That’s not confidence he’s building. That’s being able to take an ego hit. Fine, there’s nothing inherently wrong with that. But that sure as hell isn't a skill set he had prior to practicing this non-trial-by-failure method.
But now he almost has the skill of not fearing rejection. Thats a big time skill, he's on his way...he's on his way to becoming more congruent with the way he expresses his interests and intentions.
Rapport and receptive/observant IOI are incredibly important in my style of approach. There is an art to it that I find fascinating and alluring. I find the “dance” between man and woman to be more fulfilling given the different stages of flirtation, qualifying (on both parts), and boundary pushing in varying degrees… All in a single approach.
Yes...i believe that is something good that should occur in interactions. Agreed. But Deep Rapport, in the first meeting, can be overrated...as sometimes you don't have to spend so much time setting something up with the girl. 5 Minutes can be what it takes...can be even less.
Power, in my humble opinion, has nothing to do with it for me. Handling rejection is basic. Being a man is important, but that to me has nothing to do with trying to have power for power’s sake.
Handling rejection is not basic, it takes a good amount of courage to do so. Even, willing to be rejected, takes even more. Ur not trying to have power, u are automatically getting it and we all know power is an aphrodisiac with women. Confidence is power.
If he had a lot of AA and was trying to overcome it by elevating his ego, he could have done it any number of ways. He chose this method and to him it’s satisfactory. For me, it’s not.
QUOTE: You, not him. He doesn't care if it doesn't apply to u, he only cares if it applies to him.
When I first came on this board and read the various things that I did, I didn’t want to destroy my ego, and then build it up again, with zero-result assaults. It made no sense to me. Instead of learning to become a better more skillful fighter, I was just going to learn how to take hits better? No thank you. I know what rejection is like and I know that it’s mostly avoidable if you’re smart, cool, and observant.
You will still get rejected, even if ur smart, cool and observant. Except for maybe eye contact first game...which is good game, but we are talking about cold approaching here, w/o e/c invitations.
Does that mean you don’t take chances? Does that mean you don’t risk a close? Of course not. But certain parameters can and will exist that make an approach a hell of a lot more rewarding.
From what i've heard from him, this IS rewarding to him.
We must have a fundamental misunderstanding of what confidence is because I don't agree. That’s not confidence, it’s just thick skin. Confidence is an inherent belief in your own abilities. Being able to take a punch is not an ability it’s a defense mechanism.
A defense mechanism would be trying to prevent it. He's taking it head on, consciously. Thats confidence. Confidence is taking action even when ur afraid, when having faith in urself. Even the most confident people in the world are sometimes afraid, but they still take action.
Of course I did. But obviously the sexy, attractive, fun, X, Y and Z alpha would have a HELL of a lot more success than greenlake. He hasn’t had a successful anything-close. That’s just not my idea of a good or worthwhile time. It has nothing to do with this direct method being superior. It's a tool that seems based plainly on learning to deal with rejection.
You're too result oriented, if he just wanted to get laid alot faster...he would stuck with indirect, but he just didnt' like it.Don't knock direct till u try it. He's tried indirect already, now he's direct.I've tried indirect and i didn't like it.
This whole last block is you over-simplifying "the game" and your own assumptions.
The game is suppose to be simple....most people overcomplicate it here.
As I've already stated, what you've said is as simple as being able to take a hit. Like being a boxer with no jab, left-hook, uppercut, or right-cross. You're just a solid punching bag.
A boxer must get use to taking punches or else he'll knocked out easily. He doing game that he wants to do, and getting rejected is fine for this point.
Now, I understand that there is value in that, so you can stop being so assertive about it.
I'll be as much assertive as i want to be.
I've understood that in-and-of-itself, being able to take rejection is a good thing. However, that is not seduction. Being able to maneuver conversation and mood skillfully is paramount. Rapport is critical. Keen observation is vastly worth more than just being helpful.
You think he's not working on that? If he was ONLY concerned about taking rejection, he would just say anything. But no, he's concerned about rejection AND getting better while not caring if he gets his interest recprocated just yet. He's getting better...u think he's failing?
No, "the game” does not apply to all cultures evenly. Have you ever been to a Muslim country? Try this direct approach in Saudi Arabia and see what happens. I hate to use hyperbole, but you fail to see the reality of cultural and social influences and their impact.
I never said it applied to them EVENLY, i said it just applied to all cultures
This is laughable and your own fantasizing. I find plenty of women that don't JUST want to be desired.
Women are designed to desire a man, except lesbians. If u think otherwise, ur kidding urself. Women want to be desired by a man and/or men.
That's good enough if they're 17 and just finishing up puberty. Or are used up peep-show mops. But most quality, attractive, and desirable women are going to need a bit more in the form of romance and seduction to get them to go beyond a "Hi you're pretty wanna f***?"
This is just a blocker you have. Even some of the hottest women just want sex and maybe tired of dating. There are wholesome pretenders who say they want all this stuff, but next thing u know...they be one of the kinkiest, freakiest girls u've ever heard of...that will freak u the hell out....who could care less about romance.
PM me when you actually have sex with a girl not paid for by your local truck-stop savings fund.
Believe me, once Greenlake is done...he'll be one of the greatest of sosuave ever. Hell, JWhite proved alot of theory wrong by doing an "Are you single?" Opener. He got what he wanted.
Sexual states, physical attraction, real confidence, a real life, passions, being observant, those are the qualities the women I choose to date look for. Why? Because they're worth more than a subdued ego.
But maybe Greenlake doesn't care for dating right now, but just wants sex. Also, what U may want may not be what GREENLAKE wants.
Your own overzealousness is raw evidence of the fact that you can't level with a different strategy. Are you saying your Direct Method is superior to any other strategy at all times? Because that would be plain wrong.
This is my strategy and I have full faith and full back up for it. I never said it was SUPERIOR to anything else...but i did say I BELIEVE it is better for overall game than most other methods out there. Sometimes indirect can be better in a different situation...for example: If u really did need an opinion on something but so happen that girl u saw was attractive or that you really truly wanted to tease the girl and get her friends to tease her, to be playful.
Being assertive can and will work. Being Direct is just one of various tactics.
But the worst part of all this? Your reliance on it as a catch-all is severely limiting your own potential exploits.
I will have these exploits MY WAY. If i don't want to do it another way, than i don't have to, because i choose it this way. Getting loads and loads of sex is what i don't care about, its getting the great abundance of sex within my choosing is the intention. If i miss more ass, because i choose to stick with direct...so be it...there are a ton more. I don't try to please a chick, cuz its what she wants...i tell my intention with her and if she likes it...NICE! If not, the next young lady. Also, i forgot to mention....direct is a mindset...where ur more straightforward and upfront in ur life, not just women only.