Jayer's 100 Approach Journal (Will Finish 100 approaches no matter what)

[Reyaj]

Ok time for my update on these plates I'm spinning. But in addition I did 6 approaches over the weekend!

I'll post the results of that after the plate recap..... I honestly can't believe how far I've come.... the biggest thing I can say is that I'm really starting to lose my approach anxiety when in a social setting.... I don't think it will ever be gone completely as I've heard even the greatest and notorious PUAS still get nervous. The key is using that energy in a positive manner. Now I still have a lot of approaches to go.. so I don't want to pat myself on the back too much but really say Thank You to everyone who has read and commented on this thread. That goes for both positive and negative comments.... This journal has been more effective than I thought in my transformation. A transformation which still has a ways to go... but I have to say I'm feeling good right now.....

So lets start with the super fast record close girl... the one who never responded to me on Friday. Well Saturday for the heck of it I texted her "Hey I'm going to be near you with my cousin, you should bring a friend out and we could all grab coffee"

She responds a little later "Thats a possibility, but now I'm going to take a nap lol"

Well she never responded...... so a little later I was out I decided to ring her phone... but no answer....

Interestingly enough she texts me a few minutes later saying "Hey I'm eating out, what's up"

Well I responded "I'm on my way out clubbing with my cousin, what are you doing tomorrow"

No response.....

So that night I went out sarging as I mentioned... I had some drinks as usual.... and I decided to text the girl the same thing i have texted the others when they start to flake

"just because you're beautiful... doesn't mean you can't respond to my question lol"

She responds pretty fast....

"what... what do u mean what question, I didnt get anything"

I text back "I asked what u were doing tomorrow lol"

She responds back "its sunday so just watching football game lol"

I respond back "are you going to the game lol" No response.....

but the next morning she responded "no way I'm just watching it on tv lol"

I texted back a little later "good games eh"

No response

I tried calling her.... but no answer as usual....

At this point I decided this girl was nexted.....

But what's funny is today I get a random text from her "Hey what's up"

I respond back "I'm at work.... did you like that football game "

she responds back "of course... what kind of question is that lol"

I haven't responded and don't intend to...

Ok now for the HB 8 that lives out of state.... Well Saturday we were supposed to go out...... I call in the afternoon and I can tell she was on the other line and she didn't pick up.....

She does however call me back like 10 minutes later

She said she was on the phone with someone else and that she woke up today really sick. Maybe it was an excuse.... but I actually believe her cause her voice sounded pretty bad.... I told her don't worry.... we can hang out another time. She said she feels bad we have to keep posponing and offered up tomorrow. She said she'd call me.... and we hung up shortly after. I texted her saying to just get rest this weekend and we could hang out during the week. She said that was cool.

I texted her yesterday to see how she's feeling and she responded back "a little btter thanks, did you have have fun last night" I texted her back saying I did and she asked where I went.....

I haven't reached out to her today... I think she is going back to school soon though so I don't know....

Ok so the HB 7.5 that works a lot...... I called her on saturday... no answer as usual.... I texted her saying we should get coffee or in her case tea... She responded back

"you are going to think im nuts but i dont like tea either...."

Then she responded back a few minutes later "hot chocolate lol..."

I respond back a little later "that works....."

Well believe it or not.... she actually ends up calling me later that night.... we talk for a few minutes.... but since I'm on my way out sarging... I tell her I'll call her tomorrow. I say we should get hot chocolate and she says thats cool.

Well the next day which was yesterday... I call around the afternoon and she picks up.... now honestly I'm very tired from the night before and I really didn't feel liek going out. We talk for a few minutes and when I'm about to ask her about meeting up she says "hey can I call you back" I can tell she was getting another call but I told her thats fine.....

Well she calls me back like an hour later saying "hey I'm at the gym with my friend.... I just wanted to call u back since I said I would... I'll be out in a few hours" I tell her to just call me when she gets out...

I then send a text a little later "hey ask your friend if she wants to come out and get hot chocolate too...."

She responds "she can't.... she's going into work and since she drove me I have to go with her"

I respond "you're going to your friends job?? what are you going to do there"

She responds "she works at her boyfriend's restaurant.. I'll just eat and hang out..."

I respond a while later "oh ok.. well it would be nice to see you in person soon"

She responds "I'm in xxxxtown.. you can always come here if you want"

I respond "I'm actually pretty tired, I wish you told me earlier... lets definitely plan something for this week"

She responds back "k will do"

That was that....

 

[The Nice Guy is Gone]

It seems like you've come a long way--don't be so persistent though. Too much too soon can be a bad thing--although it doesn't look like it's hurt you too bad thus far. Also, choose calling over texting every time. You can tell more by the sound of their voice than you can what they're doing behind some written words. I'm proud of you though--you've come a long way since you first started this thread.

 

[Reyaj]

Everything is moving so fast.... thats its not hard to keep up with the posting.... I'm going to my best... I actually had a date with the HB 8 girl (really turned out to be more like an HB 7) but we will just call here out of state HB. Before we get to that let me recap my approaches from the weekend.


So me and some friends went to this popular block in town where there are bars in clubs. We started out in this one which I have frequented the past couple of weeks and which is where I have pulled some numbers I've reported on.

After drinking for a while with some friends at the bar, I noticed a set of 4 HB 7-8 girls walking out the bar... now something instinctively made me follow them and my friends tagged along... When we go outside I approached the HB 8 of the group from the side asked if she was leaving... then went into multiple threading... she said she was going to the bar next door and I asked if it was good. We basically ended up following them there, but we played it cool to not seem like we were stalking them. Before long some other guys got on them while we were playing it cool....

Ok well that prelude leads into my first approach of the night. Being sort of upset that I didn't go for it sooner I noticed a 2 HB 5's standing on the side drinking. For sport i decide to move in

Me: Hey is there supposed to be a band here?
HB 5: yeah.... they are behind the curtain
Me: Are you sure... I don't see anyone playing
HB 5: Yeah they are coming on in a few
Me: so what's your name
HB 5: I'm HB 5, you?
Me: Jayer nice to meet you. I notice you have an accent where from
HB 5: what country or where do I live?
Me: Both
Her: I'm from sweden and i live in xxxx
Me: ohh right near me
HB 5: really....
Me: What do you do etc...
HB: 5 I'm a nanny and I go to school
Me: thats cool.... but listen I'm about to leave you have a cell phone?
Her: yea I do
Me: let me give you a call sometime
Her: ok sure

I pulled out my phone and got the digits.... then I bailed... and went back to the first bar I was in.


Ok so now back at first bar there is this 4 set at a table drinking and talking. They have pretty much been there the whole night but nobody appears to have approached. I talked to my friends and they said they were ready to move in. As usual they suggested I open it up.... Well I looked at all the girls and I noticed of them head a hair band of sorts in her hair. I move in from the side and approach

Me: thats a nice bandana you got....
Her: its not a bandada its a head band see (takes it off her head and puts it on mine)
Me: are you sure.. lol it looked like a bandana from over there
Her: lol no
Me: So whats your name
Her: I'm HB 6
Me: where from what do you do etc...
Her: blah blah blah
Me: do you live far
Her: blah blah blah
Me: well listen my other friend is getting kind of lonely back there I feel bad
Her: yeah you should go keep him company
(meanwhile I am establsing Kino where possible by leaning in touching her shoulder when I talk to her etc...)
Me: It would be cool to talk sometime
Her: I can give you my screen name
Me: your screen name?? don't you have a cell phone
Her: Yeah I do.... but my friend gave hers out to some guy and he never stops bothering her with texts
Me: wow... well don't worry I won't ever text you
Her: no you can..... its ok....
Me: lol ok well what is it

I pulled out my phone and she gave it to me....

Ok so now that I just went 2 for 2... I'm obviously feeling pretty confident. I noticed this cute bartender from whom my friend was about to order a drink from. I told my friend watch this.... I motioned for the bartender to come over and she did

Me: Excuse me can I ask you a question
Her: whats up?
Me: Are you single
Her: (shaking her head and smiling like she's heard it 1000 times) nope..
Me: I know you're just saying that, but it's all good

She made a funny face at me and went on to serve the next customer

2/3 so far....

Ok so next approach... I am basically hanging out on the side when I see an HB 6 walk by me.... she has a pair of glasses on. I tap her as she walks by and she turns around. I walk up to her...

Me: Hey I like those glasses
Her: (looking surprised I approached and a little shocked) ohh thanks
Me: No problem... So whats your name
Her: HB 6 and yours
Me: I'm Jayer, you come here a lot?
Her: not really.... I rarely go out
(start my normal kino routine of talking close and touching)
Me: Thats cool so where you from yada yada yada

Well this girl's buying signals were very high... she started sying I was cute and kinoing me etc...

Well I did my typical routine of saying I had to go find my friends but this after a lot of close talking. She was a very Italian girl so I played the same card..... I asked her for her number and she gave it to me with joy.

Ok well after this... I decided to head over to the bar I picked up the swedish girl from which was next door.


Well when we walked in there was 5 set standing around talking. Well I decide to pick 1 and approach. I move in and basically say I like her shirt... she ends up telling me she's from brazil and so are all her friends... my other friends move in and start talking to the others.... now the girl really didn't seem to have high IL in me.... not showing IOI... So I kind of backed away from the set while my friends kept chatting up the others...

Well I was getting kind of bored standing alone I decided to go back to the set and try another target... I saw a girl in the group somewhat not engaged in the conversation so I went in.

Me: So you're from brazil too?
Her: Yes
Me: (tried to say something in portuguese)
Her: (smile)
Me: so whats your name
Her: (some name I have no clue)
Me: oh I'm Jayer nice to meet you
Her: likewise
Me: Are you from around here
Her: (some town I honestly don't remember)
Me: Thats cool. Well listen I'm going to get going, you should give me your number
Her: Give me yours I'll call you
Me: umm well give me your phone I'll put it in..

Well she gave me her phone and I put my number in.... then I hit the send button to call my phone but she quickly grabbed it from me and closed it.... She clearly wasn't interested.... what a $#*(#

So anyway I'm 2/4 now....

Well my other friends still kept talking to her friends in the set which I later found out that they # closed.....

Ok so in the meantime I'm a little flustered but I see a blonde HB 7... walking alone towards her friend.... I immediately move in.....

Me: Hey isn't there supposed to be a band here tonight.....
Her: yeah... they were playing before I think they are just taking a break
Me: ohh that would explain it.... whats your name by the way?
Her: I'm HB 7, and you?
Me: I'm Jayer nice to meet you...
Her: you too
Me: where you from?
Her: (some place in the city)
Me: Thats cool.... well listen I was actually about to head out of here, can I get your number I'll give you a call sometime
Her: ok sure... (she pulls out her phone and I pull out mine) here I'll call you now

She ends up calling me there so we exchanged numbers...

I leave immediately and head back to the original bar...

 

[Reyaj]

Ok so I'm back at the original bar just hanging out, waiting for my other friends to come back which they eventually do.

At this time, the HB 6 that shows high IL sees me and again engages me... with kino and convo. We end up dancing for a while as well. After a while she has to leave so she kisses me on the cheek

Its time to approach the last set of the night.... I see a set of 4 hanging out by the wall. These girls are Hb 6- 8.... I talk to my friends and they suggest I open it as usual. Well I go up to the hottest one and approach.. I open with saying I like her shirt.... then I go into my multiple thread routine. I find out she is from Portugal... so for some reason I lie on the spot saying I am too and I name a place. Suddenly she's like ohh my friend is from there soon and I end up talking to her friend while my friends switch up and talk to accordingly to the others.... I end up finding out the girl went to the same school as me.. and after some dialogue I say

Me: Anyway it was nice meeting it would be cool to talk more, can I give you a call
Her: (in a very nonchalant manner) yeah sure

I end up taking out my phone and getting her number...

Next I will post the follow up attempts I have made to these digits....


Bottom Line

Approaches 39
Numbers 28

 

[rushing dude 123]

well done man, it wasn't a good start, but ur really improving.


and i also wanted to ask how many of the 28 numbers u got flaked on u?



keep it up

 

[duke007]

Excellent work dude, keep those approaches coming till they're second nature.
However I think your number closes will work better after establishing more rapport with the girl.
In my opinion the approaches are way too rushed to be memorable...

 

[Reyaj]

well done man, it wasn't a good start, but ur really improving.


and i also wanted to ask how many of the 28 numbers u got flaked on u?



keep it up

A good amount..... what I meant to do was do a review of everything when I hit 25 approaches but everything has happend so fast that I will do that when I hit 50. To put it mildly, getting the number is only the first step in a possible seduction that takes other skills.

 

[Reyaj]

Excellent work dude, keep those approaches coming till they're second nature.
However I think your number closes will work better after establishing more rapport with the girl.
In my opinion the approaches are way too rushed to be memorable...

Its true..... however as **** as this probably sounds... at times I get bored so I want to # close and move on... Still you are probably right... I should build a little more rapport.... My goal of this is to just go for it though.... something that I never would have pictured myself doing prior...

 

[Reyaj]

Ok its been a while since I posted a recap. Thats what happens with so many plates are in motion.... well let me not get ahead of myself cause it seems like a lot are flakes....

Ok so the ones I nexted are pretty much nexted. I get a text from the fast close girl every once in a while. I called her for the heck of it last wedneday she answered and said she is going to be a shot girl at a popular bar. She then texted me the next day to come to a club she is going to. I didn't go... and as I said b4 she is nexted.. too much of a flake partier...

Ok so the girl that lives out of state........ I suggested we meet for coffee on Monday... she agreed but for some reason she didn't want to meet in her town and suggest we meet closer to me which I guess was cool. We ended up meeting a diner and got coffee.... I was confident basically looking her in the eye and takling... and she looked me in the eye as well and talked a lot.... I teased her about being rich... but after a while since I had to work early I told her I had to go... but during the date I suggested we meet for a movie or something.. and she said that would be fine. She was leaving back to school Saturday.

So the following day I didn't call her, nor did she call me. So on Wednesday I called her when I got out of work and she picked up. We talked for literally 2 minutes and her voice was very straight forward without much emotion. Then again though thats kind of how it was prior I suppose. Well I asked how her day was etc.. and then there was silence... so I'm like... "are you still up for going out" she was like "yea but today im meeting some friends for coffee" but I should have time the rest of the week" Well I told her that I had a poker tournament with friends over the next 2 days but asked her she was doing on Friday. She said Friday I think is good.... and then she's like oh wait Im so sorry I have a family dinner thing... I can't Friday.

I was like aw. but then she's like unless maybe later on... I'll let you know. I said cool let me know.

So Friday rolls around and at 3pm I text her "hey whats up"

She responds back pretty quick "not much you"

I respond back "are we going out later"

No response..........

So around 7 I text her back "all you had to say was no lol"

She responds back pretty fast "im sorry. im out to dinner with my father. ill call u when I get done"

So she calls about a half hour later.. I dont answer.... I call back a few minutes later. She tells me she is sorry she didnt respond to my text but that she has been busy getting ready for school and running errands she forgot. Then she's like unforuntately I cant make it to a movie tonight I have packing and things to finish up. So I'm like are you leaving early tomorrow? She's like actually Im not.. I have a 8pm flight but I need to spend time with my mom she gets really emotional when I leave. She's like I'm sorry but I'll be back before you know it. I chuckled and said I understand.... well keep in touch... send me a text once in a while and add me to facebook lol... she's like ohh you have a facebook I love that thing.... but anyway that was that.

So today I texted her "have a good flight" She responded back pretty quick "thanks Jayer keep in touch"


That was that..... Ok So lets go to the HB 7.5 chick . On Monday I decided to call her and she actually answered. She was off from work but doing errands.... we talked for a little bit.... and I think my confidence on the phone got her interest up. So I asked her when she wanted to go out and get hot chololate. She said she might get out of work on Thursday early.. but she would let me know.... ok Fine whatever.... So on Wednesday I texted her and she ended up calling me later... but since I was out I could only talk for a little bit. I asked her if we were still on for tomorrow and she said she'd let me know tomorrow cause she didn't know what time she could get out until she got there.

Ok so Thursday rolls around... I text her around 3:30pm and say "so what's it looking like"

No response..... I then text her a few hours later "Im going to head to the gym but I just want to see if we are still on for tonight"

She rsponds back quick this time "the other girl hasn't gotten here yet"

So a few hours later I call her.. no answer.... by this time its already late and I decide to make other plans.......

So around 9pm I got a text from her "hey i didnt know I was going to get out this late and im tired i just want to go to sleep. dont hate me"

So I respond back "i dont hate you but u could just have said u were getting out late"

She responds back "it was so busy i didnt get a chance until now sorry"

So I respond "well next time you will have to buy the hot chocolate then "

She responds "i will but i didnt know u were so cheap "

Well I respond the next day "who r u calling cheap, its the principle "

She responds back later on in the day "i was just kidding"

Well I just tried calling her a few hours ago and no answer.....

 

[Reyaj]

Ok so now the recap of the 4 numbers I got last week

The first girl who was the one wearing the hair piece..... the one that wanted to give me her screen name instead of the number. I called her on Monday... no answer. I did a follow up text saying it was me that we met.. and no answer. I called her again 2 days later... and no answer. I texted her "you're mean lol"

She responded "I'm in class"

She never called back or anytthing...

Her IL is clearly low or maybe she has a boyfriend. Maybe I'll text her that she's fat.... but no... I shouldn't do that right.. lol I just hate stuck up broads especially when they aren't even all that.

So the next girl is the swedish girl. I call her on Monday and she is all surprised but happy that I called. She was like "you left so quick.. I thought u and your friends had a contest on who can get the most numbers"

Well anyway we chatted and she had to go cause her phone died. She texted me saying her phone died but to call her again sometime. I called her 2 days later.... we talked and I suggest meeting up for coffee sometime. She agreed and said she was busy Friday.. but that we could figure something out over the weekend. Well I called her today and she answered but was at the mall saying she was gong out with her friends tonight. I asked when a good time to get together would be and she didnt know but asked if she could call me back since she was at the mall. I said sure. She hasn't called me back though. This girl is 21 by the way... the same ago most of the girls I've picked up seem to be. A lot younger than me.....

Ok the next girl which was the one that all over me.... she had been texting and calling since the day we met. I met her up for a date on Tuesday.... and unfortunately she was like an low end HB 5 and I just wasn't attracted to her at all. I took her for ice cream.... and I basically tried to talk to her... but acted tired so that I had to go. At the end she wanted me to kiss her it was so obvious but I kissed her on the cheek and said I had to go home cause I didn't feel good.

She called and texted me the day.. found my MySpace, and IM and I basically tried AFCing myself to lower her interest. She still calls and texts me though....


Ok so now for the next chick... which was girl that lives within the city itself. The one I approached when the brazilian girl was stupid.

Well for some reason the next day for the hell of it I texted her "it was nice meeting you"

She responds back pretty quick "you as well. I'm glad you had the balls to come up to me lol"


Well I don't text back.....

The next evening I call her and there is no answer. I then get a text from her an hour later "hey I saw that u called. Im sorry but my voice is gone from work today... can I call u tomorrow"

I text back saying sure.

Then the next day we trade a few text messages. I have something to do at night so I called her that evening and she didn't answer. I texted her saying I called her cause I wasnt going to be around... and she called me right back and talked my ear off....

This girl is a talker... doesnt let you get a word in..... but anyway I told her I had to go but I'd talk to her tomorrow.

She sent a text afterwards and the next day... and etc... we ended up making plans for tomorrow... she suggests brunch....... but oculdn't do it today cause she has to watch the Charger game... which she mistakenly thought played. She also mentioned she had been seeing this guy she met before me but found out he is engaged. She wanted to let me know though and felt she had to tell me... so ok possible other dude here.. whatever

The Portuguese girl... I called her on Monday but she didn't answer. The next day I texted her "hey its jayer we met saturday etc.."

She texted me back pretty quick saying "hi, I saw that you called several hours later"

We texted a few messages back and forth I end up calling her Wednesday and talking to her for a bit. I built some nice rapport... teased her a bit... I told her I had to go cause I was on my way out but that I'd call her soon

I didn't talk to her the next day... the following day I texted her asking what she had for lunch and she texted me back "im sorry i cant talk now im at the hospital with my father"

I texted back saying I hoped everything was ok and then later that her family was in my prayers. She texted me back saying I was sweet and thank you.

Well I called her today and she didn't answer. I didn't leave a message or anything. She called me back a few hours later and we talk for a bit. I suggested we have coffee and she said that was a good idea. I wll try and plan it with her this week.. I did find this girl's myspace page and she seems like a frequent clubber and go outer. She is 22

Also while I was typing this field report..... the fast close girl texted me "why were you a no show on thursday"

This was referring to the club she told me she was going to be at on Thursday. Aside from the fact that I had other plans, meeting a girl in a club for a follow up usually isn't the best. I like to get them in social environments 1 on 1 or in small groups.

 

[Reyaj]

Ok just a few more notes.

So I ended up going out with what I thought was an HB 5 that I fast closed like a month a go. A girl I kinda of text and talk to in im once in a while. Just for sport, I had her and a friend meet a diner restaurant. I hugged her when I saw her. We basically all sat around for a couple of hours talking..... they never mentioned wanting to leave but she didn't hold much eye contact with me. When we left I hugged her and kissed her on the cheek. I asked when she was going back to school and she said next week so we should do something. I told her that her school isnt super far either it doesnt matter. I hugged her and she hugged me with 2 arms not necesarily tight....

So anyway I didn't call or text the next nor did she. Well on saturday I got a text from her that said something like "hey i had a good time with you the other night we should do it again"

Well I ended up calling her.... she didn't answer. I texted her back "that would be good if you ever answer your phone lol" She called back and I didn't answer cause I wsnt by my phone and then she texted back saying "you too lol"

I tried her a little later but no answer. I texted her "phone tag" and she texted back later "you always call when i cant pick up lol"

Well today she calls me.... and I was sleeping so I didnt answer. She left me a voice mail saying to call her back if I want. I call her back and we talk. We have plans for Tuesday. Now there are a few potential issues here. She is only 21.... again a lot younger than me.... plus I lied about where Im from since Im actually from her hometown and i didnt know she knew anything about my rep..... I shouldnt have lied but Im into deep to it now so I'll see how I play it off.

I had my brunch date today with the big city girl..... we met in front of the place, I hugged her. We sat down... she made eye contact when talking to me... she talks a lot and I basically atentively listened while answering back when prompted. Since we were sitting across from each other there wasnt much chance for Kino. I did notice after a while she sat back in her seat creating distance from me.... not sure if that was a bad sign or not..... But anyway on the way out she walked with me to my car as she had plans to meet her friends and watch football in another bar on the way.

I hugged her, and she gave me a 2 handed hug, though not particularly tight or anything. I then kissed her on the cheek. She said she may text me later and I said I hope you do.

So she texts me 10 minutes later saying something about the footbal game... since she's a big charger fan. I responded back "nice. btw you looked very pretty"

She responded after a while "haha ur too sweet! thank u. btw this game is the ****"


She sent a few texts more about the games etc... and that was about it..... I don't know if she's really my type... but as this is just a study/experiment I may follow up... though I don't know what her IL is exactly....

Ok and finally the swedish girl did text me around midnight last night "sorry i didnt call u back. me and my friends are going to this bar in your town around5ish u should come"

Well I responded back around 5ish today "sorry im actually with family.. we should plan something during the week, all of us?"

She never responded.

I just texted her a while ago "ya know just cause i took a while to respond doesn't mean you have to "

 

[Stéphane]

Seriously dude, I have mad respect for you, but you should stop texting. Call them, and get straight to the point. I kind of think that your complimenting those girls too much. I never compliment a girl, unless she deserves it. Like your getting lots of numbers, and doing a lot of approaches, but from my experience most girls will give out there numbers if you ask for it.

I think there attracted in you, but there not really interested. You need to create better sexual tension. Women love sex, they just won't admit to it. They don't want to be looked down has a slvt, that's why you need to isolate them, and get them horny.

 

[Reyaj]

Seriously dude, I have mad respect for you, but you should stop texting. Call them, and get straight to the point. I kind of think that your complimenting those girls too much. I never compliment a girl, unless she deserves it. Like your getting lots of numbers, and doing a lot of approaches, but from my experience most girls will give out there numbers if you ask for it.

I think there attracted in you, but there not really interested. You need to create better sexual tension. Women love sex, they just won't admit to it. They don't want to be looked down has a slvt, that's why you need to isolate them, and get them horny.

I agree man but you have to trust me that a lot of times they don't answer the phone, but the text back right away. Its very weird. But how do you propose I create better sexual tension? Any tips you can spare are appreciated.


Oh I also found out that the girl I met that goes to school out of state actually ended up going out with her friends Friday night..... I saw it on her facebook page..... She is very popular... and she did mention her friends wanted to see her. Should I feel bad she choose her friends over me? I guess I didn't do a good job djing her......... She is a real popular girl anyways...... I wonder if I should have been more AFC instead of trying to play it off cool like I didn't give a F

I haven't gotten anymore texts from the big city girl either...... Maybe I'll reach out tomorrow.

 

[mostwantedbabyfather]

Good thread Jayer keep up the work .

 

[Stéphane]

Jayer read this to create much better sexual tension, it completly changed my game. http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=46286
It's the Gunwitch method.

 

[Reyaj]

Ok just some quick updates.....


The big city girl. I called her yesterday and there was no answer. She didn't call right back, so I texted her a little bit later "ouch lol"

She responded fast "what? im on the other line still at work"

I did not text back.

About a half hour later she texts me again "?? hello haha"

I don't respond.

I get another text from her later on saying "just leaving office now. call ya back when i get home! i'm wipred out"

Well she doesn't call and I'm busy on a date with another girl anyway.... when I am done I text her "hey I was busy doing something can I call you tomorrow"

She texts back " sounds good. Sorry ive been mia. Been pulling late hours at the office. Clearly the holiday hours aren't over. I havent even checked my voice mail in days"



Well today I text her asking her if she likes bagels and she texts me back pretty quick saying she only eats them on Sunday.

I texted her if she's coming out by where we went out last time this weekend (she hangs out there a lot) and she texts me back "no, im meeting my best friend on Friday who is coming in from out of state. he and I are going to go party in the city here. Then on Saturday I have a sorrority get together with my old sisters, its a busy weekend"

I texted her "what about sunday lol"

She responded "probably watching football at the same place i went after we went out"

I texted back "thats cool. let me know if you do, me and my friend will stop by"

She didn't respond.

I then texted back "or not.... lol"

No response


I then texted her a little later "wow I would have never pegged you for being stuck up, kind of comical actually"

Well she responds a little while later with a text "whhhhhat? did u just call me stuck up? what makes u say that??? omg! "

I didn't respond.

She then tries calling me a few minutes later but I don't answer.

I text her back saying I'm at work but I'll call her afterwards

She texts me "wait! I;m confused!! what comment made u think im stuck up! im offended "


So I may or may not call her after work today.... even though she is pretty hot (her body anyway) her personality is very high energy and weird... that I don't really care what happens. This is all for experiment. So maybe I'll not call her and see if it bothers her at all.....

 

[Reyaj]

Ok now for the HB 5 that I thought was a 6 but now that I went out with her last night she was back at like a 5 status.....

She suggested going out to eat so we went to the macaroni grill. She said I could pick her up or we could meet... and I told her if she comfortable I'd pick her up it was up to her. She liked that idea so she gave me her address and I did that.

I kissed her on the cheek when she came in my car. We talked for a bit and when we got to the restaurant... she all of a sudden said "so Jayer we both don't know a lot about each other.... I think we should talk"

I was like ok what would you like to know.... so some basic questions came out etc..... middle names, family, hobbies etc... She is a real simple girl in her last semester of college... and actually admitted to liking beer though she didn't brag about partying like a lot of other younger girls I've been out with do!

So we ate... I wasn't shy about eating nor was she..... the bill came and she reached into her pocket book but I told her thats ok I got it.... she's like "really are you sure" and i'm like yeah its no big deal

She quickly let me pay and didn't protest. She thanked me though afterwards..... Now unfortuantely I really didn't have a lot of chance to kino... but we went to my car..... she then was like "so where to now..."

I was like "up to you...." She said we could go to a starbucks and get coffee..... I agreed and we went....

Well we both ordered and she tenatively reached into her purse saying I guess I could get this one.... I was like "thats ok I got it" She's like really are you sure... and I was like yeah, so she quickly put her money away and let me pay.

Now I'm obviously an idiot here...... I was just being a gentleman, especially with the coffee and expected her to be adamant about paying as some girls are.... but no I foolishly paid.. and it was basically about a $50 dollar night

Anyway they closed the starbucks early as we got there and I drove her home. I pulled in her driveway. She started grabbing her purse and coffee slowly we then looked at each other and she said thanks for everyhting. I leaned in and she kind of puckered up and I touched her lips with mine.... but before I had a chance to open my mouth and start tonguing she moved away and hugged me tight.....

I'm thinking like what the hell happend... but I hugged her back. I pulled back and went back in for the kiss again.... and we started kissing... It was very soft and "nice" for lack of a better word... but with tongue of course.

I actually just got a text message from her minutes ago reading

"hey! i hope you had a good time last night.. i know I did i hope we can meet up again before I go back to school"


Thats that....



The Portuguese girl... well she finally texted me late last night saying "sorry I've been mia, been extremelty busy"

I texted her back "hey just glad everything is ok. call me when you can "


and thats that.....

 

[LegendaryGame]

Jayer,

This thread has been entertaining and an inspiration i'm sure to those who are scared of women plain and simple. It's good that despite how long it took you to get to these approaches you did and life is moving forwards for you man. As far as the girl u took to starbucks and macaronigrill I think you did well. Paying for the first date may set you back, but don't let it be a habit. Perhaps next time let her take the tab.

Throughout your approaches i see some recurring themes that can hurt you somewhat. The first key is to never ask a girl a question when you want something. Whether its sex a kiss, dance, or a number. IF you take control the girl will see and she will submit. If she doesnt submit to a phone number or a dance chances are she'll be troublesome news anyway.

Secondly, Don't constantly seem like you're begging such as the girl you texted about bagels. If a girl seems busy or uninterested even the slightest, immediately pull away and say alright have a good one or something to that effect. The skill here is to show that you are not desperate and she is the one losing not you.

Lastly, don't stay on 1 chick too long if it just isnt flowing properly. That is what one has to learn through age, you will see that wasting time with even 1 girl for a week or so is too long since you'll miss out on other opportunities. If a girl is leaving in 2 days and is saying shes busy like school just get the nummber and call a few times thats it, no need in slaving to take her out.

All in all good stuff jayer, really good thread and you got ballls for continuing and planning to meet your 100 approaches. whats the count by the way?

 

[Reyaj]

Jayer read this to create much better sexual tension, it completly changed my game. http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=46286
It's the Gunwitch method.

Stephane I can't believe I just read that whole thing...... I see that this thread gets a lot of praise and many think it should be their DJ Bible.....

Here is basically his recap

RECAP:

This isn’t rocket science. That’s why it can be understood and adapted to various situations.

Look YOUR best, see lone wolf, realize she loves sex, get sexually turned on for her, approach her in sexual state, convey sexual state to her, get to know her while in sexual state, watch for her sexual state, isolate.

Or even easier to remember, 1. be sexual, 2. watch for her sexual state, 3. isolate. Those 3 things are all I take out into the field at a conscious level. The rest has to be filled in to each specific encounter and takes a little practice and time to get ingrained into you. I have seen it work the first run out, by a ****ed up looking guy. “Paralysis by analysis” can be deadly to the willpower, so get on the ball, stop reading and take those 3 phrases, inside your head, out in the field with you and get laid.

And remember "make the ho say no".




I think the points I agree with and get out of this based on my experience... is yes when you want sex you should be a man about it... and get into that sexual state... make the woman resist you... don't resist yourself which I what I used to do in the past.

But unfortunately this guy makes it sound like its so easy to have ONS and get sex early.... but if the logistics aren't there (you don't live alone, niether does she... etc..) it is very difficult

Seduction is a lot more complex that feeling sexual and just going for it.... not to mention the fact that he makes it sound like girls that are by themselves are more willing to have sex right away just not true in reality.

This guy like many others is just a keyboard jockey imho or really does live in a fantasy world where having sex with girls is just that fast and easy.

Jayer,

This thread has been entertaining and an inspiration i'm sure to those who are scared of women plain and simple. It's good that despite how long it took you to get to these approaches you did and life is moving forwards for you man. As far as the girl u took to starbucks and macaronigrill I think you did well. Paying for the first date may set you back, but don't let it be a habit. Perhaps next time let her take the tab.

Throughout your approaches i see some recurring themes that can hurt you somewhat. The first key is to never ask a girl a question when you want something. Whether its sex a kiss, dance, or a number. IF you take control the girl will see and she will submit. If she doesnt submit to a phone number or a dance chances are she'll be troublesome news anyway.

Secondly, Don't constantly seem like you're begging such as the girl you texted about bagels. If a girl seems busy or uninterested even the slightest, immediately pull away and say alright have a good one or something to that effect. The skill here is to show that you are not desperate and she is the one losing not you.

Lastly, don't stay on 1 chick too long if it just isnt flowing properly. That is what one has to learn through age, you will see that wasting time with even 1 girl for a week or so is too long since you'll miss out on other opportunities. If a girl is leaving in 2 days and is saying shes busy like school just get the nummber and call a few times thats it, no need in slaving to take her out.

All in all good stuff jayer, really good thread and you got ballls for continuing and planning to meet your 100 approaches. whats the count by the way?

Thank you so much for the support. I love reading messages like yours for feed back and inspiration to keep doing what I'm doing. I agree about staying on 1 chick too long. What's astonishng is that I'm almost at the point where I can really do my picking and choosing of what girls I do want to invest time in rather than just taking whats there. One thing I've learned though is that sometimes patience turns out favorable. If anything pans out with some of these flaky girls because of my patience I'll definitely post it.

The DJ mentality here is if she flakes to move on.... I agree to a point... and I certainly am always looking at more plates to spin. Still, checking back with flaky plates from time to time via phone call/text message doesn't really take much.

But either way all my results and actions are going to be logged here.

I'm currently at 39 approaches.

 

[Reyaj]

Just some more updates while I can think of them.

So I finally got to see the HB 7.5 arabian chick that works all time on Wednesday. Since she's been flaky, I did something kind of ballsy by going into her restaurant with my friend and ordering pizza. I basically told her I'd be coming in around an approximate time. When I saw her, she recognized me, and I kissed her on the cheek. I basically sat down and she served both me and my friend and made small talk here and there. At the end I may have messed up a little as my shyness and apprehensivness resurfaced. I asked her how much for the food and drink and she's like... just give me 4 bucks.

So I reached into my pocket and handed her a 5. I stared at her for a little too long and she though I wanted change.... she was like "um ok I'll get you change" I looked back at my friend who was on the phone..... then I looked at her and I was like "oh no don't worry about it...." She sort of made distance between us but I was like "ok well we have to get to a poker game" I then moved in and kissed her on the cheek. I said "you owe me hot chocoloate" and smiled. She said in a very fast voice "yeah we'll get together"

and that was that.....


So the big city girl.... well the same night she tried calling and texting me... really hung up on the fact that I called her stuck up. I called her back finally and she was on the phone with her sister. She called me back and started talking and talking and talking.... not even mentioning that I called her stuck up

I decided for grins and giggles to bring it up. So I was like "did you like that comment i sent" all of a sudden she's like yeah waht the f was up with that blah blah

I played it off like I was kidding but I said cause she didn't respond to the texts. She was like what texts... I didn't get them... she's like that happens sometimes cause I'm on my phone too much. I told her I'd call her back when I got home.. and she said she was going to look through her phone for the texts. A little while later she texted me back saying "sorry you are right, I would love for you to come by if you're in the area" etc...

I didn't call her back that day, then texted her the next day which was yesterday saying I passed out when I got home. We traded some usual texts througout the day. Later on when I was out of work, she texted me "i wish the weather wasn't so crappy and u didnt live so far, cause I'd so be down for a movie"

I texted her back saying we should do it that sometime... and she responded later off subject.

Today I didn't hear from her, I texted her "just seeing if you have a pulse lol"

She responded back "barely... I drank so much last night I ruined my day today"

I texted her "we should definitely get drinks and movie sometime soon"

After a while she texted me "im not going to drink for a while but a movie with you sounds nice "

That was pretty much that.


So I did call and set up a follow up date with macaroni grill girl for Sunday.

Portuguese girl called me on Wednesday night... and she seems popular and busy... but I told her to let me know when she was free for coffee and hopefully my schedule may accomodate.

Thats a wrap for now....

We'll see if the weekend brings more progress and more approaches!

Stay tuned!