TIC's Approach Journal

[TIC]

Guess who just lined up 2 dates with 2 different girls this thurs and fri? Yours truly. And I only used 2 of the 4 numbers I got Saturday

First chick I texted was the blonde hb6. I wasn't expecting a response, but she started chatting with me. Turns out she is babysitting saturday, I say "looks like you have a busy schedule so text me when your free. Not really that into this chick, as she is chubby

While texting the hb6 I sent a text to the second best girl (hb7 curly hair blonde short height) out of the 4 numbers I had. We talk back and forth, and since I was so ****y like I've been taught to be, I've gotta record the exact texts:

TIC: Hey this is tic from club blah sat night
Kayla: heyy wats up?
TIC: I'm on campus studying in the library what abt u
Kayla: im in my room bout to either work or take a nap lol
TIC: You seem like the procrastinating type I bet you'll fall asleep lol
Kayla: wwooow lol u dnt even know me and i already seem like the procrastinating type?? i musta made one hell of a impression ha
TIC: Haha well it was mostly a good impression. You just had a certain look abt u
Kayla: Ha well thanks I guess :/ lol
TIC: And what impression did make besides being awesome
Kayla: possibly a lil ****y?? maybe
TIC: Haha well you liked it. Ur a fun dancer
Kayla: I liked it? I wasn't aware of that? Lol and thank you
TIC: Look you seem interesting. I want to get to know you more are u free friday?
Kayla: Im going to the toga party at night but otherwise so far i got nothing else planned that I know of
TIC: Your on blah campus right? I'll come get u at like 1
Kayla: yeah i live on campus lol wat exactly were you thinking of doing? ha
TIC: We should go to a cafe nearby or somethin like that
Kayla: yea that def sounds good


So that's the whole convo. Now that I have thursday booked for a movie date (the previous post, the hb8 that took my number) and friday for a cafe date, I'm gonna try to hold off on the other 2 girls for now. My plates are spinning. I just got finished having lunch in the cafeteria with a chick form last years class. She's engaged, but it can't hurt to practice talking to women 1 on 1

My social life has radically changed all of a sudden. I have NEVER had this much sh!t going on with girls. I never want to look back, this shall continue until I'm six feet underground

 

[joe henny]

Why would you take a chick to the movies. You cant talk and get to know her lifestory at a fuki!n movie theater!

 

[TIC]

Why would you take a chick to the movies. You cant talk and get to know her lifestory at a fuki!n movie theater!

And what exactly do you suggest I do instead? Are you here to give advice or just critique what I do?

 

[joe henny]

Give advice. Cofee dates are far superior my man trust me taking hoes to the movies adds up and you cant know them. I date on average: In a good week 5-6 in a bad 1 0-3. I use this formula: I call em chat for awhile so that they feel like they kinda know me. Then I take em for coffe, and after that I take them to a park or somewhere else quit. Preferably their house (I still live at home) If its a chick thats feeling you its almost garunteed ***** by the the second date and a few times for me the firsst date. Thats what I do

 

[joe henny]

Give advice. Cofee dates are far superior my man trust me taking hoes to the movies adds up and you cant know them. I date on average: In a good week 5-6 in a bad 1-3. I use this formula: I call em chat for awhile so that they feel like they kinda know me. Then I take em for coffe, and after that I take them to a park or somewhere else quit. Preferably their house (I still live at home) If its a chick thats feeling you its almost garunteed ***** by the the second date and a few times for me the firsst date. Thats what I do

 

[YoungSir4sho]

Good job TIC.. Keep at it.. Joe henny.. U kno it's funny.. I have never took a girl out on a coffee date like starbucks or nuttin like that... Idk I think it's cuz I don't drink coffee.. Some of that sounds good about the talking n getting to know part...

3 years ago when I lived wit my parents all I used to do was take a girl to the movies.. Then afterwards we get something to eat.. Then I usually say I wish it didn't have to end this early.. When a girl says they wish it didn't either.. Then I would suggest a hotel or their place if they could allow it.. 98% it worked...

Nowdays since I have my own place... Imma b honest I don't even usually do movie dates in da beggining.. I tell them to come over n we have our date at my place watchin netflix movies on my 360 then she spends da night over etc lol... I do have to say tho.. All of this worked was cuz I used to b heavy with the online game or phone chatline game.. So I talked to them on da phone fo a day or days 1st b4 we met... Which is y I quit online/phone chatlines n just stick to IRL Game..

 

[joe henny]

Good job TIC.. Keep at it.. Joe henny.. U kno it's funny.. I have never took a girl out on a coffee date like starbucks or nuttin like that... Idk I think it's cuz I don't drink coffee.. Some of that sounds good about the talking n getting to know part...

3 years ago when I lived wit my parents all I used to do was take a girl to the movies.. Then afterwards we get something to eat.. Then I usually say I wish it didn't have to end this early.. When a girl says they wish it didn't either.. Then I would suggest a hotel or their place if they could allow it.. 98% it worked...

Nowdays since I have my own place... Imma b honest I don't even usually do movie dates in da beggining.. I tell them to come over n we have our date at my place watchin netflix movies on my 360 then she spends da night over etc lol... I do have to say tho.. All of this worked was cuz I used to b heavy with the online game or phone chatline game.. So I talked to them on da phone fo a day or days 1st b4 we met... Which is y I quit online/phone chatlines n just stick to IRL Game..

Thats what I used to do till it got oo expensive. I take them fro coffee and if they don't like coffee I use this line "Good I don't either, lets go for a smoothie then". I never spend big $ on a ho. After a man gets to a point where getting the cat is easy he realizes and sees the true side bout women. That most aren't about nothing they just wanna b freaaks. So i nvr spend $ 9 times out of 10 they got a dude on the side providing for em. If you must take em to a resturaunt sign up for restaurant.com they have a bunch of gift cards for like 15 and 50 buks that you can usually get for like 10 buks cash It will make her feel special and more motivated to open her legs. Also if I had my own place Id b getting laid every day. What do you mean Online game did you meet them online? Whats IRL?

 

[TIC]

There are certain things I've learned from life, certain patterns that I come to expect. If one day you feel you're on top of the world, you better be sure to remember that you are about to be knocked the f*ck back down.

So the first bad news is that job situation, the one that was going to solve so many of my problems. The manager hasn't called me back since last week, even though she led me to believe I had the job. I was sure as hell I had the job. She had me fill out a background check form, went over a bunch of stuff with me, and told me that she would call me Monday. Its Thursday, and nothing. Now, I can't even expect to afford money for the weekends or anything. I'm back to square one, and yet again, I feel like absolute crap.

My life is like this: 2 steps forward, 4 steps back. I swear I can't seem to get anywhere. Everything seems difficult, unattainable, much harder than I ever expected. I never thought a simple retail SH*T 8 dollar/hour goddamn fuking crap job at some 2nd rate cafe would be this illusive. What the hell.

On to the other humbling news. The first date flaked (HB8), as I suspected she would. We talked back and forth through texts, and she isn't acting like she wants to go all of sudden. I am not going to beg her, I am not going to ask her again. I offered to take her out, she agreed, and now when it comes time to go she flakes. Fine whatever.

Second girl, (she's dutch, dunno what that means I'm in for) hb7 appears to be interested still. She still wants to meet up in the morning. Hopefully this will go well.


You know, I use to want sex all the time. I use to want to be one of "those" guys, that always had women around and screwed a whole bunch of chicks. But now, I've lost that desire. Why? Because this whole dating game is a nightmare in America, plain and simple. Its all too hard, it all takes too much effort, all the control and advantage belong to women, whether they are 5's or 10's. At this point just having a gf that sticks with me is enough. Its a cold world out there, and having someone there for you is important.

You can go out, look good enough, talk well enough, dance well enough, be cool enough to get the number and if you GET 5 #'s like I did, maybe, just maybe, you'll get 1 date. So far I've collected 7 numbers, and 1 measly date. After all that time and energy. And I didn't do anything wrong. I didn't come off as needy, I made sure to keep my intentions clear and I was as smooth as possible.

You text or call these women and they are like mini-celebrities, every one of them, from the average to decent looking. Their schedules always full, 5-10 guys lined up. You talk to them and it almost feels like you should be paying some sort of fee just for their time. I swear. I shouldn't have to compete with 7 other jerk-offs just for a date.

On campus, I've done my best to stay social and active. I joined as an editor to some student art journal thing. Hopefully this helps.

But man, this sh*t is keeping down, depressed, and frustrated. There's no way this sh*t should be this complicated, but somehow it is. I don't know about going out and doing the clubs/bars anymore. Whats the point of paying $10 if you can have a SUPER successful night and still only have a 20% success rate with the numbers you collect....its hard enough getting the numbers to begin with

Whatever, tomorrow's another day. I hope to Christ this date tomorrow goes well, or that will cap off a horrible, depressing week. Will update later

 

[TIC]

Just got back from the date with the hb7. She was cuter in the daytime, I couldn't get a good look at her when I met her at the darkly lit icebreaker.

I really don't know what to think of the date. We basically hung out on her college campus. We walked around, talked a whole lot. She took me to her dorm room and showed me around and introduced me to her friends. We ate at Jimmy Johns. We drove to my campus which was 20 mins away and I showed her where I take classes and stuff.

So basically we did that kind of thing from 2pm-7:30pm. Got to know each alot. At the end, we hugged but I didn't go for the kiss

I think I fuked up. I think I didn't Keno enough. I'm a fool. Its just, I haven't been on a date in so long. I was out of my comfort zone the whole time and did my best. I kept the conversation going, I tried to demonstrate higher value and mention friends, I even ran into one when we went to my campus

She said she wants to hang out again, but of course, she would say that either way if she liked me or she didn't

There was however points in the date where she had to attend a meeting and could of easily cut the date off right there if she didn't want to be around me, but she kept offering me to stay until it was over. So it could be friend zone, it could be us just taking it slow, I don't know. No idea.

Going to send her a text telling her I had a good time even though it was a boring day to have a date. Again, I'm bad at reading girls and I don't know what to think.

Will update later

 

[TIC]

(made a topic of this question)

Just had this texting session with her(hb7 girl from yesterday) :

(started with texts back and forth, how was the party, how was breakfast, blah blah. Then...
Me: I hope I didn't wear you out yesterday haha
Her: no chance. i workout
Me: Oh yea thats right how silly of me. You have alot of stamina that's good
Her: :-D

 

[tihash]

You can go out, look good enough, talk well enough, dance well enough, be cool enough to get the number and if you GET 5 #'s like I did, maybe, just maybe, you'll get 1 date. So far I've collected 7 numbers, and 1 measly date. After all that time and energy. And I didn't do anything wrong. I didn't come off as needy, I made sure to keep my intentions clear and I was as smooth as possible.



Dude, that's how it goes. The solution to your problem? More chicks. Approach more and more. The more you approach, the more dates you get... albeit at the 7:1 ratio.

The more dates you get, the more you will get laid.

 

[TIC]

Alright, so now I have all my eggs in one basket. The hb7 from the previous date. Me and her have been texting back and forth every single day. Its going well and I like her.


I hate to fall into this after all I've learned. I know I should be spinning more plates and talking to more girls. I know I should be having random f*ks...but I do not think I am cut out for it. I'm not sure I ever was. I think I would rather have a girl that met my physical requirements and was loyal...and this girl seems to. She's 18, but seems mature and over falling for bad-boys and what-not. She admitted to being screwed over alot in her past and wants to grow to trust me. I don't mind taking it slow really, its not like I've done much. I just am not a player and not good with women period. I'm not hideous, I'm not short, I don't have acne or hygiene issues. There's just something wrong with me that I'm sick of trying to figure out.


So anyway, I did at least get some decent news yesterday. I've got a job interview at a grille in a very nice downtown suburb close to my house. Its Saturday morning. I must have this job. It will solve so many of my current problems.


This friday I am suppose to go to a high-end club about an hour away with a friend of mine. This social situation is so strange. Never did I think making friends would be difficult but it is. I can't seem to get any close friends. I know this is my fault for not staying on campus, but after my horrible time in high school, I was shell-shocked and refused to be far from home. I wouldn't go to parties or anything. Took me until last summer to get over that sh*t.


I am confident in my night game and I expect to come home with numbers Fri night unless something goes wrong, which it probably will knowing my luck.
What can I say? This is the best I can do and I'm completely aware of how pathetic my life is.


But I will march on, even if its through a swamp of misery

 

[TIC]

Thursday got kicked out of a gym on another campus. An old friend tried to get me in as a guest. The manager there was power tripping and was rude, threatened to call the cops and everything. Basically, this ruined my day.

Now tonight:

No clubbing tonight, because my acquaintance flaked out on me. Won't be contacting him again. I can't call anyone a friend these days. Don't know what else to say about it. My social circle is non-existent; I need to improve in this area or I am going to go clinically insane. I'm tired of being on the outside looking in.

I have an interview at a Mexican Grille tomorrow at 8 30am. For christs sake I hope this goes well because I haven't heard any legitimate good news in AGES.

The hb7 and I did not contact each other today; this was our first full day without contacting each other at all. I will not worry about it of course, but I do find myself thinking about her alot. This of course is because I'm only spinning one plate so all my eggs are in 1 basket.

Pathetic, just everything is pathetic for me right now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W_0E1QRx84

 

[Elky]

Looks like you know what you need to do at least:

Make a social circle (get close friends whom you trust)

This will be tricky. I would suggest actually going out there and looking to make friends. For instance, if you've got a couple of hobbies that you like doing such as break-dancing, basketball, swimming, running, making music, i dont know!.. just something that you're interested in, try and meet people that are like you and have the same interests as you by joining clubs or anything else you can think of. Girls are easier to find than a handful of good friends.

 

[Solomon]

Looks like you know what you need to do at least:

Make a social circle (get close friends whom you trust)

This will be tricky. I would suggest actually going out there and looking to make friends. For instance, if you've got a couple of hobbies that you like doing such as break-dancing, basketball, swimming, running, making music, i dont know!.. just something that you're interested in, try and meet people that are like you and have the same interests as you by joining clubs or anything else you can think of. Girls are easier to find than a handful of good friends.

Social circle is not easy

I did an experiment for 7 months late last year and early this year. Sure I had some decent result but how many chicks did I bone from that SC? none, zlich, zero, nada.

Same rules apply to SC as to a cold approach if a chick isn't attracted to you sexually you ain't gonna bang

simple as that

 

[Elky]

Being in a social Circle shouldn't all be about getting girls... infact, it shouldn't even be expected.

My post had nothing to do with girls. It was all about how TIC could change his lifestyle for the better, and that is to get or make a social circle.

It strikes me odd that most of the guys on this forum only think about getting girls when the best way to get girls is to simply improve yourself. If you work on being the best person you can possibly be, the girls will come whether you like it or not.

 

[Solomon]

Being in a social Circle shouldn't all be about getting girls... infact, it shouldn't even be expected.

My post had nothing to do with girls. It was all about how TIC could change his lifestyle for the better, and that is to get or make a social circle.

It strikes me odd that most of the guys on this forum only think about getting girls when the best way to get girls is to simply improve yourself. If you work on being the best person you can possibly be, the girls will come whether you like it or not.

I partially agree, I have various SC, but I wanted one with hot chicks

For my experiment I basically wanted to see if I could accomplish that, it wasn't just banging to be honest but being surrounded by beautiful women period.

In my experience, getting into a SC with hot chicks is very hard, it's rewarding but hard because if the chicks aren't attracted to you their time/friendship isn't genuine

women's concept of loyalty and friendship aren't the same as men, a lot of women don't have the same mindset when it comes to principles i.e. bros before ho's, honor things like that

 

[TIC]

Being in a social Circle shouldn't all be about getting girls... infact, it shouldn't even be expected.

My post had nothing to do with girls. It was all about how TIC could change his lifestyle for the better, and that is to get or make a social circle.

It strikes me odd that most of the guys on this forum only think about getting girls when the best way to get girls is to simply improve yourself. If you work on being the best person you can possibly be, the girls will come whether you like it or not.

Yes I've realized this for a while now. I use to only focus on girls, but this past summer I came to the realization that girls were not my problem; I couldn't relate or be close with anyone, period. Making friends is something I'm working on possibly even more than meeting chicks, but its hard.

At this point, I do not care if the social circle has no women in it. I just want one. I don't care if it involves us playing D&D every Friday night, its better than being alone. I'm confident in my night game; I can get numbers, plus I've got a girl that seems interested in me.

Right now this isn't even an approach journal, its a social calibration journal. Women are no longer the focus. I will still update on what happens with them but girls are not gonna be the primary focus of my life anymore

 

[TIC]

Now's a good time for an update, as some good stuff just happened.

First of all, the mexican grille interview didn't go well. (i guess) I don't know what I did wrong, honestly. The manager told me the hiring manager would call me back in the same day or maybe tomorrow, but I haven't got a call form them. I don't understand why he would just lie to my face. Why not just say "we'll call you if we're interested" or something like that? Why did he have to lead me to believe I had the job? What really sucks is that I can't even get a ****TY $8 hour job. Why is everything so hard why why

Monday, got an interview setup with a Bigby Coffee for this Friday. Hopefully I do well, but apparently I'm not service industry material, judging from what happened with the last few interviews.

Alright onto girls. I've got 2 solid plates still spinning. The one girl Kayla I actually care about, so me and her text everyday. I'm trying to set something up but we're both busy with school at the moment, and she drvies back home on the weekends. She seems interested and so am I, so I guess we will take it slow

Now, the other blonde hb7. Raechel. Me and her text sparatically every 3 days, but lately a little more. I had no idea she was into me. Yesterday I did something super risky. Out of the blue at night, I text her:

Me: O **** theres something wrong with my math book
Raech: what?
Me: It has alot of problems
Raech: Lol your ridiculous
Me:

Now, just 20 minutes ago out of the blue she texts me:

Raech: What goes on bro!!!! (no idea what kind of tex that is lol)
Me: Busy with stuff..when are you inviting me over to your dorm?
Raech: Lol after you take me out and treat me right. Then you can see more than just the room
Me. Is that so? We'll see
Raech: We will

Now, before this I didn't even consider her a plate. We have never hung out or anything, we just met at that icebreaker a few weeks ago. The texts between then and now were just fluf stuff. I honestly didn't think this would go anywhere. But after this text, now I know this girl is A) easy and B) ready to f*k

I'm planning on setting up a date with her fri night at the movies. I think that a dark place will be good for abunch of kino and making out before we head back out to my jeep. She just doesn't seem like the type of girl you take to a Cafe and talk politics with, ya know?

Will update later

 

[TIC]

Now here's an update I can be proud of.

Today, some acquaintance of mine in class asked me to exchange numbers. I gave it to him and hopefully we can hang sometime. He said he was going to be busy for the whole day, so I ran a couple miles on the treadmill and went home.

But yea, hanging out is something I was opposed to a couple years ago. Now I'm dissatisfied with that and willing to actually be normal, so that's good.

Job interview for the coffee shop is tomorrow at 12pm. I need this job. If I get it then I will definitely be getting laid. I'll have money to take my 2 plates out and gas and such. If I don't get the job, well, that won't be good.