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If you do actually get to ask her out, let us know if the reality matches the expectation. When I was in college many springs ago, I had a girl who I absolutely adored for well over 2 years. I didn't have the balls to ask her out because she always had guys hovering... until we took a class...

Like a bunch of us said in your other threads, DUMP HER. We already told you the WHY she is doing this. We already told you HOW to resolve this, and you keep posting thread after thread. Stop it. Stop doing this. Because things couldn't be more clear cut. If 3 months into this...

I had a three year relationship in which I was the one who did the dumping... and by the time I did the dumping, I was 150% convinced that we shouldn't be together. You'd think I'd just grab my ball and leave the court happily. It still took me time to get over it. You get used to having that...

How old are you, Cerwin? Regardless of age though... I hate it when the immediate solution for some is "spin plates". Sometimes you just need to go through stuff. And that's another thing that I see a lot of people just trying to avoid... FEELING. You are allowed to feel angry, sad, lost...

Stop messing around. You want to know what's up? Ask her out one more time for a drink or two. Kino, escalate, kiss at some point and stop dancing around all of this. Kino reciprocation isn't always a given on the first few dates. It could happen, it could not happen. That's why you test...

You recover from it by starting over with another girl, not by pursuing this girl. It's already too far gone. She doesn't see you as a potential man for her anymore. Start over with new women and make sure you don't go past Date #2 without at least trying to kiss close, being sexual, etc...

Huh? Why would she do this? She GAVE you ALL the reasons she would do this. This forum is full of reasons, and this thread is full of examples of WHY she would do this. This is one of those cases where it couldn't be any MORE obvious what you did absolutely wrong. She's doing it because...

Yet another man who is considering a woman willing to cheat on her boyfriend... as LTR-worthy. Sorry, but homey don't play that. They serve no greater purpose than temporary fvck-buddies. I'm willing to bet HE doesn't know they are "on the rocks", but it's her mental justification for...

Sounds like she is just doing it for the attention... and you are giving it to her. Cut that chit-chat out and tell her to go out with you and you can talk all about it over drinks. But you're falling back into the AFC mindset... She's taking you down because she just wants to see if the...

Game. Over. You've already lost her. She's begun the branch swing process.

You failed the moment you sat down and watched a reality TV show with her. :kick: ;)

Oh boy... I am perfectly willing to bet that her complains all stem from ONE thing: You got comfortable. I am absolutely am sure that her complaining about the coupons, the never going anywhere new, etc, etc, etc... is because she knows you got too comfortable and fell into a routine...

Lostsoul, Let me tell you a little story about a "friend" of mine. Over a year ago, I was going through a transition in my life. At the time, there was a co-worker of mine who got real close with me. We were friends at the time. She helped me through a lot, and there was no real attraction...

I have to agree with Espi... and I wouldn't doubt if she: (A) Flakes on you again (B) Does show up but doesn't spend too much time there (C) Shows up and sabotages he meet She says she has doubts. You then totally tried to qualify yourself to her. She has all the power right now and she...

Newsflash: He thinks he's been going on dates. She doesn't. I just think there is a lot of inconsistencies and incongruence on display. "I like this woman." "I don't doubt things are platonic now." "I don't want her to be my fvck buddy." No one is saying pump and dump. What we are...

This is all you need to know then. You are JUST a friend. Maybe a kissing friend... part-time, but you are in the friend-zone, regardless. I don't care how you want to rationalize this, but she's basically telling you this is the case. You just might be Orbiter #1 to her, but that's about...

The call later didn't help, but I am pretty sure before that point, she had already decided that she wasn't going to go out with him. Personally, whenever some woman decides to do that to me, I don't even respond. The onus is on them to counter-offer. If they don't, I'll just assume...

I didn't read any of the other responses, because I wanted to have a completely unbiased opinion. I didn't even read any of the OP's responses either. It's unnecessary. Based on what I read... I think the OP is taking a little TOO long to initiate anything. She's 37. She's expecting the 28...

Note to all men that are aspiring DJs, the OP is EXACTLY how to do EVERYTHING wrong in a relationship. The red flags ABOUNDED and still, he valued himself way lower than he valued her. (1) First love and first GF..... from CL. (2) The clap (3) Daddy issues (4) Abortion (5) Can't live on...

I think you are still looking at this the wrong way. You are being WAY too hard on yourself and all that is going to do is make you a lot harsher on yourself and a lot more subjectively self-aware whenever a woman decides she wants to go out with you. You aren't going to truly figured out...