No real motivation to meet/date girls anymore

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Well I'd like to have a fulfilling love life and have a relationship with a woman I'm really excited about, but this hasn't yet come to pass. Yes I can occasionally meet girls but it feels like the kind of women I want are a bit out of my reach. I wanted to experience something like that while still relatively young but now the door is rapidly closing on that prospect. If I do attain that goal I don't want it to happen when I'm old
Dude thats another psyop. In America, 27 is considered old bc you're used to normies marrying their highschool sweethearts and guys in their 30s and 40s so clueless wit women that all they attract are warn out roasties in their age groups. The truth is that you have plenty of time to capitalize on ur potential and get a nice young girl.
 

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It's just easier to get good at OLD and go at it from there. Is it perfect? Hell no!!, but it beats the efforts of cold approaching lol.
Im not gonna lie, cold approaching is a big effort. I almost dont have any other hobbies it feels like cuz of how much volume i have to go thru before finding anything substantial but that said its such a great skill. I can instantly walk into a room and pick up on cues many cant.
 

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In America, 27 is considered old bc you're used to normies marrying their highschool sweethearts
This is getting less common.

The median age at first marriage is 30.4 for men and 28.6 for women in the USA. Very few high school sweethearts are marrying anymore. Additionally, few college-formed relationships survive more than 3-5 years beyond graduation.

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The median normie gets married to a similarly aged woman he meets through either his social circle, a bar approach, or swiping. Swiping is probably most common for a guy who lacks a social circle.

guys in their 30s and 40s so clueless wit women that all they attract are warn out roasties in their age groups.
This is true. The typical 30s/40s man in the mating market is a pussie beggar who settles for some subpar to mediocre woman close to his own age.
 

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This is getting less common.

The median age at first marriage is 30.4 for men and 28.6 for women in the USA. Very few high school sweethearts are marrying anymore. Additionally, few college-formed relationships survive more than 3-5 years beyond graduation.

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yeah I was saying that more so bc sounds like OP is in a small town in the midwest or something AKA not target rich environment where things might be done closer to the old way but good info
 

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I was saying that more so bc sounds like OP is in a small town in the midwest or something AKA not target rich environment where things might be done closer to the old way but good info
Good point. I've spent my post-college time in 2 of the 15 most populated US metros. This is likely something that has skewed my perspective of the mating environment.
 

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Oh dude! Thats it! Problem solved. U never dated a foreign woman?

I do not date American women at all. I exclusively go for foreign women.

American women stopped making men's juices flow somewhere in the late 90s (altho the process dates from the 60s). If you're a sensitive, masculine and intelligent guy, American women will repel you. Thats just how it is in my experience. Ive met and approached thousands by the way, I literally have ZERO desire.

I lived in Prague for a while, great experience. You will 100% find what you're looking for. Never seen so many girls walking around with baby strollers throughout the day until i moved there. Also theyre all carrying rose bouqets because guys are proposing left and right.

Do not go to Germany. You will regret it. German women are almost as bad as Americans, just less trashy and more educated but not in a good way. They're like cold HR reps who lack any sort of feminine energy. Stay away from Western women, France might be the exception but not really.

As far as the job situation, so what? That means you're used to being frugal im assuming. It also sounds like you're not ultrarich from it but can live comfortably. Awesome! U get to be the Shopenhaurean ascetic. That being said, Amazon is hiring in Prague and u could work there for extra cash while u look for gigs and stuff. But yeah, you're already basically making pennies in a **** part of the US so u got nothing to lose, u might as well be making pennies in an awesome different country/city.

American women are not exciting or attractive at all. I've never met a single one. The closest thing I met to an American was really a 19 year old Dominican in Miami who grew up there but she was heavilly influenced by latin culture and things didnt work out anyway.

Nothing is wrong with you. U sound like an intelligent and driven guy, maybe a bit apathetic but overall go get your juices flowing abroad and you'll be surprised.
So is the answer to look abroad? Doesn't seem like I'd be able to date foreign women without living in another country. Right now I'm stuck here until I get the money from inheritance so I can buy land, and right now I'm not sure where to go. Back in 2019 I was in Austria for a semester. It was a good experience and I became quite familiar with that country, but I didn't meet any girls while I was there. I'd like to try European women for once but I'd have to go abroad if I wanted to meet any and I'm not the sort of guy that can meet girls easily. I'd have to go to whatever country and swipe on dating apps for months if I wanted to meet anyone. But like I said I got no career and I've never really had a job either, and having to manage all the stuff associated with moving abroad is so overwhelming to me that I wouldn't know what to do if I wanted to do that. Because I'm a German citizen I can live in the EU without restrictions, but still it would be a huge task to move my entire life over there. But there's a lot of things about America that I really don't like
 

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So is the answer to look abroad? Doesn't seem like I'd be able to date foreign women without living in another country. Right now I'm stuck here until I get the money from inheritance so I can buy land, and right now I'm not sure where to go. Back in 2019 I was in Austria for a semester. It was a good experience and I became quite familiar with that country, but I didn't meet any girls while I was there. I'd like to try European women for once but I'd have to go abroad if I wanted to meet any and I'm not the sort of guy that can meet girls easily. I'd have to go to whatever country and swipe on dating apps for months if I wanted to meet anyone. But like I said I got no career and I've never really had a job either, and having to manage all the stuff associated with moving abroad is so overwhelming to me that I wouldn't know what to do if I wanted to do that. Because I'm a German citizen I can live in the EU without restrictions, but still it would be a huge task to move my entire life over there. But there's a lot of things about America that I really don't like
Again, Austria would not be first on my list at all. Just try snowbirding, 6mo here and 6mo there or some other similar type combo. U dont have to make one big decisive move but the answer is definitely to go abroad 1000%.
 

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I live in a suburb of the capital city of a midwestern state
Deff not target rich. Anything except Miami, LA, and NYC (NYC really trumps miami and LA by a factor of 20x) is basicville. Finding foreign gems is very tough. Solution: stop looking for needles in a haystack and go where the crops grow all year round
 

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Again, Austria would not be first on my list at all. Just try snowbirding, 6mo here and 6mo there or some other similar type combo. U dont have to make one big decisive move but the answer is definitely to go abroad 1000%.
Where would I go then? Czechia, Hungary, Slovakia, somewhere along those lines? Been to Hungary and Slovakia before but only for a weekend each. My favorite country in Europe is Liechtenstein, been there twice but it's very difficult to move there even if you're a German citizen such as myself. It's also pretty expensive there but not as much as Switzerland. Either way countries in the German speaking part of Europe are a lot more familiar to me. But like I said I'd have to be in whatever country swiping on dating apps every day for months on end for me to be able meet any girls there.
 

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Deff not target rich. Anything except Miami, LA, and NYC (NYC really trumps miami and LA by a factor of 20x) is basicville. Finding foreign gems is very tough. Solution: stop looking for needles in a haystack and go where the crops grow all year round
I mean that sounds all good but it'd be a huge undertaking. Having to travel thousands of miles away just to look for women. I'm already not very good at meeting women to begin with so that problem would follow me all over the world. Guys like me just have to swipe and hope
 
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Where would I go then? Czechia, Hungary, Slovakia, somewhere along those lines? Been to Hungary and Slovakia before but only for a weekend each. My favorite country in Europe is Liechtenstein, been there twice but it's very difficult to move there even if you're a German citizen such as myself. It's also pretty expensive there but not as much as Switzerland. Either way countries in the German speaking part of Europe are a lot more familiar to me. But like I said I'd have to be in whatever country swiping on dating apps every day for months on end for me to be able meet any girls there.
Dude seriously? Liechtenstein? It has a population of like 30,000 ppl. You'd have more chances finding a gem in an Alabama walmart parking lot then over there lol.

Why do u say "for months on end"? U dont know that. My friend gets dates within days of arriving to mid sized cities in Columbia and hes a 39 y o Aussie. You will get dates a lot faster than that.

Also u say u never had a job. Perhaps ur a little bit lazy. I say that w respect. U might have a bit of an entitlemenet mentality. I could say that bc I have it too. Spoiled, rich step parent for several years blablabla, i could see how that can dull a man's ambition. U need to be okay with the idea of putting in a bit of effort, this is seduction, romance we're talking about! Get excited!

BTW yes to all 3 countries u mentioned.
 

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I mean that sounds all good but it'd be a huge undertaking. Having to travel thousands of miles away just to look for women. I'm already not very good at meeting women to begin with so that problem would follow me all over the world. Guys like me just have to swipe and hope
You're too sure of yourself. Take a risk.
 

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Dude seriously? Liechtenstein? It has a population of like 30,000 ppl. You'd have more chances finding a gem in an Alabama walmart parking lot then over there lol.

Why do u say "for months on end"? U dont know that. My friend gets dates within days of arriving to mid sized cities in Columbia and hes a 39 y o Aussie. You will get dates a lot faster than that.

Also u say u never had a job. Perhaps ur a little bit lazy. I say that w respect. U might have a bit of an entitlemenet mentality. I could say that bc I have it too. Spoiled, rich step parent for several years blablabla, i could see how that can dull a man's ambition. U need to be okay with the idea of putting in a bit of effort, this is seduction, romance we're talking about! Get excited!
Any excitement I've had about dating or trying to meet women is long gone. Hence why I made this very thread in the first place. I might be a little lazy when it comes to work but it's probably because I never really had to work in order to survive. The closest thing I have to work experience is my recording and touring experience as a bass player, but that'll never pay the bills and it's a pipe dream to expect that it ever will.

It may be the case that your friend can get dates that quick, but I'm not really the kind of guy who can. I feel like even if I was a famous rock n roller I would still have trouble meeting women tbh
 

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Any excitement I've had about dating or trying to meet women is long gone. Hence why I made this very thread in the first place. I might be a little lazy when it comes to work but it's probably because I never really had to work in order to survive. The closest thing I have to work experience is my recording and touring experience as a bass player, but that'll never pay the bills and it's a pipe dream to expect that it ever will.

It may be the case that your friend can get dates that quick, but I'm not really the kind of guy who can. I feel like even if I was a famous rock n roller I would still have trouble meeting women tbh
Why do u say that? Are u significantly unattractive. You have no objective metric. I get what u mean though about not feeling any excitement. It sounds like your physiology is stagnant from a life of domestication due to comfort. You might physiologically be in a state of homeostasis not too different than a house plant.

You just need to be plugged into an environment that activates different chemicals inside your body cuz remember we are primarily biological creatures.
 

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What makes those good?
They're all part of the Happsburg immigration agreement which makes them BASED countries. They are not open to the EUs style of feminism and mass immigration making the streets safe and packed with beautiful feminine white women. Feminism is not too firmly established in their culture yet. Many immigrants from Ukraine, Poland and Bulgaria and Romania go there. U might like Romania a bit more though cuz it sounds like you're a bit more alternative/introvert hippy type. Romania has a lot of gypsies and they might be more open to folk and alternative type guys.
 

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They're all part of the Happsburg immigration agreement which makes them BASED countries. They are not open to the EUs style of feminism and mass immigration making the streets safe and packed with beautiful feminine white women. Feminism is not too firmly established in their culture yet. Many immigrants from Ukraine, Poland and Bulgaria and Romania go there. U might like Romania a bit more though cuz it sounds like you're a bit more alternative/introvert hippy type. Romania has a lot of gypsies and they might be more open to folk and alternative type guys.
All these are good points, and I do agree those countries are more based. Never been to Rumania but perhaps you got a point about it
 

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Why do u say that? Are u significantly unattractive. You have no objective metric. I get what u mean though about not feeling any excitement. It sounds like your physiology is stagnant from a life of domestication due to comfort. You might physiologically be in a state of homeostasis not too different than a house plant.

You just need to be plugged into an environment that activates different chemicals inside your body cuz remember we are primarily biological creatures.
I mean I'm pretty introverted and I'm not really that relatable to most people so that always hampers my ability to meet women. I'm not unattractive but I got more of a niche look if that makes any sense. I've been told by a fair amount of people that I look kinda like Blake from workaholics if that makes sense. Either way I've never had a way of consistently meeting women, just swiping and hoping.

With your latter point idk where such an environment would be
 
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