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TIC

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Last night was a good night indeed.

I wore my current fav shirt:

http://www.designbyhumans.com/shop/detail/7306?category=1&page=2

I also drank smrnoff vodca on the way the my buds house to loosen up

Me and 3 other guys drove up to the Michigan campus. There was no game today, but still abunch of people walking around. First, we went to the club at about 10pm. It was empty so we decided to come back a little later when more people arrived. We went back to the same pizza place where one of my friends got a number from the cashier. We ordered, sat and ate and she came over and sat with us. I ended up asking her number, not knowing she was my friend’s plate. She said something like “ask your friend he has it” and it became clear that I shouldn’t have asked.


So the night started off with some embarrassment, but I’m proud of myself for not letting it get in my head. We walked back into the club and waited for girls to show up. After walking on the dance floor for a while. My 3 wingmen were getting rejected left and right—they did not dance with any girls or get any numbers the entire night.


The first girl I danced with was on top of the platform in the middle of the dancefloor! :) It was a hot Asian HB9, the hottest girl in the club. I was just standing there on the ground looking around and she looked down at me and signaled me to come up and dance with her. I did of course, and she grinded the **** out of me for awhile. Eventually her 2 friends got a little jealous and decided to ****block her, but not before I got her number:

TIC: Hey what’s your name?
Asian hb9: blah
TIC: Let me get your number (I held out my phone and let her program herself in. This is how I do it always)
Asian: Alright
TIC: K have a good night

Then I got off stage, walked to the bathroom, came back and talked to the first hb7 blonde I saw. She was dancing with 1 friend. I decided to come up to her with a positive attitude.

TIC: (putting my arm around her and smiling) Hey what’s your name?
HB7 blonde: blah
TIC: Listen lets dance ok
HB7 blonde: ok (smiling)

We danced for a long time, eventually yet again her friend ruined it by c-blocking because she was alone.

HB7 blonde: my friend is alone I have to stop
TIC: ok let me get your number before I go
HB7 Blonde: I have a BF
TIC: I just want to be friends
HB7 blonde: Ok, just friends (programs herself in my phone)

So that was 2 numbs. Next, I walk around and meet up with my wingmen who are having 0 success. Most guys in there are having 0 success, except me apparently. I was dancing with chicks left and right. I talked to them a bit then walked right up to a blonde hb8 and started grinding. Did this for a while. After a while, her friends wanted her to leave me:

HB8: I have to go with them
TIC: Let me get your number
HB8: ok (programs herself in)
TIC: alright enjoy ur night

Theres 3. So my last number was with a brunette hb6 that had a nice nice body. She was talking to her friend while dancing and I was looking at her. She did not have a pleasant look on her face. However, I was so pumped from having such success that I came right over:

TIC: (putting arm around her) Hey listen your adorable I had to come talk to you
HB6: haha thanks
TIC: Whats ur name?
HB6: blah
TIC: I’m TIC. Listen come dance with me. (I pull her away from her friends and lead her to the middle of the dancefloor.)

She starts grinding me real real good and I feel all over her. I danced with her the longest. She let me touch her everywhere except her boobs lol. We held hands while dancing too sometimes. After a while her friend pulled her away. I stopped her, stood in between her and her friend and put my arm around her:

TIC: Listen let me get ur numb before you go
HB6: Ok (programs herself in)
TIC: K you ladies have a good night

I danced with several other girls but nothing came of those dances. All in all, it was a good night. 4 numbers is my second best record

While walking on the street heading back to our car, I said some stupid sh*t to drunks girls walking by lolllllll

TIC: hey babe where are you guys heading
Girls: (walk away)
TIC: Dammit I should have brought my roofies guys (talking to my wingmen)
Girls: omg stay clear of this guy omg

Lol whatever. I hate stuck up *****es so that’s what they get
So we drove home got a chicken sub and that was that. We’ll see if anything comes of these numbers. I doubt it. I know this sounds AFC, but I would just rather have a girlfriend who is loyal. I don’t need to screw abunch of random girls. I’ve been alone for a very long time. Very long. Going out to clubs at night and doing this kind of thing makes me feel like a tool sometimes. But it’s the only way to meet girls that works for me….

My job has been ok so far. I worked an 8-hour shift yesterday and was not tired at all afterwards. I am going to get a very big check, because when I started I missed a pay period so I’m getting 3-weeks worth of pay. I work with a few cute girls, but of course, there are already men in their lives. Even the fat ones are like rockstars, with their phones constantly blowing up. I don’t even think I’m going to try with any of these girls.

There’s a cool guy that works there though, a beta with an excellent personality. He can really carry a conversation, I wish I was like him. He was talking to me about marrying the girl he’s in love with. I told him its not beneficial for men to get married in todays climate. He said he would do a prenuptial, but I told him that those are routinely thrown out. Hope he doesn’t F himself.

Next week……huge Halloween party plus afterparty :)Cannot wait. I might go as a catholic priest or something lol, I haven’t decided. I’m hoping that Rachel (only plate spinning) will meet me there and screw me haha.

Will update soon
 

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So you're gloating over 4 numbers that are guaranteed to flake because you spent all your time on the dance floor and failed to develop any genuine rapport.

Yes, it feels nice to have a warm tight body rub up against you but you want to fvck right? Get these girls off the floor and TALK to them. And win over her friends so they won't c*ckblock you.
 

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Elky said:
Well of course you wont find a quality woman in a club TIC. Try other places other than clubs.
Why do so many guys say this? I've met teachers, nurses, dental hygenists, girls in med school and law school. The girl attention-wh*ring on the dance floor while you leer at her from the wall could be the cardiologist treating you for cardiac arrest in the ER the next morning.

The problem is not so much the women themselves as the environment that turns otherwise normal, decent girls into attention-wh*ring b*tches at clubs.
 

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spinaroonie said:
So you're gloating over 4 numbers that are guaranteed to flake because you spent all your time on the dance floor and failed to develop any genuine rapport.

Yes, it feels nice to have a warm tight body rub up against you but you want to fvck right? Get these girls off the floor and TALK to them. And win over her friends so they won't c*ckblock you.
I went out, had a good time, and got digits. This was my goal and I accomplished it.

And I can't get girls off the floor who refuse to leave their group of friends. Its hard enough to penetrate a 2 or 3 set as it is.

Most numbers are flakes? Thanks for the enlightenment einstein, I've only been saying this in virtually all of my posts in this journal. But its SOMETHING as opposed to NOTHING. I don't expect sh*t from these girls, but I am still going to try nonetheless.

I'm not working with a full deck of cards here- this past summer was my first time even asking for a girls number. In just a few months I've had to make up alot of ground that most guys get by high school . Its all still new to me: clubbing, talking to women, getting numbers, even dancing. I'm not at the point where I can fvck these chicks as I have no place of my own. Getting lays, unfortunately, is not in the foreseeable future. I just have to practice and get better for when my time comes. Thats better than sitting at home and doing nothing like before
 

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spinaroonie said:
Why do so many guys say this? I've met teachers, nurses, dental hygenists, girls in med school and law school. The girl attention-wh*ring on the dance floor while you leer at her from the wall could be the cardiologist treating you for cardiac arrest in the ER the next morning.

The problem is not so much the women themselves as the environment that turns otherwise normal, decent girls into attention-wh*ring b*tches at clubs.
If a girl is so easy to become an attention wh*** just because she steps foot in a club, she is not a quality girl. That's called being a regular, average, sl*t of a girl.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Alright, here's the deal. I was suppose to go to a Halloween Party tonight, but my bud is too tired to go. I can't get anyone to go with me. It really sucks because Kayla is going to be there, but I have no choice but to back out. I can't show up solo, it's just not a good look. She'll certainly be bothered by the fact that I am up there by myself...

So me and some other guys are about to head up to a club. More night-game practice I guess. Gonna go with the green lantern shirt :)

http://www.superherostuff.com//gree...ol-distressed-t-shirt.html?itemCd=tsglsymdist


I'm not really getting anywhere with women, to be honest. No connection whatsoever, no closeness, ya know? Physical, or intimate or anything. I think the word for my condition is loneliness, and its been this way since....as long as I've been alive, actually.

Just gonna try to have fun tonight. I'll update with what happens tomorrow...
 

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:confused:

Alright, so last night was a waste, like my life

We head up to the club, its cold as sh*t, and my stupid friend brought us up there too early. We sit for like an hour and observe who's coming in. Mostly guys, couples in lame costumes. When it was all said and done, none of us could dance or do anything, it was packed with guys and finding girls that wanted to dance was just impossible.

We walked back to the car dejected, and decided against going to a restaurant because we were so tired from being cold and blue-balled.


Maybe I'm a hypocrite. I could get a severely obese girl and not be lonely...I could get some hideous black girl that no one else wants (most of them, srry I'm from the Detroit area). But I refuse to settle because I've struggled for my whole life. Either I get a 6,7,8, or I get nothing. You won't see me with some ugly fat wife when I'm 35; I'm fully prepared to go to my grave having been alone my whole life before I settle for a girl that I am ashamed to be with.

The state of the game is such that women are all mini-celebs. I saw so many girls with beer guts and blubber getting so much attention it wasn't even funny, meanwhile a guy like me who nearly killed himself to lose 40 lbs and works out everyday and has a job and goes to college is absolutely invisible.

The problem isn't just feminism in this country. The biggest problem is demographics. There are simply too many guys and not enough girls. The stats just don't add up for men; about 4 guys to every girl from what I can see. Obesity also plays a factor; less and less thinner women to get. If you approach a girl now, she surely either has
A) bf B) FB C) 4-5 other guys in the same boat as you, all competing


Nothing is going to happen for me here. I am not wanted in America, especially by women. You have to go where your wanted, where your in demand. If your not a woman or a 6'2 Anglo-Germanic who drives a BMW, you are not wanted in America and women despise your existence. In Brazil, the demographics favor men. Same with the Philippines, Thailand, many other third world countries. Its sad that I have to dream o leaving my own country just so I won't be lonely, but what other choice do I have? I've already wasted a good portion of my youth, just being teased and crapped on by these b*tches.

Sorry if this is just ramblings, but I don't have approaches to write about. You can't approach girls who are already with guys, you can't approach girls that grab onto each other when you get close, you van only sit and stare as they c*cktease you to death. I don't condone what he did, don't get me wrong. But I DO NOT judge George Sodini. There, I said it.

I swear, I'm only going to degrade myself for so long. Eventually I'm giving up entirely, because so far, all I've done is waste my time and money when in reality, these girls just do not want anything to do with me. :(

Back to homework, then school tomorrow, knowing full well I have nothing to really look forward to in life

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_P-v1BVQn8
 

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On the bright side that shirt from designbyhumans.com was pretty fly :rock: and you helped me out because I've been looking to improve my style and that site has some sick shirts.

I'm in the same boat as you, I worry my best days are being wasted because Im not getting any pvssy and I'm not willing to settle. I fear I could die at any moment (car accident, nuclear holocaust asteroid, etc.) and I wouldn't have banged a hot chick yet.

A lot of guys here think clubs and bars are a waste. I think they're ok in moderation, but shouldn't be your main source for picking up girls. Go to more house parties if you can, expand your social circle, go to places girls go after a night of partying (e.g. late night pizza). Just find new ways to meet women outside of environments where they have all the power.

If your getting desperate go on vacation to a place where it is easy to get women. One guy here said he went on a cruise and it was amazing. I can't give you much more advice since Im struggling too. There are more girls out there than you realize and most of them are looking for a good man. Just not always at clubs and bars
 

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Been a while. That's because I have done very little because, frankly, Im a loser.

But today I did make progress. I got my first number from daygame

Sitting in class in the corner, I noticed a girl looking at me from across the room. This has been going on throughout the semester, but until today I couldn't muster up courage to do anything about it.

What really helped was that I was pushed to talk to her by my friend. That is very important

So, after class, I came up to her and said:

TIC: hey do I know you from calculus?
HB7: yea blah blah blah
TIC: ok cool whats your major now.....

We walked out to the hallway then the parking lot together, talking about stuff. Conversation lasted maybe 2 1/2 minutes. When she was about to head to her car, I asked for her number, and she gave them up. I also said something dumb:

TIC: Do you work on the weekends?
HB7: No
TIC "Do you wanna do something saturday?"
HB7: Well, text me and we'll see

I should of not asked and just said it.

This number probably is the most promising, because I have a ton of access to this girl. I see her at least twice a week in multiple classes. We shall see what happens. I'll text her tomorrow.

It would be nice if my peter could get lubricated with human saliva rather than lotion all the time....its been a while goddamit. A long long while
 

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Ok, ok. Had some firsts last night, and made good progress.

Went to work at the coffee shop, and I think I did a good job at socializing. I carried conversations with customers coworkers, etc

So after work, I go home and play poker. At like 9pm, I get a text from my friend if I want to go to a club. I say yup, take a quick shower, and head to his house. We drive to the club, and its empty at that time so we get pizza, then come back to to the club. It was packed.

So I danced with a few girls. Then, I get on stage and start dancing with this hb6. I took the advice of those here who said that getting numbers is no longer enough. I led her to a seat and tried to escalate.Unfortunately, 2 douche-bags made us move because it was VIP even though no one was sitting there. Whatever.

So we keep dancing for a long time, and she gets freakier every minute. I keep trying to make out with her, but she kept resisting

But I remembered: you must be sexually aggressive

So I ended up taking her to the hall by the girl's bathroom and making out with her for like 10 minutes. She had a tongue ring, was 18 and fresh out of high school. Her sister was ****-blocking BIG TIME like pulling her away from me multiple times, but HB6 liked me so she stayed. Eventually her **** sister got her to leave the club, but I got her number first. Then we made out again in front of everyone.

Never done any of that before, lol. Actually, haven't kissed anyone since back in early 09'

Now about the girl from school. I will call her later today. This HB6 from the club I will try later.

I wonder why all this progress comes during my state of depression? I don't know. Hope I break loose
 

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One step foward, 3 steps back.

The girl from class that gave me her number thursday didn't respond to my text 2 days later. All I texted was 'this is brandon'. No response. Talk about cut-throat. You have to be some sort of expert PUA just to get anything I guess. There's no way it should be this damn complicated

The girl I made out with at the club friday night? I contacted her today, like 2 texts. She responded.

Then I called her and she said "ill call you back in 5 mins"

she never called back

So there goes 2 plates annihlated in less than a week. That fast. I'm thrown aside that fast. Back to ground zero, that fast. I just can't do this ****...I've made huge strides, strides that I've never done before...and it still isn't enough. Nothing is enough, and I am convinced my genes were not meant to be passed on

this is fukin depressing. I go up to college today to do work and wasted gas because the electricity is being shut down....

one thing after another. Life hates me. Women hate me probably more than I despise them. This country hates me. I have no friends, just a few aquantances that stereotype me out constantly and make me feel like an outsider, even though they really aren't bad people.

I cannot get 1 person to give more than a flying fck about me. A therapist wouldn't even care about me. I'm truly alone, and I have been since fuking 7th grade
 

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Long time no update. I haven't done much lately, as I've caught a very bad infection and am miserably sick.

As far as ladies, nothing much is happening. All my plates are done. However, a few hours ago Kayla texted me out of the blue. We've been talking back and forth for a while. I guess that implies interest right? Lol knowing my luck, she's just fvcking with me.

At school I've done better with socializing and talking to people, but still no progress with women.

I'm transferring colleges, actually to the one Kayla attends. We'll see what happens at New Years Eve parties and stuff
 

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been reading the journal. You got some potential for sure and you have come a long way in a short period of time. One thing that is concerning is the negative things you say about yourself throughout the journal. I don't know whether you realize it or not but this kind of thinking LEADS to bad results.

The world is not against you and your desire to fornicate. Not too sound too harsh but what makes you think you are so important that the world is going out of its way to ensure you don't get success?

Here is a book that I recommend you read and do the exercises in. It has helped a lot of people and it can help you too. Changing your way of thinking can have amazing effects on your life in little time.

Also, although I disagree with most of what spinaroonie said, you do need to try and connect with the people you meet in order for them to look forward to your call and answer when you call. Although you believe that girls are rejecting you because there is something unique about you that they dislike, they are actually rejecting you because you are doing the same thing as 90% of guys and they you are not a celebrity or have huge social proof or whatever so you can't get away with it.

If you still believe that the problem has to do with you as a person instead of simply your approach, then check out the recent threads on flakes and you will see: this is pretty much the norm. You need to show women how you are unique/interesting have things in common when you talk to them so that they are interested in continuing the conversation at a later date and spending time with you.

Also, if you are looking for a good time, then the club is where it is at, but if you are lonely, you need to a) make more friends that are interested in what you are interested in and b) Meet women outside of clubs.

Meeting women in clubs usually is fleeting fun. You will likely fall head over heels for a tease and feel (even more) terrible.

Good luck and keep on updating. People are reading and taking notes
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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I got a new haircut. http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e279/Prevlnt/pic%20me/122920103322.jpg Went to a club last night. I picked up my friend then headed there. On the way there, I stopped at a liquor store and got a $3 Smirnoff.

So I was buzzed while waiting outside in line, stumbling around. I go in the club and stumble to the first cute girl I see. She was a short hb7 standing there with her friend.

TIC: hey girl whats your name
hb7: (smiles at her friend)
TIC: wanna have some fun come with me
hb7: (giggles and walks away with friend)

bi tch

So then for the next hour, I walk around the club observing how barely anyone is dancing except the ****-teasers on stage being lesbians. Everyone on the floor is just standing around.

Fast-forward another hour later, I FINALLY get a dance with some hb5 that seems like a chubby *****. She was dancing real freaky the whole night from what I saw. I walk up to her put my arm around her
TIC: hey whats ur name
hb5:blah
TIC:turn around

she's doing her thing to me near the strip pole. After like 20 minutes she seems tired and heads to the wall

TIC: dont tell me your tired already
hb7: (smiles and grabs my hand)

she takes me to the wall and does her thing to me more. After a while she goes off to her friends. After that I walk around more and finally get a dance with a legit hb8. She's wearing a red dress and heels. She is in the group of like 5 friends. I walk right up and just grind her.

TIC: whats ur name
hb8: blah

we keep going for a while till she stops and i tell her to come with me, but she said no

I go back to hb5 and ask

TIC: ready for round 2

she does it again by the strip pole. I walk away. I see a really really hot chick with the best body I've seen in a while. I go up to her and talk but she just pushes me away. She, like most girls, just stood there the whole night and didn't dance with anyone. *****es.

There was a girl earlier hb9 that my friend said was staring at me. I never got the balls to come up to her because she was with a guy and another girl. I didn't know what the deal was. I walked past her like 5 times and was real close to approaching but I chickened out each time. One time I swear she looked over at me but after so many failed attempts I just gave up the idea.

Overall terrible night and I have a headache from vodka. Possibly will do a new years party tonight if my promoter friend comes through with details of it. Will update later
 

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Alright, here's how my NYE went

I went to a club alone, as I couldn't find anyone to go with. Got liquored up and waited in a long long long line. In line a nice hb6 gave me the rest of her cpt morgan (she was with her bf). Then 20 minutes later while still in line, a girl comes up to me and asks

hb8: how long have you been in line
TIC: 10 minutes
hb8: oh blah bah I go to X college
TIC: oh really I go there too! (im drunk as fuk)

a conversation ensued with her friends. When we got to the front, I swear her and her hot friend started talking dirty out of nowhere to me

hb9: we're gonna tag team him
hb8: yea lets tag team this guy
TIC: lol

they mentioned a 3-way a few times. "manage ai twa or whatever the fuk its called. However, when it came time for us to get in the club, they bailed out of line for no explained reason after having waited there over an hour! NO NO NO NO NO FUK NO NO NO NO NO NO NO FUK FUK

could of lost my virginity in a 3-way fuk fuk. mother fuker. fuk

fuk

Her remaining friends danced with me on stage and made out with each other while me and another guy grinded them. They did this during the countdown to new years. hot stuff. they left me eventually

then i got rejected all night by every single girl. just abunch of groups of girls dancing with each other...if you didn't already come with a girl you probably weren't getting sh*t. I left soon after, as It seemed I asked every girl out already.

Overall another terrible night and a terrible new years eve. I am proud that I finally went out alone though and on such a holiday. this was my first time being outside the house on new years eve at night haaha
 

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Nothing lately. I just recently started trying to put on muscle. What I am doing is eating a ton of food and lifting everyday at the gym.

I'm 5'11 and 157 pounds currently. I want to get to 175. I'll do lifting the entire time and see where I get in my arms. I hate doing this because I don't want to get a gut, but I guess I have to get one then cut down one I hit 175 lbs

Problem is I don't put on muscle easily; I have skinny genes most definitely. I'm aiming for 5000 calories each day. Can't wait to see if this works; I've never had muscle my whole life haha. (Didn't do hs football or anything like that)
 

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Well, lately I've been doing weight lifting every other day. As far as women? Nada. Nothing. I've gotten a few IOI's, but I acted on none of them.

My job is done. I quit yesterday. I had female coworkers conspiring against me so I had to jet before I was fired, as the boss is a mangina who will do anything they say. It was damage control...

So that will hinder me in the future. No money for gas, club cover charges, dates, etc etc etc. Its all school and being a broke college student now.

Tomorrow I see a psychologist. I hope to be prescribed with something for anxiety, depression, and lack of focus. I'll use my last check from work to get them, then see if I improve socially. I'll update if anything of note happens.
 

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My comp has been broke for a little while, so I only have access to university computers.

With V-Day coming, things are looking good. A couple weeks ago, my friend introduced me to a girl that is an excellent match for me. She's a video game nerd that just moved here from Seattle. She knows no one and lives alone in her own apartment. This chick is a Scottish hb8 with huge tits and red hair. Only downside is that she is tall, like right at my height.

I would post the original approach, but I can't remember because it was a while ago. All I can say is that it was easy to talk to her because we share so much in common.

Our first date was Super Bowl Sunday. She texted me out of nowhere and asked what I was doing for the day. I said I had no plans and she suggested we go somewhere to watch the game. We decide Buffalo Wild Wings right near her place. Before we go, we sat in her place drinking corona and talking about sh!t. We went to watch the first half of the game and I Kino'd a bit during the commercials.

When we got back we made a bet: if I beat her in Virtual Fighter 4 she gives me a strip dance. She was supposedly an expert at the game, but I still won even though I never play that game. Valentines day we have plans and are supposed to do more stuff after that.
 
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