How to Spot a Unicorn

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Your assumptions are wrong. I was there, you were not.

LTR is not the same as marriage. I have never lived with a man, for example, until I was married to (in the first case), or engaged (and now married) to in the second case.
Well, that you were with that guy for 5 years and in that time you had plenty romantic, tender moments, those are facts, not assumptions. And that's what makes a relationship, be it under whatever name you want to call it. It's like with a car, once you start driving it you can call the road motorway, highway, interstate, whatever ... the bottom line is that the car accumulates mileage and wear and tear. And that's why a woman with past relationship history can't be considered an unicorn, just like a car with 100k miles on it is not a brand new car.

I'm not writing these posts to judge you, it's your life, how you've lived it and will continue to live, it's none of my business. The idea behind them is that when assessing an unicorn, it's the facts that matter, not the stories.
 
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If we are harsh to men for being puzzies, we gotta be harsh to women as well
Completely agree. My response was mostly to @pipeman84 and while I agree with much of what he posts, I don't agree with his mindset here, blaming all relationship problems on women and their inability to choose wisely and exercise proper judgment.

The world doesn't operate in absolutes, relationships, human interactions are complex and nuanced.
 

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What I do not understand is the abuse you guys subject a well-known, long-term poster like @BeExcellent to.

I understand that she comes off as arrogant to many, as many of us men do, but if you read her posts over the years, she does provide (to those who have the intellectual capacity) meaningful insights. It’s rare for most of us to come across a woman who is so self-assured.

Many posters attacked @catsmeow (who is now gone) as well - it’s not that they treated these two women “the same way we treat men”; many of you were openly hostile to anything they posted.

I called them out when something they stated seemed inappropriate to me.

Gentlemen, take a step back and ponder: would the forum be better or worse without the Old Lady? I vote that her persistence and longevity, in the light of myriad ad hominem attacks, prove her sincerity when posting.
 
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Completely agree. My response was mostly to @pipeman84 and while I agree with much of what he posts, I don't agree with his mindset here, blaming all relationship problems on women and their inability to choose wisely and exercise proper judgment.

The world doesn't operate in absolutes, relationships, human interactions are complex and nuanced.
Questions are fine, what I objected to was the passing of judgment because she had a failed marriage and a couple of previous relationships. The judgment being she has poor character and lacks proper judgment.

I think that's wrong. We all can make mistakes, what's important is that we learn and grow from them.

And also, sometimes people don't show their true colors until well into the relationship.

I'm curious how some of you would categorize men had the roles been reversed or do you believe it is only women who lack proper judgment and make unwise choices?
My comments: 1. I'm expressing my opinions based on the facts she presented. That I don't agree with the interpretations she gives them doesn't mean I'm judging her .
2. Indeed, as humans we all make mistakes. The thing is that male-female dynamics, man being the leader, suggest that the man should be the experienced one, the one who benefits from having made mistakes and learned from them. The woman is appreciated for her purity. In other words, what is an asset for a man, is considered a liability for the woman (an example of polarity).
3. We can't use the same yardstick for men and women to categorise 'bad choices': for instance, when you look at a failed 3yrs relationship. The woman has lost the unicorn status. Period. The guy can say it was just a relationship, he didn't really love her hence didn't marry her (that would be an official love/commitment declaration), was in it for sex. It's the woman's duty to screen the guy before sexual relationship happens (due to both emotional and physical consequences - pregnancy - which is hardwired in women).
 

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We all having debates here and challenging everything grandpa LOL. I just fid hard to believe that she stayed with that boogieman for 20 years giving him two more children, even her parents didn't say anything to her?
I stayed in a marriage well past its expiration date to my detriment to provide a stable environment for my children. Many men do just that, as do women. I also impregnated my wife the second time, knowing that we were always the happiest when we were expecting a child; I, too, hoped another bundle of joy would strengthen our bond, alas it did not.

It's something you could not possibly comprehend not being a parent. It's also something a man who has not been married for the right reasons would not be capable of understanding.

p.s. "you opened your legs" Dude are you in high school? like that's going to offend her? Seriously. Like cut back on the Tren brah.
 
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You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

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Id take anything the old lady says with a grain of salt as well, most of the time its wishful thinking and nonsense. Its no different then taking advice from an Onlyfans girl in her 40s = both damaged People, that will be surrounded by damage People and might even marry a damaged Person, which explains it here as well and there is nothing they can do about. No amount of therapy or support will help them through it, its basic natural selection.

To be fair, some People here have no problem to point out how damaged woman are, but in reallity most Men here are as much as damaged as woman are in their 30s and single and no Men wanting them. Men who are divorced or single in their 40s, 50s and more are Damaged People, yes in majority of the cases they are damaged as much as the woman and in most of the posts, I can actually see why it is the case.
men get jaded just as women

I would say that it is even more accentuated for men if getting a new woman is a complicated matter, as besides the normal frustration of dealing with women you also get the frustration of getting a new woman into your bed

in all fairness, I have no idea what can be done about the first type of frustration, as dealing with women is not something easy

actually the more you like a girl the more you are exposed to this and the high and lows feel stronger

my 2 cents are that humans are not built for this type of lifestyle where you go through more than a couple of partners till you settle down, and that is why both sexes get jaded

even our ancestors, they did not really have a lot of sexual partners up until the big cities were built and populated
 

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Unless he gets hit by a rock in the head, gets into a car accident, something dramatic like that and he lies in a coma and wakes up a different person, then the story you're painting here (quite fast and huge change in personality after marriage) is not believable. What is much more likely and more plausible is that you saw whatever red flags he had, yet you decided for whatever reason to marry him. And then after the first child and red flags continuing to manifest themselves, you had another 2 kids. So you had the power, control and knowledge (considering your age and life experience up to that point) to stop it very early on (before marriage) or better yet, not get into it at all. That you decided to carry on for 10yrs or how long the marriage lasted, doesn't make you a hero or unicorn.


LTR, marriage those are just words describing in essence the same thing, a committed relationship. Or do you want to tell me that when you say 'I love you' during romantic moments, in an LTR you say it with half a mouth? :p So if one relationship (LTR) fails, it's not surprising that another relationship (marriage) follows suit.
He lost his business (major life stress in and of itself) and in that was betrayed by his best friend since 10 years of age. His identity was entirely tied up in his business. So yeah. But you wouldn’t have the foggiest idea what that is like.

Any therapist would tell you that is a major life event trauma.

And anyone can see the best course of action 25 years later when all the facts and contributions have become known.

It’s the knowing in real time that’s the trick my dear.

In your arrogance you can’t see your own flaws.
 

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He lost his business (major life stress in and of itself) and in that was betrayed by his best friend since 10 years of age. His identity was entirely tied up in his business. So yeah. But you wouldn’t have the foggiest idea what that is like.

Any therapist would tell you that is a major life event trauma.

And anyone can see the best course of action 25 years later when all the facts and contributions have become known.

It’s the knowing in real time that’s the trick my dear.

In your arrogance you can’t see your own flaws.
yes, good point of view

in all fairness, it is a shock also when you really like a girl and you mess it up for some stupid reason

imagine now being betrayed by your best friend that you know since you were 10

if you also loose another thing that you really cared for, the business

then for sure it feels like super sh1t getting this combo

even each one alone is enough to take out for a decent amount ( at least ) of time someone emotionally

my father also lost his business in the 2008 crisis and never really recovered

people that do not go through traumatic events never really understand how it feels being hit in the face properly
 

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I had two businesses each for 2 years and failed them, I promised myself never to be dependent on others and work for them, but I kept doing and worked on my businesses and now have a successful Business where Im surrounded by successful and great People. If it fails, which wont happen, Id keep doing and working on a new business.

Depends on the business :)

one thing is to have a business that offers you a decent living, and a totally different thing is owning a big business

because owning a big business means that you have enough money to have a premium / luxury life

which makes even shocking when you lose the business because you lose also your extravagant lifestyle

it is a double shock, business + lifestyle

no offense, but if you do not understand this it means that you never had money to begin with so dunno how relevant is your point of view here


in regards to the authenticity of the story, I have no idea if it is true or not… but for sure we all can agree that if the story is true it is really a sad one
 

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For @DonBig : I’ve never seen nor heard of that series, lol. People have long been fascinated by nightclubs and the whole mystique they entail. The reality is not so glamorous. I don’t care whether you believe me or not. Here’s what’s funny. I’ve been here since 2015. My story and my content is completely consistent in my entire tenure here. Hard to keep a consistent line of BS going. Much easier if it’s actually the truth because the truth doesn’t change (shrugs).

My guess is that show has not been around since 2015. For all I know they took the premise for the show from my story here, lol.

Read my posts. There’s several thousand of them. I don’t need to make stuff up. My life honestly has been pretty interesting and blessed.

If I told you the club and the city, some here have been there.

Similar to Viper Room in LA or Studio54 in NYC it was THE place to go for the beautiful people, the athletes, the famous etc., so yeah lots of status and his identity was tied up in that. The best friend was the partner who did him dirty. He never recovered. Not sure he ever will. Even though I put the family on my back financially he felt emasculated everywhere we went because he went from being THE MAN to being snickered at in social circles. He was embarrassed that his wife had to support him and the family. We moved away as a result. Eventually he turned to the drinking to escape that feeling of failure, but he also never dealt with the depression that came as a result. Very sad.
 
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Men frequently err by talking too much. They often monopolize conversations, droning on and on about topics that bore women to tears. They think they're impressing the women when, in reality, they're depressing the women.

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I make 400k the year 100k for my parents and im living by the 300k
Good for you, but after taxes you remain with way less. Difficult to withdraw money from the company without paying taxes

depending on where you live ( how big the city is ) it can be a lot of money or just barely for a comfortable life

300-400k even in New York is a really good income to have, but you do not pass the premium lifestyle with that amount. Same with London or any other big city

200k in nyc is enough to live a decent life, not a lot of money for extravagant stuff remains
 

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I'm actually cruising now, but still true, nobody forced her. I guess its hard to remove the simping once it's ingrained.
Dude, take down your simping video with your single mom, older girlfriend, and the drone on your island vacation you didn't pay for (yeah, right) with cutesy music and chit before I post it here. People in glass houses should not throw stones, Pedrito. You sure talk a lot of smack for a 5'6" guy still wet behind his ears. Remember that the Internet is forever, also remember that you drew first blood.
 
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I told you Tren made me lethargic and had to stop it 5 weeks, don't mention it again, it would have been great but I couldn't deal with it, now you're hurting my feelings.
Trenbolone, boldenone, nandrolone, a-bombs it's all the same, and that's a stock phrase used to joke about PEDs, Pedrito.

Still love ya tho.

p.s. you start working on your lats yet?
 

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Of course, thanks. My family and myself own various properties, the first thing you do if you have the right amount of money is to buy property and provide rental. You need a Passiv income, everyone should have the goal to generate Passive income in their long term to do list.

The 400k are only company based and if you count all the passive income as well, I believe I don’t need to say much here.
Im prepared for the worst, Im not stupid like most People with their money. Even if I lose my business I still have income flooding in my bank
I did income property as well. It’s been a great thing.
 

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Women who have no self respect and have not self love as evidenced by terrifically high partner counts are low quality women that cannot bond.
Great men are the exception to be sure. They are the mavericks, the ambitious, the successful, often the self employed, the unabashedly "No give a sh!t" men out there doing life on their own terms. They are the ones who can take or leave women because there are always lots of women to choose from as women are indeed drawn to men like this.
True, because you see it in everyday life.

However, most of these men, in addition to being workaholics and focused on their careers, are almost always sociopaths, manipulators, and emotionally immature.
And guess who they attract? Women who don’t love themselves.
Why? Mostly because they remeber their father. Also, for other reasons.

Just as these men mock others to advance their careers, adopting an IDGAF attitude and manipulators patterns, they will do the same with their partners and children. So what that family look like?..
This is what some women are drawn to: a man's ability to mock them while making them feel loved in a way that ultimately isn’t genuine, because that kind of women, in the very first instance, can't love herself.

Now, You can say I could be wrong. For sure, but I can confirm this because I have two real examples of men who possess the qualities you described, but do not dwell in the sociopathic and manipulators category. Their relationships lasted for ten years, after having kids and marriage, before ending in divorce because "the love was gone.".
To add, one person I know, it's a close friend. He's business got eradicated by covid, but he went to a solo travel for one month, to relief his problems, and then came back, and through his own efforts, he created a social media presence, studied what he always loved to do, and became a local personal trainer, running his own gym. He now trains over 50 people and makes good money, is popular locally and on social media, so he has all the cards in his pocket to land a quality woman. Plus, his lifestyle is damn healthy.

He has all the quirks you mentioned, but: You know what? He's a good guy. A real golden boy. No sociopathy, no meanness, no manipulation. He always has a smile on his face and tells me he has a hard time with women. Finding the right ones who can receive the love he gives. He dated many, and still hard to find one like you've mentioned. He told me that He sees the same patterns I was describing. Those women keep their relationships with arrogant men who can scold them. Is this the thruth? We don't know, but this is what we see.
(by good guy I don't mean spineless, or a doormat or a nice guy)


So, if you are a woman attracted to a man like that, that's fine. However, if you cannot recognize that he may be a manipulative sociopath who mocks others—and therefore will likely do the same to you—then what is the next thing to do?

I always thought that a good person will attract a good person.
So a bad person, even if it's superficially showing you those desired quirks, will attract a bad person still.
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Make troopers out of your women. Run the fvcken ship in the manner you want to run it. She either freely submits as a passenger, or she's out.
The difference is how you give her the order to do things.
This connects with what I've said above.
Women will submit to you if you can make them uncomfortable, mocked, scolded. (She doesn't love herself.)
Others will submit if you can make them to understand, calmly, without arrogance what you've said. (She know how to love herself.)

It's really like lottery, and the approach you adopt, will actually filter out women for you
 
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Why? Mostly because they remeber their father. Also, for other reasons.
The father factor is key. One the one hand, you've got spoiled daddy's girls who see men as servants and have an entitled, self-centred attitude. Those blessed with decent looks will likely find beta male simps to take care of them. And those who are average and below-average looking are in for a lifetime of bitter disappointment as their expectations of being catered to will not translate into reality. Most feminists and man-haters come from the latter group.

On the other hand, you have girls with daddy issue who will try to please distant and cold men as they are desperate for attention their fathers never gave them. When a woman like that meets a "good guy" who genuinely likes her and treats her well her software gets scrambled and she end up sabotaging the relationship.

Women who have healthy relationships with their fathers (i.e. women who received just the right amount of attention, without becoming too spoiled or developing daddy issues) are rare because family dynamics are so messed up these days. They are the true unicorns.
 

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The father factor is key.

Women who have healthy relationships with their fathers (i.e. women who received just the right amount of attention, without becoming too spoiled or developing daddy issues) are rare because family dynamics are so messed up these days. They are the true unicorns.
This is something that is true. It's difficult to find a younger woman these days who had a healthier relationship with her father.

1. Her parents must still be married (or she won't have good values about marriage)

I must debunk this one. It doesn't matter. Her parents may still be married and yet be miserable (not a good example for her) Or her parents may be divorced and gone on to better situations. If her parents are divorced you look at who her models are for a good relationship. A unicorn will have models. Grandparents, aunt/uncle, a close friend's parents. There will be a good example she sees somewhere.
I generally prefer women for LTRs whose parents are still together. I try to see the healthier father relationship that I mentioned above.

I realize some parents stay together and are miserable. Many men become more beta as time goes on in a marriage and often becomes pushovers towards their wives. That isn't healthy to see. There are also other unhealthy behaviors from longer term couples as well.

2. Single parents need not apply

Truth is it depends. For younger men, I tend to agree. Find a woman who might have your children, although there may be a great gal who lost her husband or had some legit reason she is a single mom who could still be a high quality gal.

For older men, many women will already have their own kids if it's the second time around for both of you (just as many men will already be fathers). In this landscape you want a woman who has similar values as far as parenting goes. Also, a high quality woman is not going to introduce you to her children unless there is a well established stable relationship and she will respect you for doing the same.
I agree for younger men.

I think older, childless men are a bad fit for single moms. There are thirsty older, childless men playing beta simp for single moms.

I don't know if older, childless women are as thirsty for single dads.
 
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.Qualities a unicorn should have:
1. Emotional stability
2. Financial stability
3. Willingness to be vulnerable and bond with her man; warmth
4. Desire to sexually please and excite her man
5. Respects & defers to her man
6. Good values (compatible with yours whatever that means)
7. Feminine & supportive
8. Is a good friend and trusted confidant for her man (loyal, trustworthy, frank - the traits you would find in your closest male buddy)
9. Physically/sexually attractive
10. Seeks physical/sexual attention ONLY from her man (but she is also not an ice queen to other males in appropriate social environs)

Additional qualities if they are important to you:
1. Intelligent
2. Socially aware
3. Educated
4. Would be a good mother for your children (or IS a good mother to hers already)
The qualities are good qualities but difficult to find. This is probably why this is a thread about unicorns.
 
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