Getting jacked/ripped would eliminate 85% of the problems on this forum..

[Guy69JackBlue]

Some of the worst 2.5 years of my life living in Cambs.

 

[Robert28]

My success rate with women would skyrocket if I’d get some visible tattoos. I’m not even kidding. Last year I went to a huge Halloween party and I dressed up wearing a plain white t-shirt, jeans, bought some really nice fake tattoos and put one that was under my shirt coming up to my neck, and the rest I did on one arm. When I tell you I had more women come up to me and initiate conversation “so what are you supposed to be?” I’m not kidding.

 

[zekko]

My success rate with women would skyrocket if I’d get some visible tattoos. Last year I went to a huge Halloween party and I dressed up wearing a plain white t-shirt, jeans, bought some really nice fake tattoos and put one that was under my shirt coming up to my neck, and the rest I did on one arm. When I tell you I had more women come up to me and initiate conversation “so what are you supposed to be?” I’m not kidding.

That makes me a little sad, because I have absolutely zero interest in getting any tattoos, and I'm sure not getting any just to impress some random women. Take it or leave it, girls. But I could see them drawing more interest, because it's practically a form of peacocking. Men don't have a huge selection of accessories, so I suppose tattoos fill that void. It's also possible that the type of women who are attracted to tattoos are more aggressive and will initiate more conversations.

 

[Joseph Defranza]

I think the aesthetic bodybuilding movement (Zyzz, Jeff Seid, etc.) has proved that once you're shredded, girls are way easier. If you're jacked, the only thing that can really hurt your dating life is a lack of game.

 

[HaleyBaron]

That makes me a little sad, because I have absolutely zero interest in getting any tattoos, and I'm sure not getting any just to impress some random women. Take it or leave it, girls. But I could see them drawing more interest, because it's practically a form of peacocking. Men don't have a huge selection of accessories, so I suppose tattoos fill that void. It's also possible that the type of women who are attracted to tattoos are more aggressive and will initiate more conversations.

They are also trashier.

I think the aesthetic bodybuilding movement (Zyzz, Jeff Seid, etc.) has proved that once you're shredded, girls are way easier. If you're jacked, the only thing that can really hurt your dating life is a lack of game.

The people who say getting fit doesn't work never put in the work to prove it. And if they say they're fit, they're lying through their teeth.

 

[zekko]

The people who say getting fit doesn't work never put in the work to prove it. And if they say they're fit, they're lying through their teeth.

I don't think I can agree with this. If that were true, every guy who was in shape would have girls swarming all over him. Different guys have different issues with women, they may be socially awkward for instance, or have an unattractive face. Even the post before yours said lack of game can hurt you if you are fit.

 

[HaleyBaron]

I don't think I can agree with this. If that were true, every guy who was in shape would have girls swarming all over him. Different guys have different issues with women, they may be socially awkward for instance, or have an unattractive face. Even the post before yours said lack of game can hurt you if you are fit.

But being fit is still an in regardless. It doesn't have to be a guarantee. What matters is that now you're in the game. I can make the most awkward guy into a muscle head, and his chances will still go up. That is the point of this thread and point of being a man. Women are drawn to physically fit men.

 

[Joseph Defranza]

They are also trashier.



The people who say getting fit doesn't work never put in the work to prove it. And if they say they're fit, they're lying through their teeth.

Agreed. They do what they think is just good enough, and then complain.

Getting jacked is key because when a woman looks at a man's shredded physique, it triggers a primal arousal in her brain. In many cases, it bypasses a lot of steps other men otherwise would have to take to get laid and removes some effort. Assuming these girls are giving you the typical choosing signals that jacked guys receive, all you have to do moving forward is not be a weirdo and have some game and you'll be okay. Look at girls' reactions to the physiques of aesthetic bodybuilders on youtube. They're literally incapable of containing their excitement/arousal.

The guys of the aesthetic movement have done a great job of proving to the world how easy gaming girls can be if you satisfy the Alpha-seed side of hypergamy.
And no, you don't have to be yoked like that year-round. Girls react the same to Jon Bernthal's physique and his body is nowhere close to the level Zyzz, Jeff Seid, or Jon Skywalker... he pretty much just looks like an above-average, in-shape soldier. Just put in some work to the gym and you guys will be fine

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

I don't think I can agree with this. If that were true, every guy who was in shape would have girls swarming all over him. Different guys have different issues with women, they may be socially awkward for instance, or have an unattractive face. Even the post before yours said lack of game can hurt you if you are fit.

Just as often...

Getting jacked can make a guy look very insecure. Most gym rats that I see hang out with each other. Some may be with girls, but not any more than skinnier guys who are still in shape.

Heck, I've even seen obese broke guys with attractive girls because they gave off a dominant vibe that might scare lots of other guys.

People on this forum are way too black and white thinking.

 

[B80]

Just as often...

Getting jacked can make a guy look very insecure. Most gym rats that I see hang out with each other. Some may be with girls, but not any more than skinnier guys who are still in shape.

Heck, I've even seen obese broke guys with attractive girls because they gave off a dominant vibe that might scare lots of other guys.

People on this forum are way too black and white thinking.

I think the looking insecure part comes down to how you carry yourself. If someone looks a bit uptight, or awkward and expects women to flock to you on that alone then its not going to help you much. I can usually tell pretty quickly about someone judging by their body language, how they're behaving and women tend to be much more perceptive. Like you say, it's not always someones size/physique that indicates someones dominance. You get the vibe of all shapes and sizes that they're not be messed with.

If you come across reasonably normal, have a decent personality it can be another point or two towards how attractive others find you.

It's certainly not the golden bullet to a life full of beautiful women, but I'd assume most on here know that. Need to be well rounded and this is just another facet that adds to that.

Women tend to gravitate to the most attractive person in the group/situation at that time. If they're in a room full of fairly normal guys, with similar attritubtes, but one is loaded moneywise, he may get more attention than the others. If you have the same men in the same scenario, then another turns up, who is also wealthy and excellent shape he'll become more attractive than the other guys and it becomes his situation to lose.

 

[soulforge]

Just as often...

Getting jacked can make a guy look very insecure. Most gym rats that I see hang out with each other. Some may be with girls, but not any more than skinnier guys who are still in shape.

Heck, I've even seen obese broke guys with attractive girls because they gave off a dominant vibe that might scare lots of other guys.

People on this forum are way too black and white thinking.

Jacked men tend to know many other jacked men.. Social circles etc.. Pretty much every jacked/ripped dude I know is super confident..

Again the dudes you are talking about are the outliers.. Expexctions to the rule.

Exceptions do not make the rule. You do realise you are debating like a female right now? By continuly pointing out oddities!

That's a very female strategy of debate (clutching straws) The lack of T running through your body is more likely the root cause of this.

 

[soulforge]

I don't think I can agree with this. If that were true, every guy who was in shape would have girls swarming all over him. Different guys have different issues with women, they may be socially awkward for instance, or have an unattractive face. Even the post before yours said lack of game can hurt you if you are fit.

Every guy who is fit cannot have hot girls, as being fit is only one part (important) part of the component to doing well with women.

You need other attributes too. But the being fit/jacked will definitely gain you more smv points than a scrawny or average/obese dude.

Why is this so complex to understand.

 

[B80]

Every guy who is fit cannot have hot girls, as being fit is only one part (important) part of the component to doing well with women.

You need other attributes too. But the being fit/jacked will definitely gain you more smv points than a scrawny or average/obese dude.

Why is this so complex to understand.

Indeed mate. One of the main angles is that it takes up most your life, which it really doesn;t have to. I struggle to believe most of those that complain are doing more productive stuff all the time.

I lift more often, but seems I'm one of the few that enjoys it. I do it regardless of women, thats an extra bonus. It definitely makes a difference, amount of comments, women grabbing my arms when out, being blatantly stared at by women in that way etc. To discard it indicates you probably never been in top x% in physical appearance.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

Jacked men tend to know many other jacked men.. Social circles etc.. Pretty much every jacked/ripped dude I know is super confident..

Again the dudes you are talking about are the outliers.. Expexctions to the rule.

Exceptions do not make the rule. You do realise you are debating like a female right now? By continuly pointing out oddities!

That's a very female strategy of debate (clutching straws) The lack of T running through your body is more likely the root cause of this.

Awww.

You so badly wish you were tough.

Keep trying to convince everyone. Maybe someone will believe you some day.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

Indeed mate. One of the main angles is that it takes up most your life, which it really doesn;t have to. I struggle to believe most of those that complain are doing more productive stuff all the time.

I lift more often, but seems I'm one of the few that enjoys it. I do it regardless of women, thats an extra bonus. It definitely makes a difference, amount of comments, women grabbing my arms when out, being blatantly stared at by women in that way etc. To discard it indicates you probably never been in top x% in physical appearance.

Well I run a business non-stop.

I also manage to squeeze in trips around the world every free chance I get. Traveled to over 60 countries.

Going to the gym is what isn't productive. Not even for health.

 

[lost_blackbird]

I don't think I can agree with this. If that were true, every guy who was in shape would have girls swarming all over him. Different guys have different issues with women, they may be socially awkward for instance, or have an unattractive face. Even the post before yours said lack of game can hurt you if you are fit.

Oh yeah, that's me alright. Few friends, but I make friends with dogs with ease. I really like dogs,
people not so much.... I think it's because dogs don't lie or hide their true feelings so are easy to read
and they understand the concept of loyalty despite their limited intelligence.

 

[Jor-El]

This thread is like a relay race for members on this site to argue their points.

Well,yes...its the whole Raison d'etre of this site of course.And im glad thats the case,because its helpful reading everyones view,and coming to your own conclusions

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

lol... 5'9 with 8-9% bf, 205 pounds and "natural". Serge Nubret was 6'0 with a 200 pound competition weight and 212 pound offseason weight as a pinnacle steroid user. Get the fvck outa here.

This is what im talking about. I recognize being talked to like im stupid because i have dealt with fake natties in real life. I know the game. Fake naturals know that the steroid use isnt the problem, it's their lying. But if they didnt lie they wouldnt feel special or receive the adulation they want from other people.

Dude you’re utterly topped off with excrement.
You jelly? Do you even lift bro?

 

[zekko]

Every guy who is fit cannot have hot girls, as being fit is only one part (important) part of the component to doing well with women.

You need other attributes too. But the being fit/jacked will definitely gain you more smv points than a scrawny or average/obese dude.

That's basically what I'm saying. It's one important part, but as @B80 said above, it's no golden bullet. It could be for some guys, I bet there are many guys who get in shape and it's like flipping a switch. It depends on what holds them back in the first place.

 

[soulforge]

That's basically what I'm saying. It's one important part, but as @B80 said above, it's no golden bullet. It could be for some guys, I bet there are many guys who get in shape and it's like flipping a switch. It depends on what holds them back in the first place.

Even if you didn't get much improvement with the girls... So what.

You are stronger than what you used to be.
You can pick, lift heavier things.
You can run/climb more efficiently than before.
You command much more respect than the average looking guy from other men.
You could handle yourself better in a physical fight.
Your confidence will have gone through the roof in most cases.. Unless your a complete keyboard warrior, basement dwelling beta cuck, like some dudes are on this forum lol.
You will have a Daily activity routine that you enjoy participating in.

The benefits.. Besides woman are many.. You cannot lose.