Why men are losing interest in women

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Originally posted by MrHarris
I like your screen name Joe. It takes a lot of guts to stand up and be counted as one who will not bow to the flow of society.
You know what, I didn't notice his screen name until you pointed it out. F*ckin hell I'm laughing my ass off, that's the best username on here! :D :D :D :D :D
 

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A-UNIT: My take on feminism after going through the university system is very practical. I can see what's going on and I can counter a lot of it with basic rationale, but what I can't do is get guy's heads out of their own assses about this doctrine. One of the reasons sites like this exist is because there are far too many boys brought up in single mother or indoctrinated male households as a direct result of this agenda. It never ceased to amaze me the number of guys who in any other situation are very masculine, but cling tooth & nail to the doctrine and their AFCness as a result. It would be different if it were a group of women promoting an agenda, but it's tenents are pervasively held up not only by guys themselves, but women who wouldn't necessarily call themselves feminists or even be associated with it. Rather, these 'common understandings' filter into the mainstream and people internalize, if not the whole of it, fragments or agreeances in principle without ever questioning them.

For example, if I were to bluntly ask women (and men) in my church if they were feminists or if they agreed with feminism they'd emphatically say no. But, if I questioned them about equally sharing traditional gender duties or how the women expected to be treated or asked the men the best ways to treat women, their responses would be in exact accordance to feminist theory. All this illustrates that even when it's denied in name, certain practices and behaviors have been modified by this doctrine.

Modern feminism is motivated by restitution, not equality. If feminism were about equality, there'd be women marching on washington DC demanding that not another male of the age of 18 be drafted into the army until 2 million women had died in combat after their own mandatory conscription. No feminist I've ever argued with could ever come back to this debate. Argue equal pay till you're blue in the face, but argue equal risk of death and they suddenly have nothing to say.
 

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The other sick part of feminism is how it has been hijacked by the left. One other curiosity I have about women's rights groups is why don't they protest the way women are being treated in other countries, like say, Iran? Iran is one of the worst offenders, yet the fem movements in North America remain curiously quiet......

....kinda reeks don't it? Hmmmm, anyone get the idea that there is a definite agenda at play here and it ain't exactly kosher?
 

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Originally posted by ShortTimer
Then how do you explain Ancient Greece (during Plato's time) when it was NORMAL and EXPECTED for an older man to take a young boy as his lover? Hell, the dialogue of Plato (Symposium) that talks about this is one of the first sources from antiquity that describes romantic love as we understand it today. Except of course they were talking about guy on guy.

If only 1% is naturally gay then why did a society do it on such a large scale? Unless of course human beings are more open to bi-sexual tendancies then you would like to admit.

Why do people always think that greek culture was full of homos? There is NO evidence for it. Plato also talked about atlantis did he not? There is no evidence for that either.
 

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Originally posted by Don Juanabbe
Not to be rude but:

BULL****, BULL****, BULL****, BULL****, BULL****, BULL****, BULL****, BULL****

BULL****
BULL****
BULL****
BULL****

That is the gay rights movement and the mainstream media feeding that lie.

The reality is more like 1%.
I agree with this 1% is more accurate. The Left promote it to be 10% so they can establish themselves as a significant minority.
 

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Re: Re:

Originally posted by A-Unit

For those guys who've been in and out of relationships, how many of the failed ones were from women who were seemingly possessed by Feminism, had a bad family background, or were super power hungry?

A-Unit
My last relationship failed for this very reason. She had a need to fight for power an she tried to do it in a manipulative way.

I would go to her house massage her back and then lick her pu-ssy all the time. She fought for power by failing to reciprocate. Needless to say I told her off and end it. Dating a feminist is like dating a robot. You won't get any affection from a feminist.
 

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Originally posted by 00Kevin
Why do people always think that greek culture was full of homos? There is NO evidence for it. Plato also talked about atlantis did he not? There is no evidence for that either.
Well let's see: all respected scholarly historical authroities seem to think it. In fact the Ancients Greeks PAINTED IT ON THEIR ****ING VASES.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty

http://www.truthtree.com/pederasty.shtml

http://www.livius.org/a/1/greece/lovers3.jpg

http://www.livius.org/a/1/greece/lovers2.jpg

http://www.livius.org/a/1/greece/lovers.jpg

Go! Be educated!
 

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Originally posted by ShortTimer
Well let's see: all respected scholarly historical authroities seem to think it. In fact the Ancients Greeks PAINTED IT ON THEIR ****ING VASES.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty

http://www.truthtree.com/pederasty.shtml

http://www.livius.org/a/1/greece/lovers3.jpg

http://www.livius.org/a/1/greece/lovers2.jpg

http://www.livius.org/a/1/greece/lovers.jpg

Go! Be educated!
ok and now, how do you draw the conclusion that it was accepted? If in 2000 years from now people find a bunch of child porn from American culture. Should they draw the conclusion that it was accepted? Wher eis evidence that it was accepted?
 

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Absolutely.

Funny, the girl I was talking to last night about this has a new bf named Kevin. She too was a power hungry gal. Refuted much of what I stated and said...


"i don't want to be thrown back into the kitchen. i don't want to be enslaved."


It's as if refuting feminism is doing just that. It goes to show how few women 'know' what feminism is and how families operate.


The structure is...

Feminism vs. men.


If you don't support it, you want women bare, foot, naked, and prego. Well, honestly, I do. Don't all men?


Some how American society has taught young girls it's better to be a bank manager, some azzhole CEO at Enron's secretary, some accountant, or other JOB to gain validation and value. It's as if:


JOB/Career = value

Mother/No Career = no value

Ask a girl why she's go to college. To get a job. Why do you want a job? To make money. Why do you want money? To buy things and be independent. Why do you want to be independent? DUH...Long pause.

It's called a VALUES HIERARCHY. If you follow it to its end, you realize most people have mishapen values or none at all. Most women just GO TO COLLEGE OR GET A JOB because it's WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. And like acting all sexual, all flirthy, all slutty, they just do it, too.

When you go to college or any other skill, you're investing in your future, usually thousands of dollars, money that is probably better spent investing in real estate right now. (Facetious). Anyway, for a woman who's going to duck in and out of the career path, it's a valueless proposition.

Firstly because their prime childbirthing years coincide with their prime career building years. That time is when us men build our connections, experience, and fail; same with women.

Secondly, they, at least in my experience, don't invest as much time into improving their skills in a corporate environment. Most girls are reading romance novels, not business books. And that's ok.

But compare this...


What if us men were told:

STAY HOME. COOK CLEAN. FORGET ABOUT SEX. NO SPORTS. DON"T BE A PROVIDER. YOU MEN ARE FOOLS FOR WORKING AND SUPPORTING WOMEN. YOUR FOOLS FOR PROTECTING THE HOUSE, and fighting in wars, and running businesses.

Isn't that what feminism is doing to women and their idenitities now?

See the assumption is made in society that, women should be 100% like men.

They should fvck as much as we do. [enabled by bc].
They should attend college to get an education, yet NOT be the primary provider.
They should work jobs.
They should be allowed to play big boy sports. [Annika Sorenstam]
They should, they should, they should.

Fine open the doors. Let the women who choose to, do so, but DON'T make it some mandatory plan FOR ALL women. AND don't try to change society and have your cake and eat it, too.

If you're going to assume our positions, play our sports, and fight our front lines, then also accept the duty of providing primarily for the homes, taking us out on dates, pursuing us for numbers, pursuing us for sex, and so on. The major double standard is....


Do everything as boys do, but expect everything as if you're still a girl.


Ain't that a crock of shyt?

Ask any mother if a girl should pay for the date, pick the boy, pursue the sex, propose, provide for the home, etc, and she'd say no. THEN, ask her if she should do all the manly things and it's YES. Well, if women ask of us for one right, shouldn't we men ALSO get another right in return? IT IS CALLED EQUALITY, is it not?

Women aren't seeing this until you wake them up. They get slopping drunk at college, ***** themselves around, and THEN wonder why men yell shyt out car windows at them like we're yelling at our guy friends. THEY've taken on those traits and characteristics!

Guys are AFC because they're too weak or to naive to BLOCK all the social programming that exists. You have to tune it down ALL THE WAY. Drown out the noise.


Rollo made an awesome point before regarding being born with homosexuality and being trained to be gay. If males and females are gay from birth, then what are we if we're heterosexual? Confused?


I keep having the picture of the SouthPark episode where Metrosexuality invaded South Park and all men went gay. In yet another episode, the men staged a protest by having 1 massive gay orgy. It's like, society has attempted the same thing. People sell such casual relationships to us, and nobody questions it. I'm not saying, let's all be PRUDE and PURITANS, but honestly, consistent hookups degrades the whole thing for everybody AND degrades it in your own eyes. Orgasms aren't as great to come by now, and now we're evaluating sexual ability, instead of a person. SEXUAL ability is learned, not born. Great sex is a sporadic act. It might happen one night over drinks, or during a movie, or after a family event. It's not something you "nail" right away. Capice?


Women, won't however see themselves as feminists. Why? They're brainwashed to believe that the while make is the devil, because he's oppressed everyother race, he must have oppressed his own flesh and blood as well. If that ain't a conspiracy I don't know what is. And you know it's a conspiracy when you're guilty until proven innocent.

When you understand there are forces out there trying to control you, that WANT YOU TO BE AN AFC for someone else's agenda, I hope it springs you into action so you realize you don't NEED skills, tactics, etc to be the man. YOU ARE THE MAN, groups want to take that away for their own right. By being an AFC, in a sense, you're supporting some person's other agenda, enabling them power at your expense.




Case in point...a girl i'm dating just called me to see why the lights in her won't shut off. Her words...


"i don't have a man in my life, so you're it, come take care of me"

Need we say more?



A-Unit
 

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One thing I noticed is that women take their careers way too seriously. They can't deal with the stress of a career like a man can. They get emotional and give up when the boss gets mad. They try to muli-task everything because they think they can. As a result nothig ever gets done and everyone ends up being confused. All the women fight with each other and nothing is ever structured in a manner that is efficient. Most women don't understand that it is "just business". Everything is a f-cking issue with them. It is a myth that women know how to build relationships. All I've seen is bitterness and emotional excuses.

I've experienced the chaos of too many women in the work place first hand.

Most men realize that a career is just a means to make money. It is just a job. If we had a choice we wouldn't do it. If we had millions of dollars we would say, "f-uck it". Why be a slave to "The Man"?

For a woman a career is a sign of independance. It makes them think that they equal to a man. They don't realize that with their careers they are more of a SLAVE then EVER! What a joke!

In fact, some employers i know abuse this and use it to their advantage. Women will do things in the office and put up with way more crap then a man ever would. " If you want a good paper pusher that will that put up will all kinds of crap hire a woman"

Women are slowly learning about all we crap we had to put up with before. They complain about not being paid enough but won't blame themselves for it. Why promote a complaining ***** or pay her more if she doesn't know how to negotiate for it.?

I hate it when I hear women complain that there are very few women CEOs. Damnit.. if you want to be a CEO then you have to do what it takes. You start your own business and you do it your way! you don't sit on your ass and complain that you are not a CEO. You f-cuken execute your goal!

The reason women are not getting anyplace in the work force is because it is dirty backstabing world where the only thing that matters is money. Women seem to think that it is a fair ideal place where they can make a difference! what a f-cken joke. They couldn't be more wrong!

Feminisim creates a woman who is f-ucked and used, depressed, a slave to her job, divorced or unmarried, few or no children, and finally unloved by real men who don't find them attractive.

well... now they have the worst of both worlds. Enjoy.


Women I know are focused on their careers and most men are focused on how to get out of their dumb careers and become financially independant.

It won't be long until robots and women will be slaving in our companies while we relax with our hoes drinking fine wine.
 

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Originally posted by 00Kevin
ok and now, how do you draw the conclusion that it was accepted? If in 2000 years from now people find a bunch of child porn from American culture. Should they draw the conclusion that it was accepted? Wher eis evidence that it was accepted?
Dood, what the **** is wrong with you? This isn't up for question: it's a historical ****ing fact that they did it. Did you even read the links I sent you?

You can go on believing in a Flat Earth, but everyone else knows it's round.
 

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Re: Re:

Originally posted by A-Unit

Do everything as boys do, but expect everything as if you're still a girl.
I think that hit the nail on the head.

Ask one of these females to go outside and paint the house while you go do some shopping, and watch as they have a hissy fit over how they shouldn't have to do that, yet they're happy to preach about being independant.

Same thing with the ones the complain about how some sports have men-only leagues... I've come across some that have the opinion that it should all be equal... that's fine, except for one thing (which completely agrees with the quote at the start): "oh, but they have to go soft on the females". Throw a female on a man's football field and see how long they last.... I bet feminists would be happy to see if being allowed, but as soon as she doesn't get special treatment, "that's not fair". The fact is that the genders ARE different. Men ARE stronger. Men ARE more logical thinkers.

And there is not a thing in the world wrong with a woman staying home and looking after the children and house. Society has somehow made this sound like a bad thing to do. It's something that a woman is able to handle better than a man, it's in their nature, and it doesn't make any woman less of a person for doing that.
 

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Come to Canada and go to any big University, when it comes to the Social Sciences coarses, women and their feminism idealogy have taken over and are teaching that philosphy to students. Thousands of students are being brainwashed every day to accept feminism idealogy and most of that are taught by bitter divorce women in their 50's or hard core lesbians.

You think colleges and universities have freedom of speech and the ability to express yourself. I found out the hard way that if your view is different then the lesbian/feminist T.A marking your paper, you are going to get a bad grade.

Thinking back at my years in university I remember budding heads with a few of them only to lose in the end of the road.

Case 1: I had a feminist lesbian T.A in a social science coarse where she argued that there is no equality in the workforce where women are capable of doing the same job as a man. She gave the example of the low representation of women in becoming a firefighter. I had to interrapt her and tell her that when you become a firefighter I don't believe it should be about equality or equal represenation but about hiring the "best of the best". Majority of firefighter are over 5'10 and weigh close or over 200lbs. They need to be physically strong and in shape to rescue and carry people out of burning buildings on ladders. There aren't too many women that fit that bill!! Majority of women are not build this way and if they are then they should compete for the job like everyone else. Not too many women can jump to a burning building on top of a 30 ft ladder and grab a 200+ lbs man presumaly unconscious and carry him down to saftey.

After I said all that she just turn away and said " ok....." anybody else have another opinion??!and when everyone else stayed silent she continued her rambeling without even challanging me.

Case 2: In sociology class a female T.A was explaining how society has different forms of sub cultures which are not mainstream. She started going into details about the process of some men who dress up like women and live half their life like that. Me and 2 other males in the class started to burst in laughter. The angry T.A stopped the class and demanded to know what was sooo funny??!!!! and I told her I am sorry but when a man wears a dress and makeup and try to pose as a woman, its pretty funny. In the end of it all I did not get a good mark in that class.

When it comes to Social Science coarses in College/University you are better off finding a male proffessor because he would most likely stay on topic and would not try to push a feminist idealogy down your throat.
 

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Oh no.... I just saw an ad on TV about a news story "Who spends more time with their children? Stay at home mothers or working mothers? The surprise new study"...... I can just hope that by "surprise" it means they're not actually going to come up with some crap about working mothers being more available for their children.... bull****.
 

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Originally posted by DJDamage
Come to Canada and go to any big University, when it comes to the Social Sciences coarses, women and their feminism idealogy have taken over and are teaching that philosphy to students. Thousands of students are being brainwashed every day to accept feminism idealogy and most of that are taught by bitter divorce women in their 50's or hard core lesbians.
It has been mentioned before in this thread how the feminists have taken over the schools. I personally have suffered this brainwashing in college along with others in this thread. Interesting thing that you mention Canada as taken over, Henry Makow (author of the article of this thread, why men are losing interest in women) was a university teacher in Canada, and they fired him for trying to unbrainwash women (in other words he went against the stablishment and said the opposite of what the feminists hold dear). It takes guts to stand up to the stablishment, whether it be your radical minded teachers bent on brainwashing their students (and boy are there a lot of them these days), to your fellow students who if you disagree with them are like rabid wolves, you are wrong they are right there is no middle ground for them.
 

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Originally posted by 00Kevin
Why do people always think that greek culture was full of homos? There is NO evidence for it. Plato also talked about atlantis did he not? There is no evidence for that either.
The love between a man and a boy was the highest form of love in the Ancient Greek Culture. Romans despised homos. And used it as one of their resons to hate the Greeks.

I had Latin for a couple of years in senior high school.
 

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I saw a news story that a thought was aweful. It was about a little girl (about... 11-12 years old) that wrote a children's book about 2 kids that were friends, one had two mothers and one had two daddies. Guess the sexual orientation of the parents..... lesbians! of course. The poor kid is being asked questions about it, and she had no idea, but my god did the lesbian parents take the opportunity to describe it as normal and that kids should be exposed to this type of thing. It sounds like all this brainwashing stuff. They are kids! Whether they be lesbian feminists or not, don't use children to push your agenda and expose them to this.


End rant....
 

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Originally posted by penguin
I saw a news story that a thought was aweful. It was about a little girl (about... 11-12 years old) that wrote a children's book about 2 kids that were friends, one had two mothers and one had two daddies. Guess the sexual orientation of the parents..... lesbians! of course. The poor kid is being asked questions about it, and she had no idea, but my god did the lesbian parents take the opportunity to describe it as normal and that kids should be exposed to this type of thing. It sounds like all this brainwashing stuff. They are kids! Whether they be lesbian feminists or not, don't use children to push your agenda and expose them to this.


End rant....
...And it's funny about all the gays complaining that the stigma associated with gays adopting children...as if it is unjustified...IT IS justified in every way. Just like this story shows. Children ARE influenced by the sexual orientation of the parents and use their parents as models of what is normal. The gay parents teach their children homosexual is a normal way of life directly or indirectly. It is not right. Let the fags get together, not reproduce, not adopt children and die out. Good riddance.
 

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I still love women!

Leave it to a guy who calls himself a "homophobe" to start a thread like this. :rolleyes:

BTW, most people who are afraid of homosexuals have a little homo inside of them.
 

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Re: I still love women!

Originally posted by Don Ronny
Leave it to a guy who calls himself a "homophobe" to start a thread like this. :rolleyes:

BTW, most people who are afraid of homosexuals have a little homo inside of them.
That's a common misconception. Generally it's disgust at the idea of being sexual with another of the same gender.
I've nothing against homosexuals myself (I think they should have just as much right to live happily as anyone), but I do feel that a certain disgust is perfectly natural, just as homosexuals finding the idea of being hetero repulsive is natural for them.

What I object to is the anti-masculine agenda (stemming more from feminism than homosexuality) which seems to be present in our society.
I've grown up feeling ashamed of my masculinity and even believing that women were superior to men. This has cost me in my life in ways I'm still finding out about and I'm here to reclaim my heritage as it were.
There seems to be a drive to inject feminine traits into men and masculine traits into women and in my view this is painful, unnecesary and frankly bad for gender relations in the future.
 
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