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Men who recognize their own self-worth frighten women like nothing else in this world.
 

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LOL...whatever. Some people feel small in the face of such qualification and feel the need to lash out at the system.



As I read your ad, though, it came off to me as a "ball of negativity"...I don't want this, I don't want that...none of this, none of that...at no real time do you really state what you DO want.

If I'm a woman reading this, it says, "I've had lots of f*cked-up failed relationships and I carry around a lot of emotional baggage, and if you want to spend time with me for some reason which I have not made clear, then you had best not remind me of any of my exes."

It IS very self-righteous...it does less to explain why YOU are a SUPERIOR male and more to disqualify INFERIOR women. The same difference between improving yourself to raise your social status and mocking other people to lower theirs.

I admire your honesty and I hope it works out for you...take a tip from a job posting, though:

1) Post qualifications, not DISqualifications. Write about what you WANT in a woman, not what you DON'T want.

2) Post something that actually would interest people in applying. If all you put up there is, "I'm a handsome doctor", then all you're going to get is women interested in marrying a handsome doctor, not women interested in YOU.

Maybe if a subservient homemaker to spend your money and raise your kids is what you're after, you're going about it the right way. Dunno if that'd be my angle.
As i said, this was not a serious ad. If i were to post an ad with intentions of finding a certain type of woman i would have gone about it differently.
I expected to get blasted for it, but actually that was the only one.

I think its pretty damn funny; I got a kick out of writing it.

I do see where you are coming from with the negativity part. Perhaps I'll write one listing the qualities I like, not dislike, and see how the results differ.
 

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Colossus said:
As i said, this was not a serious ad. If i were to post an ad with intentions of finding a certain type of woman i would have gone about it differently.
Why not edit it to your liking and post it as a "serious" profile. Maybe theere are a few great women out there who will resonate with you and the vibe of your profile.
Oh and don't forget to post a copy back here .
 

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Hi guys I don't normally post on the site but I thought this post sounded like fun and decided to post an ad on Craigslist yesterday to see what would happen, as an experiment of course!

Anyway I posted the ad pretty much like the versions on here and changed the parts that fit me and this is what's happen so far. For the record I live in a mid size city so I don't expect many responses since the pool of woman is small.

So far I have received one email response to the ad and it's as follows:

"Hmmm...you had me until "Dating me is a privilege". Too bad your standards are too high. I like a down to earth guy that likes to date people for who they are, not what they look like. Now....I am the best you'll never have!"

She attached 3 pictures which I'm assuming is her. Overall she is pretty hot, but from her reply the chick has issues already. I replied and thanked her for sending the picts but said that she didn't answer any of my questions so unless she does that she can move on.

This morning I decided to check out my ad and someone posted this ad a few above mine:

"Subject: Ladies...BEWARE

Would you actually date "Dating me is a privilige", posted Wed. Jan, 2nd???? Where are his pictures?? Does he meet YOUR requirements?? Doesn't give much information about himself but he sure expects it from you. Please don't lower yourself. You qualify for a drivers license, and a loan...not a date, especially with a jerk like that. If he's had his share of women, you might want to ask him for proof of being HIV-, and I certainly hope you have a LONG list of requirements to date YOU. I DO NOT know this 'guy' but, after reading that post...I felt sick to my stomach!! Just be careful...sounds strange and possibly dangerous to me!!"

So what do you guys think of this dork?
 

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zoodude said:
"Subject: Ladies...BEWARE

Would you actually date "Dating me is a privilige", posted Wed. Jan, 2nd???? Where are his pictures?? Does he meet YOUR requirements?? Doesn't give much information about himself but he sure expects it from you. Please don't lower yourself. You qualify for a drivers license, and a loan...not a date, especially with a jerk like that. If he's had his share of women, you might want to ask him for proof of being HIV-, and I certainly hope you have a LONG list of requirements to date YOU. I DO NOT know this 'guy' but, after reading that post...I felt sick to my stomach!! Just be careful...sounds strange and possibly dangerous to me!!"

So what do you guys think of this dork?
What do I think ? Not much at all - predictable response from someone who is a humorless feminist snarly OR an AFC of gold medal standard - just ignore.
You get all kinds ...
 

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Alright guys, I'm not sure who went the extra step in actually trying to meet up with the girls this Craigslist post has attracted, but since I am the originator (somewhat) I guess it's only fitting that I'm the first to try it and report back my results. I've sent another e-mail to the girl telling her that I'd be up for hanging out.

Hey (her name), I was thinking about it and maybe we could meet up for coffee sometime after Christmas break. Like I said, I don't like to date girls more than two years younger than me, and I'm not even sure if you are my type, but I'm willing to hangout sometime just to kind of see how things go.

Let me know if you are interested,
(MikeYikes)
How does that look? I've never online dated before, but my gut told me that was a good wording and tone to take in the e-mail. I normally hate things like MySpace and online dating because I think they are what Rollo would call a "Buffer", but I'm secure enough in my game to mess around with it once. I also saw some pics of her on my friend's Facebook profile, and she is pretty hot. I figure there isn't a lot of downside to this situation.

I'll keep you all posted on how this goes.
 

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MikeYikes122 said:
I normally hate things like MySpace and online dating because I think they are what Rollo would call a "Buffer", but I'm secure enough in my game to mess around with it once.
If you are secure in your game then they AREN'T a buffer, they are a supplement or a tool of convenience.

Rollo's stuff is great, but some of it doesn't allow for compensating when you are beyond stage 1.

Don't let anyone talk you out of meeting women ANYWHERE (except for maybe a women's prison or mental institution). I know people who met online who have been married for years.

FYI.....since I revised my ad the responses have been 100% favorable. Still have yet to find one who likes my pics (I know I'm not ugly so it's just a matter of time) but chicks are seeming to dig it now that I tweaked a few key points.

It seems like I get about one response every time i post. My age could have something to do with it as well. Most of the replies have been from girls between 24-27. I have noticed that although I state that some of my criteria are flexible, these women tend to zone in on key points in my ad (such as when I revised my ad to say "I prefer exotic women" that's exactly what I got). I'm thinking a few more tweaks might get me better results. If I can find just a couple of points that jump off the page and make a woman say "HEY! That's ME!" then I'm gold.
 

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zoodude said:
This morning I decided to check out my ad and someone posted this ad a few above mine:

"Subject: Ladies...BEWARE

Would you actually date "Dating me is a privilige", posted Wed. Jan, 2nd???? Where are his pictures?? Does he meet YOUR requirements?? Doesn't give much information about himself but he sure expects it from you. Please don't lower yourself. You qualify for a drivers license, and a loan...not a date, especially with a jerk like that. If he's had his share of women, you might want to ask him for proof of being HIV-, and I certainly hope you have a LONG list of requirements to date YOU. I DO NOT know this 'guy' but, after reading that post...I felt sick to my stomach!! Just be careful...sounds strange and possibly dangerous to me!!"

So what do you guys think of this dork?
I think it's example of how women are adversarial and can't tolerate any man to not be an obediate and subserviant chump towards women. So women publically c0ckblock and defame him.
 

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If you are secure in your game then they AREN'T a buffer, they are a supplement or a tool of convenience.

Rollo's stuff is great, but some of it doesn't allow for compensating when you are beyond stage 1.

Don't let anyone talk you out of meeting women ANYWHERE (except for maybe a women's prison or mental institution). I know people who met online who have been married for years.
I like Rollo's stuff too, it's great. I guess that's why I like to be the most critical of it sometimes. I think ihe went too far describing things as buffers against rejection. To put it simply, I think a lot of things he sees as a buffer to rejection is really a buffer to failure. For an experienced and calibrated person, it's really not necessary to experience all that many rejections before determining whether you can be successful in situations with women.
 

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I tried it too, just now. Got one response calling me a "pompous arse" just because I have certain parameters.

Meanwhile, a woman writes her laundry list and that's considered normal. I've noticed many profiles online where women have huge lists of what the man they seek will be like, and specifically what he will do for them and be there for them and make them feel good at the end of the day, but of themselves, write very little of what they're about, or what they'll bring to the table, other than listing negatives about themselves and how their careers come first, and for some bizzare reason, many of them list shopping as their favorite activity. This is how they expect to intrigue men? Apparently, it works for them because of all the chumps out there willing to be with just anyone with a vagina, I guess.

Here are some other little gems I've found in women's online profiles, that somehow are supposed to be appealing?:

I love to travel and although money isn't my highest priority, I would like someone who can afford to take me to go on some trips.

Please no facial hair as I am highly allergic.

Basically, don't like to talk about myself which makes this part of this profile so annoying to me. In general I would say that I am a fun, easy going person.

I am an attractive blonde women, on the inside and outamd I am extremely passionatie about the things I do. People have referred me to Goldie Hawn... I am very intelligent.

By now if you still can’t see it then I have to confess that I am a fairly narcissistic person, and spoiled... Well if you see a connection, drop me a line.

I like to have fun and have a couple of drinks when we go out but I do not want to meet anyone who makes it a regular part of their life. I think obsessive drinkers are people who are bored with life and themselves so that they don't find fun in havin fun. Fun to them is chemically removing themselves from life. That doesn't mean I never tie one on.

Honesty being important...I must confess my real age is 44" (Profile heading stated she was 40)

"Finding someone in life to spend time with is more about tolerating and embracing the things you DON'T care for and less about the great stuff you love about a person... some of you will prefer me because I am brunette... But there's a whole lot more than that to us right?... I ask that the gentleman caller be tall... "

"Because I am looking for a real relationship that will last, I believe in taking time to get to know each other... please understand I work many long hours and have limited free time. I do need some time to myself."

"I have been told I do look better in person and I really do look like my pictures."

"I enjoy exploring and experiencing new people, places and things... I am not interested in anyone from New Jersey."

"am looking for real people who is well educated"

"the squeaky heel gets the grease"
 

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Mr. Me said:
"I enjoy exploring and experiencing new people, places and things... I am not interested in anyone from New Jersey."
Now I know some people are picky.. but to shoot down an entire state? :crackup:

Does being a NJ guys carry some social stigma/bad rep I'm not aware of? LOL
 

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"Finding someone in life to spend time with is more about tolerating and embracing the things you DON'T care for and less about the great stuff you love about a person... some of you will prefer me because I am brunette... But there's a whole lot more than that to us right?... I ask that the gentleman caller be tall... "
You have got to be kidding me. HAHAHAHAHAHAH
 

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I find it interesting that the replies I am getting are mostly from women in the 23-27 range. My ad clearly states that I am 36, and that I am seeking someone roughly 24-32, but the responses are coming from the younger women.

I actually got an interesting one a couple of days ago. In her first email she described herself as a "plain jane" (in response to my preference for exotic women). In her second reply she says this:

I am 24, I think I am pretty pretentious myself but, I really don't have justification for it all the time. I would like to think I am pretty normal but I seem to find that everyone else is crazy around me. I have a small group of friends who I absolutely love adn adore but, I find that I never do anything to allow me to meet new people, I like to go out but I seldom get there. I thoroughly enjoy going to atheletic events but, I am not so athletic (LOL). I did get a gym membership for christmas so I guess that is my new years resolution. HA. I have been a teacher for the past three years and I am thinking of a career change. My favorite pasttime would have to be eating at restuarants! I absolutely love going out to eat. Anyway, I think I am pretty average and simple.
At this point I'm starting to think "Oh man, this chick must be a fugly cow or something", but today she sends me a pic and WOW......not a porn star type beauty but she's got a rockin body and nice face. She sounds nice. Lets hope I can get this one face to face.
 

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Okay so I changed the ad slightly to make it not so harsh and I've had even more responses so far. 4 to be exact since last night. One of them wrote me a very long email and she seems pretty cool. Sent picts as well and she looks smoking hot. So far so good..

I've had similar results as Str8up as the woman that are responding are in their mid 20's which is fine my me!

This has been a fun experiment and I'm going to keep tweaking the ad to see what happens. I might just have to meet up with the hot blond!
 

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So how many of the responses have started with "I never respond to ads on Craigslist but I read them from time to time for entertainment and I noticed yours and I really liked xxxxxxx so I thought I would respond"?

I'm really curious about this teacher chick. She replied with a similar line^^^, hehe. If she's for real and there's any attraction on her end I think I might be able to hang with her. I absolutely LOVE women who have high value but are modest. Great qualities for ANY human being. Too bad it doesn't work for attracting women.....
 

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Funny Str8up you are spot on. Pretty much all of them have a similar opening line response to yours. The ones that respond seem to like a man that knows what he wants and has high standards.

My subject line now reads "Do you measure up?" We will see how that works.

Very interesting study so far....
 

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For some reason I'm up at 9am on my only day to really sleep in, but I jump on my email and see that I have one with the subject line "mutual prizes" (I changed my ad headline to what another poster suggested "I am a prize. Are you a winner?")

These replies are getting interesting. This one is a 21 yr old who moved here a few weeks ago. TWENTY ONE YEARS OLD and responding to a 36 year old's ad!

I'll be the first to tell you that an older guy can land younger women, but I have always thought that some of my personal advantages were looking younger and having social proof from a younger crowd. Online I'm just a number. But it goes to show you that there are younger ones out there who aren't so hung up on age.

My ad stated that I was seeking a woman 24-32, but am willing to make exceptions for the right woman. This is the PERFECT opportunity to use my patented tried and true "Awwww....you're just a BABY!" line to keep her in qualification mode.
 

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Looks like I might be meeting up with the 24 year old teacher this week.

Here's the thing though.....this chick sent me her pic when I asked for it. Just sent her a return email telling her we should meet up. At the end of the email I asked her name.

She replies within minutes telling me her name. I expected her to request MY pic, but she agreed to meet up without asking for it. Asked for my name and that's it. Good or bad sign?
 

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STR8UP said:
Looks like I might be meeting up with the 24 year old teacher this week.

Here's the thing though.....this chick sent me her pic when I asked for it. Just sent her a return email telling her we should meet up. At the end of the email I asked her name.

She replies within minutes telling me her name. I expected her to request MY pic, but she agreed to meet up without asking for it. Asked for my name and that's it. Good or bad sign?
A long while back I did some internet gaming without a pic and girls would meet up sometimes without seeing my pic. The thing is no matter how well you describe yourself, they always are expecting something, I don't know, extraordinary. Sometimes they'll be realistic and be surprised with your look. I would say, generally there's a higher probability of the girl not being into your look when she's meeting up with you blind.
 

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I would guess that could be an issue. Maybe the best way to do it is to get her to agree to meet up THEN send them a pic just so she doesn't have elevated expectations. I'm confident that my looks will appeal to a fair amount of attractive women but I could see where a woman might tend to build up a fantasy in her head if it's left to her imagination.

Hell, I would be willing to meet a chick without a pic if I was feelin her emails. I'll be damned if I'm gonna do anything but coffee the first time anyway. If she doesn't hit par what am I out?
 

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