Jayer's 100 Approach Journal (Will Finish 100 approaches no matter what)

[Reyaj]

Ok hopefully you all can advise me with my above situation. But I wanted to post my progress with the HB 7 I met on Saturday. The 17th number I have pulled

Ok so on Monday I get a text around 7pm from her. "hey... so I only get 1 lousy text message, interesting..."

Well I call her back but she was in class.... but we end up talking later for like 40 minutes. She says some interesting things like "I dont play games" but then says she doesnt answer the phone on purpose sometimes.... I then made probably a mistake but I asked her "so why are you single"

obviously this brought up the ex conversation and how he didn't appreciate her and didn't supplicate basically and she broke it off with him.

This prompts me to my question: THE DJ method says to not give a lot of attention and use DHV. However since this girl clearly says her ex didn't do this.... would giving her nice attention seduce her?

Well anyways I called her yesterday but she didnt answer and I sent her a text saying I was going to sleep. She texted me a little bit later saying "Im a little disappointed i missed your call. Ill talk to you tomorrow I guess"

Well today she called me earlier and I answered and told her I'd call her back since I was at work. I'm going to try and set up a date I hope.

 

[saber]

I like your journal...big time follow through on your part.

I noticed that the hb7 you wen't out with seemed to lose IL AFTER you didn't go to the party and mentioning the sleep over was a gauranteed lay imo
but you definately had her

one question though...you are getting a lot of numbers and thats the same situation I found myself in when I started sarging but with too many flakes and low IL as well...have you tried the shock and awe method?

I have been working on trying to move past casual conversation with this method before I ask for the number to reduce flaking but it's difficult

also what are some general convo topics you use? Ive noticed that if I don't steer away from interview questions and use lighthearted/fun/seemingly pointless banter the interaction takes a nose dive..im curious as to what you thoughts are

 

[Reyaj]

I like your journal...big time follow through on your part.

I noticed that the hb7 you wen't out with seemed to lose IL AFTER you didn't go to the party and mentioning the sleep over was a gauranteed lay imo
but you definately had her

one question though...you are getting a lot of numbers and thats the same situation I found myself in when I started sarging but with too many flakes and low IL as well...have you tried the shock and awe method?

I have been working on trying to move past casual conversation with this method before I ask for the number to reduce flaking but it's difficult

also what are some general convo topics you use? Ive noticed that if I don't steer away from interview questions and use lighthearted/fun/seemingly pointless banter the interaction takes a nose dive..im curious as to what you thoughts are

Yeah you are probably right about the HB 7. Although I don't know if the getting laid was a given. She said I could sleep at her brothers or her parents house in the guest room. Thats far from gauranteed to me.

Anyways I never heard of the shock and awe.... explain if you don't mind.

I do usually do the same conversation about general topics... but I think my problem is escalating to sex when I go out with these girls as opposed to getting the digits.

Still any advice you have I am all ears! thanx!

 

[saber]

I can't seem to find the article but im sure you could if you looked around but it's basically a method of escalating with the single mindset of a same night lay... I think that going for the snl and getting a number when you are sure you are not getting it could eliminate the flakes.

 

[Reyaj]

Yeah I'm not just after SNL.... as I think you are taking a risk with girls that are into that stuff anyway. I don't mind working a little for the lay... as long as I do eventually get it that is.

I have a very interesting update from yesterday btw!

 

[Reyaj]

Ok time for an update on the girls I've number closed. I am sorry I am not always able to log in here and update quickly. Aside from my regular life the girls themselves do take up some of my time lol... Ok but no seriously I will try to be as accurate as possible since some time has passed.

Ok with HB 7 that was flaking on me because I didn't go to her brothers party that time. As I said she had stop texting me as frequently as she had been and I felt she was losing IL. As a gamble I added her to my Myspace where I have a bit of social proof hoping that it could spark an interest. Well ok that was all posted above. On thursday she sends me a text saying "hey are you working later tonight" I responded back "yeah I am why"

She texts me "oh well my parents are going to be out of the house for a bit and I was going to ask if you wanted to come over. Its ok though next time."

Well I have to be honest fellow DJs. I was very surprised to get this text considering I really thought her IL was faded beyond 50%..... but anyway one thing I have learned through my own trials and tribulations.... don't let opportunity pass you by. Well I texted her back and said "well I won't be busy all night maybe I could stop by" She responded "ok well let me know"

Well basically I asked her if 8:30 would be ok and she said thats fine but to call her on my way over. Well when I called her to get directions to her house she said one thing that really put a hamper on my game! "hey listen I have to pick my parents up at 10:00, is that ok?" What was I going to say..... I said sure no problem..... but I knew I only had an hour and a half to work with if that..... She also mentions she has been drinking wine and is drunk.....

Ok now I'm going to tell you what happend when I went there. And before anyone gets excited.... I did not get laid...... You all are probably going to kill me for not taking advantage of this opportunity but you have to trust what I'm saying here as far as what the environment is like.

So I get to her door and she lets me in. She doesn't even lean in for a kiss or anything and immediately says "hey I'm watching im tv show I hope you don't mind" and started walking towards her couch and tv room. I followed her and took a seat on the couch. She sat down on the couch foot rest in front of me and wasn't really showing high IL.......

So anyway I was getting a little annoyed so I was like "can't you watch this some other time" I said it kinda playfully though and she ended up giving in and changing the channel. She eventually sat up next to me but kept her distance..... and said her and her friend were going out later after she picked up her parents...

I stayed relaxed.... just watched the tv a bit.... she then started texting her friend on her phone and even called her and made me talk to her. She then asked me to come out with them later..... and really seemed like she sincerely wanted to go as she almost begged when I told her I couldn't because I had to work. Well anyway I tried where possible to iniaite some Kino. I would try rubbing her arm when talking to her etc... Well basically time has been going by and its already like 9:40.... knowing that she has to leave in 20 minutes I already decided that I'm not going to get some so I might as well not even think about it.

Well suddenly she is like "hey do you want to see my room" I am like "sure"

We went upstairs... and she shows me her room. She sits down on her bed and I take some initiaitive here and sit down next to her. So we are talking she says I smell good and starts smelling my collar. I start smelling her and we end up kinda of holding each other. I go in for a kiss and the make out session begins...... I slowly start applying my energy towards her and she ends up calling back and I get on top. I start sucking on her neck... moving my hands around. She starts playing up my shirt and under waist. We are sort of grinding... well I realize that she has to leave soon so I figured I would play it cool and I eased up smoothly. A minute later the phone rang and it was her mom saying they were ready to be picked up (now I know she wasn't lieing about it)

Well she still asks if I would come out drinking with her and her friend and I say to call me. Well she texts me after she picks her parents up and I respond the next day telling her I feel asleep. Well she doesn't text me all day friday.

On Saturday I send her a random text "xoxoxo"

She responds a little later "right back at ya... how was your night"

I basically texted her back saying I might be going out tonight with my friends and she says she might also. Yesterday which was Sunday she texts me with a dirty joke and that was about it...

I think I may call her today. The problem is she hinted at coming over my place and I dont live by myself. I dont know how I'm going to end up bedding this girl without the environment cause she doesn't seem up for having sex in the car lol.......

I feel good though because I honestly don't care what happens with this girl or the others or even the next for that matters. It's all a game and I'm having fun playing and learning even though it results in blue balls from time to time

 

[Reyaj]

Ok now for the HB 7 I met at the big club last saturday... the one I saw dancing with another guy but I still was able to pull her number later on. I don't know if I mentioned this or not but last Monday 2 days after meeting her she texted me out of nowhere "so all I get is a lousy text message" well from there I called her we talked for a while on the phone. I learned that she so called "doesnt play games" and she also said that she broke up with her because he was too much of her friend and didn't say "nice things, compliment"...... so I don't know..... I don't know if I should try to show her these things... or stick to the DJ philosophy....

But anyways..... so we jokingly argue about who will call each other the next day which is Tuesday. She tells me to call her and I tell her to call me. She said she might text me etc... So I end up texting her on Tuesday first just saying something random. She responds pretty quickly. I end up calling her later but she doesn't answer. I text her "I tried calling but I'm really tired we can talk tommorrow if youd like" She responds a little while later "oh ok I understand. This might sound gay but I'm a little disappointed I missed your call"

Well she calls me the next day during lunch and I tell her Ill call her back. I end up talking to her later and I say "so when am I going to get to see you" she responds "well when do you want to" we end up making plans for Friday.

Well on Thursday she sends me a random text "hey im mad at you i hope you know"

So i respond pretty quickly "huh? why"

She texts me back "cause you area making me smile so much my jaw hurts"

I respond telling her she is pretty smooth with the lines and I don't hear from her for the rest of the day.

So Friday rolls around and I don't hear from her for a while. So I text her "so are we still on for tonight" she texts me back "i guesssss if i really have to " I am finding out this girl is very sarcastic and playful....

Well anyway we decide to meet in San Fran at a popular point of the city. I was late because I could not find parking and finally I just paid a garage. I ended up meeting her in a store. We hugged each other and I kissed her on the cheek. She then took me to her car and we went to get some coffee. I was being very playful a lot of c&f..... we were talking to each a lot so that seemed to go well. We got to the coffee place and ordered some dessert as well which we split. The conversation was going well and we got pretty personal with each other. Well after we finished we got the check and I offered to pay immediately... She asked me if I was sure and I said yea it was no problem. It was like 20 bucks......

So anyway she's like lets go take a picture somewhere.... I got talked into it so she found parking and we ended up going outside and taking a picture. I said we should take one together so we did and she tilted my head so I was closer to her while I had my arm around her.

Now unforunately at this time my stomach started really hurting...... so my game was impaired.... We walked around for a little bit. I tried touching her arm or shoulder when possible but my kino game just wasn't really there... and I'll admit it... I was a little shy and felt a little afcish for some reason. But I got myself together and tried as hard as I could to keep myself from ****ting my pants..

She dropped me off at my car and honestly at this point I'm thinking I afc'd myself out.... but we look at each and she said "well I had a great time" I said "me too" and I went in and hugged her.... I was thinking kiss close but she put her cheek right out so that I couldn't miss it.... I kissed her on the cheek and pulled back. I was still thinking kiss close..... but I kept hesitating. I said I'll talk to you soon I guess.... and she was like "dont say that... call me.... just not tonight though cause its late" I told her to text me when she got home and she said for me to text her. looking at her when she finally said jokingly "get the f out of my car already"

Well based on that last line I felt I didn't go very well and that was about it. Well since this whole thing is just an experiment I figured I'd just try something out there again and I added her to my myspace page. She texts me "so is this an upgrade or a downgrade lol"

Well I don't respond.... and she actually left me a myspace comment. It was a sarcastic comment of course..... nothing sweet but still. Then she called me but I didnt answer. I called her back and we talked for like 10 minutes and I told her the truth about Friday and my stomach... she said she knew that and was cool about it.

I texted her today saying good moring and she responded back saying "why do my texts make her giddy"

She called me during lunch and we talked for a mintue. I used c&F and she did the same.

I hope this isn't deja vu.....her being sarcastic and c&f like the expensive dinner chick....

 

[Ever onward]

Dude this chick sounds like a player. I could be wrong but I'd be cautious. The reason I say she sounds like a player is because she is saying all these things to you "you've made me giddy" or "my jaw hurts because you make me smile so much". That's pretty strong flattery, and no offense man, but you haven't earned that kind of praise (yet) with just a few phone calls and texts. That was before your date I mean.

Be cautious.

 

[Reyaj]

Dude this chick sounds like a player. I could be wrong but I'd be cautious. The reason I say she sounds like a player is because she is saying all these things to you "you've made me giddy" or "my jaw hurts because you make me smile so much". That's pretty strong flattery, and no offense man, but you haven't earned that kind of praise (yet) with just a few phone calls and texts. That was before your date I mean.

Be cautious.

Yeah it could be that or she might be just clingy... I guess we'll see. But yeah I'm definitely keeping my guard up.... I learned from that experience with the expensive dinner chick that I shouldn't let myself get oneitis or attached. She texted me today out of the blue and said "hope you have a good day sweets"

I responded back saying "thanks doll you too"


Ok but anyway a real quick update on the few other chicks I got numbers from. Not that there's much to report.

The HB 5 that I approached for the hell of it...... I told her last week I'd call her and I never did. I sent her an im yesterday saying I've been real busy but haven't forgotten about her. I haven't heard any response.

The HB 8 that never called me back.... I texted her a few times periodically.... one time I said "just cause you are pretty doesn't mean you can't call a guy" She actually responded saying "sorry I've been busy..." I texted back "call me later I have something interesting to tell you" She texted back saying "ok sweetie"

She never called..... So just for the hell of it I texted her again over the weekend asking if she had a myspace account. THere was no response. Yesterday I texted her "Well I guess you aren't going to be added to my friends list "

Basically this HB 8 is used to guys flowering her with attention. It might sound like I was doing the same thing... but I text her sparingly. Ignoring her didn't get her to call me so I figure I'll amuse myself with random texts every now and again. After all this is all an experiment. Her IL in me must have been low to begin with. She must get all kinds of calls from guys and probably has a steady F Buddy Biker dude lol...

 

[Reyaj]

oh and I have this HB 4 I texted when I was drunk texting and calling me now... I have no interest in this girl at all..... not sure if I should even add her to myspace.... as she keeps asking...

 

[Stéphane]

Girls are like the stock market I guess man. Don't get attached to your stock and just use analyziation to determine whether to hold to sell them.

Dude, you know nothing about the stock market, and this proves it..

 

[Reyaj]

Dude, you know nothing about the stock market, and this proves it..

Thats actually conventional wisdom by active investors. Sorry I didn't realize you were Warren Buffett.

 

[Stéphane]

Thats actually conventional wisdom by active investors. Sorry I didn't realize you were Warren Buffett.

Maybe, you didn't realise that i'm studying too become a financial planner and i'm finishing this year with 3 courses out of the 4 to become a CFP. Maybe, you also didn't realise that it's proven if you time the market you will lose money in the long run, but you might win short term (like the lotery). It's also proven that the best strategy is to buy and hold, and you will always make money in the long run. (10 years or more)

 

[Microphone Fiend]

nice to see you makin some progress here of late after a real slow start, lol. Keep it up and also i think you should keep lookin for new girls if the others fall through.

Also, Im with ever-onward here. This chick does not seem genuinely interested. The comments she makes just sound so forced or silly, stuff like

This might sound gay but I'm a little disappointed I missed your call

and

Why do your texts make me so giddy

are a little questionable if you as me. Proceed with caution I say...

 

[Reyaj]

nice to see you makin some progress here of late after a real slow start, lol. Keep it up and also i think you should keep lookin for new girls if the others fall through.

Also, Im with ever-onward here. This chick does not seem genuinely interested. The comments she makes just sound so forced or silly, stuff like and

are a little questionable if you as me. Proceed with caution I say...

Yeah I mean.... I think I honestly may have gone a little overboard with the c&f as most of the time when we text or talk on the phone we are always teasing each other. Here's a few other comments you might say to proceed with caution with.

The other day she texted me

"you know my morning is not complete unless I get a good morning text from you"

She also referenced "not getting any play from me" which makes me think she may have wanted to kiss when I went out with her. Still the fact that she turned her cheek to me right away when I said goodbye to her and even eventually said to "get the f out of her car (jokingly)" made me think she didn't want this.

I could be missing obvious signals here......

Its funny that this girl says she doesn't play games but I really got into some battles with her already. The other night she texted me something and I texted her back "how about you call me once in a while"

she responded "well i would love to call u but i dont want to seem all over you"

Boom right there that shows she plays games.... Well I responded back

"well since you don't play games that shouldn't be a problem "

She responded

"ah ok well I'm watching my favorite tv show Ill call you when its over"

I responded

"I suggest you call me on a commercial break because I'm not going to be home"

She responds

"you arent going to be home now? you are playing games!"


So I didn't respond and she calls me a few minutes later. I was actually in my car driving so I wasn't lieing or playing games ad she indicated. Well anyway after some chat she's like "ok well the commercial break is over and this is the last part of the show, I'll call you back in a few mins I have to watch this"

I was like

"oh really....... I would think long and hard about hitting that end button on your cell...."


She was like "ohhh so you are threatning me now.... this is not fair I really like this show..."

I was like "well I'm on my way out so I don't know when I'll be able to talk to you.... if you're show is more important than talking to me you take that chance...."


She was frustrated and I didn't know whether she was going to hang up or not........ but she decided not too... and basically tuned into the show while I was on the phone. So I guess we compromised.


Now I wonder if you all are going to praise or criticise the way I handled that situation. The truth is had she hung up with me to watch the show... I wouldn't have answered when she called back.




But anyways I have a movie date with her tonight..... We will see how it goes.



In the meantime HB 7 has been going out a lot and I haven't seen her. I talked to her briefly yesterday and she mentioned how she went out yesterday to a bar and had a lot of fun..... I'm sure she met some guy but I'm not going to pry.

I am supposed to hang with her Saturday. If I had my own place I would be bedding her.... because I have let it drag on... I don't know if I will get some from her after all.


Stay tuned for the next report.... and yes MF I definitely have to get out there and do more approaches.

 

[Reyaj]

Ok big update here.... I basically nexted the recent HB 7 well ok I CLEARLY nexted her. I am going to post the results of what happend you all be the judge here....

So Friday we have a date. We talk on the phone before hand and decide to go see a movie. Since she lives an hour away and is driving to come see me she says "you better take me to a nice theater jokingly...." Well I told her I know of a nice theater thats a little drive but its nice. She agrees. Well anyway we decide that she would park her car nearby and I would pick her up. Now I wasn't sure how soon she would get there... but I ended up running 10 minutes or so late.... She gives me a little bit of an attitude on the phone how its cold... and I didn't plan well..... She caught me off guard with it... but then she said dont worry I'm joking... just hurry up ok....


Ok whatever..... so I finally get there and pick her up. I have a good idea where this theater is so I start driving fast to get there since I don't want to miss the movie.... Well she starts complaining about how she is dizzy and opens the window.... Well it took a while to get there but finally we arrive at the movie theater.

It turns out the movie we want to see is sold out for 11:40pm at night..... The next show is as at 12:40am..... I asked if she wanted to see that one and she's like "wellll I mean I have to drive home remember.... I would get back like 4 in the morning we should probably do something else"

So anyways.... she mentions that we could get a drink somewhere and I'm like thats fine..... We end up going to a Fridays place..... and then when the waitress takes her order she gets a regular "iced tea"

Well I was like "I thought you were going to get a real drink" She's like "nah I have to drive and I have work tomorrow"

Now keep in mind I always hear stories of how this girl goes out late with her friends and drinks and whatever.... I have to admit I took this a little personally but ok whatever.... She ends up ordering a few appeziters and with the tip it came out to $30 bucks.... I go to pay and she asks "do you want some money or anything" I say "don't worry about it...." and I pay the bill.

Anyway she's like well we should probably get back to my car. Now throughout the whole night this girl is like sending mixed signals to me.... sometimes doing Kino... sometimes ignoring me.... and most of the time just struggling with conversation making it seem like it was my job to entertain her or what not...

Also just a side note: but both this girl and the other HB 7 which I'm hooking up with are really HB 7's when they are dressed up and HB 5's naturally. I am mentioning this because I don't think their looks warrant that much attention.


Ok so anyway I drive her back to her car and I park in front of it. Now let me tell you.... the mood was very akward...... We look at each other and she's like "I had a nice time thanks" then she reaches and opens the door handle... she asks me for directions back and I tell her.

Ok so now before she leaves I lean in to kiss her...... just like last time she puts her cheek blatantly out.... I kiss her cheek... and you know what.... something makes me go back in for her lips......

Well as I do this she seems a bit taken back..... doesn't really meet me halfway and I'm sort of stuck in the air with my lips puckered (this has happend to me once before)

She's like "ok this is the akward part"

I look at her and say "why is it akward" I then hold the side and back of her head and move in full force.... all the way...

We have a pretty nice kiss with some tongue action of course.... she then smiles really big and says good night.....


Well since she wasn't from my area... I texted her a little while later saying "did you find your way home ok"

She doesn't respond at all that night...

The next morning I see texts from her

"hey sorry I just got your texts today, I made it home thanks"

Well later on the day I responded "suuure love those games " Now this has become an inside joke between us since she says she doesn't play games....

Well anyway we exchange a few normal texts back and forth... and then somehow she gets to criticising me for our date while also mentioning at the same time that our kiss was amazing.

I have her texts still in my cell so I am going to type then out word for word into 1 paragraph

"well i was just surprised at how little you had to say yet when we are on the phone i can vibe off you and talk and feel comfortable. It felt like I was bothering you.

In addition to that your chaotic planning was absurd and lack of navigation. This why I asked if you are hot **** in your area cause you act like you were.

Not the least bit interested in impressing me at all. That might be cold to say but its something I admire and respect in a man. It shows pride."

 

[Reyaj]

Ok so I respond with simply this

"wow so thats your intrperation of me driving out of my way to take you to a nice theater...... thanks"


She responds with some other bs.... but whatever I don't even care at this point because I had a bowling date with the other HB 7 who I have been at least hooking up with a bit.



So anyway she actually texts me while i'm on my date so I respond "hey I'll call you tomorrow I'm out bowling right now"

She responds "ok whatever you say"


So anyway I basically had a bunch of drinks and on my way home I end up talking to her on the phone as she is out with her friends going to some club or what not.

She says something like in a very direct manner "ya know my whole thing is I like to go out and have a good time. I can't honestly say that I drove all the way out to see you and I had a good time..... "


Well DJ's like with a lot of my moves..... you are either going to say I did the right thing or rip into me..... but as soon as she said this I just hung up the phone....

It felt good....... I mean from my point of view this girl wasn't worth the efforts... She is basically saying she wants a guy that supplicates..... and you know what.... she should have met met me like 5 years ago if thats the case......


So she texts me and says "I didn't hang up....."


I respond with "hopefully those guys you meet in the club will show you more respect...."



and that was that.... I took her off my Myspace and she hasn't responded since.... I expected like some cursing out or some departing insults but nothing.....



What do you all think?

 

[Reyaj]

Bump

 

[Reyaj]

Just want to know if I should have nexted her or not....

 

[SickAgain]

You realize that this approach journal has become a date journal. Go back to approaching. And you have no choice but to next the girl since you blew her off with that last comment. So if you hit her up again she will lose all (remaining) respect for you.