Jayer's 100 Approach Journal (Will Finish 100 approaches no matter what)

[Phyzzle]

Fine improvements made. But I'm going to tell you what I tell everyone: if you want all this frustration to stop fast, just make plans instantly on the spot.

"so how about sunday"

I said "ok as long as it isn't too early"

So anyways Sunday comes around and I dont hear from her. I call her and there is no answer.....

Don't ask her to do "something" on "Sunday". You are wasting your time, and you might as well have not talked at all.

Make actual plans of when and what. If she insists that definite plans are impossible, then you know that's a rejection immediately. This is much less frustrating.

 

[Reyaj]

Thanx 4 the support fellow DJs! I know I have to work on my anger and find more useful ways to vent. My issue is only when I feel disrespected by girls. Like the girl I cursed out... she basically stood me up and didn't seem to care much about it. It's disrespect like that really irks me...... When I'm in that situation I feel like either way I lose. If I don't say anything... she'll think she can do whatever to me and its ok.... and if I vent and let out my anger she thinks I am a total ******* and I don't get any either.....

As far as burning bridges.... well she is just some girl I met at a bar... she doesn't know anyone I do so I could care less what she thinks.

Overall I still do agree that you shouldn't lose your cool and for this I did mess up. I will try and improve on this. Hopefully I can refrain from telling off this expensive dinner chick.

Phyzzle - Good point..... I'll try making more definite plans in the future.



As I said before I did score 3 numbers of this past weekend. This next response will describe them as well as my follow up game.

 

[DavenJuan]

Jayer..i have been reading off and on through some of ypur posts...couple things that have been mentioned or not, but let me shed some light from my own personal experiences...

None of us know or can even say 100percent what will work or not, we just can tell you from our own endevours what works for us.

you DO seem to text alot.. thats a good thing and bad. Texting is better than actually calling and not giving them a chance to miss your voice. however you still come off as AFC when sending these texts all the time...

Aniother thing about the texts is that you are always Asking "how the are"..How was your day"..."how do you feel"..though these questions are fine...it seems soooo MR. Nice Guy.... who gives a care what they feel or how there day is going.

Instead of asking what to do or what they think about doing...just make the plans and tell them this is when you two are doing it.

I read a couple posts from the beginning and a few recently and you have made progress...hell i have been on this forum for 4 years and still do things AFC from time to time. i still ahve lots of work to do...keep at it. go for what you want and expect nothing less.

...and by all means...keep spinning plates, you seem to invest a lil much in each of these girls.. thats why you got soo worked up on that one chic who said never call her again after the nice "go **** yourself"

good luck..ill be reading

 

[Reyaj]

Ok here is the results of my weekend approaches.

I went with some friends to a bar club in a trendy area here last Saturday. I did the normal... relaxed has a few drinks observed the area..

Well I see this 1 girl walk by me..... probably like an HB 5 at best.... but I needed a warm up. I touched her to get her attention and she looked me. I smiled and said "how are you"

Her: (eyes plastered) I'm drunk.... and I can't find my friends...
Me: aw... well that's ok you found me (I immediately started kino... touch shoulder waist etc..)

She ends up kinoing me and talking. I got her number pretty fast and she already said we should hang out asap. She definitely wanted to hook up right there. The problem was I was not attracted to this girl at all. I couldn't bring myself to even kiss her even though it was right there for the taking. I ended up passing her off to one of my other friends.....

Well I roamed around the place more looking for chicks.... I end up talking to a few but didn't feel there was real interest to go for the number. There was especially this 1 HB 8... I'm proud that I held the convo.... but she kept talking to her friend while we were talking... so I decided not to go for the number... ok whatever.... all this was warm up!

Ok so I'm walking around and I see this HB 7 standing next to her friend. At the same time the security is escorting a man out of the club for urinating in the bathroom sink. Well I make eye contact with the hb7 and move in...

Me: did you see that guy? he was pissing in the sink he was escorted out
Her: eeew really.... that's so gross
Me: yeah seriously.... do you come here a lot?
Her: not that much.... we're actually about to leave this place is beat
Me: yeah I know... whats your name by the way?
Her: Alley... yours?
Me: Jayer nice to meet you
Her: you too.... you actually look like one of my friends...
Me: oh really?
Her: yea dont worry he's a good looking guy
Me: aw thanks. Well anyways Im about to leave. give me your number and i'll give you a call
Her: ok sure..
Me: (kissed her on the cheek) good night

I take out my cell and I put her number in.


Ok so after leaving this bar/club we decide to stop in a quieter place to check out the scene...

We end up at this other lounge/club place and it's very empty. There are however a few girls sitting at the bar having some drinks. Well my friends decide to approach 2 of the 3 girls in the set leaving one of them alone just for me. She was an HB 8... very attractive... I move in

Me: excuse me... can you see the score of the game on that tv over there...
Her: um no sorry i'm not really into sports
Me: ahh I'm a big fan of that team thats why I was wondering
Her: oh really.... (smiling probably knowing I was trying to get at her)
Me: (smiling) yes... so whats your name
Her: (says something i dont remember lol) whats yours?
Me: what do you think....?
Her: lol oh come I dont want to play this game just tell me
Me: that would be too easy... just try and guess
Her: umm ok.... dave, mike roger etc...
Me: nope....
Her: come on just tell me
Me: its Jayer
Her: ahhh ok never would have thought that.
Me: so how old are you?
Her: well how old do you think I am?
Me: umm I dont know 18
Her: haha so funny no for real?
Me: I have no idea... somewhere between your 20's and 30's
Her: I'm 23... and you?
Me: you guess now

Well anyway we talked for a little more about trivial matters and then I told her I had to go find my friends who at this point had disappeared.

Me: you should give me your number... I'll give you a call sometime (i pull out my cell)
Her: (grabbing my cell) enters her number
Me: great I'll call you or send you a text soon (smiling)
Her: no don't text me... my phone doesn't receieve them
Me: ok I'll just call then (I kiss her on the cheek) nice meeting you

So anyway later that night I text message the HB 7

"it was nice meeting you"

She texts me back a little while later

"it was nice meeting you too!"

Well I wait a day.... and on Monday I call this HB 7 around 9pm at night. I notice she is on the other line.... but she actually answers

Her: Hello
Me: hi its jayer we met on saturday
Her: (a little hesitancy in her voice) oh hi..
Me: lol.. do you remember me
Her: (hesitancy in her voice) yea i do.. i did have a lot to drink though...
Me: so whats up?
Her: not much I was just on the phone with my friend....
Me: oh my bad didn't mean to interrupt
Her: its ok I can just call her back later...

Well the conversation with her was very akward.... it turns out she told me she drank so much she passed out... I asked her if she rembered what I look like and she said she didn't..... I reminded her what she said about me looking liek her friend and she was like "oh I guess thats a good thing"

Well anyway I talked to her for like 15 minutes before I told her I had to go.
I don't know how much potential there is with this girl.... but yesterday just for the hell of it I texted her at lunch time and said "hope you are having a good day"

She responded pretty quickly...

"aww thanks. I hope you are too!"


Ok so now onto the hot chick I met... .the HB 8. To tell you all the truth I was nervous about calling her because of how attractive she is.... but I know I should never put a girl on a pedestal so after a while of talking myself out of it I decided that if I didn't push myself to call her yesterday I never would. So around 9pm yesterday I decided to just dial her.....

Well she answered

Me: Hi its jayer we met on saturday
Her: oh hi jayer how are you
Me: good... I'm glad you remember me
Her: yea I do... I wasn't that drunk
Me: so how are you?
Her: exhausted....... very long day
Me: yeah me too I worked all day and I'm pretty beat
Her: hey can I call you back in 2 minutes? you kind of caught me off guard I'm in the middle of washing up
Me: sure no problem... be sure to rinse off lol
Her: ok bye

Well guess what? I never got a call back. The truth is I don't care so much because like I said this girl is ****ing hot...... she probably gets hit on constantly...... I know beauty is subjective but trust me on this.... she'd be between anyone's hb 7 to hb 9 status.

So anyways... thats my recap of the weekend... looks like more games and more work..........


Bottom Line

Approaches: 25
Numbers: 15


I said I would analyze my progress and finding for every 25th approach interval so look for that update soon.

Even though I've come a long way I now need to learn how to move onto the next level and escalate these things.

Any advice you all have on these girls is appreciated...

 

[Reyaj]

Jayer..i have been reading off and on through some of ypur posts...couple things that have been mentioned or not, but let me shed some light from my own personal experiences...

None of us know or can even say 100percent what will work or not, we just can tell you from our own endevours what works for us.

you DO seem to text alot.. thats a good thing and bad. Texting is better than actually calling and not giving them a chance to miss your voice. however you still come off as AFC when sending these texts all the time...

Aniother thing about the texts is that you are always Asking "how the are"..How was your day"..."how do you feel"..though these questions are fine...it seems soooo MR. Nice Guy.... who gives a care what they feel or how there day is going.

Instead of asking what to do or what they think about doing...just make the plans and tell them this is when you two are doing it.

I read a couple posts from the beginning and a few recently and you have made progress...hell i have been on this forum for 4 years and still do things AFC from time to time. i still ahve lots of work to do...keep at it. go for what you want and expect nothing less.

...and by all means...keep spinning plates, you seem to invest a lil much in each of these girls.. thats why you got soo worked up on that one chic who said never call her again after the nice "go **** yourself"

good luck..ill be reading

You are right dude. I'm about to call these chicks tonight and try and set some plans. But before I do that let me post a recap...

 

[Reyaj]

Ok a much over due recap of where I left off with the HB 7 and HB 8....

Well to my surprise last wednesday I got a phone call from the HB 7... the one who I felt the convo was akward with.. this time when I talked to her I was a lot more confident and my C&F came out in me... well anyway I kept the convo short... and told her I was going to eat dinner but I would call her back later.... Well not that I did it on purpose.... but I was so busy I didn't get a chance too. So I ended up texting her the next day and saying I fell asleep early..... then at night I called her and she answered. She was actually in the car with some guy but she talked me and said she was going out... She asked that I show up at the same place she was going to... I told her I had other plans... but would call her tommorow...

Well just for the sport of it.. I decided to call the HB 8... the one that never called me back cause she was washing up...

Well I didn't expect her to answer.... but to my surprise she did.... She basically apologized for not calling me back and said "I honestly forgot..." Not much IL here right? lol well anyway I did talk to her a little more and she was actually out with some friends.... a guy who I heard in the background... She was really nice on the phone though... because from appearance you would think this girl is really stuck up. Anyway I told her I was pretty busy this weekend and that I had to go.... but I would call her over the weekend to talk. She said "yeah call me this weekend"

Well anyways I didn't call her this weekend cause I was really busy.. I'm sure she had plans too. I tried calling her last night but there was no answer... I doubt she will call me back. As I said this girl is an HB 8 and probably has a lot of attention. Still I may try calling her 1 more time this week and just go for a date.... what do I have to lose right?

Back to the HB 7.... I am supposed to meet her for coffee tomorrow.... I don't know how it will go but at least I'm not shelling out $$$ for dinner like I did with the last girl who by the way I never heard from. I didn't curse her out though.... so hopefully that makes some of you happy... I've been tempted to believe me...... but I've held back.... There has been no more contact with her.... so expensive dinner chick is officially nexted my book...

 

[Stud No1]

fair play for this good work buddy

but calling someone after you meet them once, especially if the meeting was an intoxicated one, seems a little much. maybe thats just where im from though as here that'd freak a girl out

 

[Bible_Belt]

I didn't curse her out though.... so hopefully that makes some of you happy... I've been tempted to believe me...... but I've held back....


Good for you. Do whatever it takes to vent your frustration, but just don't ever let a woman see you lose your cool.

Notice how you didn't b!tch at the hb8 for not calling back, and then it went well. Not calling you back was a sh!t test, maybe even a subconscious one, to see if you would react as a needy, guilt-slinging wuss. And you passed; good job.

After you talk to some HB9s, then you will start treating the 8s like you treat the 7s now. Experience with hot girls breeds comfort and confidence.

 

[Reyaj]

BB thanks for the encouragement. The times I feel like cursing any of these girls out is when I feel like I've disrespected. Things like breaking plans with me and wasting my time with games etc.... I guess you are saying to just accept these actions from girls as part of the game. Sometimes it irks me... but I have held pact.... But honestly as far as getting laid... its really not a fairy tale world. Even if I never curse this girl out... it doesn't mean she is going to contact me one day out of the blue.... To me its like if her IL is low and she is a game playing ***** why not call her out on it?



Ok anyways time for a recap..... I did have a coffee date with HB 7 on wednesday. We met up at night time in front of the coffee shop and I kissed her on the cheek to say hello. I'll admit I was nervous but I forced myself to go through with it.

So anyway throughout the date we talked.... but there definitely was some pauses.... At times I honestly couldn't think of what to say and I felt like my nerves were showing.... still she would eventuallly start up the conversation after a long pause so all in all I really didn't know how to think the date went. Although she seemed to drink her coffee slow and wasn't in a hurry... There were definitely silent moments as I just said... but I did something a little different this time as I would have in the past. Instead of worrying when there was silence that the date wasnt going well.... I held the frame of embracing it and not feeling pressure to talk. This led to her iniaiting the conversation a lot of the times.

So yeah we probably were there about an hour and a half... finally I asked for the check as it was getting late. We walked out of the place and said it was nice to see her and kissed her on the cheek. She looked at me and said she had a really nice time. I told her I'd talk to her soon.

Well a few hours later that same night she texted me and said "i just want to let you know I had a really nice time tonight. good night"

Well I texted her back saying I did as well.

See that.... finally a girl showing some IL.... I like it.... I'm going to obviously try and set up another date and see how it goes....


Ok anyway back to HB 8 girl. SO I called her last night again and she didn't answer. I left her a message saying I called to say hi hoped all was going well. I left her my number if she wanted to call me back.

I haven't heard from back from this girl and I don't expect to. She is probably a typical HB 8 attention *****. Still there has got to be a way to bang these real hot girls.... which I hope I will eventually graduate too.

 

[Bible_Belt]

To me its like if her IL is low and she is a game playing ***** why not call her out on it?

Oh, but you do, just not by losing your cool. You call her out by letting her think that you like her, and then just never calling again, moving on to another girl right away. That's how you get them. That translates to your higher value. Losing your cool demonstrates low value; obviously, she must be a real catch for you if you are getting so mad about losing her. So don't give the b!tch the satisfation of knowing. Treat her like you have a lot of sex with much hotter girls and could not give two sh!ts whether she lives or dies. That's the only way to go.

Still there has got to be a way to bang these real hot girls.... which I hope I will eventually graduate too.

fwiw, I have done well by working my way up. After some HB7's, a HB8 will like you and feel a need to have you as validation. Take what you can get, bang the hell out of her, and then trade up for a slighter hotter model. Keep doing this, and you will eventually find yourself with HB9 and 10 girls.

Also, if you find your conversation with girls lacking, then become versed in chickcentric topics that every girl loves, even if you have to watch some crap TV like The Soup or Grey's Anatomy. Myspace is good for the well-researched guy, because you can see what a girl likes by her profile. Don't let her know that you studied up for her, just act like it is a neat coincidence that you like some of the stuff she likes.

 

[Reyaj]

To me its like if her IL is low and she is a game playing ***** why not call her out on it?

Oh, but you do, just not by losing your cool. You call her out by letting her think that you like her, and then just never calling again, moving on to another girl right away. That's how you get them. That translates to your higher value. Losing your cool demonstrates low value; obviously, she must be a real catch for you if you are getting so mad about losing her. So don't give the b!tch the satisfation of knowing. Treat her like you have a lot of sex with much hotter girls and could not give two sh!ts whether she lives or dies. That's the only way to go.

Still there has got to be a way to bang these real hot girls.... which I hope I will eventually graduate too.

fwiw, I have done well by working my way up. After some HB7's, a HB8 will like you and feel a need to have you as validation. Take what you can get, bang the hell out of her, and then trade up for a slighter hotter model. Keep doing this, and you will eventually find yourself with HB9 and 10 girls.

Also, if you find your conversation with girls lacking, then become versed in chickcentric topics that every girl loves, even if you have to watch some crap TV like The Soup or Grey's Anatomy. Myspace is good for the well-researched guy, because you can see what a girl likes by her profile. Don't let her know that you studied up for her, just act like it is a neat coincidence that you like some of the stuff she likes.

You are right BB. Its hard when you really start to like a girl.. its then when you start breaking the rules.... I think you said you feel the game never ends though right? I know I have mentioned this before... but I think eventually there can be a relaxtion period as constant game playing will certainly not make me happy. But in any case I fell for this girl too soon. I put her on a pedestal and it was my mistake.

Whats ironic is that I texted everyone I knew a happy thanksgiving yesterday and she responded with a smile. No follow up from me though... I know better

I actually did some more approaches along with went out with the hb 7 I pulled from 2 weeks ago...

I'm going to update every1

 

[Ever onward]

The girl never called me to go over her place. So I called her last Saturday and she woke up and sounded like she was sleeping.. I asked if she still wanted to hang out and she said she was really tired from going out drinking the night before... so she wasn't sure. Well i suggested she take a nap and call me when she got up. She said sure... Well anyway I never got a phone call that night. I ended up going out on my own with some friends anyways.... but after like 2 in the morning I texted her "Thats ****ed up"

Well 6 in the morning the next day she responded saying "sorry she just woke up she overslept"

I responded via text "well you will just have to make it up to me then"

Well she basically never responded after that.... so after a few days just to vent a little frustration with her and women in general I texted her

"go **** yourself!"

She responds the next day "if you cant text me something nice or at a decent hour please dont text me"

Well I respond saying "funny how u text me when i say something mean... you are so pathetic at being a player"

Wow, I've missed a lot of what you've been up to! I read this post but I didn't have the attention span to continue reading the rest of your journal so I'd be caught up.

I think it's pretty obvious you were pursuing at this point. Pursuing will KILL whatever attraction was present. Listen, if a girl is interested you won't have to struggle to make plans with her. Because she went out with you before I assume that she was interested at one point (or interested in you buying her expensive dinners). But whatever her interest was, you killed it with your pursuing. I think you're making yourself to available by texting back and forth all the time or spending huge amounts of time on the phone or calling.

Listen man, why would she want to get together with you if she gets her fill of you from all the phone calls and texts? Text her or call her to get together with her. Save the long conversations for IN PERSON interactions. If making plans to get together is a struggle and she's not making an effort then NEXT. Keep your emotions in check.

That chick that told you to lose your number didn't learn any lesson from your behavior. She didn't have any emotional investment to you. She was detached. If anything she is just going to have a laugh about how much emotion you had invested in her. That sucks but that's the way girls are.

Finally, I think it's time you ask yourself what it is you are looking for. Are you looking to get at meeting women? Are you looking to have multiple fvck buddies? Are you looking for one fvck buddy? Are you looking for a girlfriend?

What are your goals Jayer other than completing the 100 approaches?

 

[Supremo]

Bottom Line

Approaches: 25
Numbers: 15

Jayer, I've skimmed your thread, thoroughly read most of your big posts, and am inspired by your dedication.

25 approaches in what, 2-3 years? Not a lot, but hey, at least you're going for it. And slowly increasing the number you do as you go on.

You do seem to have a pretty good success rate with your numbers/approaches... 15/25=60%.

Keep it up dude... we're all here for ya.

Just keep approaching. Over and over. The next time you go out, make a goal to approach at least 5 different girls (or sets).

When it's not a problem to do 5 in one night, go up to 7, then 10, then 13, then 15, etc.

After a while you'll really get to know what works and what doesn't.

Good luck

 

[Reyaj]

Wow, I've missed a lot of what you've been up to! I read this post but I didn't have the attention span to continue reading the rest of your journal so I'd be caught up.

I think it's pretty obvious you were pursuing at this point. Pursuing will KILL whatever attraction was present. Listen, if a girl is interested you won't have to struggle to make plans with her. Because she went out with you before I assume that she was interested at one point (or interested in you buying her expensive dinners). But whatever her interest was, you killed it with your pursuing. I think you're making yourself to available by texting back and forth all the time or spending huge amounts of time on the phone or calling.

Listen man, why would she want to get together with you if she gets her fill of you from all the phone calls and texts? Text her or call her to get together with her. Save the long conversations for IN PERSON interactions. If making plans to get together is a struggle and she's not making an effort then NEXT. Keep your emotions in check.

That chick that told you to lose your number didn't learn any lesson from your behavior. She didn't have any emotional investment to you. She was detached. If anything she is just going to have a laugh about how much emotion you had invested in her. That sucks but that's the way girls are.

Finally, I think it's time you ask yourself what it is you are looking for. Are you looking to get at meeting women? Are you looking to have multiple fvck buddies? Are you looking for one fvck buddy? Are you looking for a girlfriend?

What are your goals Jayer other than completing the 100 approaches?

Ok my goal for this is basically to gain more confidence and not be afraid to go after a girl I want. I want to be able to go for a girl I'm interested in and not psyche myself out or feel that I'm not worthy enough etc.. From there I want to take seduction to the next level which is yes.... getting a girl into bed. I'm not saying I never score but the truth is whenever I do get laid it feels more like luck than anything I've had to do with getting myself. And yes if I do meet the right girl then I am definitely up for the LTR... but I'm very picky with that.



Anyways I realize I still haven't posted updates. I've actually scored a few more numbers and probably made some mistakes with the ones I already had. I am going to post this update right now.

 

[Reyaj]

Ok anyways time for a recap..... I did have a coffee date with HB 7 on wednesday. We met up at night time in front of the coffee shop and I kissed her on the cheek to say hello. I'll admit I was nervous but I forced myself to go through with it.

So anyway throughout the date we talked.... but there definitely was some pauses.... At times I honestly couldn't think of what to say and I felt like my nerves were showing.... still she would eventuallly start up the conversation after a long pause so all in all I really didn't know how to think the date went. Although she seemed to drink her coffee slow and wasn't in a hurry... There were definitely silent moments as I just said... but I did something a little different this time as I would have in the past. Instead of worrying when there was silence that the date wasnt going well.... I held the frame of embracing it and not feeling pressure to talk. This led to her iniaiting the conversation a lot of the times.

So yeah we probably were there about an hour and a half... finally I asked for the check as it was getting late. We walked out of the place and said it was nice to see her and kissed her on the cheek. She looked at me and said she had a really nice time. I told her I'd talk to her soon.

Well a few hours later that same night she texted me and said "i just want to let you know I had a really nice time tonight. good night"

Well I texted her back saying I did as well.

See that.... finally a girl showing some IL.... I like it.... I'm going to obviously try and set up another date and see how it goes....


Ok anyway back to HB 8 girl. SO I called her last night again and she didn't answer. I left her a message saying I called to say hi hoped all was going well. I left her my number if she wanted to call me back.

I haven't heard from back from this girl and I don't expect to. She is probably a typical HB 8 attention *****. Still there has got to be a way to bang these real hot girls.... which I hope I will eventually graduate too.[/QUOTE]


Ok this looks like my last post on my progress. A lot has happend so I am going to try and update my accounts are accurate as possible.

So the next day after my coffee date with HB 7 I believe I texted her at lunch time saying "hope you are having a good day" Well I didn't receive a response. So at night time since I was curious i called her and she answered. She said she didn't receive any texts from me and was surprised I called. She asked me if I had a good time and what I thought of her and I told her I did and that I thought she was really nice. I said we should see each other again and she agreed. So we ended up making plans to go to the movies that Wednesday.

Ok so Wednesday rolls around and I meet her at the movie theater. Well when I see her I have to be honest... she looks pretty bad.... that hb 7 went down to an hb 5. I dont know if she didnt do her make up, or her hair was up.... but I was not attracted to her at all. So I ended up paying for the movie anyway and we end up watching it. Since I wasn't attracted to her at all I had no desire to make a move and really just wanted to go home asap. Well when the movie go out we walked side by side and since we were on opposite sides of the parking lot Well I drove her to her car and she didnt leave right away when I pulled next to hers. Then she looked at me and said "I always have a good time with you" I knew what she wanted so I kissed her really quick and brief and although she seemed disappointed I didn't kiss her with more enthusiasm she still smiled and was on her way.

Well the following day she texts me random "hey hope you are having a good day"

Now the first time I went out with her she looked ok and the next time she looked bad so I talked to some friends about this and they said to give her 1 more shot. Well I ended up setting up a double date at a lounge. This way if I wasn't feeling her I had my wing man and I could bail out. Well she brought a friend and me and my wing met up with them. This time when i saw her she looked decent... maybe like HB 6-7... that and a lot of drinking that we did made it a fun night. Her friend wasn't into my wing but they both served their purpose. We ended up making out with some slight groping. But anyways her friend wanted to leave as she wasn't feeling my wing and vice versa so we both ended up leaving.... Still the IL on her part was high and there....

Ok now before I continue with this I ended up going out that Saturday and scoring a number in the same place I met this HB 7 chick I've been talking about.

It went down like this. I was standing on the side with my friend sipping my drink when I saw a girl against the well texting me playing with her cell phone. I move in and whisper in her ear

Me: are you sending me a text message?
Her: (looking up at my surprised) haha no I dont have your number
Me: (smiling) well you should
Her: (paused for a second looked at me...) (smiling) yeah you are right I should
Me: So go ahead and put it in, I'm Jayer by the way
Her: oh hey I'm HB 5 (I didn't find her attractive)

She inputs my number into her phone.

Me: now you have to send me a text
Her: ok... what should I say?
Me: I don't know surprise me... it was nice meeting you (kissed her on the cheek)
Her: you too


Ok so anyway back to the original HB 7 we are discussing. So I call her the next day which is Sunday and ask her if she wants to hang out. She says sure. We end up going to this mexican restaurant to get margaritas. But somehow we end up ordering food too. I end up paying.... she asked if I wanted money but my pride told her no. I know this is stupid of me right? I just dont want to look cheap.... I hear girls are turned off by that. So anyway we end up drinking a margarita. The waiter asks if we want another one. I look at her and she says sure. She ends up ordering another margarita after that and I do too. Now I'm not complaining because I like when girls drink. Well anyways the bill ends up being like 60 bucks which I already explained I paid. Fudge! But anyways I dont care cause I'm drunk and horny and I was hoping she is. Well she ends up letting me drive her car back to where I parked my car which was about 30 mins away. So anyway I finally get to the parking lot and there is a few cars around... one nearly across with his headlights on. Well as I said I'm drunk and horny and I dont care. I end up going right for the kiss... we start making out... and I start moving my hands around her body.... with a little slight groping around her breasts. She then started rubbing my schlong very slight over my clothes. I continued kissing but then she sorta of stopped and looked at me and said "i have a nice time I hope I see you soon"

Trust me... she had the vibe that she wanted me to leave and so me being frustrated I put on a fake smile and said I'd talk to her soon and I left.

I guess the fact that I was in a parking lot messed me up. I think if I had her in a comfortable atmosphere with complete isolation I can be in there! Unfortunately I dont have my own place and I think this is what is going to mess me up. But anyway I ended up going out with her again this past Friday. I was so tired.... but I ended up taking her on an action date which was an arcade that actually had a bar. When we get there she actually knows the bartender who reaches over the bar and hugs and kisses her on the cheek right in front of me. I play it cool and introduce myself. They end up talking for a while. I wasn't sure how to play this scenario but I stayed calm.

Well anyway I buy the first drink.... now finally she offers to buy the next one and she does. I end up paying for 20 bucks worth of arcade simulators and then she said she wanted another drink. I said ok.. and we went near the bar. I told her I had to run to the bathroom. When I get back I see a nice beer waitng for me.... so she ended up paying for that drink too. I end up buying some expensive shot after that.... and basically probably spent another 60 bucks. Well anyway she is telliing me that her brother is having a party at his apartment where there will be a lot of alcohol and asks that I go. The problem is that its pretty far away and I'm already exhausted. She said I could sleep at his place or go back to her parents house and sleep in the guest room. I knew I had to make a decision here...... it was either go for this and possibly get laid or go home and sleep as I was exhausted. She had also mentioned she would like to come to my house one day to watch movie.....

But anyway I was practically falling asleep so I told her I needed to go home. She seemed disappointed and really wanted me to go with her but she understood. I tried to initiate something in the car as I kissed her but she was in a rush to get to her brothers place. She said please let me know when you get home I'm worried about you.

I texted her when I got home and she texted me back saying with "xoxo"

Ok so here is where I lost it again sorta...... I had told I was going out to this club with some friends yesterday and I told her she could come with some friends. She agreed but I hadnt heard from her all day yesterday. So I texted her at night to see if she was coming. She said "I tihnk so.. what time" so I texted her back but didn't hear from her for serveral hours. So I called her a few times but she didnt answer. Well this was annoying to me because I didnt want to start hitting on girls in the club if she was going to see me. But anyway I lost it a little bit and texted her

"if you are going to be shady thats fine but at least explain yourself"

Well she texted me this afternoon saying she had fallen asleep. I ended up talking on the phone with her a few minutes ago and I played it cool like I didnt care....

 

[Reyaj]

contd.......

Ok well anyways since I didnt see her yesterday at the club and assumed she wasn't going to show.... I approached an HB 7. I was basically standing with a group of my friends talking when her and her group of friends came right next to us. She accidentally elbowed me lightly but didn't even notice it. Well I move right in

Me: (smiling) Excuse me... you know you just elbowed me
Her: oh did I? (smirking)
Me: yeah and it kind of hurts actually
Her: (smirking) ohh ok well I hope you live
Me: you are going to have to tell me your name now
Her: (laughing) ohhh really thats how it is
Me: thats right... so what is it
Her: I'm hb 7 and you?
Me: Im Jayer nice to meet you... do you come here a lot

Well our friends ended up moving to another part of the club so it was just me and her. We chatted for a bit and I talked about the basics, age, occupation etc.. Suddenly she's like "I have to go find my friends come with me"

I actually had to take a piss so I ended up just heading to the bathroom. When I came out she was gone and I could not find her! I know this isn't a DJ thing to do... but I was so attracted her that I was actually looking around the club for her. Finally I spotted her on the dance floor.... dancing with some ugly mofo!

I was a little pissed cause she kept dancing with this guy for a while. I was mad for a while because I didn't jump on her when I had the chance... but then I calmed down and ended up going on the dance floor myself and grinding with some girl who I tried to talk to but she only wanted to dance and her friend dragged her away from whom some other guy and I were both left with hard ons.


Well anyway whatever I'm just standing around with my friends whom I located when I see a girl with a distinctive hat walking towards me. I immediately move in and say "I like your hat" She says thank you and then all of a sudden her friend who is behind her grabs me and it ends up being the HB 7!

Her: hey I was looking for you, you left me before and some creepy guy was hitting on me

Me: (acting like I didn't see her dancing with the guy) oh really.... I was right here you're the one who left

Her: noooooo

Me: well listen let get your number in case I lose you again

Her: sure...


So I end up pulling out my phone nad I put in her number. She grabs my phone and types her name in under it.

Now I did something you all are going to say is AFC but I couldn't help it...


Me: you are so cute you know that
Her: so are you...
Me: oh you're just saying that lol
Her: trust me I wouldnt give you my number if I didnt think that
Me: what about my personality.. (smiling)
Her: oh thats cute too.. if you were a jerk I wouldnt have given it to you either.



Well anyway I left the club shortly after... SHe was going to stay there till close. I end up texting her saying "it was great meeting you"

I wake up this morning to find a text from her

"Im driving home right now the weather is so bad I hope i make it in 1 piece, it was nice meeting you too"


Well I'll try calling her tomorrow.


Bottom Line:

Approaches: 27
Numbers: 17

 

[Mad Manic]

You're doing really well IMO.

 

[Ever onward]

You're doing great bud! You said your goal is to get this part of your life handled and your out doing it! All you can do is learn from your mistakes and it's obvious that you have. Your confidence has increased greatly from when you started all this.

2 things

-a few posts back you said you approached a woman you didn't find attractive. To me that seems like a waste of time for you. I mean sure, you are looking to learn or practice and all but it seems like you have got the skill of getting a number off of a random chick you're not attracted to handled. My point is high value guys are choosy. You're becoming a high value guy too so be choosy.

-About the HB7 you approached. You asked her if she thought you were good looking. Don't ask! Man, you know you are! Look at how good you're gettin with the ladies!!

 

[Reyaj]

You're doing great bud! You said your goal is to get this part of your life handled and your out doing it! All you can do is learn from your mistakes and it's obvious that you have. Your confidence has increased greatly from when you started all this.

2 things

-a few posts back you said you approached a woman you didn't find attractive. To me that seems like a waste of time for you. I mean sure, you are looking to learn or practice and all but it seems like you have got the skill of getting a number off of a random chick you're not attracted to handled. My point is high value guys are choosy. You're becoming a high value guy too so be choosy.

-About the HB7 you approached. You asked her if she thought you were good looking. Don't ask! Man, you know you are! Look at how good you're gettin with the ladies!!

Thanks for the support. You are right about the approaching of non attractive girls.... but at times I still get nervous out there so just approaching someone for practice helps a lot. I remember one night I was pretty tense at first.. and then I just started to talking to whatever girls I saw..... before I noticed i was moving up to approaching hotter and hotter girls that night.

and yeah about asking if a girl thinks you look good.... I totally agree... I actually just responded to what she said though in a playful way.... I guess reading the dialogue in text takes it out of context....

Anyway I have to post a few updates. I actually just remembered that I approached another girl that night but didnt' get the digits! So I have to fix my number total. It totally slipped my mind. It just goes to show you that you dont remember the strike outs as much.....

 

[Reyaj]

Ok here is an update.... first of all the numbers should be approaches 28 and numbers 17 because I did go for a number with another girl at that bar/club

That night after I approached the HB 5.... me and my wing walked around the place to see what was there. We saw 2 girls standing by the bar..... obvious attention *****s by the way they were carrying themselves. This is just a sport so whatever... we decide to move in

Me: (tapping 1 on shoulder from side) can I ask you a question?
HB 7: yeah what?
Me: me and my friend have a bet we need you to settle

etc......

We basically ended up talking to these girls asking what they did.... but their IL seemed pretty low and they were humoring us per say. Well after a while I went outside and I noticed the girl I was talking to did as well. So I started talking to her again... and then she was like well I better get back inside its cool out here.

Me: Let me get your number before you go in
Her: (stuttering) uhhh uhhh I have to go

and she left

So anyways sorry for that brief summary just want to make sure all is accurate

The correct totals again are

Approaches: 28
Numbers: 17