Craigslist post gets a reaction

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LOL, wjh I think yours may just of been better than the original.

"What you wrote was outside her paradigm and she wrote you to try to insult you enough to get you back in line."

Thanks for breaking this all down Jophil.

See I'd always assumed that chicks getting offended and trying to talk down to you after asserting yourself as the prize was just a sign you were dealing with an arrogant woman.

For some reason it never crossed my mind that this behaviour is done to put someone back in line and goes beyond just mere arrogance.
 

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lol

I got my first couple of responses:

"31 to old?"

she sent me a picture, it's ok. her in a swimsuit. probably a dated pic.

to which I reply:

31 is most likely too old, yes.

however, there are exceptions to every rule

tell me more about yourself and i might entertain this

and then she says:

"Only fair...pic 4 pic"

to which i reply:

i don't negotiate.

goodbye.
 

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harsh bro. you just gotta remember that some of these women are not as successful as men, and they take it really personally.
 

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harsh bro. you just gotta remember that some of these women are not as successful as men, and they take it really personally.
I don't care.

If she slits her wrists as a consequence I won't lose any sleep over it.

Not my problem.

I wasn't raised to be the next messiah.

It's a learning experience for me.
 

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jophil28 said:
Did you respond fiurther ?
I sent a one liner asking her to clarify what part of my ad "belittled" women.

I wonder if she will ever get back with me. If you want to find me just look for the blue guy :)
 

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I also sent a reply to underwear chick after a couple of days.

Hi Lacey,

Got your reply. Here are a few pics as requested. No underwear shots, hope you're cool with that ;)

If you are interested in meeting up for a cup of coffee and some interesting conversation one evening let me know. Take care,

STR8UP
I would fukk the hell out of her but i can take it or leave it. not my type physically but she's attractive so I can pretend :)
 

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Haha, this is great. Thank you, STR8UP.

I'm going to be meeting the blonde I mentioned soon. Got a few more pictures of her.. upgraded to a 8-8.5. We've pretty much decided that we will be having sex. Why bother with any of that date nonsense when there is sexual compatibility to test? I just got back from being out of town the past week for the holidays, and I have her expecting me to push her against the wall and have my way with her the second we come in contact. I did this once before with a girl I met through friends (but online in a chatroom my friends from my hometown all use) last year and she went around and told all her girl friends and they agreed how hot it was but "can't believe she did that." We were having sex before we said much more than "hi."

She's still constantly qualifying herself to me and trying to convince me that she meets all my criteria, and i'm totally keeping up the frame that i'm judging her and deciding if she's worth it and a "cut above the rest." It doesn't hurt at all that she has the impression that lots of pretty girls must have replied to my ad (a few but this one is the most interesting with the hugest interest level). There seems to be a number of decent women online just looknig for that one guy to pop up. If you look at their ads, they're constantly whining about the ****ty guys that email them. And most cities on the east coast (like me) have good female:male ratios so pretty girls are just sittin around sad they can't find a decent guy "at work or a bar."

She txted me "god i love when you talk intelligent, sexy, hot....such a turn on" last night. Score another for sosuave... and the power of the written word.
 

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I hate to be the one to spoil this, but it's been done:

Absurd online "laundry list"

I will say these "experiments" are pehaps the most entertaining threads on SoSuave.

Carry on.
 

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Still during the holidays so Im not expecting an avalanche of responses, but I reposted the ad yesterday afternoon and got one hit later that night.

I had edited the "looks" section to state that exotic women are a plus, and I got a reply from a mid 20'sish latina/asian??, again one of the pics was an underwear shot, a t-back no less.

Is this the norm for Craigslist?

Shot her my pics and a little line stolen from Mystery or one of those guys saying something like "Ok, so you have the exotic looks. Tell me what else there is to like about you".

No response as of yet. I'm not very photogenic so maybe I need some better pics. I know I can pick up good looking women.....I'm not the elephant man or anything. Guess you can't win em all and it might take some tweaking. I'va already done some mild Photoshop work on my existing pics but I think I just need to stage some really good shots. Sh!t, I have studio lighting and everything....

I'm also thinking about writing up a few different ads and throwing them out there to see what I get. I'm learning that women look for key things where they feel they have a connection with you. I bet I can get this down to a science. At least it can't HURT my pitiful social life.

And despite the undie pics I don't think these are bogus replies. I'm using a separate email addy and haven't gotten any spam yet.
 

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She looked good in her pictures and a friend who somehow knows her told me she is hot, but I'm still skeptical. She is about four years younger than me, and I'm kind of weirded out by the whole thought of meeting someone through the Internet, so I responded to her e-mail saying I was too old for her and that the whole thing was just a joke.
The internet is a great place to meet women. I use it as an adjunct to meeting girls in the real world.

Regardless of how you meet a girl, she's still a girl. Would you feel any differently if you were to snag this girl's number at a checkout counter?

If the fact that you're going in cold is bothering you, then that's something you have to turn around and make an advantage. Personally, I like going into a date knowing only what the person looks like. It gives you a near-infinite well of conversation topics. Not only that, going in cold allows you to more easily frame the girl's reality to your liking.

So, I say to MikeYikes, do it - meet this girl. She is attractive and interested.
 

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For all the banter about online dating and how great a tool it is for meeting women, THIS is the best warning against it here.
 

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Rollo Tomassi said:
I hate to be the one to spoil this, but it's been done:

Absurd online "laundry list"
This is not an absurd laundry list. This is several listed items that pretty much everybody should meet if they're not worthless (except the age requirement). There is no "you must be this tall and weigh at least this much but not over that much." Just a statement that you take care of yourself. Women will put "5'10 and up but under 6'2" That is way too exact. I prefer shorter girls (around 5'2) but i'm sure as hell not going to turn away an awesome babe that's 5'7.

"Take care of yourself"
"don't be a large tub of sh1t"
"send me 3 pictures"
"don't hate men"

..these are hardly huge demands.. compared to pretty much anything.. but especially to things like "not a nerd or too sarcastic, can take a hint.. self employed" and "must like these hobbies" on the link you posted. And you should note that our list of demands we pretty much meet ourselves. Demanding an in shape girl when you are in shape is very fair.

The way i edited my ad hasn't gotten more than one negative response. It's more "firm but fair" instead of "here's me talking tough to be a d1ck or show how cool i am." Some will skip by it, but who cares? I've gotten replies by a few smart women who see it as it is: a guy who has things going for him and expects the woman he meets to have her sh1t together too. That's totally opposed to "here's 800 requirements no one could possibly meet."






what's a laundry list anyway? people make lists of their laundry? grocery list?

Rollo Tomassi said:
For all the banter about online dating and how great a tool it is for meeting women, THIS is the best warning against it here.
Haha, i purposely put that in my picture requirement. I requested a couple body shots and specifically put "i'm going to find out eventually anyway so just show me now." I dont' see the big deal about online dating. Even if a girl turns out to be some fat pig, what have I really lost? She still doesn't know where I live and can't hurt me... And i sort of like it because i can build rapport and have lots to talk about once we meet in person because I have some clue about who they are and what they're doing in life and don't have to deal with questions of "what do you do" and talk about all the mundane crap.. With emails i can just copy and paste the answers to questions women ask over and over :) It's really no different than posting on a message board... it entertains me. Some of you might think having to write an email to women is just a pain in the ass... and guys think texting sucks (why not just pick up the phone?) but those of those things to me are entertaining and different. I like to write.
 

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Well, I posted my revised ad again and got two more favorable responses. Now it's "Hey, I really liked your ad." No more hate mail :)

I'm not really even in the mood to answer them. Both chicks were decent looking though. I dunno, if I'm not in the mood to even answer these responses I doubt I will be in any mood to follow through. I guess I'm gonna keep going and see what happens. Not much time lost in a few emails.
 

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Hmmm..... reminds me of something ai read on Neil Strauss's Myspace page.

I'm a selfish prick. A hot, rich, pampered intellectual with a big **** and a marathon tongue. I'm young enough to do it often and old enough to do it right. I don't have time for petty drama or emotional hysterics. I do what I want, when I want.
And what was this?

I actually wrote the above paragraph as part of a personal ad when I was learning the game.

And guess what happened?

It was the most successful personal ad I'd ever placed. Every girl I corresponded with, I ended up meeting. And every girl I met except one, I ended up dating.

So what's the lesson?

It's that practically everything we've been taught to believe about dating and social interactions is wrong...
 

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This is too good...Craigslist rage

I ran a Craigslist personals ad recently; my own take on the 'reverse qualification' thing. I know, its been done, but i couldnt resist. I live within close proximity to a major city so i had to cook up a doozy.

Keep in mind this ad is not really serious. I do not intend to date any of my responders, i just had an itch that i needed to scratch. Most of the criteria i listed is true in what i look for, but i am really not this mean or arrogant in real life.

Here's my ad:

I’m going to be direct and upfront about what I have to offer and what I expect in a potential girlfriend.

I have dated a fair amount of women and very rarely am i outright impressed. I am far from your average chump. I have a lot to offer and dating me is not something i just hand out. I have sold myself short in the past and i no longer have time for mediocre women.

I am 26, well read and educated, and on my way to medical school. This is my calling in life and I am quite convicted. I understand that “future doctor” holds less weight than actual doctor. I don’t expect you to take my word for it, nor does it make any difference to me if you do. I know where I am headed and I know exactly what it takes to get there. It is a long, tough road, but it is the path I have chosen. I have full confidence in myself and my ability to achieve what I want. It may take a long time, but hey, if it was easy, everyone would do it.

I am finishing my last semester in a bio/chem degree and will be in the full application process this spring. I have solid grades, an excellent IQ, and a writer’s vocabulary. I have many interests and pursuits: Hiking, free-climbing, snowboarding, snowshoeing, web development, writing, strength training, good food and craft beer, to name a few. I also have a degree in graphic design.

I am about six feet tall, two hundred pounds, reasonably muscular. I have good genes and come from a lean German family. I am an avid weightlifter and used to be an amateur powerlifter. I have handsome, masculine features. I am more than happy to provide photos upon request.


I have a few rules i like a woman to clear before i date her. I am not an egomaniac, I just know what I have to offer and what I am looking for.

- You must be of proportionate attractiveness to me. In other words, I am not going to date a woman who isn’t above average in looks, unless she is exemplary in other areas. Age is not really a big deal to me, so long as we can relate and I find you attractive. Generally speaking, i like women who are 24-32.

- You must keep in good shape and take care of your body. I stay in great shape and I expect any woman I date to do the same. So please, if you are a ‘BBW’, don’t bother. And get a grip on reality. In all probability you are a great person, but if you don’t maintain your figure it shows me that you are lazy and have almost zero likelihood of keeping yourself up after marriage or children. God forbid a man wants a sexy woman.

- No single mommies or divorcees. I understand that things happen and being a single or divorced parent does not necessarily make you an irresponsible or bad person. It’s just not what I’m looking for. I have never been married and have no children. On that same note, you must not have a ‘baby agenda’ or some burning desire to get married. I don’t, so I wouldn’t want you too either.

- I will not seriously consider dating a woman who has a lot of hang-ups about sex. Like it or not, sex is at least 50% of it for me, as it is most men. The last thing I want is a woman who puts up a fuss every time I make a move. If I am going to commit to a monogamous relationship, I want a partner who enjoys sex often. I don’t expect you to give it up right away, and if you did I would probably wonder, but the bottom line is that if you have hang-ups or are fussy about sex now, the writing is on the wall that it will NOT get any better with time. And being a tease is never attractive, just immature.

- You must not be a feminist or have any feminist ideals. That little ‘movement’ screwed up society big time. I believe in the natural order of things. There is a balance between the sexes, and feminism is a massively insecure mentality that tries to subvert that balance. I am in no way a misogynist; I enjoy genuine, loving women just as you would enjoy a genuine man. I just do not want to be around a woman who is constantly trying to prove to me she is just as good at “man stuff”. It is annoying and unnatural.

- Don’t have the Wonder-Woman, “you go girl” attitude. This goes with number five. I will not date a woman who constantly has to tout her independence. Yeah, we get it. You’re empowered. It’s called being an adult. You SHOULD be able to take care of yourself for God’s sake. If you have something to prove about how big your panties are then look elsewhere.

- All you party girls: If you spend every weekend rockin’ the clubs or shaking your booty at the bars, don’t bother. It tells me you lack class and dignity. We all know why people ‘hit the clubs’ or bar-bounce. Don’t get me wrong, I love to have a good time like everyone else, and I’m not ‘above’ going to a bar. But a woman who gets ****house drunk every weekend is disgusting. Get yourself together.

- No smokers. Non-negotiable.

- You must not be a religious fanatic. I personally have Christian beliefs, but I am not a self-righteous religious zealot. It’s good if you have a mature spiritual life, it attests to your character. Just be a balanced individual.

- I will not date a woman who has had had excessive sexual partners. Excessive to me is more than seven or eight. I understand everyone has been with someone, but I could not think of a bigger disqualifier than slutty behavior. No girl thinks she is a slut. But in case you didnt get the memo, if you have banged more than 10 dudes you are or were a slut at some point. No 'ex' issues either. No one likes that.

- I do like a woman who is sharp and articulate. Intelligent, objective discussion is important to me. You should be well read and reasonably educated.

- Be respectful of my time. It is important just like yours. I have a zero-tolerance policy for flakes.

- Lastly, I will not date a woman who is overly career-minded or obsessed with work. Having a career is fine, in fact I would like you to, but due to the demanding nature of my own career path, a relationship where both of us are gunning for the top would simply not work.

These may seem like stringent requirements, but they are just my personal rules. Believe it or not I really am a fun and easygoing guy. I just want to weed out those that wouldn’t jive with me and my life. Another man may have few rules or none at all, this is just me. I do not need a girlfriend. I would only like one if she can add positively to my life. These requirements will save both of us from wasting our respective time and money. If you do contact me please have some photos. No "Myspace Angles".
Ive got about 5 or 6 six responses, ALL of them positive, most of them with a sexy photo and a checklist of why they meet my requirements.

However, this one takes the cake. This is (supposedly) from an actual doctor. Something struck a nerve, a deep nerve.

Dear Mr. Wonderful,

It is with hearty enthusiasm that I write a response to your self-righteous autobiography. I find it extremely jovial and I would like to share my perspective of it.
Like yourself, I am highly educated only I have obtained my license. I am a blonde, blue eyed, Italian who keeps herself in great shape. Unlike yourself, I don't condescend upon men, nor my patients. I firmly believe that you are one of two things: a self-righteous chauvinist male, or just incredibly stupid. You will either go through this life single, alone, and having no one to care for you due to your superficial qualities or you will have many marriages that will dissipate. You better prepare yourself for the real world. Take out your crystal ball and have a long hard look at yourself. You are not Christ Himself, He is the only perfect man. You may assume you are highly educated but you lack finesse, empathy, sympathy, concern, care, love, and because of this you will lack the regard of your patients and colleagues alike. You personal views are truly contradictory. I do hope you have been more than enlightened by someone else's perspective of your views. And by the way, your LEAN, German family failed to instill manners in you. Please consider a vasectomy to remove yourself from the gene pool.

I expected hate-mail, but not such a vile backlash. I guess the joke's on her.
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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LOL, kind of funny about how she talks about how you were clearly raised with no manners and then in the next sentence basically tells you to remove yourself from the gene pool.

Hypocrite?

Yes.
 

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You are not Christ Himself, He is the only perfect man.
Just love these religious hypocrites. No kidding, you're not Christ? Wow. She's so bright making that point, huh? She must've been on the Yale Debate Team.

Ah, yes, the Christ, who scriptures also say is "the head over the man, and the man is likewise the head over the woman". Wonder if she agrees with that about her "perfect man"? Same perfect man who believed in the Hebrew Scriptures, where it's written that a good woman is terribly difficult to find:

"An excellent wife
who can find?
She is far more precious than jewels.
She opens her mouth with wisdom,
and the teaching of kindness is on her tongue."

- Proverbs 31:10,26
 

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LOL...whatever. Some people feel small in the face of such qualification and feel the need to lash out at the system.



As I read your ad, though, it came off to me as a "ball of negativity"...I don't want this, I don't want that...none of this, none of that...at no real time do you really state what you DO want.

If I'm a woman reading this, it says, "I've had lots of f*cked-up failed relationships and I carry around a lot of emotional baggage, and if you want to spend time with me for some reason which I have not made clear, then you had best not remind me of any of my exes."

It IS very self-righteous...it does less to explain why YOU are a SUPERIOR male and more to disqualify INFERIOR women. The same difference between improving yourself to raise your social status and mocking other people to lower theirs.

I admire your honesty and I hope it works out for you...take a tip from a job posting, though:

1) Post qualifications, not DISqualifications. Write about what you WANT in a woman, not what you DON'T want.

2) Post something that actually would interest people in applying. If all you put up there is, "I'm a handsome doctor", then all you're going to get is women interested in marrying a handsome doctor, not women interested in YOU.

Maybe if a subservient homemaker to spend your money and raise your kids is what you're after, you're going about it the right way. Dunno if that'd be my angle.
 
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