my struggles with the ladies go way beyond mere social awkwardness

[BaronOfHair]

Based on what his mom has shared with me, he doesn't have to do anything at all

Ask HIM what he does to be successful on this front, NOT his mother... And, for God's sake, abandon all fantasies of bedding her

 

[The Duke]

I'm mainly wondering if maybe there's some loophole I don't know about where I could get a woman in spite of all my baggage.

loopholes, like shortcuts. No, you lazzy azz. Start improving your situation or find some other forum to post on. This one isn't for you.

 

[BaronOfHair]

The double standard pisses me off too

Our society is filled with a wide array of double standards, GM, most of which ain't going away anytime within this century. We all have a choice as to the way in which we respond to them:
You can spend a large portion of your day enraged over all things that aren't going the way you think they SHOULD(what Cognitive Behavioral shrinks and their antecedents describe as Shoulding/Musturbation), or be momentarily and periodically annoyed and displeased, then ask yourself:
"Alright... Things being the way they are, what do I do to achieve my goal, DESPITE life being less than perfect? What are some small steps I can take to start becoming more attractive, even if it's just combing my hair, washing my butt, purring on fresh clothes, then going out into the sunlight and fresh air, and being around my fellow humans socially, rather than for work related reasons?"


"A Plain Jane wanting a Chad who has big muscles and makes 6 figures is totally socially acceptable..."

No, it's not... Look at the guy the chick who used to play the daughter on Gilmore Girls ended up with, vs those Kate Upton has been romantically linked to. All of us, regardless of gender, have to exert effort and sometimes wind our way through discomfort, in order to get what we want in life


"...yet a guy like me (who would be glad if I could merely get an average-looking older fattie for free casual sex) gets accused of feeling entitled"

Start heeding the counsel everyone on this site has very generously provided you, free of charge, and the reception you receive just mat be a trifle more empathetic

 

[GoodMan32]

Ask HIM what he does to be successful on this front, NOT his mother... And, for God's sake, abandon all fantasies of bedding her

Maybe if he wasn't behind bars right now, I could ask him.

Excellent guess on your part that I'd like to bed his mom

 

[BaronOfHair]

Maybe if he wasn't behind bars right now, I could ask him

Jails and prisons still have visiting hours. Go see and speak to him. No, I'm not kidding

Excellent guess on your part that I'd like to bed his mom

Exactly what I was afraid of

 

[GoodMan32]

The woman I had my last date with knew about a lot of my baggage.

On our first date, it came out that I don't own a car, I partially rely on parents financially, and I have hardly any social life.

And even though I didn't get into just how severe my mental illness is, I at least touched upon the topic of my mental illness.

Much to my surprise, the woman wanted a 2nd date with me even after finding out about my baggage. I really thought I had potential with her.

Then we ended up hating each other before the 2nd date had a chance to happen.

 

[GoodMan32]

And this is how we get to 20-page threads. Good job laying down the suspense, buddy. Now tell us the riveting story how you ended up hating each other. Spare not detail.

I've given a synopsis before.

The gist of how we ended up hating each other: In retrospect, she probably grew tired of the fact I wasn't taking the lead about picking a location for our 2nd date.

And the bucket officially overflowed when I failed to get a joke she made.

Interesting how she's ok with me being a mentally ill hermit who partially relies on parents financially and doesn't own a car, yet failing to take the lead (and failing to get a joke) is where she draws the line.

 

[Clockwerk50]

loopholes, like shortcuts. No, you lazzy azz. Start improving your situation or find some other forum to post on. This one isn't for you.

@GoodMan32 completely ignored my comment about doing push-ups. It seems like he’s just here to vent about his life instead of taking action.

 

[BaronOfHair]

The woman I had my last date with knew about a lot of my baggage

Which clearly proved to be a panty peeler, on par with walking into a job interview at Goldman Sachs, then regaling the interviewer with tales of the weekend you just spent smoking crystal meth and tossing puppies into a lit furnace

I really hope that you're just f-cking with us, GM, and that what you've been doing here at SS is some sort of prank

 

[BaronOfHair]

On our first date, it came out that I don't own a car, I partially rely on parents financially, and I have hardly any social life.

And even though I didn't get into just how severe my mental illness is, I at least touched upon the topic of my mental illness

In spite of myself, I'm curious: How in Xenu's name did ANY of that s-it get worked into FIRST DATE conversation, GM? I'm really struggling to even envision the context in which such a thing could possibly occur...

"You enjoying the wine, honey? Before you get too drunk to remember, let me fill you in... I have no car, and am banned from riding the city bus, after I refused to stop sharing my fantasies of doing the mom from Growing Pains with everyone in earshot. And I also live in my parents basement, so if we bone, it'll have to be either at your place or on a park bench in the middle of the night"

-"Waiter, could you bring the check? While he's ringing us up, I should tell you... I was diagnosed with autism awhile back, but increasingly, it seems I might actually be afflicted with something that ain't even in The DSM. So, same time and place next week? Perhaps you'd like to hear a blow by blow account of that time I ended up with a prolapsed rectum in 9th grade gym glass"

 

[corrector]

In spite of myself, I'm curious: How in Xenu's name did ANY of that s-it get worked into FIRST DATE conversation, GM? I'm really struggling to even envision the context in which such a thing could possibly occur...

"You enjoying the wine, honey? Before you get too drunk to remember, let me fill you in... I have no car, and am banned from riding the city bus, after I refused to stop sharing my fantasies of doing the mom from Growing Pains with everyone in earshot. And I also live in my parents basement, so if we bone, it'll have to be either at your place or on a park bench in the middle of the night"

-"Waiter, could you bring the check? While he's ringing us up, I should tell you... I was diagnosed with autism awhile back, but increasingly, it seems I might actually be afflicted with something that ain't even in The DSM. So, same time and place next week? Perhaps you'd like to hear a blow by blow account of that time I ended up with a prolapsed rectum in 9th grade gym glass"

It is fished out by the woman by his social and behaviour cues (ie something is not all together with this guy. I cant put my finger on it but better check my other options). The car is obvious as well as logistics. None of what you wrote needs to be spelled out.

 

[corrector]

I really hope that you're just f-cking with us, GM, and that what you've been doing here at SS is some sort of prank

We are serious. What would you do in a similar situation?

 

[BaronOfHair]

What would you do in a similar situation?

Something that requires cyanide capsules to complete

 

[BaronOfHair]

It is fished out by the woman by his social and behaviour cues (ie something is not all together with this guy. I cant put my finger on it but better check my other options). The car is obvious as well as logistics. None of what you wrote needs to be spelled out.

Let's let GM(who that question was directed at)answer for himself

 

[GoodMan32]

@GoodMan32 completely ignored my comment about doing push-ups. It seems like he’s just here to vent about his life instead of taking action.

More like I work full time (and don't have time to address every single point)

 

[SW15]

Simply being a piece of excrement career felon makes broads horny for him (because of the thrill factor). His mom told me the last time he got released, he got Facebook messages of broads asking him for sex.

That can help a guy get laid so long as he's got a solid height.

 

[GoodMan32]

In spite of myself, I'm curious: How in Xenu's name did ANY of that s-it get worked into FIRST DATE conversation, GM? I'm really struggling to even envision the context in which such a thing could possibly occur...

"You enjoying the wine, honey? Before you get too drunk to remember, let me fill you in... I have no car, and am banned from riding the city bus, after I refused to stop sharing my fantasies of doing the mom from Growing Pains with everyone in earshot. And I also live in my parents basement, so if we bone, it'll have to be either at your place or on a park bench in the middle of the night"

-"Waiter, could you bring the check? While he's ringing us up, I should tell you... I was diagnosed with autism awhile back, but increasingly, it seems I might actually be afflicted with something that ain't even in The DSM. So, same time and place next week? Perhaps you'd like to hear a blow by blow account of that time I ended up with a prolapsed rectum in 9th grade gym glass"

Ok, to answer your question of how this stuff got worked into 1st date discussion, I'm going to need to back up to how I met her.

I've mentioned on this forum that her dog came right up to me (and then the woman took a liking to me too). Which is true. But there's more to the story.

This super strange/annoying guy I rode the bus with on a regular basis roped me into hanging out with him. When he spotted this woman from a distance, he asked me to serve as his wingman. I agreed. We then approached her. His plan for me to act as a wingman backfired on him (as explained, the woman ended up preferring me).

During our date, the question of how I knew the strange guy inevitably came up. The answer (that I rode the bus with him) gave away that I don't own a car.

While talking about him, I mentioned that I really don't want to get roped into hanging out with him again (and that I generally don't like to do social stuff at all...because of my social phobia), that's how it came up that I'm mentally ill and have hardly any social life. She has hardly any social life either.

She's local to my neighborhood. When I mentioned which building I live in (and what I do for work), it became obvious there's a mismatch between my income vs my housing (so that's how it came up that I get assistance from parents).

I left out the fact I'm on the spectrum by the way. I draw a hard line at informing a woman I'm interested in of my ASD.

 

[corrector]

Something that requires cyanide capsules to complete

Perhaps the most honest treatment of the subject.

 

[MatureDJ]

Here's what doesn't make sense though: A coworker's son has a lot of my negative traits and then some. Yet he has no trouble getting a woman during the stretches when he's a free man (he's a career felon).

In addition to being a career felon:

• He has no license.
• He relies on parents 100% financially (even though he's slightly older than me) when he's a free man (as he has a spotty track record when it comes to working)
• He holds extreme political beliefs
• He suffers from mental illness.

If my negative traits are a turn off, how come he's able to soak a woman's panties?

Because we live in a clown world.

Clown World

Clown World or clown society is a term used to satirize elements of modern society. It is a term generally used by the alt-right movement, later adopted by the incel...

incels.wiki

 

[MatureDJ]

Something that requires cyanide capsules to complete