Mind games and mixed signals

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First post, and this seems like the right place to ask for input:

Pre-cursor: she displayed extreme signs of interest, would constantly follow me around, initiate contact, asked me out to drinks, etc. then it dropped off after we had already gone out a couple of times and hung out a few times (one on one).

** Didn't kiss on close either the date or the second time we had a date-ish event but did keep performing Kino escalation but she didn't really reciprocate aside from bumping into my arm a few times.

Then she tried to make me jealous, gave me the cold shoulder, and a couple of major blow offs, so I cut her loose as it was obvious she was playing games or just flat out not interested. Now she's constantly hovering around me, leaving people she was talking to be next to me, staring at me then looking away quickly when I catch her doing it, if I move somewhere she'll move there, and certain points completely lock gaze for a few seconds give a smile then look away, etc.

However, she won't initiate conversation and if I initiate she'll either be completely caught off guard and try to scramble sentences together or just completely act aloof.

I've pretty much just ignored her games, didn't let them phase me, or when need be just walked away and left her to face the situations she brought on herself alone (or her if the situation requires) till now simply because I figured giving a reaction - such as calling them out seemed over the top at this point of the interaction and shows too much concern.

What's the best way to curb this for the foreseeable future? It's becoming boring (not to mention has been going on for way too long) and preventing the interaction from progressing to something worth while.


** Yes I know I should have kissed on close - before the wave of messages come in saying that; but right now that's in the past - the question is how do I recover from it and stop the games.
 

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You recover from it by starting over with another girl, not by pursuing this girl.
It's already too far gone. She doesn't see you as a potential man for her anymore.

Start over with new women and make sure you don't go past Date #2 without at least trying to kiss close, being sexual, etc...

The point of Kino isn't for her to reciprocate, it's for you to start breaking down boundaries. Don't take her lack of kino as an indicator... you had all those other signs there present.

But as far as THIS girl is concerned, you are better off just not trying anymore. Too much has happened by this point. NEXT.
 
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You can't recover from this in her eyes you look like your soft/scared. Stop with this kino **** and just start learning to go for the kiss. Kino without a kiss looks weird/gay. 2 dates and all you did was touch a arm. Do you know how weird that looks and you are lieing to your self saying she's playing games your playing games. You guys make this way harder than it has to be if she goes out with you she's interested stop with the kino bull**** and just go for the kiss from now on. When ever I go out with a woman I start the date with a kiss instantly. Just a kiss on the lips to let the woman know I'm trying to be her man and not her friend. U guys have got to stop playing these girl games. Woman play games men do not. These kino games acting like you don't care are all games. Stop with the game playing like a woman. These games just let's me know your scared of making the move. She knows it and I know it. Boldness shows that you are not scared. Hesitation shows you are not use to being around women. Which gets validated to the woman that you are either gay or a lames. Either or she does not want you in her life. Just start over with a new chick. Everything you do around this woman will be weird now. Since you are taking so long to close!!
 
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Kailex said:
You recover from it by starting over with another girl, not by pursuing this girl.
It's already too far gone. She doesn't see you as a potential man for her anymore.

Start over with new women and make sure you don't go past Date #2 without at least trying to kiss close, being sexual, etc...

The point of Kino isn't for her to reciprocate, it's for you to start breaking down boundaries. Don't take her lack of kino as an indicator... you had all those other signs there present.

But as far as THIS girl is concerned, you are better off just not trying anymore. Too much has happened by this point. NEXT.
you are completely right!!
 

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I did more than Kino her arm, was going for thighs, small of back, stomach, upper back, etc.

Surely Kino reciprocation is an important aspect of comfortable escalation though?

So do I just ignore her completely as I have been? The thing is the more I do this the more she tries to be in my face..Surely that means there is some possiblity of turning this in my favour?
 

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Stop messing around.

You want to know what's up? Ask her out one more time for a drink or two.
Kino, escalate, kiss at some point and stop dancing around all of this.

Kino reciprocation isn't always a given on the first few dates. It could happen, it could not happen. That's why you test the boundaries, unlike you did the first two times.

Stop the games by not playing them yourself. Stop wasting your time. Get her to go out with you and follow through or move on.
 
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bdbee said:
I did more than Kino her arm, was going for thighs, small of back, stomach, upper back, etc.

Surely Kino reciprocation is an important aspect of comfortable escalation though?

So do I just ignore her completely as I have been? The thing is the more I do this the more she tries to be in my face..Surely that means there is some possiblity of turning this in my favour?
read my post on "Game 4 you LAMES", because you fit the title of LAME!! " I touched the small of her back". So the f@ck what!!! Just the fact that you remembered where you touched her, is kind of weird/scary!! Did you f@ck - NO!!! Everything else is irrelevant!! She's in your face now cause you are her "puppy dog" "girlfriend" "p@ssy boy". Just go find some one else and don't make the same mistakes!! You can't MAN up after she sees you as a boy!!
 

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Mixed signals is LOW interest, case closed, leave my courtroom.

A girl that is sh1t testing you doesn't know wheter she likes you or not, she's not sure about you.

Don't waste time on girls that have low interest or give you headaches, find a interested one
 

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You deal with it by not dealing with it. You walk away. Let her rope some chump into playing her games and chasing her while she is in it for the pure fun of it.
 
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