Why men are losing interest in women

Rollo Tomassi

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AMF: I regret that you seem to think that generalizations are in any way a bad thing. You can capitalize the word MANY as often as you like but it simply doesn't change the fact that what you are refering to is the exception to the rule with regards to non-traditional gender roles. Man bites dog, could it happen? Yes, but it's notable for being an exception to the general rule; the exception proves the rule. Stereotypes, archetypes, whatever term you're comfortable with, work because they are generally predictable in agiven sample. We don't study exceptions to form a hypthesis for a control group, we study the whole.
 

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Originally posted by Rollo Tomassi
AMF: I regret that you seem to think that generalizations are in any way a bad thing. You can capitalize the word MANY as often as you like but it simply doesn't change the fact that what you are refering to is the exception to the rule with regards to non-traditional gender roles. Man bites dog, could it happen? Yes, but it's notable for being an exception to the general rule; the exception proves the rule. Stereotypes, archetypes, whatever term you're comfortable with, work because they are generally predictable in agiven sample. We don't study exceptions to form a hypthesis for a control group, we study the whole.

Rollo, I'm in full agreement with you.
 

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No, stereotypes "work" because they're convenient.

You sound like a true empiricist, but empiricism cannot deal with the statistical variation found in real life, the variation found outside the scope of your understanding and your "sample."

Epistemologically, a "sample" is no more valid than one man's opinion.
 

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

Originally posted by PuertoRican_Lover
You lying bastard!!

You are officially on my Homo list!!! You are not a "Alpha Male" you are a "Alpha Homo"!!!
LOL nice fundie impression PR_L.

I'll tell those two horses ****ing over there that they're having delusions ;)
 

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Originally posted by AMF
No, stereotypes "work" because they're convenient.

You sound like a true empiricist, but empiricism cannot deal with the statistical variation found in real life, the variation found outside the scope of your understanding and your "sample."

Epistemologically, a "sample" is no more valid than one man's opinion.

How many girl friends do you have?
 

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AMF: Opinion is not the same as a statment of fact. You can argue with me as to why you think purple is the best color in the rainbow and have a lot of good reasons to back this up, but you're not going to convince me that the sky is purple.

Actually sterotypes are so convenient because they reliably predict behavior. Do they predict this behavior unerringly? Of course not, but the average results become so predictable that you can base thesis on it. Just ask anyone in marketing or advertising if they base their business decisions on sterotypes. Pornography is a multi-trillion dollar world-wide industry because guys are driven by their base instincts. Are there a few who aren't? Probably, but they are statistically insignificant in determining as to whether men are generally
motivated by sexual impulse. It's demographics 101. Empiricism only deals with statistical variations in real life.

And of course the inherent difficulty you'll have in proving your theory is that the burden of proof is on you. The very reason this and BBSs like it exist is because men observe the behaviors of women and the majority of what is observed is counter to your argument. What does "MANY" women mean? It's rather ambiguous without any definition of who you're talking about. Does MANY women include only anglo-saxon caucasian women from the United States. Does MANY women state anything about socio-economic conditions or education level? Does MANY women take Asian cultures into account? Or perhaps MANY women in Latin cultures are being left excluded? Now who is dealing with sweeping generalizations? At the very least myself and others on this thread have made attempts to qualify our observations and theories.
 

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Originally posted by Rollo Tomassi
AMF: Opinion is not the same as a statment of fact. You can argue with me as to why you think purple is the best color in the rainbow and have a lot of good reasons to back this up, but you're not going to convince me that the sky is purple.

Actually sterotypes are so convenient because they reliably predict behavior. Do they predict this behavior unerringly? Of course not, but the average results become so predictable that you can base thesis on it. Just ask anyone in marketing or advertising if they base their business decisions on sterotypes. Pornography is a multi-trillion dollar world-wide industry because guys are driven by their base instincts. Are there a few who aren't? Probably, but they are statistically insignificant in determining as to whether men are generally
motivated by sexual impulse. It's demographics 101. Empiricism only deals with statistical variations in real life.

And of course the inherent difficulty you'll have in proving your theory is that the burden of proof is on you. The very reason this and BBSs like it exist is because men observe the behaviors of women and the majority of what is observed is counter to your argument. What does "MANY" women mean? It's rather ambiguous without any definition of who you're talking about. Does MANY women include only anglo-saxon caucasian women from the United States. Does MANY women state anything about socio-economic conditions or education level? Does MANY women take Asian cultures into account? Or perhaps MANY women in Latin cultures are being left excluded? Now who is dealing with sweeping generalizations? At the very least myself and others on this thread have made attempts to qualify our observations and theories.
don't forget that the insurance industry uses sterotypes and generalizations legally. They base their entire business on it.
They take risks that are based on generalizations and sterotypes and they don't do it because it is convenient.

so to say that generalizations are useless is just plain stupid.
 

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not sure if this is a dead thread or not, but after reading the first few pages, I have to agree on what's been said.

after reading this, I kinda noticed something in a differance between my grandparents and my parents that really illustrates this. My grandparents seem to be very into the specefic gender roles, my grandfather is a farmer, goes out and works all day while my grandmother stays home and cooks, cleans, raises the kids, etc. ( well she used to raise the kids, now they are all grown up. I could just see this in the way things worked when they were taking care of us for a week). My grandmother took care of all the housework, and she was the one that helped my sisters get ready for bed, do their homework, etc. She never had any complaints or anything about any of this.
My parents are slightly differant though in my opinion. Although this may not be femenism at work, even though my mom does do all the cooking, or most of it anyway, we still have to clean it up, as well as other things. Now that I think about it, I think this was just part of how my mom was raised, although it's not a major thing. Alot of the stuff is similar with the grandparents, there just seems like a few things are differant, slightly less gender specific. Although my dad is still the one with the power, kind of like that M guy who wrote all the feminism articles said, the man has power while the woman is loved. they complete each other. A week or so ago, my mom had made something to eat, and my dad was jokingly saying that he wanted it, she told him he could have it if he really wanted it. She also refers me to him almost anytime I'm asking permission to something.

Although this doesn't do a very good job showing the changes over time due to femenism, I think it is an ok example. To bad I couldn't write more about my parents, couldn't think of more differances. It just seems like their roles are slightly more obscured, and less defined.
 
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To answer your question "Joe who hates homos" - men are losing interest in (hors) (not women) because they are no longer in sync with their feminine nature - women have become masculine hors and thus no longer complement our nature as men!! Women have become sperm holes to be inseminated (spelling?? - to be filled - injected) with sperm!!
 

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Do we want girls that are just like guys inside?

ewwwwwww!

What the feminists haven't worked out yet is that this is genuinely a turn-off for guys.

Girls are different for a reason, so that if you close your eyes you can still tell you're dealing with a female lol

If both sexes are the same, what's to be attracted by?
 

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Feminists are usually lesbians anyhow...so by making women unattractive to men they figure the poor women will have nowhere else to turn but to the butchy feminists.

Unfortunately, most women are too easily stirred up with the fear tactics fembots use to realize they are being manipulated. Dummies...
 

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Originally posted by Wyldfire
Feminists are usually lesbians anyhow...so by making women unattractive to men they figure the poor women will have nowhere else to turn but to the butchy feminists.

Unfortunately, most women are too easily stirred up with the fear tactics fembots use to realize they are being manipulated. Dummies...
Yeah that's occurred to me too.
 

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Originally posted by PuertoRican_Lover
To answer your question "Joe who hates homos" - men are losing interest in (hors) (not women) because they are no longer in sync with their feminine nature - women have become masculine hors and thus no longer complement our nature as men!! Women have become sperm holes to be inseminated (spelling?? - to be filled - injected) with sperm!!
You are absolutely right. The Godly natural balance of men (masculine) and female (feminine) is being destroyed by the media and educational institutions. Now we have females becoming more masculine and males becoming feminine.
 
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Let me clarify your statement DJ JOE, it is the "people" behind the media and the institutions that promote promiscuity and sexual corruption. Media and institutions are inanimate objects wuth no decision making powers!!!

People are behind this agenda to corrupt the earth "through" mass media and institutions --- these are only vehicles to communicate their message and are without power - the power to corrupt is derived by humans!! And the ,main participant in this rampant corruption is not the "media" rather it is the "PARENTS"!!! Thank the baby boomer generation of America for leading the charge to our destruction!!!!

The "baby boom" generation are those born between 1946 - 1962 (64?) - in these years the birth rate was always higher than the previous year then it started to drop. So those who are 40 years and older -- yes my generation!!!!

This is why I know what I'm talking about - I breathe and lived this corruption of our natures as men and women all of my life - I saw it with my own eyes and lived amongst the stench for all of my years since childhood!!!
 

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Originally posted by Joe The Homophobe
You are absolutely right. The Godly natural balance of men (masculine) and female (feminine) is being destroyed by the media and educational institutions. Now we have females becoming more masculine and males becoming feminine.
Yep, the matrix is all screwed up. This is where to come for tech support :D
 
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As PuertoRican_Lover dude said - men have lost interest in hors not women - a feminine woman is held in extremely high regard today but good luck finding one - they don't exist!!!!!

say "No" to hos!!!!!!
 
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