Why are men shamed for using escorts/hookers? Isnt that the ultimate dread if a guy has used them?

[2Rocky]

No woman under 50 needs a male escort. Women under 50 can have sex on demand.

you are missing the point.... when Charlie Sheen was being sentenced for using a prostitute, the judge asked him why a man like him would have to pay for sex. And Sheen reportedly replied: “I don’t pay them for sex. I pay them to leave.”

 

[YourGreatestFear]

You pay for it no matter what, directly or indirectly. Dates, gas, clothing for dates, time which is arguably more valuable than money. What’s the difference? If you are in a drought, why not pay for it? Because of the stigma? It’s only societal programming that makes you feel it’s so “taboo” to just fork over some cash to bust a nut. Like it or not young man, prostitution is the oldest profession known to mankind and some of the most alpha men in the world partake in it. Don’t believe me? Look at Jeffrey Epstein’s flight logs.
Picture Vladimir Putin cold approaching a b*tch in Walmart. Is that likely? Or more likely he has a mistress who he pays well to make him c*m and be quiet.

As far as your fake alpha claim, if you can get within two hours of driving from Maryland I’ll gladly meet you in person, go for a drink and then you can judge if I’m “alpha” or not based on something besides Internet forum posts.

There's a big difference between f*cking a hot woman who wants you and begs you to f*ck her silly and sex with a woman who just tolerates you because you've paid her for it. Also, I think this alpha bullsh*t should stop, people don't understand the meaning of this word. Our primal instincts don't consider Putin, Bill Gates, or Elon Musk alpha, the same goes for women. Women don't want Gats and Musk, this is exactly why rich influential men pay for sex. And also the illegality of sleeping with 14-16-year-olds. For a typical woman, a cool guy with a well-proportioned body covered in tattoos is more desirable than Musk or Putin. Our ancestors 100k years ago couldn't become a president or have a personal jet.

The best sex is with a woman who wants you and who cums over and over again from being f*cked or eaten out. Passionate emotional sex is pretty much impossible with a hooker, and many of them even lose the ability to get excited from their clients at some point and use lubricants, instead. It's waaaay more psychologically pleasing to approach a random girl on the street and then f*ck her silly a couple of hours later, knowing that you are the best man she ever was with in her life.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Thinking about it. It makes sense in a way that women will shame them since it removes their only power over men. Once men know the price of pvssy most women will be afraid. Therefore they shame men from using them etc.
If a woman knows a guy has used them, she is in constant dread. Thinking if she withholds sex he can just buy sex.

For a variety of reasons, some more legitimate than others, society has long defined prostitution as something shameful. It is going to be difficult to shake off that reputation. Even in parts of the world where views on prostition are more liberal (i.e Europe), there is still a major stigma associated with it. Basically, in Europe they see it as an evil that will never go away and therefore should be regulated rather than banned, not as something that is socially acceptable.

The fact that many prostitutes and their clients fit traditional stereotypes (i.e. women being drug addicts or sex-trafficked slaves and johns being losers married to unattractive wives) certainly does not help things. In an idea world, visiting a prostitute would be no big deal and no different than getting a massage or a haircut. But I doubt that would ever happen.

 

[zinc4]

There's a big difference between f*cking a hot woman who wants you and begs you to f*ck her silly and sex with a woman who just tolerates you because you've paid her for it. Also, I think this alpha bullsh*t should stop, people don't understand the meaning of this word. Our primal instincts don't consider Putin, Bill Gates, or Elon Musk alpha, the same goes for women. Women don't want Gats and Musk, this is exactly why rich influential men pay for sex. And also the illegality of sleeping with 14-16-year-olds. For a typical woman, a cool guy with a well-proportioned body covered in tattoos is more desirable than Musk or Putin. Our ancestors 100k years ago couldn't become a president or have a personal jet.

The best sex is with a woman who wants you and who cums over and over again from being f*cked or eaten out. Passionate emotional sex is pretty much impossible with a hooker, and many of them even lose the ability to get excited from their clients at some point and use lubricants, instead. It's waaaay more psychologically pleasing to approach a random girl on the street and then f*ck her silly a couple of hours later, knowing that you are the best man she ever was with in her life.

Sounds like you place a little too much emoasis on the women's feelings and how much she us into you. I could care less about any of that as long as she gives me what i want in good fashion. Most women are experts at faking stuff anyways. Could care less what they think of me.

I have had plenty of great experiences with pris. Sometimes its nice to just not waste time and order it like fast food. The rush of hooking up with a non pro at a bar or club is nice but the older you get its not worth the time effort and drinking that is involved. I still do it though. But if if my plates have ran dry or im just tired of them, i might just prefer a simple quite night with some new company ill get a pro.

Hookers can't fulfill you manly desire for accomplishing, conquering, overcoming obstacles. What's the honor or pride for ****ing a escort? It's the same as comparing someone who was born in a rich family, and another guy that was a homeless ass and became a millionaire. The value of the man comes from his accomplishments - which means how many walls he can breaks, how many goals he reached, how much he did for himself.

***** has no value. It's totally up to how much you want it and how far you're willing to go to get it. Not every man has the preparation and the will to keep on the hard path to get the best (and that's what most people get wrong, it's not about doing more for her to like you, but about doing more for YOURSELF so you'll become even more magnetic and people will naturally come to you).

Success always depend on previous preparation. If men become manly enough to focus on their way and give their gift to their world and their women, when they know how to act masculine to keep her in her feminine (because women adapt to their men, not the other way around), when they know their value and base their life on fulfilling his own goals, but not forgetting to be his woman's stronghold at the same time, always centered, someone she and and anyone else can trust.

This would be an ideal world, but sadly what we see is men acting most time weak (not only because of them, but because they've been taught to act this way), women stepping over them, using sex as a currency to get what she wants, as a reward for his "good boy" behaviour. The weak behaviour of men gives space for women to get a bitchy behaviour.

If you're a man of valor, she'll naturally want to be yours, and you'll naturally want to penetrate her (if you feel the same for her). Sex is not a currency.

This line of thinking is disney and blue pilled asf.

Stop placing ***** on a pedestal alright. If you consider slaying women as a great achievement then you have already lost. Ironically, history's greatest conquerors have a well documented past of using pros and having their own concubines even from ancient China to Rome.

In my experience, the only people shaming men from using them tend to be very sexually inexperienced/virgins, SJWs blue pills in general and feminists.

The real value of ***** ain't **** and that's exactly what women dont want you to know.

 

[eli77]

I think if you're a celebrity is a little bit different the blowback is very severe.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Hookers are just an expensive way to masturbate. You get nothing out of it other than the smell of cigarettes on your clothes and paranoia.

 

[corrector]

Hookers are just an expensive way to masturbate. You get nothing out of it other than the smell of cigarettes on your clothes and paranoia.

Elaborate more on paranoia.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Hookers are just an expensive way to masturbate. You get nothing out of it other than the smell of cigarettes on your clothes and paranoia.

Disagree. Sex in my opinion is more about conquest and submission than the mechanical act. Hookers fulfill that portion of the equation.

 

[corrector]

Disagree. Sex in my opinion is more about conquest and submission than the mechanical act. Hookers fulfill that portion of the equation.

How many have you been with?

 

[EyeBRollin]

How many have you been with?

I do not recall.

 

[DonJuanjr]

I do not recall.

C'mon you must have a ball park figure.... A couple, few, half dozen, handful..... Surely you haven't visited dozens upon dozens where you can't come up with a general estimate.....

 

[EyeBRollin]

C'mon you must have a ball park figure.... A couple, few, half dozen, handful..... Surely you haven't visited dozens upon dozens where you can't come up with a general estimate.....

I do not recall. How about you?

 

[DonJuanjr]

I do not recall. How about you?

Never visited a hooker.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Disagree. Sex in my opinion is more about conquest and submission than the mechanical act. Hookers fulfill that portion of the equation.

No they don't. There is nothing conquestable about a woman opening her legs to you showing some money. And the submission is insofar as a transaction of the lowest tier. Hookers is shooting fish in a barrel, and it's not even the good kind of fish. Nature is balance, and men who take the easy way out are not conquesting anything.

 

[HaleyBaron]

He was saying that hookers fulfill the mechanical aspect of the act. Not the conquest part.

He said sex is about conquest and submission. Using "than" means his subject was of those two. That's what I was replying to. Mechanically, I can **** a sex toy and it'll fullfill it too for less money and more long term availability.

 

[EyeBRollin]

No they don't. There is nothing conquestable about a woman opening her legs to you showing some money. And the submission is insofar as a transaction of the lowest tier. Hookers is shooting fish in a barrel, and it's not even the good kind of fish. Nature is balance, and men who take the easy way out are not conquesting anything.

You can read deeper into it if you want.

Bottom line is a guy can pay $500-$1000 and bang an HB8 and have her be 100% submissive to him for an hour, then go on about his life. His right or left hand can’t exactly do that.

 

[DonJuanjr]

He said sex is about conquest and submission. Using "than" means his subject was of those two. That's what I was replying to. Mechanically, I can **** a sex toy and it'll fullfill it too for less money and more long term availability.

Yeah I re-read the post he replied to, and deleted the comment. You quoted it before I deleted it...

 

[HaleyBaron]

You can read deeper into it if you want.

Bottom line is a guy can pay $500-$1000 and bang an HB8 and have her be 100% submissive to him for an hour, then go on about his life. His right or left hand can’t exactly do that.

Not once is she submissive to you, especially with the prospect of it being "only for an hour." There is nothing submissive about a time limit.

 

[DonJuanjr]

Not once is she submissive to you, especially with the prospect of it being "only for an hour." There is nothing submissive about a time limit.

I can see both yours and his points. For the right amount, she'll be submissive in that time frame. Maybe an extra 20 dollars opens the submissive door to something that would be denied. At the same time.... I'd rather have the free submission of a lower value woman than the bought for submission time frame of an escort. The submission is dollar based not desire based for the escort.

 

[corrector]

I do not recall. How about you?

Why cant you call? I have the working names, background, date, time, location, etc... and you cant recall the number? Wow. That does not say much about that.