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RESPECT! Dude, that's awesome...6 girls? Man...ur game is just getting stronger, stronger, and more stronger..especially the girl adding you on facebook son. Wicked!
 

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Friday February 9th,

Well of the 6 potential hook-ups that I mentioned, I already hooked up with one yesterday! I got a hot and heavy KCLOSE and i got dry-humped big time :crackup: . I initially messed up but I got another chance with her and capitalized! I can't believe it, even though im a virgin i'm pretty sure i turned down getting sex from her too (she was kind of drunk).

I went to a party with a couple close guy friends (kidkoala was one of them). It was supposed to be amazing but it turned out to be so-so. There were too many guys there. So we decided to leave and go to a soccer party. There, Kidkoala and I opened practically every girl we saw. I never realized it until now, but we didn't have any AA (i was a little tipsy, but i do not drink to get my AA down, i just do it every once in awhile because im in college). Anyways, we opened mostly with introducing ourselves, but the conversations would not stick much because we asked bland questions that would be sufficient for day game but not for high energy party game. Even though I wasnt that smooth, I was proud because i did not get intimidated by the varsity college soccer players.

Anyways, a group of freshmen that I know arrived and among them was a girl (HB 7.4) who was (and DEFINATELY is now :up: ) attracted to me. We greeted each other but then went our own ways. I opened more and more girls. I wouldn't be surprised if she saw me and got jealous because she started flirting with this one guy. Anyways, I did not give a rat's ass. I just kept on opening girls.

Eventually, I saw HB7.4 sitting at a table and went and sat down next to her. I was talking to her but I was pretty unsmooth. The conversation was just rambling and trying to dig for interesting material. I asked her to go somewhere quieter to talk since it was too loud. She hesitated but finally said she had to go with her friends. I honestly didn't care much. I atleast tried to close, which used to be a lot harder for me.

The party died down and kidkoala (who #closed a girl) and I went to one of the freshman dorms for a post-party hang out to chill out with my buddies. Lo and behold, HB7.4 happened to be there. We instantly started flirting. It was ON. We were both a bit drunk, but I was KINOing the hell out of her. I was touching her belly and her thighs and she did not care. But the logistics were not that great. There were people around and I wanted to KCLOSE.

But then I thought "**** it" i'm gonna do what I want. I told her that I had to tell her a secret and took her by the hand. I led her into an empty hallway and we made out. It was really passionate, too ahaha. She wanted it all along. What was weird was that during our makeout session, she said, "i have to go" at least 18 times But she never once did! She would say, "i can't stay," but then she'd continue to make out with me. I guess she loved our passionate make out. I would push her against the wall and then softly touch her, then pull her hair back and breathe and kiss on her neck. I was dominant yet also gentle at the same time. I rubbed her ***** through her pants and she must have been so wet. We sat down on some stairs and she humped the hell out of my thigh. She was moaning a bit, too. It was aweosme because people started walking through the hallways, witnessing me hookup with this chick. I wonder what they were thinking :crazy: .

I eventually said "let's go to your room." She said, "my roomate is in my room sleeping, let's take a taxi and go to your place (my dormhall is a 10 minute cab ride from her dormhall)." I didn't feel like it so i said, "we'll be quiet." She agreed ;) . But as we were going into her room, we saw our frineds (and her close girlfriends). We talked and I eventually said, "well I am going to go." I didn't feel like ****ing around with them anymore. But the look on HB7.4's face was priceless. Her face was flushed and she had the doggy dinner bowl look. I hugged her and told her i'd call her soon and left.



P.S

This has nothing to do with the KCLOSE, but I forgot to mention a really awesome sarge I did about 3 weeks ago. One of my wings (doc holliday) dared me to approach a girl at Victoria's Secret and hit on her. I was nervous as hell but I agreed. My intention was not to try and get her number (althoiugh that would have been even cooler), but to just prove to myself that I could talk to a girl ANYWHERE. I then proceed to go up to a girl looking at skimpy thongs and I DIRECT GAMED HER. I said something along the lines of, "i saw you standing over here and I ust had to meet you." She was so uncomfortable it wasn't even funny. (ok, maybe it was funny :D ). Nevertheless, I ejected after 2 minutes, happy that I did it.


P.P.S

I have a lunch date tomorrow with the girl whose number I got on the T on Tuesday. I texted her a few days before and she responded immediately. She wants me. I can't believe how much progress my wings and I have had in just 5 months. EVERYONE HERE SHOULD START GETTING OVER THEIR FEARS!
 

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Thursday February 15th,

WAHHHHHHH :box: :trouble: :mad: :woo:

I was so close yet again to hook up. I had a girl (HB8.6) in my dorm watching a movie! And yet my KCLOSE attempt got rejected. Let me go back to Sunday, February 11, cause this is when I went on the lunch date with this girl (mentioned in my last post).

So on Sunday I went to lunch with her and she was 15 minutes late. I knew why. She did her hair up, she wore nice clothes, she took time to look good before meeting up. She was definately attracted to me. Everytime I texted her she responded almost immediately. She apologized for being late, and I said, "oh noo problem at all, at least I know that you are a brat now :)" She laughed.

During lunch, there were never stalls in the conversation, and we had a good time. I teased her, told her a good story, and kinoed her. For the second time in my life, I called a girl SEXY (SOI). She was talking about travelling, and I told her that I think it's sexy that she gets out of her comfort zone. I said it pretty weakly, for I was nervous. But at least I did it. She was a bit baffled, and said "what do you mean? Do you mean I'm like independent?" To which i said, "uhh, yeah, thats it." :rolleyes:

She saw two of her guy friends and asked if they could sit with us. I agreed and was very friendly with the guys. I think she liked my social skills, being comfortable around her guy friends. The guys left, we chatted for a bit more, and then we walked back to our dorms. I told her that I'm going to new orleans this weekend (i really am, Mardi Gras :rockon: ) but I would like to see her again this week. She agreed and she said she was free thursday.

I text her a few days later and I invite her to watch Monsters Inc. (animated movie) with me.

She comes over, and I show her some photos of me and my best friend in Europe that I had just uploaded onto my computer. THere is one chair, so I tell her to sit down next to me. We are sharing the same chair, but I notice that her BODY LANGUAGE is a little bit closed off to me. Maybe she's a bit uncomfortable sitting right next to me so soon.

We start the movie, and instead of sitting on my bed, she lies on the floor (i dont have any couches in my small ass freshman dorm). I get pillows and blankets and lie down next to her. We chat for a bit and I tease her, telling her that she looks like one of the monsters in the movie (she's liking it). I did some mini TAKEAWAYS by temporarily turning away from her and showing my back to her after she said some goofy things.

I gradually incorporate KINO throughout the movie. At first I just position myself so our shoulders are touching. Occasionally, I move my shoulders a bit against hers. I slowly get closer to her. As we're watching the movie, we talk, but I do notice that she gives me EYE CONTACT very sparingly. I notice her hands in her pockets, which is a shame, because I want to start doing KINO on her hand. I am wondering how I should escalate, cause it is very hard with the way she is lying down.

So first, i move my legs closer so that they are touching hers, and then I eventually start rubbing my big toe against her foot. She keeps her foot there for a bit, but eventually moves her leg and crosses it over her other. (i guess this was a sign :whistle: ). We continue talking a bit, and about 20 minutes later, I tell her to lift her head up. She does, and I put my arm around her (the logistics were bad, I didn't know how else to escalate further). 10 minutes later, I grab her hand which is now out of her pockets, and we hold hands. I slowly begin to trace my thumb against the palm of her hand. I know this must ffeel good. She does not pull away. She lets me trace my finger up, down, left, right, and in circles around her palm. I brush my fingers against her fingers. She doesn't move her hand away.

Eventually, I say her name, then try to kiss her. She does not let me, and says that she doesn't want to do this right now. She said that she broke up with her highschool boyfriend before leaving college (i think this is bull****) and she isn't ready for anything serious or anything for that matter. I tell her I understand (I never show disappointment or anger). I then stop holding her hand and stop cuddling her (FREEZE OUT). She then says that she should probably go. I tell her that is probably a good idea.

I am frustrated, not because I failed to hook up, but because I dont really know what I did wrong. This is the second time I've watched a movie alone with a girl and I've failed to hook up! The first time I didn't escalate enough, and it seems as though this time I was too forward and made her too uncomfortable. It's just a bit frustrating. Is hooking up with girls really supposed to be this hard?

But all that aside, at least I improved today.
 

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Fallen33 said:
It wasn't you, it was her bro. Don't blame yourself for her HS BF problem.

I always like blaming myself. I think that I can always do something better. I don't like excusing myself and just saying it's the girl. Yeah, I mean i wont actually get upset if a girl rejectss me, I will just say NEXT, but in terms of my own game, I like blaming myself.

Plus she might be bull****ting about her HS bf.
 

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Just read ur update, yea...it can be hella fustrating when u believe u did nothing wrong and something still goes wrong. Its not always us. If that were the case, then *****es would be perfect in every interaction...but believe it or not, it was mostly likely her...from what i've read. Ur skills have def improved compared to the last similar situation, be proud of that. I'm going to catch up to you dude, u aint the only one who's gonna have his dreams fulfilled!

Most of all, don't blame yourself! You did the best you could at that given time. We as men should realize that its not always our fault that an interaction is bad. I refuse to believe that sh1t. Keep it pimpin son!
 

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Heyjose25points said:
Just read ur update, yea...it can be hella fustrating when u believe u did nothing wrong and something still goes wrong. Its not always us. If that were the case, then *****es would be perfect in every interaction...but believe it or not, it was mostly likely her...from what i've read. Ur skills have def improved compared to the last similar situation, be proud of that. I'm going to catch up to you dude, u aint the only one who's gonna have his dreams fulfilled!

Most of all, don't blame yourself! You did the best you could at that given time. We as men should realize that its not always our fault that an interaction is bad. I refuse to believe that sh1t. Keep it pimpin son!
thanks jose....really appreciate the kind words.

Anyways, my roomate who is a foreign exchange student, and who doesn't have much game, just gave me his insight and it makes sense.

He believes that since watching movies in college pretty much imply hooking up, the girl was defensive right when she came into my room. She thought that I was only in it to screw her. Even though I just went in for the KCLOSE, she prob thought I was going to try to have sex with her. She was probably uncomfortable because of all this, and was extra defensive. I dont know what I should have done to alleviate her uncomfortableness, but I agree with his opinion.
 

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BRAK YOU DID EVERYTHING WRONG. WHERE TO BEGIN HMMMMM...

Before she arrived in your room, you should have had rose pedals sprinkled on the floof from the door all the way to the bed. Scented candles should have been lit all around the room except for one large candle left unlit for you and her to light together while you held her hand. A box of chocolates should have been sitting near the bedside somewhere in a heart shaped box. You should have written several poems about how much she means to you and how you could never have anyone but her and then read each of them before the movie begins. Instead of going for the kiss like you did, you should have said "I know we just met and I know its probably too soon but do you think it would be ok if we did a short... i mean one of those really quick... kiss things that guys and girls do when they hang out and like eachother... cus i like you A LOT....

Oh ya, and you should have watched a complete chick-flick movie with her and brought extra kleenex for yourself for the sad parts. Think Titanic.

Better luck next time.
 

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Brak,

I want you to realize my previous post was pure comedy on my part. Here is where I think a lot of guys hit a road block that must be overcome by continually improving their game. Although many people have said that it is sometimes the girl and I agree to an extent, I would like to believe that there are probably things you could have done to increase her comfort and attraction even further before you went for a SURPRISE kiss close. You may have put unnecessary pressure on yourself too to kiss-close during the movie.

Build attraction, then build comfort, then build sexual tension, then kiss-close.

I think you did a great job building attraction, enough she was interested in hanging with you in your dorm to watch a movie. What I think you would benefit to work on is building more comfort which happens from building and establishing rapport with eachother in the moment. That means that before you flip on the movie, talk to her for a while and talk about her values, whats important to her in relationships, how shes feeling in the moment and see if you can increase her good and comfortable feelings around you. This is where I think speed seduction by ross jeffries and david deangelo helped me out the most. I think you ought to look into building comfort even more so that she was so comfortable around you that you could get away with just about anything because she trusts that you are with her for more than sex.
 

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Brak as soon as she got there and you noticed she was unconfortable and had closed off BL you should have gotten her the fcuk out of there. Bounce to a public place for a little while.

There are a couple major flaws here but we can talk about them in person next time we meet up.
 

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Sunday, March 4

Damn, I haven't posted here in a long time. I still have been keeping up with approaching, but I've just been lazy in keeping up with my journal. Right now i'm on spring break, I've just finished my mid-terms which I think I did really well on.

Last night, I went out with a couple guys from the Dallas Lair to a mall. It was pretty empty, but I had a hilarious approach.

I was in Barnes & Noble and I saw this book in the Sex section called Carma Sutra (No, that's not a typo, it was spelled with a C). Basically, the book had diagrams and pointers on how to **** in different positions in CARS. It was a hilarious book. Anyways, I thought it would be a good tool to use as an approach. I saw a tall blonde girl from behind (hadn't seen her face yet) and I sat next to her.

Me: Excuse me, I need an opinion on something.
Her: Yeah?
Me: Well, I'm a virgin and theres this girl who really likes me. I live in a dorm so it's really impersonal. What do you think about having sex in a car for the first time?

It turns out, this woman was a lunatic, bible-belt nutjob. She was also in her 40s (still, she wasn't bad HB 7.5 :whistle: ). She immediately started giving me advice and took me seriously!

Her: You know what? She deserves better than that, and so do you. Don't just do this because you want to lose your virginity, that's disrespectful to her.

I didn't know what to do, I was completely taken aback by her taking me seriously, so I just decided to listen and agree with whatever she said. I meant for my opener to be an obvious joke.

Me: But we like each other for our personalities too. We like each other's personalities too.
Her: Thats good, but you two can wait. I know you might be in a rush to lose your virginity, but once you've lost it, you're NEVER going to have it back. Would you really want to do this?
Me: Hmm, you bring up a good point :woo: (what the hell, Im thinking)
Her: Back then, we didn't have as many options (i'm guessing she meant places to do it in), so a lot of us rushed it. You definately need to wait. When it's the right time and place, you'll know.
Me: uhh, yeah...you might be right.
Her: How old are you?
Me: 19...
Her: I have a 22 year old son who waited until he married to lose his virginity, and he's as happy as ever with his wife.
Me (wanting to get out of here): You know, you might be right, thank you for your advice.
Her: I'm going to be thinking about you.
Me: I'm going to be thinking about you, too.

From this hilarious approach, It's just reinforced in my head that I take most things in conversation too seriously. I wanted to play this thing off as a funny joke to share between me and my target, and, although she was crazy, if I had a sly smile when delivering the opener, then she probably would have known that this was just a joke to come and talk to her. I think I take things too seriously in conversation because I feel as though if I come in really happy and high-energy, I'm exposing myself more. I'm more vulnerable. I need to become more playful and less serious in my interactions.

I've approached 2 girls with nose studs (one last night, one last weekend), and I had good conversations with both. But they eventually ejected, mentioning their boyfriends. They were interested in the beginning, but I must have done something wrong for them to eject and mention their boyfriends.

I think I can look kind of intimidating, I need to smile more and make the girls more comfortable.
 

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I have the same problems in regards to not smiling. Only people who know me really well, or who happen to be really sarcastic seem to get my playful humour. I too can come across as serious when I am really the farthest thing from that.
 

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Hey Brak,

I'm not sure where you are in you're game now but some of the convo is coming across as very scientific and results orientated. It's as if you went into that set saying, "alright I'm either going to get accepted or rejected". Life is not that black and white. Don't limit your experiences. I hope you're not forgeting to have fun!!! Have some opinions, say things for shock factor. You said you thoughts you were talking to a lunatic bible-belt nutjob....ok, then tell her that. Your confidence depends on you expressing your thoughts without filter. Maybe make the convo a little more interesting (ie. Borat style). ex,

Her: You know what? She deserves better than that, and so do you. Don't just do this because you want to lose your virginity, that's disrespectful to her.
You: Ok, I get what you're saying.....I need to buy a nicer car.
Her: No, no, no. It's about two people wanting to be together out of love and respect. Not for lusty, meaningless reasons like that.
You: Ya, I mean I hate wearing condoms so finding a girl who hasn't poled 50 guys would be ideal.
Her: Ok, ummmm.
You: You think she'd put out if I took her to Applebees' instead of Wendys?

etc, etc

My advice would be to listen to more comedians/funny entertaining things. What excites, moves, or intrigues you about life. Truthfully, not what some pua tells you is intriguing. You're on the right track though. Don't overanalyze, just do it.
 

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Hey Brak,

I'm not sure where you are in you're game now but some of the convo is coming across as very scientific and results orientated. It's as if you went into that set saying, "alright I'm either going to get accepted or rejected". Life is not that black and white. Don't limit your experiences. I hope you're not forgeting to have fun!!! Have some opinions, say things for shock factor. You said you thoughts you were talking to a lunatic bible-belt nutjob....ok, then tell her that. Your confidence depends on you expressing your thoughts without filter. Maybe make the convo a little more interesting (ie. Borat style). ex,

Her: You know what? She deserves better than that, and so do you. Don't just do this because you want to lose your virginity, that's disrespectful to her.
You: Ok, I get what you're saying.....I need to buy a nicer car.
Her: No, no, no. It's about two people wanting to be together out of love and respect. Not for lusty, meaningless reasons like that.
You: Ya, I mean I hate wearing condoms so finding a girl who hasn't poled 50 guys would be ideal.
Her: Ok, ummmm.
You: You think she'd put out if I took her to Applebees' instead of Wendys?

etc, etc

My advice would be to listen to more comedians/funny entertaining things. What excites, moves, or intrigues you about life. Truthfully, not what some pua tells you is intriguing. You're on the right track though. Don't overanalyze, just do it.
yeah I definately agree with everything you said, thefonz. I am naturally more inclinded to lean towards over-analyzing and taking things too seriously. I want to become a man that just has fun with whatever happens. It is really hard especially when hitting on girls. I am way too hard on myself and I always look at what I can do better, not what I have improved on.

I've found out that I am not good at understanding the line between just resting and taking time off of all this and just making excuses. I have done so much, so I feel like I have approached a good amount of times; however, another side of me tells me that I could do way more approaches if I really tried.

I'll update you all on stuff outside of PUA as well.

Over spring break, I pretty much got a job as a waiter during the summer. Not only will this get me some money, but I feel as though this will help me because I will be constantly socializing with people.

I'm practicing my flamenco guitar about an hour a day. During the summer when I don't have work I will bump it up to at least 3 hours a day.

My spanish is going well (almost fluent), and I will start learning Farsi during the summer.

So basically I am just trying to improve upon all aspects of my life. Getting good game is pretty much at the top of the list, though.
 

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You don't learn how to pick up girls like you study for a histroy exam. That's my experience though, and I could be wrong. At some point during the interaction you have to "loose yourself" in the moment. Throw out all goals, scripts, plans and just flow. You get better at flowing by making yourself happy by engaging in topics or styles of conversation that make you feel good. You create these styles or topics through experiences in your daily life. Some things that shape my style are Robert Plant's sexual rants on "I Can't Quit You Babe". Or Danny Carey's hypnotic trance-like drum rythms. Or Howard Stern's relentless hit em hard method of hitting on actress' in interviews. Basically anything that creates inspiration, makes you forget about everything else going on and amplifies your imagination. Creating funny scenarios in my mind makes me feel good. Suddenly shifting from a clown-like interaction to a deeply unasshamed sexual talk makes me feel good. Approaching is great and works, but it really isn't everything. Live life.

Being a waiter can be a rewading experience if you can utilize to express things that are already ingrained in you. But just showing up to work is not enough. I had a hosting job a few years ago in an effort to improve my dj skills but when I didn't like the job, couldn't stand the *****ing of the waitress' behind the scences I just lost all passion for it. My interactions became robotic, uninspired and I just did them same thing with everyone who walked in the door. What I'm saying is, don't just do these things and expect everything to work out for you. Be conscious of what you want, be aware of how you want to grow from your present self by picking up things along the way and reshaping old behaviors. Don't be afraid to let go of some goals too with the new experiences you've picked up. "A foolish consistancy is the hobgoblin of little minds." - Ralph Waldo Emerson.
 

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Saturday March 17

I could have lost my virginity tonight, but I just can't lose it to a girl I'm not very attracted to. If I could only learn how to converse better at parties, be more relaxed, less intimidating, and get out of my own head, I would get girls easily. But that's a lot to work on. I'll briefly go over what happened tonight.

St. Patricks Day at Boston College is a pretty big deal, since there's a ton of irish catholics at BC (i'm not one of them). So I got Jameson whiskey, Baileys, and Guinness to make Irish Carbombs. Since I do not drink that much, I gave a lot of it away to dormmates and friends. They really appreciated it and it helped me out with getting to know more people (I can't deny it, if you have alcohol and connections, you will get a lot more chances to build a huge social circle).

So I gave alcohol away to a few guys who know a LOT of hot girls. They, in turn, invited me to play beer pong (or beirut, whatever) in their room. I went in and, as i expected, there were like 5 hot girls in their room. One of them (not the girl who i could've lost my virginity to) is in my class and I am assure that she is attracted to me (HB 8.6). I introduced myself to some of the guys, and made very small talk with HB 8.6, but then i joined a beer pong game. I was standing next to HB 8.6 and I KNEW she wanted me to talk to her. She occasionaly touched my leg with her leg. It wasn't SOO direct, but it was obvious and definately intentional. I KNEW KNEW KNEW she was attracted to me. The problem is, I've realized that I just don't know what to do at parties. I can cold approach girls at malls and bookstores and hold a conversation, because it's mostly fluff talk. But at parties, I'm ****ed. I don't know how to proceed, so I don't really talk to the girls. Whenever I do, it's boring conversation. I was getting EC from all of the girls, they were wondering who I was, but I didn't do anything about it. This is pretty frustrating, but the only thing to do is work on it.

I left the dorm party after awhile to meet up with friends. We went to an apartment party, where I saw a girl on the softball team (HB 5.5). I talked to her for a bit and teased her about drinking while in softball season. I told her it was her bedtime. She then asked me to dance. I said sure because I didn't know many people at the party.

But this was a bad mistake. I put myself in a bad position. I danced with her and showed her a good time, telling her to go lower, lower, lower. SHE asked me to dance, so I knew she expected me to hook up with her on the dance floor. But the more I danced the more of a bad situation I was in. I looked around because I wanted to dance with other girls. She SENSED this, or maybe I was really obvious :whistle: :p. She then said "if you want to dance with other girls, that's ok." Now I sorta know this girl, and I am not a ****, so I said, "no, you're a great partner." I danced with her some more and then told her I was going to request better music (total lie).

I was so disinterested and she just wanted me more and more. She mirrored me and kept staying close to me. But it just turned me off more and more. I know how girls feel. She asked me if I was going back to upper campus (where freshmen live), and I said yeah, but I'm going to go back with my boys. I gave her my number and I got hers, ad I told her to call me when she got back to upper.

I didn't expect her to call me, but at 2:15 AM, she gave me a call and left me a message: "hey Brak86, this is Kat, when you get this, give me a call."

I didnt return her call.

I don't know how to work a room, and I don't know how to get people really interested in what I say, mostly because I have no clue where to start, where to lead the conversation, etc. I am clueless at social gatherings when people already know each other. It's funny, because I have a lot of close guy friends, and have a lot of girl/guy acquantainces.

I know most guys are chumps and stick to their friends, but I want to be different. This is one of the aspects of my game that needs the most work. I really really do not mean to be arrogant, but I am POSITIVE that a lot of girls have been initially attracted to me. It's just frustrating that I can't take advantage of the situation.

I've realized that in college, as a matter of fact, in most social settings where you will see people again, it is not wise to be so direct and so forward at first. You have to get to know a lot of people and jsut talk to the girls a lot. I'm worried about being LJBFed, but the guys that get the most girls have a lot of friends that are girls and hang out with them a lot. College, high school, and other closed social gatherings seem to be like this.
 
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Yo bro. At parties I think you should just look to have fun. For example I was at a party with a bunch of my ppl and I knew a ton of ppl there. All azn party lol. And there was like one hot girl and I go and talk to her and she is cold. But you know it didn't matter cuz I went back and continued to chill with my ppl and have a ball. I mean like who cares right.
WHen I go to parties and think wow I;m going to talk to girls, it usually puts way too much pressure on me and then I finally loosen up and I can talk to people. Hell I'm not saying I can pull girls from parties, but I dunno it doesn't interest me so much. Anyways hope that you got something from my meandering discussion
 

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kidkoala said:
Yo bro. At parties I think you should just look to have fun. For example I was at a party with a bunch of my ppl and I knew a ton of ppl there. All azn party lol. And there was like one hot girl and I go and talk to her and she is cold. But you know it didn't matter cuz I went back and continued to chill with my ppl and have a ball. I mean like who cares right.
WHen I go to parties and think wow I;m going to talk to girls, it usually puts way too much pressure on me and then I finally loosen up and I can talk to people. Hell I'm not saying I can pull girls from parties, but I dunno it doesn't interest me so much. Anyways hope that you got something from my meandering discussion

thanks a lot for the advice...yeah i totally know what you mean and i agree. I just usually forget about this in the moment. Plus, even though we should primarily focus on having fun, at the same time, we want to improve ourselves with the ladies, so don't you think it's important to have some pressure and some thoughts about approaching girls?
 

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it reminds me a lot of what someone quite dear to me once said in reference to my dancing: you have to try without trying. Thats the trick. :), Anyways I think we just think its a party and therefore its a lot harder. Limiting belief eh. I dunno i think you can say the same things you would in day game.
 

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What up homes....

I think you should have rejected that girl right off the bat. I know you're not a **** but I think you'll find the more your game improves the more you'll have to deal with such situations. Not only must you be comfortable getting rejected, you must get used to rejecting others. You're only hurting yourself.
 
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