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I don't deny white men (or even Hispanic men too I suppose; I rarely see escort ads banning Hispanic men) have access to better-looking escorts.

Then I suppose it is discriminatory for an escort to ban black clients for any reason.

I guess my point was it doesn't necessarily mean she hates black men. This one escort (half white, half Latina) I was with when I was 25 said she had a black boyfriend, yet refused to see black clients. Her rationale: She said a BBC feels good to her when she's with him for pleasure. But since escorting is strictly business, a BBC is too painful (that's why she doesn't see black clients).

As an analogy, an escort in her 50s refused to see me because of my age (she makes you be at least 40). Does this mean she hates young guys? Not necessarily.
The effects of a discrimination is hateful whether or not the person discrimination actually hates or not.

You've also said a mouthful by saing "strictly business"... completely puts you out of the mood. It should be more like "I'm buying your a$$", and she like "your wish is my command master". What is this strictly business nonsense. She supposed to be your b1tch. She is my business, lol!

(The last paragraph was in my mindset when dealing with the last escort before the spiritual attack. I really believed that escort was my b1tch for that moment.)
 
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THIS.

I’m flabbergasted that we have this discussion going on on this board. Like wow. The few wh0remongers that post about this shyte are like lesbians and other women that are obsessed with invading traditionally male spaces JUST BECAUSE.

Why are prostitutes even discussed here? Isn’t the goal of this site the getting a woman who wants you?
 

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There is a sub-discussion, within this thread (which was mainly between me and the OP) as to whether using an escort can make someone more familiar with women if they are not intereacting with any woman at all. For example, I have not physically touched a woman since 2017 in any capacity or way, or being alone with any woman. The OP was getting played at too many times by civvies before he started using escorts.

The OP has indicated that he was able to see a couple of "civvies" after he visited an escort, but has not confirmed that this has made him more familiar dealing with women in general. He also indicated there was a 6 year gap which does not look very promising that an escort can make you feel more comfortable around civvie women, especially in my case, when there could be a risk for a nuclear spiritual attack.
Another thing is: Knowing I can fall back on escorts removes some of the incentive to pursue civvies. Which could partially explain the 6 year gap.
 

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CAN WE STOP USING THE TERM "CIVVIES" TO DESCRIBE NON-PROSTITUTES?

JFC.

USE THAT ON BOARDS DEDICATED TO THE PURSUIT OF PROSTITUTES.


Another thing is: Knowing I can fall back on escorts removes some of the incentive to pursue civvies. Which could partially explain the 6 year gap.
 

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Another thing is: Knowing I can fall back on escorts removes some of the incentive to pursue civvies. Which could partially explain the 6 year gap.
Good enough. Will look at thread again on Friday. On full time job thing.
 

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Good enough. Will look at thread again on Friday. On full time job thing.
Since some of the users on here really don't like the term civvie, I'm going to say "non-escort."

Here's yet another explanation for the 6 year gap (of non-escort lays): I find it way too awkward to cross paths with a girl I got rejected by (I speak from experience. Been there, done that, never again). This means if I'm going to make a move on a non-escort, she has to either:

1. Be a woman I'm highly unlikely to run into ever again post-rejection.

Or

2. I have to be 100% sure she's into me before I make my move.
 

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People like @Murk and @Gamisch are Black, or have Black in them, and have managed to deal with "no black" escorts.
No I haven’t lol. If they have an NBA policy (no blacks allowed) then despite me looking Middle Eastern or Mexican… I just don’t bother. You need to find someone who will be comfortable and enjoy it, no point paying to convince a chick to feel relaxed.
 

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You underestimate how deep the racism problem is in North America then. It's not as free and liberal place like Amsterdam in that way.

For the record, I did reference @Murk and @Gamisch but THEY are not dealing with North American prostitutes. They are dealing with European prostitutes. I don't think Europe, or Amsterdam as a whole has the same type of social issues like America or Canada (ie especially Quebec, Canada).




How would you know how things work in North America?



Right, and if I were in Amsterdam and was under that climate then I'd probably agree with you. Amsterdam is a more progressive and inclusive country as a whole than North America is. (To be fair, there are also a number of non-racist normal escorts here who only care about money rather than the race of the client, so I'm not saying ALL escorts are like that, but definitely a significant number that would make someone who is Black, or have Black-in-their-blood, feel uncomfortable when searching out for an escort, and may end up dealing with someone other than the one they really want because they are not racist, which puts the experience too much like you are looking for a date with someone who likes your race enough to deal with you rather than really searching for an escort as a customer. That should not be on a mind-set of a customer or it adds a level of trauma being "othered" even in that process). Thus, the experience of using prostitutes vastly differes from the country you are using them in.

If I went to Thialand, the Domenican Republics or Mexico/Columbia then using their prostitutes would be different because the whole country and culture is different. Same thing with India. Each country has their own independent unique culture of how these things operate.



If you see the type of guys who use prostitutes, then that would kill the appetite of wanting to use them, that's for sure.



I doubt Amsterdam has any local incel population.
Bro you're in Toronto, its a literal sh1t hol3 there. Guelph is probably more your speed, we're getting inundated with East Indians.
 

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Since some of the users on here really don't like the term civvie, I'm going to say "non-escort."

Here's yet another explanation for the 6 year gap (of non-escort lays): I find it way too awkward to cross paths with a girl I got rejected by (I speak from experience. Been there, done that, never again). This means if I'm going to make a move on a non-escort, she has to either:

1. Be a woman I'm highly unlikely to run into ever again post-rejection.

Or

2. I have to be 100% sure she's into me before I make my move.
The same chad users (who never have to use an escort by the way) who are bothered by the term is the same people who dont agree with this topic in the first place. You want to pander to them? They look down on you for using escorts period. I will start using the term non-chad rather than normies and sub-5s.
 

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Since some of the users on here really don't like the term civvie
Who cares what they like or dont. Its not like you are doing something against forum rules (as far as I know).

Just ignore them and hold your f0cking ground. But where they might have a point is that threads like this should be in the "Anything Else" Forum.
 

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Since some of the users on here really don't like the term civvie, I'm going to say "non-escort."

Here's yet another explanation for the 6 year gap (of non-escort lays): I find it way too awkward to cross paths with a girl I got rejected by (I speak from experience. Been there, done that, never again). This means if I'm going to make a move on a non-escort, she has to either:

1. Be a woman I'm highly unlikely to run into ever again post-rejection.

Or

2. I have to be 100% sure she's into me before I make my move.
Women are by default, non-escorts. There is no need to use that term. Likewise, I don’t need to identify myself as a Non-giggalo.
 

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Escorts are nasty. I have never hired one and I never will. Arent you guys that hire them concerned about how many men that escort has been with? Gross!!! I will say though that I think it should be legal in all countries for a man to hire an escort if he wants one.
What you are talking about could be post-nut clarity after using one, especially if another "client" is walking in the door as you are walking out. Things like that can give you a nervous break-down, especially if you were into it and had a hot session. It's an industrial-level of guys she's been with.

The only thing I can think of is if you do softcore things (ie dancing, cuddling, holding, or mutual fapping, etc..) then it shouldn't be that bad.
I have not even been in the same room or breathing space with an escort since Dec 5, 2014. The nervious breakdown was just too bad to try it again. However, I might at some point entertain the idea of being in the same room and leave just to see if that would trigger anything else (ie like don't touch her or do anything, but just see if some "spirit" would attack a day or two later).
 

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Escorts are nasty. I have never hired one and I never will. Arent you guys that hire them concerned about how many men that escort has been with? Gross!!!
Are you concerned with how many clients have driven in the taxi/Uber you just ordered?
What's gross is to pay the 2023 list price for a brand new Mercedes S500 and receive an used 2001 Hyundai ... that's a metaphor for marrying a woman with notch count. Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez engagement is gross. o_O
 

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You don't know. Unless you believe prostitutes are succubi who can sustain themselves on energy, they probably share the same breathing space as you do when you go shopping for groceries or take public transport or go to the gym or visit a bookstore.
Even spiritual concept issues have their own rules and laws to follow. In a public space, nobody has any power over me. If I go inside a room that an escort works, and sees other men, then that room as a different energy than a public space, and especially if I give money and go into that room myself, then I put myself under the power of whatever spiritual forces are also inside of that room that are running the show behind the scenes. These spirits have other spirits that they report to and have an agenda in order to spread evil and corruption among men. When I enter THEIR space, I become like a spy or someone up to no good to them. They will say, "Look, there is a Christian partaking in this thing, what is he up to?" If I actually engage the prostitute then, it might be like "Lets have some fun and torment this Christian. Lets go and get him.".

However, they are quite harmless when you are not under their control because they simply can't have any rights over you.

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Oh, please keep us informed on your riveting future prostitute adventures full of black magic and spirit attacks.
Why are you behaving so childish? What is wrong with you?
 

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Folks, take your meds. You clearly need them.
 
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