swole guy you see at the gym is on steroids?
Every last one of them?

No, but NFL linebackers aren't really ripped. They're large, athletic and fast, but body fat percentages generally aren't fitness model level low.

Oh, and the majority of NFL linebackers are on PEDs in any case.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

No, but NFL linebackers aren't really ripped. They're large, athletic and fast, but body fat percentages generally aren't fitness model level low.

Oh, and the majority of NFL linebackers are on PEDs in any case.

Don't forget the role that genetics plays.

I'm not saying they don't work their a$$ off in the gym cause they definitely do, but without the proper genetics there would be no point.

 

[jjflash]

No, but NFL linebackers aren't really ripped. They're large, athletic and fast, but body fat percentages generally aren't fitness model level low.

Oh, and the majority of NFL linebackers are on PEDs in any case.

It is unquestionably the norm and the overwhelming majority of elite athletes in combat sports and in many other sports are using PED's. This includes but is not limited to: MMA, boxing, baseball, football, basketball, track and field, pro cycling, and likely many other sports as well.

PED's are commonplace in amateur and collegiate athletics as well, even at community colleges and probably at the high school level to a large degree. Once a few start using and gaining an edge, everyone else is forced to use them just to keep up.

 

[HaleyBaron]

So what if they used PEDs? I'm assuming you guys didn't use anything and are as swole as them, or at least comparedly fit. It feels like I'm listening to guys with beer guts complaining at a bar about how the world is so unfair. You're saying how the athletes are using stuff to make themselves huge, yet what do you guys have to show in any kind of progress? If you were actually fit yourselves, you wouldn't complain. In fact, you would respect them having a modeled body. I really don't like bringing insults to people. You guys unfortunately seem like straight beta men looking down on muscled men. It's the equivalent of fat women complaining about fit women. And we know at least one of you are fat.

 

[Snag87]

So what if they used PEDs? I'm assuming you guys didn't use anything and are as swole as them, or at least comparedly fit. It feels like I'm listening to guys with beer guts complaining at a bar about how the world is so unfair. You're saying how the athletes are using stuff to make themselves huge, yet what do you guys have to show in any kind of progress? If you were actually fit yourselves, you wouldn't complain. In fact, you would respect them having a modeled body. I really don't like bringing insults to people. You guys unfortunately seem like straight beta men looking down on muscled men. It's the equivalent of fat women complaining about fit women. And we know at least one of you are fat.

I'm in elite physical shape. I don't take PEDs because I don't need to.

 

[Bandolero]

I would pay to see how this discussion would went , if the environment would be different.

Let's imagine this started in a bar, and everybody got already a few in.

 

[HaleyBaron]

I'm in elite physical shape. I don't take PEDs because I don't need to.

And yet you're complaining about some other guys being in elite physical shape. As you said, they're large, athletic and fast. I don't know about you, but you're sounding like how women talk about other women. "She's has big breasts, but I bet they're fake!"

 

[zekko]

There is no evidence that "getting ripped/jacked" leads to longer life, better health, or higher quality of life. Typically, it's the reverse. High caloric intake is associated with lower life span.

I don't have stats on it, but that is my observation also. Being in shape is a good thing, but I haven't seen guys with a lot of bulk living longer lives. There's even a supposed correlation to running too much and an early death. There's a point of diminishing returns.

As for dating: Considering how many people are out of shape these days, just being in shape should be a big plus. It's weird, because there are more people out of shape than ever before, but at the same time there are more guys "jacked" than ever before. It's funny how both extremes are going on at the same time.

 

[Snag87]

And yet you're complaining about some other guys being in elite physical shape. As you said, they're large, athletic and fast. I don't know about you, but you're sounding like how women talk about other women. "She's has big breasts, but I bet they're fake!"

How is that a complaint?

 

[jjflash]

I don't have stats on it, but that is my observation also. Being in shape is a good thing, but I haven't seen guys with a lot of bulk living longer lives. There's even a supposed correlation to running too much and an early death. There's a point of diminishing returns.

As for dating: Considering how many people are out of shape these days, just being in shape should be a big plus. It's weird, because there are more people out of shape than ever before, but at the same time there are more guys "jacked" than ever before. It's funny how both extremes are going on at the same time.

All extremes are bad: getting absolutely zero exercise is terrible for your health. Becoming a 'roid monkey doing nothing but lifting and drinking protein shakes is terrible for your health. A moderate level of physical activity is best for your health.

Avoiding sunlight completely is devastating for your health. Spending all day in the sun unprotected is terrible for your health. Getting 10-15 minutes of unprotected sun exposure and/or going out early mornings or evenings with low UV exposure daily is optimal.

It's amazing that people can't figure this out. But absolutely, in clown world, people are pulled towards the extremes with normal people becoming increasingly rare.

The most beautiful women in the world are healthy young women with natural bodies and no makeup but you rarely if ever see that now. You either get IG "hotties" with a mountain of makeup, fake boobs and eyelashes, tats everywhere or fat Karens with green hair with one side of their head shaved carrying around a black dildo in her purse and a BLM logo on her XXXL t shirt.

 

[HaleyBaron]

How is that a complaint?

How is it not?

 

[Snag87]

How is it not?

Why are you answering my question with a question? You claimed it was a complaint, therefore the burden of proof falls upon you to provide evidence that it was.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Why are you answering my question with a question? You claimed it was a complaint, therefore the burden of proof falls upon you to provide evidence that it was.

Your reply to cola:

No, but NFL linebackers aren't really ripped. They're large, athletic and fast, but body fat percentages generally aren't fitness model level low.

Oh, and the majority of NFL linebackers are on PEDs in any case.

That was a complaint.

 

[Snag87]

Your reply to cola:



That was a complaint.

We both know what my comment was. The point of contention is how was it a complaint?

You've repeatedly stated my comment was a complaint, yet you're unable to expand or supply any explanation as to how it was a complaint. If this is the highest level of sophistication you're capable of, I suppose we can just move on...

 

[HaleyBaron]

We both know what my comment was. The point of contention is how was it a complaint?

You've repeatedly stated my comment was a complaint, yet you're unable to expand or supply any explanation as to how it was a complaint. If this is the highest level of sophistication you're capable of, I suppose we can just move on...

Stop acting like you suddenly lack comprehension of simple concepts. Your entire post is you complaining about the PED taking athletes. "They're not a real fitness body." Again, you're sounding like women who complain about other women. Which is the basic point of you guys who are in this thread arguing against fitness. You come from a place of insecurity which is female energy.

 

[Snag87]

Stop acting like you suddenly lack comprehension of simple concepts. Your entire post is you complaining about the PED taking athletes. "They're not a real fitness body." Again, you're sounding like women who complain about other women. Which is the basic point of you guys who are in this thread arguing against fitness. You come from a place of insecurity which is female energy.

Haha, I'm anti fitness? I'll compare physiques anytime buddy

Why are you putting into quotation marks a statement I never made? Sure, they're real. Enhanced by roids, but still real. I have no issues with NFL players using roids.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Sure, they're real. Enhanced by roids

Your insecurity is showing.

 

[Snag87]

Your insecurity is showing.

Ah, way to move the goalposts.

So, I'll take your unwillingness or inability to address how my original comment was a complaint as a rather evasive concession.

Guess we'll do this dance again. How is my insecurity showing?

 

[soulforge]

If it’s so easy then every guy will be walking around with a six pack lmao. You are right it’s pretty damn simple, but not everyone has the discipline and lifestyle to support it

Really dude I am quite worried about your mindset.. You seem to struggle with grasping simple concepts.

How many percentage of men can achieve 6 pack abs huh? Not many!

Most men especially over a particular age, 30 years & onwards are perfectly happy with a good muscular frame.. Muscular chest, arms & good legs, without the need to count & watch every calorie in order to achieve 6 pack abs.

What planet are you on? Oh Yeh the one where they have every excuse under the sun to avoid physical improvements lol