Why are men shamed for using escorts/hookers? Isnt that the ultimate dread if a guy has used them?

[HaleyBaron]

Like how we are born to not kill our own family at least at the beginning, we are born with an inherit knowing that there is shame with paying for sex or for a woman at that. It goes deeper than logic and is ingrained in us. I am pretty sure it is evolutionary, too.

 

[jaymbrs]

As funny as this sounds, I feel a sense of accomplishment being 36 and not resorting to paying for sex.

 

[Bokanovsky]

I agree with this to some extent.

My region has legal prostitution. Around 100-200 bucks a pop. If you are on a budget you can go further east and feck women for 30 bucks a pop. Mind you, these are mostly HOT (hb6-hb8)east European and Latin women. These are called " walking houses".

There are two types of guys, or maybe three; 1 .the guy who doesn't go. 2.The guy who does nothing but this 3. The guy in the middle.

Most men I know are 3. Social conditioning, shame and guilt , money..all reasons why men are reluctant to visit prostitutes. Going to the walking house can be a fun " guys night out" similar like going to the stripclub with some friends.

My experience. I am also type 3. I visited like 10 prostitutes in my life with various experiences. I mostly went after break ups and during dry spells. I am a fit big dude so most of the time the girls responded positive to my presence, although there is always a certain amount of acting going on.

It's a gamble whether the woman will be in to you, and you will only know AFTER you payed ..the best experience will happen when you pick one specific prostitute you can vibe with and become a regular , or when you pay more for the gfe (girl friend experience).

After some time I personally felt like ther is no win in it for me.

-the sex is subpar. If you know what passionate sex is like ,with a woman drooling over you , you know a hooker can't replicate that.

- I felt empty afterwards. There is still a sense of shame to it. It's not something you talk about during Christmas dinner. Although I have to admit that sometimes during dryspells I had some nice women it was a great relief. But still these are "not my proudest notches".

-during a dryspell it's a bandaid on a shot wound. Not only that, you'll *** way too quick . Even when you pay for a hour, after busting 2 nuts she'll tell you it's over. Argument with a hooker?= red button and some gorilla will kick you out. (This can happen at anytime by the way. Even when you payed and didn't had sex she can kick you out).

- to add to the last point, so you pay a 100 bucks to feck 10-15 minutes. How often can you do that? 3 times a week? 1 time a month?

- it's bad for my own conscious. At some point I was like feck it I might as well feck a hbsub5 and save money. It lowers my self esteem somehow. When I am at my best and got some women left right a hooker wouldn't even be on my mind, so that says it all right . There is no game involved, aside from you being your best, nice clothes, ripped, smelling good ect.

- its imo a depressing thing. Both you and the woman are "pathetic ". That evens it out a little. She is a ho3 and you are a incel. Nice to meet ya. Most of these women are broken. Let's just say fecking a hot ,smart ,clean woman is not the same as fecking a hooker.

-its actually quite dangerous and risky .There is always the chance the condom slips. You can get tuberculosis. Skin diseases and lice are a option. If you meet them at their or your own home you can get scammed or robbed real easy.

I can go on and on. This is all from the male pov obviously. Oh , and you DON'T necessarily want the hottest girl in the room. The hotter ones are stuck up. Aim a little lower and you might at least get a freak. Personally I haven't done this in years even though the option is always available.

Its kinda like most recreational "stuff ". Take too much of it and it will have consequences.

Out of curiosity, what country is this?

 

[corrector]

As funny as this sounds, I feel a sense of accomplishment being 36 and not resorting to paying for sex.

Same gere. I paid for it at 38.

 

[The Duke]

So let's say you were just hooking up with random online girls. You went out on dates and never paid the bar/food bill. Do you think you would still get sehx? I think your chances are significantly reduced. So wouldnt that indicate you pay for sehx in some fashion, perhaps just indirectly?

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

-the sex is subpar. If you know what passionate sex is like ,with a woman drooling over you , you know a hooker can't replicate that.

- I felt empty afterwards. There is still a sense of shame to it. It's not something you talk about during Christmas dinner. Although I have to admit that sometimes during dryspells I had some nice women it was a great relief. But still these are "not my proudest notches".

-during a dryspell it's a bandaid on a shot wound. Not only that, you'll *** way too quick . Even when you pay for a hour, after busting 2 nuts she'll tell you it's over. Argument with a hooker?= red button and some gorilla will kick you out. (This can happen at anytime by the way. Even when you payed and didn't had sex she can kick you out).

- to add to the last point, so you pay a 100 bucks to feck 10-15 minutes. How often can you do that? 3 times a week? 1 time a month?

This is why I think it's just an expensive form to masturbate. Sex with a hooker is nowhere compatible to sex with a girl with genuine interest in you.

 

[pipeman84]

- I felt empty afterwards. There is still a sense of shame to it. It's not something you talk about during Christmas dinner. Although I have to admit that sometimes during dryspells I had some nice women it was a great relief. But still these are "not my proudest notches".

But don't you also feel empty after you fvcked a girl who you know she has already been doggy fvcked by who knows how many other dudes? And that she had their c0cks in her mouth? And whatever she says during sex and after, she's said it to others?

 

[bat soup]

Thinking about it. It makes sense in a way that women will shame them since it removes their only power over men. Once men know the price of pvssy most women will be afraid. Therefore they shame men from using them etc.
If a woman knows a guy has used them, she is in constant dread. Thinking if she withholds sex he can just buy sex.

This is exactly why women oppose it. They want men to spend money on them in the hope of getting sex. Men won't do that if they can simply go direct.

 

[Gamisch]

But don't you also feel empty after you fvcked a girl who you know she has already been doggy fvcked by who knows how many other dudes? And that she had their c0cks in her mouth? And whatever she says during sex and after, she's said it to others?

No absolutely not.

There are like 4 billion women on this planet. Most wont like you, but when you do have mutual attraction , it can be pure and wild passion. Her past doesn't matter at that moment.

I would even say that you could meet a prostitute in a club or bar, not knowing she is one. The build up of the chase and the mutual attraction will make it a completely different experience than paying her to go through the motions.

But this is different for each man. I might feel a similar emptiness after fecking a woman below my SMV.

This is exactly why women oppose it. They want men to spend money on them in the hope of getting sex. Men won't do that if they can simply go direct.

In my post I mentioned it was from the male pov. Be careful what you wish for...

When prostitution becomes legal men might optionally have more sexual abundance, but on the other side of the spectrum you'll see women will use it as a feasible option when money is low. And "when money is low" is dependent upon ones personal lifestyle, taste ect. A woman that now works 2 jobs as a waitress or a cleaner would say feck this shyte, I can sell my v-g for a couple of months, , take a trip to Mexico and be good for the rest of the year.

Kinda like what happened with only fans, but in real life. In this era women will embrace it and they'll all think they are "high class prostitutes ".

 

[corrector]

But don't you also feel empty after you fvcked a girl who you know she has already been doggy fvcked by who knows how many other dudes? And that she had their c0cks in her mouth? And whatever she says during sex and after, she's said it to others?

There are way worst things then just empty.

 

[pipeman84]

No absolutely not.

There are like 4 billion women on this planet. Most wont like you, but when you do have mutual attraction , it can be pure and wild passion. Her past doesn't matter at that moment.

I would even say that you could meet a prostitute in a club or bar, not knowing she is one. The build up of the chase and the mutual attraction will make it a completely different experience than paying her to go through the motions.

That's Olympic level mental gymnastics you're doing there man. Nice if it works for you, I personally can't kid myself like that.

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

Thinking about it. It makes sense in a way that women will shame them since it removes their only power over men. Once men know the price of pvssy most women will be afraid. Therefore they shame men from using them etc.
If a woman knows a guy has used them, she is in constant dread. Thinking if she withholds sex he can just buy sex.

I dont think it's simply a matter of price in terms of money, the issue is the price of pvssy in terms of many other things that are more expensive than money as mental health, dignity, time, effort and fairness.

Then we have the "quality" side...a man in his 50s in an average shape with 200 euros can bang for 1 hour a early 20s hottie with a 100% chance of getting laid, no question asked, no performances needed or further demands.

Is it really better for that guy to wine and dine an average woman in her mid to late 40s, walks on egg shells, put some work in his performance and self promotion for a chance to get a "prize" out of it?
Does he really get validation or emotional intimacy from the process?

That's the main issue.

Ps. I would appreciate low IQ users and posters to avoid saying that an average middle aged men can run game on a young hottie and succeed...the disney movies finished dec 25th.

 

[patb]

There are way worst things then just empty.

I’ve definitely gotten that feeling from casual sex (non paid). I don’t think a “meaningful” relationship is really in the cards, so those are the breaks.

 

[Gamisch]

That's Olympic level mental gymnastics you're doing there man. Nice if it works for you, I personally can't kid myself like that.

Just spitting facts. I met women at festivals for example, where I had no clue of her past or even her current situation at that time When the spark is there all that matters is satisfaction from both sides. When we mentally also click why the hell would I care about other D she sucked or not?

Is this about the chase for virgings again? Believe me , your brain has the capacity to get over a woman's past and enjoy her for who she is.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Ps. I would appreciate low IQ users and posters to avoid saying that an average middle aged men can run game on a young hottie and succeed...the disney movies finished dec 25th.

If these low IQ users are getting young p*ssy at their age, then that says a lot about your own iq if you can't manage the same.

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

If these low IQ users are getting young p*ssy at their age, then that says a lot about your own iq if you can't manage the same.

If you believe that random users do even half of what they brag here, feel free to send me a PM cause I have a big building in Rome for you to buy!!!

 

[corrector]

Just spitting facts. I met women at festivals for example, where I had no clue of her past or even her current situation at that time When the spark is there all that matters is satisfaction from both sides. When we mentally also click why the hell would I care about other D she sucked or not?

Is this about the chase for virgings again? Believe me , your brain has the capacity to get over a woman's past and enjoy her for who she is.

That is not spiritually honest.

 

[HaleyBaron]

If you believe that random users do even half of what they brag here, feel free to send me a PM cause I have a big building in Rome for you to buy!!!

I don't care what random users do here. I'm going by reality of what I've seen in the real world. Older men getting young women can and does happen. I'm also an example, and I know a few others who get 18 and a bit older than that women despite our rising ages. All I hear is cope.

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

I don't care what random users do here. I'm going by reality of what I've seen in the real world. Older men getting young women can and does happen. I'm also an example, and I know a few others who get 18 and a bit older than that women despite our rising ages. All I hear is cope.

All you have to do is put back the windows, trust me it's a great deal for such small amount of cash!!!

 

[The Duke]

I've got a great friend who bangs hot hookers on a regular basis. He gave up on dating years ago.

Why? Because it allowed him to focus 110% on his business. He doesn't answer to any one. He doesn't have a woman nagging at him. He doesn't have to worry about her birthday, anniversary, or why she is mad at him.

This guy is rich, tall, good looking, alpha like, smart, etc. He simply has no tolerance for bullschitt and drama, and you can't escape those things unless you pay for it directly.

Not a dahmn thing wrong with that either.

As a man ages, his patience for a woman's theatrics diminishes. You see things more clearly.

You guys that think your girl is with you just because she thinks the world of you are on an ego trip. All men are providers it just varies by degree and type. You are paying in some form.