Getting jacked/ripped would eliminate 85% of the problems on this forum..

[B80]

Just as often...

Getting jacked can make a guy look very insecure. Most gym rats that I see hang out with each other. Some may be with girls, but not any more than skinnier guys who are still in shape.

Heck, I've even seen obese broke guys with attractive girls because they gave off a dominant vibe that might scare lots of other guys.

People on this forum are way too black and white thinking.

I think the looking insecure part comes down to how you carry yourself. If someone looks a bit uptight, or awkward and expects women to flock to you on that alone then its not going to help you much. I can usually tell pretty quickly about someone judging by their body language, how they're behaving and women tend to be much more perceptive. Like you say, it's not always someones size/physique that indicates someones dominance. You get the vibe of all shapes and sizes that they're not be messed with.

If you come across reasonably normal, have a decent personality it can be another point or two towards how attractive others find you.

It's certainly not the golden bullet to a life full of beautiful women, but I'd assume most on here know that. Need to be well rounded and this is just another facet that adds to that.

Women tend to gravitate to the most attractive person in the group/situation at that time. If they're in a room full of fairly normal guys, with similar attritubtes, but one is loaded moneywise, he may get more attention than the others. If you have the same men in the same scenario, then another turns up, who is also wealthy and excellent shape he'll become more attractive than the other guys and it becomes his situation to lose.

 

[soulforge]

Just as often...

Getting jacked can make a guy look very insecure. Most gym rats that I see hang out with each other. Some may be with girls, but not any more than skinnier guys who are still in shape.

Heck, I've even seen obese broke guys with attractive girls because they gave off a dominant vibe that might scare lots of other guys.

People on this forum are way too black and white thinking.

Jacked men tend to know many other jacked men.. Social circles etc.. Pretty much every jacked/ripped dude I know is super confident..

Again the dudes you are talking about are the outliers.. Expexctions to the rule.

Exceptions do not make the rule. You do realise you are debating like a female right now? By continuly pointing out oddities!

That's a very female strategy of debate (clutching straws) The lack of T running through your body is more likely the root cause of this.

 

[soulforge]

I don't think I can agree with this. If that were true, every guy who was in shape would have girls swarming all over him. Different guys have different issues with women, they may be socially awkward for instance, or have an unattractive face. Even the post before yours said lack of game can hurt you if you are fit.

Every guy who is fit cannot have hot girls, as being fit is only one part (important) part of the component to doing well with women.

You need other attributes too. But the being fit/jacked will definitely gain you more smv points than a scrawny or average/obese dude.

Why is this so complex to understand.

 

[B80]

Every guy who is fit cannot have hot girls, as being fit is only one part (important) part of the component to doing well with women.

You need other attributes too. But the being fit/jacked will definitely gain you more smv points than a scrawny or average/obese dude.

Why is this so complex to understand.

Indeed mate. One of the main angles is that it takes up most your life, which it really doesn;t have to. I struggle to believe most of those that complain are doing more productive stuff all the time.

I lift more often, but seems I'm one of the few that enjoys it. I do it regardless of women, thats an extra bonus. It definitely makes a difference, amount of comments, women grabbing my arms when out, being blatantly stared at by women in that way etc. To discard it indicates you probably never been in top x% in physical appearance.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

Jacked men tend to know many other jacked men.. Social circles etc.. Pretty much every jacked/ripped dude I know is super confident..

Again the dudes you are talking about are the outliers.. Expexctions to the rule.

Exceptions do not make the rule. You do realise you are debating like a female right now? By continuly pointing out oddities!

That's a very female strategy of debate (clutching straws) The lack of T running through your body is more likely the root cause of this.

Awww.

You so badly wish you were tough.

Keep trying to convince everyone. Maybe someone will believe you some day.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

Indeed mate. One of the main angles is that it takes up most your life, which it really doesn;t have to. I struggle to believe most of those that complain are doing more productive stuff all the time.

I lift more often, but seems I'm one of the few that enjoys it. I do it regardless of women, thats an extra bonus. It definitely makes a difference, amount of comments, women grabbing my arms when out, being blatantly stared at by women in that way etc. To discard it indicates you probably never been in top x% in physical appearance.

Well I run a business non-stop.

I also manage to squeeze in trips around the world every free chance I get. Traveled to over 60 countries.

Going to the gym is what isn't productive. Not even for health.

 

[lost_blackbird]

I don't think I can agree with this. If that were true, every guy who was in shape would have girls swarming all over him. Different guys have different issues with women, they may be socially awkward for instance, or have an unattractive face. Even the post before yours said lack of game can hurt you if you are fit.

Oh yeah, that's me alright. Few friends, but I make friends with dogs with ease. I really like dogs,
people not so much.... I think it's because dogs don't lie or hide their true feelings so are easy to read
and they understand the concept of loyalty despite their limited intelligence.

 

[Jor-El]

This thread is like a relay race for members on this site to argue their points.

Well,yes...its the whole Raison d'etre of this site of course.And im glad thats the case,because its helpful reading everyones view,and coming to your own conclusions

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

lol... 5'9 with 8-9% bf, 205 pounds and "natural". Serge Nubret was 6'0 with a 200 pound competition weight and 212 pound offseason weight as a pinnacle steroid user. Get the fvck outa here.

This is what im talking about. I recognize being talked to like im stupid because i have dealt with fake natties in real life. I know the game. Fake naturals know that the steroid use isnt the problem, it's their lying. But if they didnt lie they wouldnt feel special or receive the adulation they want from other people.

Dude you’re utterly topped off with excrement.
You jelly? Do you even lift bro?

 

[zekko]

Every guy who is fit cannot have hot girls, as being fit is only one part (important) part of the component to doing well with women.

You need other attributes too. But the being fit/jacked will definitely gain you more smv points than a scrawny or average/obese dude.

That's basically what I'm saying. It's one important part, but as @B80 said above, it's no golden bullet. It could be for some guys, I bet there are many guys who get in shape and it's like flipping a switch. It depends on what holds them back in the first place.

 

[soulforge]

That's basically what I'm saying. It's one important part, but as @B80 said above, it's no golden bullet. It could be for some guys, I bet there are many guys who get in shape and it's like flipping a switch. It depends on what holds them back in the first place.

Even if you didn't get much improvement with the girls... So what.

You are stronger than what you used to be.
You can pick, lift heavier things.
You can run/climb more efficiently than before.
You command much more respect than the average looking guy from other men.
You could handle yourself better in a physical fight.
Your confidence will have gone through the roof in most cases.. Unless your a complete keyboard warrior, basement dwelling beta cuck, like some dudes are on this forum lol.
You will have a Daily activity routine that you enjoy participating in.

The benefits.. Besides woman are many.. You cannot lose.

 

[zekko]

Even if you didn't get much improvement with the girls... So what.

Agree, there's no downside to getting in shape.

 

[Plinco]

I’m telling you it’s no greater feeling than walking into a room with a shirt that could possibly be considered a size too small and watching girls eye-f*ck you when you walk by.

Men hold you in a higher esteem and automatically give you respect. Girls will walk up, touch your biceps and open you.

Your coworkers will respect you, your performance at work will improve, your family will admire you ..Your energy and mood will be better, you’ll have stronger erections Girls will put out faster, and you’ll have access to quality, fit women you did not have before.

I advise anyone who is struggling in dating, confidence or life in general to put down the phone and go to the gym right now.
If you are completely clueless, hire a trainer and nutritionists. If you know a little bit, read more and experiment and get those gains.

it will fix almost everything ..

In addition to this, not having mental problems as well

 

[HaleyBaron]

This shouldnt be a debate. We have thousands of years of human history where the fittest were usually the leaders of society. They were looked up to by men and women. It was standard for a man to be fit having gone through childhood physical training. Reminder that the first world is a misnomer. In reality, first world means "female world."

 

[zekko]

This shouldnt be a debate. We have thousands of years of human history where the fittest were usually the leaders of society. They were looked up to by men and women.

There's no question you should be in shape, for yourself if no one else. And you are more likely to get women if you are fit than if you are not. I'm just saying it isn't necessarily a magic bullet (again, it could be for some guys), so thinking that it is could discourage some people.

I know there was at least one guy here who said the reason he worked out was to get women. They say you should do it for yourself, but I figure if that's what motivates you and keeps you in the gym, more power to you.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

This shouldnt be a debate. We have thousands of years of human history where the fittest were usually the leaders of society. They were looked up to by men and women. It was standard for a man to be fit having gone through childhood physical training. Reminder that the first world is a misnomer. In reality, first world means "female world."

I think common laborers and serfs were in better shape than the rulers honestly

 

[Velasco]

 

[Larry Lurex]

I look at exercise like this. If you store a fancy car in the garage and rarely use it then it lasts longer but if you take that car out all the time and drive it then it doesnt last as long. Why put extra miles on your body with exercise? We are the only animal on earth that exercises just for the fun of it. Be like a LION and use your energy sparingly when you need it. Also while you meatheads are in the gym all the time just remember that theres guys hitting on your women while your in the gym and some of them might even be sleeping with your girl while your hitting the weights all the time.

A garage-queen Porsche that is rarely driven has known rear main seal leak issues that can damage the motor.

 

[HaleyBaron]

If the guy in the last panel got fit, he'd still look good cause he has a nice face, too. There's nothing wrong with stacking attractive traits.

 

[zekko]

If the guy in the last panel got fit, he'd still look good cause he has a nice face, too. There's nothing wrong with stacking attractive traits.

I get what you're saying, but if that guy starts bulking he would likely change his aesthetics. Sometimes if it ain't broke, don't fix it. It's not like he looks unhealthy.