Brak86's Journal

[thefonz]

Ouch, sooo close.

Good job making a move though. Maybe you moved a little too fast rather than just enjoying the moment. Had you spent more time massaging her and talking calmly while you were doing it you could have raised her IOI a bit more. Keep doing this until it becomes the standard of the present enviroment, you rubbing her and her slipping into ecstacy. Rather than trying to plot everything out before hand take it one step at a time. It seemed you were so intent on getting that Kclose that you maybe didn't realize you were on the path to a Lay close. If you take it slowly and calmy it shows confidence.

Anyways, awesome job as always. I think you should be giving ME advice at this point

 

[Microphone Fiend]

Ive been both sides of the fence...gettin rejected and not trying at all, and your right man, it feels MUCH better getting rejected. Although I think she wanted you...oh well her loss, nice to see you still on your grind

 

[Charm]

Brak,

Since you gave me some suggestions in my Kiss Kiss Bang Bang thread, ill share my experience with you here.

First, you went to that dance with that girl but missed the kiss-close at the end with a rejection "no". By the time you had reached the house, she had lost interest in you. Remember the sayings, "always leave her wanting more" and the saying "A sure way to be unhappy is to give a girl everything she wants"?

Here's some ideas: At the concert, you could have left her for a few minutes. I like to call this "pulling the terminator" (Ill be back, wait here for me). Then leave, no explanation as to whats going on. Go walk around for a few minutes out of sight, and when you get back, she'll probably ask where you went. Say something like "I thought I saw someone stalking us and had to go in for a closer look. Everythings clear though, youre safe now that I have returned! *Say this with a ****y grin*"

Leaving creates her temporarily missing your company. Anyway, this is just a technique. As far as keeping her interest levels up, just being the man is what it takes. You definetely could have grabbed her by the hand (NOT INTERLOCKED FINGERS unless she initiates it) and walked her around a bit. Hold her hand where her fingers are held in your grip (not too tightly). LEADING.

Also, you should have k-closed at the dance/before you reached her house. K-CLOSES at the very end of dates IMO put too much pressure AND expectation. Suprise women with the k-close by turning their face towards you by guiding the bottom of their chin, make eye-contact and kiss her. Do not hesitate and dont make it a long kiss unless she responds accordingly. Show her who the MAN is.

Lastly, if you do go in for a kiss and she turns her face and then asks "what are you trying to do". Never respond with "im trying to kiss you (sounds too desperate)". Remember, YOU ARE THE PRIZE. Say something extremely arrogant instead. "I thought you'd have prefered an amazing kiss to true love. " and then watch for her reaction. This is a modification of the Opener "Do you prefer great sex or true love?" but works well in this situation. Try to think of this as a fire that has burned down to the embers but if tended correctly, can still be re-initiated. Not all hope is lost! If you blow too hard (come off being too desperate ie. "Im trying to kiss you") then you blow out the fire permanently. But, with a MANly comment you might get things heated up again for that moment and k-close.

Moving along.

You had a girl at your house, watching a movie, who DEFINETELY wanted a f-close and would have given it to you but it looks like you screwed it up by giving her too much kino too quickly. I agree with the fonz that more time massaging would have been ideal but the thing is dude, you should have said, "to really show you my awesome massage skills, youll have to lay down on your stomach. here" (then hold out your hand) and lead her to your bedroom, tell her to lay down on your bed. From here, an f-close is much easier.

Lets say that you never did the massage thing though. You picked the wrong movie imo. You picked one she'd already seen. At the very least, you want a movie that escalates her emotions. Do some research and you'll find lots mentioned on this forum. Some even a guy can bear to watch ie. Kingdom of Heaven, Cassanova, etc. If you have taken more than an hour to k-close, you've taken too long. Some of us have never even finished a movie before! Also, before the movie starts tell her to turn her phone ringer off (its your house, you make the rules!). Get some popcorn, a glass of wine if you got a bottle, etc. All of these things will help in your future gaming strategy.

She pulled the boyfriend card on you and it made you hesitant. What you could have done was make her feel less like a slvt, which is what she wanted you to do. Say things like "You have the prettiest smile." or "Feeling lucky? I am... (pause for a second) feeling lucky to have you over here with me (k-close bam!)"

Can you describe in detail the Two Part Kiss opener? Does Mickey use any others?

 

[Mickey J]

Why Charm you make it sound oh so easy. Obviously if HB: Tall wouldn't even kiss Brak at this point there is no way in hell she's going to go into his room and get on his on his bed. You're thinking in ideals man, that ****'s like Communism... only good in theory.

Anyway


Here is two part kiss the way I first learned it. This and an infinite number of other articles on PU can be found at www.bristollair.com

Two-Part Kiss Opener

by Style

If a guy is dating a girl, and she goes out to a bar... and gets drunk and makes out with a GIRL for fun, is it cheating?

Yeah, I know, new opinion openers are getting tired. But there IS a hole in opinion openers, and this one fills it. The problem is that the most commonly used opinion openers (jealous girlfriend, david bowie, who lies more, etc) appeal mostly to women. And most of us are approaching MIXED sets.

So this new one, which I've been using consistently for months now (and am loathe to give away but just can't help myself for some reason), is designed to do several things. It appeals to guys first and foremost; women get super- into it also; and it provides a way to AMOG guys in front of women.

So, without further ado (okay, maybe a little more ado), I humbly present for your consideration...The Two-Part Kiss Opener.

PUA: Hey guys, we're having a debate and need a quick opinion on something. If a guy is dating a girl, and she goes out to a bar with her friends one night and makes out with a guy just for fun, is it cheating?
GROUP: Yeah, it's cheating.
PUA: Okay, that makes sense. So here's the real question. And I'll tell you why I'm asking in a second: If she goes out and gets drunk and makes out with a GIRL for fun, is it cheating?
GROUP: (the responses will vary, but if any guys say "no," you can bust on them for having a double-standard etc.)
PUA: Okay. Interesting. The reason I'm asking is because my friend over there has been dating this girl. And she likes to go out and get drunk and make out with girls. Now, some guys might be into that, but it pisses him off and he thinks it's cheating. She says it isn't. So we were trying to figure out who was right.
GROUP: (discussion ensues, which you will have to soon cut off and move into your next piece of material because they will go on and on about this and stale the topic and convo)

Enjoy. It's a nice change of pace for those who love Jealous Girlfriend but are tired of it. Report back on your results.

Style


I've tailored it here and there to fit my needs but overall it's the same opener.

Other than two-part kiss I've been known to open with dental floss
DENTAL FLOSS (Style and Mystery) Hey guys, I need to get your opinion on something. It's very important, and we need a woman's perspective. It's a matter of life and death.. My friend and I were having a debate and your answer could completely change my entire life....

Do you brush before floss or floss before brush? No one knows… and from time to time I'll use a hybrid of these two G-string openers.
G-String Opener

by Badboy

this is one really crazy opener.
Funny like hell, try it

G-string opener
Hey girls, I need female opinion on something..please give me one advice...
My friend totally ****ed up his relationship with his GF.
Actually they are still together...into love with each other... but its going wrong way...
Girls :what, what?
Last month, he cheated his Gf with another girl from college, and Gf found g-string from that girl in a toilete next day.After big drama, he honestly told her that he actually has a fetish on dressing into girls underwear...
Now. Month after, my friend told me, that his Gf, found that as a totall turn on, and she request from him almost every night to dressinto her underwear....he told me he feels really stupid walking around his house in girls undderwear......what do you think he should do now??Is it a time to tell her?? Cause they are totally in love??

opener is field-tested, works beautifull....
most of times chicks will think you actually talk about yourself...
girl :you are actually asking for yourself, arent you??
me:yes...wow...yes I am shy... anyway.. what kind of panties do you have on yourself now?? what color.. I really love pink ones..show me....

just continue rollplaying... its so funny..

Btw. this is real life story from my life...
From rocker44's Ultimate Opener Collection

G-STRING (Badboy) “Hey guys, you won’t believe what’s going on with a friend of mine and his girlfriend. They’ve been dating each other for six months now, and my friend really loves her. But they had this big fight a few weeks ago, and she went to visit her mother to cool down.

While she was gone, my friend was so depressed, that he ended up hooking up with some random girl he met in a club.

Anyway, a few days later, his girlfriend comes back, and she finds this girl’s thong panties in the bathroom, and she KNOWS this thong isn’t hers.

So she confronts my friend on this, and he lies and says that the panties are his! And that he likes to dress up in women’s underwear. So I don’t know if his girlfriend knew he was lying and just wanted to punish him, or if she really is into this or not, but she said she thinks that’s really kinky and wants him to wear women’s underwear around the house.

So he’s been doing this for a few weeks now and is absolutely… MISERABLE!”

“So I think he should just come clean and let his girlfriend know what happened. What do you guys think? How important is trust in a relationship? Or do you think some things should remain hidden, even if it means being miserable?”

Badboy


Hope this helps guys

 

[Charm]

Mickey,

You are right about theory and any of us who go out and work at PU know that sometimes a GREAT theory is complete horse poo in action and sometimes the dumbest stuff works wonders. You are right that I made it sound easy, hence, physics and Pick-Up are both largely based on empirical evidence and experiences and in many cases the exact results cannot be repeated like a science lab experiment.

GREAT PU openers.

Why Charm you make it sound oh so easy. Obviously if HB: Tall wouldn't even kiss Brak at this point there is no way in hell she's going to go into his room and get on his on his bed. You're thinking in ideals man, that ****'s like Communism... only good in theory.

Anyway


Here is two part kiss the way I first learned it. This and an infinite number of other articles on PU can be found at www.bristollair.com

Two-Part Kiss Opener

by Style

If a guy is dating a girl, and she goes out to a bar... and gets drunk and makes out with a GIRL for fun, is it cheating?

Yeah, I know, new opinion openers are getting tired. But there IS a hole in opinion openers, and this one fills it. The problem is that the most commonly used opinion openers (jealous girlfriend, david bowie, who lies more, etc) appeal mostly to women. And most of us are approaching MIXED sets.

So this new one, which I've been using consistently for months now (and am loathe to give away but just can't help myself for some reason), is designed to do several things. It appeals to guys first and foremost; women get super- into it also; and it provides a way to AMOG guys in front of women.

So, without further ado (okay, maybe a little more ado), I humbly present for your consideration...The Two-Part Kiss Opener.

PUA: Hey guys, we're having a debate and need a quick opinion on something. If a guy is dating a girl, and she goes out to a bar with her friends one night and makes out with a guy just for fun, is it cheating?
GROUP: Yeah, it's cheating.
PUA: Okay, that makes sense. So here's the real question. And I'll tell you why I'm asking in a second: If she goes out and gets drunk and makes out with a GIRL for fun, is it cheating?
GROUP: (the responses will vary, but if any guys say "no," you can bust on them for having a double-standard etc.)
PUA: Okay. Interesting. The reason I'm asking is because my friend over there has been dating this girl. And she likes to go out and get drunk and make out with girls. Now, some guys might be into that, but it pisses him off and he thinks it's cheating. She says it isn't. So we were trying to figure out who was right.
GROUP: (discussion ensues, which you will have to soon cut off and move into your next piece of material because they will go on and on about this and stale the topic and convo)

Enjoy. It's a nice change of pace for those who love Jealous Girlfriend but are tired of it. Report back on your results.

Style


I've tailored it here and there to fit my needs but overall it's the same opener.

Other than two-part kiss I've been known to open with dental floss
DENTAL FLOSS (Style and Mystery) Hey guys, I need to get your opinion on something. It's very important, and we need a woman's perspective. It's a matter of life and death.. My friend and I were having a debate and your answer could completely change my entire life....

Do you brush before floss or floss before brush? No one knows… and from time to time I'll use a hybrid of these two G-string openers.
G-String Opener

by Badboy

this is one really crazy opener.
Funny like hell, try it

G-string opener
Hey girls, I need female opinion on something..please give me one advice...
My friend totally ****ed up his relationship with his GF.
Actually they are still together...into love with each other... but its going wrong way...
Girls :what, what?
Last month, he cheated his Gf with another girl from college, and Gf found g-string from that girl in a toilete next day.After big drama, he honestly told her that he actually has a fetish on dressing into girls underwear...
Now. Month after, my friend told me, that his Gf, found that as a totall turn on, and she request from him almost every night to dressinto her underwear....he told me he feels really stupid walking around his house in girls undderwear......what do you think he should do now??Is it a time to tell her?? Cause they are totally in love??

opener is field-tested, works beautifull....
most of times chicks will think you actually talk about yourself...
girl :you are actually asking for yourself, arent you??
me:yes...wow...yes I am shy... anyway.. what kind of panties do you have on yourself now?? what color.. I really love pink ones..show me....

just continue rollplaying... its so funny..

Btw. this is real life story from my life...
From rocker44's Ultimate Opener Collection

G-STRING (Badboy) “Hey guys, you won’t believe what’s going on with a friend of mine and his girlfriend. They’ve been dating each other for six months now, and my friend really loves her. But they had this big fight a few weeks ago, and she went to visit her mother to cool down.

While she was gone, my friend was so depressed, that he ended up hooking up with some random girl he met in a club.

Anyway, a few days later, his girlfriend comes back, and she finds this girl’s thong panties in the bathroom, and she KNOWS this thong isn’t hers.

So she confronts my friend on this, and he lies and says that the panties are his! And that he likes to dress up in women’s underwear. So I don’t know if his girlfriend knew he was lying and just wanted to punish him, or if she really is into this or not, but she said she thinks that’s really kinky and wants him to wear women’s underwear around the house.

So he’s been doing this for a few weeks now and is absolutely… MISERABLE!”

“So I think he should just come clean and let his girlfriend know what happened. What do you guys think? How important is trust in a relationship? Or do you think some things should remain hidden, even if it means being miserable?”

Badboy


Hope this helps guys

 

[AverageJoe5]

Just readying your progress inspires me to want to go out. I've been wanting to do cold approachs for the longest time, but have been hestitant due to fear. Except now I feel more confident to step it up. I'm going to wait a week though, read up on different things such as eliciting values, c+f, etc., and get going on it when school starts next week. Your doing excellent man. Keep up the great job!

 

[Mickey J]

Charm you're right about stuff working that isn't logical. All the time I open hired guns by saying "you know why you suck?" I don't say it in a mean way and always have a smile on. The girl always asks "why do I suck?" Never once have they said **** off. I then explain that they suck because they're working and I want to meet them. So here it is:

ME: You know why you suck? (Smile)
HB Hired Gun: Why do I suck?
ME: Because you're working and I wanted to meet you. After this you just vibe with her

It's kinda like direct game but with a twist

 

[Brak86]

Friday January 5,

Ok, I was lazy and procrastinated writing my field report. Unfortunately, I forgot pretty much everything in my interactions. However, I've just realized that every single time I've gone out to do approaches, I've either realized/improved/learned/experienced something new. Something different has happened to me every single time I've gone out. They're like mini-breakthroughs. So despite me forgetting my approaches, I'd like to point out two things that happened to me:

1)I approached an HB9+. If you have kept up with my journal, you'd have seen that I haven't deemed any girl I've approached over an HB9. This is because I don't limit my ratings to "everyday" girls. I compare girls I see in the street to celebrities. That is why I rarely give girls an HB9 rating. Finally, however, I spotted an HB9.3 at a Barnes & Noble (I'm still in Texas on X-mas break). Wow, she was absolutely stunning, especially my taste. She was blonde, and had both feminine yet sexy features about her. Above all, I love sex appeal and I love femininity in girls. I guess that is why I especially like celebrities such as Carmella Decesare, Jessica Biel, and Jessica Alba (but who doesn't ).

Nevertheless, the approach was terrible. But it was the fact that I managed to approach her that suprised me and, in turn, made me realize that this was a mini-breakthrough in my game. Even though I saw how hot she was, I did not intend to sarge her because I knew I would start sarging girls when my wing came. You see, I tend to have an "Off-On" switch when it comes to approaching. When I plan a time to go out with wings, or when I go out solely with the intent to sarge, I can now usually approach most girls. However, I need to always be "on." A couple days ago, I walked past a cute girl who gave me an incredible, genuine smile. However, that day, I was not "On" approach mode, so I just walked past and soon regretted it.

Anyways, I was sitting on the other side of the cafe, waiting for this wing to come whom I had not met before (he turned out to be a great guy. And, coincedentally, we happen to know a lot of the same people. He knows my brothers girlfriend. Weird). I see HB9.3 order a coffee and then sit down by herself. She was just looking about. She neither had a book, nor magazine to keep her occupied. She was just sitting there. I thought that she was probably waiting for someone. I appreciated her femininity, but I already decided in my head to not approach.

But something happened. I don't know how or why I did it. But I just stood up and walked over to her. From close up, she wasn't as glorified, but she still was a 9.3 nonetheless. I used my direct opener and she scanned me with her eyes. I distinctly remember her ultra small pupils gazing at me (Definately not an IOI ). She told me she was engaged (I looked down to see a ring that I had no realized before). But I continued 2 minutes of small talk. I told her that even though this sounds corny, I like hearing about marriage proposals. She told me it wasn't anything special. It was x-mas eve and her husband proposed to her as they were sitting by their xmas tree and a fire. I told her that that is nice. I really believed it too. I guess I always will be somewhat of a romantic. I excused myself soon after. I was happy that I did it.

2)Another mini-breakthrough I had was when I approached an asian woman at the food court in the North Park Mall. I knew before I approached that she worked at the mall, she was just on a dinner break. And she was eating alone. I approached her directly, and she asked if my friend bet me to talk to her (I guess she saw my wing). I told her the truth and said no, although I probably should have gone with Juggler's advice and said yes.

Anyways, after some fluff talk, my wing joined us and we talked a bit more. Now this approach was not that great either, but after I found out that she graduated college in 1995 (you do the math), I told her "ohhh...well you're too old for me." Her response was golden. Her mouth kind of dropped (like when I used an SOI awhile back on a girl in boston) and she said "no I'm nott" (IOI and trying to QUALIFY herself). Since I was on such an adrenaline rush, I did not notice that a)according to my wing, she gave me a distinct look with her eyes and b)I could have capitalized by getting her number. Nevertheless, I was happy that I used this line. I didn't even consciously use the line though, it just came out of nowhere. I take this as a sign that I am beginning to internalize the game.

I am still too attached to the outcome and I am still letting my adrenaline conquer my body. I need to be more comfortable so that I will consequently be smoother.

 

[Mickey J]

I've been using the you're too old/young for me a lot lately and women always respond with the "NO I"m not!" I don't think many guys ever say that sort of thing to a woman so they have no idea what to with it. Girls hate being told they can't have something.

Come home Brak!!!

 

[Brak86]

Friday January 12,

Well, I somewhat acted on my frustration from last post. Remember when I said that I only really approach women when I choose certain days to approach women? Well, today I got a girl's number and I wasn't even out for the purpose of approaching women. As a matter of fact, I was with my mom. However, I had met this girl before, I just bumped into her again, so don't think that it was a completely cold approach.

I was at Body World, that new exhibit that is now on throughout the nation with my mom. Very interesting exhibit. Anyways, I noticed a lot of hot girls there but they were all with boyfriends. This would actually be a great date place because it is so unconventional. I saw one girl (HB7.4), however, with a guy who was clearly gay. I knew I had seen her before, but I couldnt figure out where and when. I moved on, because I was out to be with my mom, not to approach women.

But I was at the last room of the exhibit and I walked past this girl. We locked eyes, and recognized each other. We had met through our close friend a few months ago. She actually goes to college pretty close to me. I small talked with her for awhile (my mom actually walked off when I started talking to this girl. My mom is an awesome wing :rockon: ). But I eventually called my mom over and introduced her to HB7.4.

I could tell that she's attracted to me at least a bit. I dont think she necessarily WANTS ME BAD now, but she talked really excitedly and really fast and she told me about her friend who plans trips and invited me to come sometime. I took them as IOIs. I am a lot better now at thinking that what most women do are IOIs. I #closed her, but she was really awkward about it. I think she's interested, because she was a bit clumsy when I got her number. I was talking and she would interject and then stop and she was just acting very jumpity. Like I said, I take the high, girly energy as an IOI.

I am happy for my #close, yet I can't shake off the fact that I need to be more playful and sexual throughout my conversations. I take things too seriously and I often times put on a too-cool-for-school, soft-spoked, un-energetic, apathetic attitude when I talk to women. In actuality, you need to be somewhat energetic and fun. I know I have to do this, yet it is hard to do.

 

[Heyjose25points]

I feel ya Brak, I am happy for my #close, yet I can't shake off the fact that I need to be more playful and sexual throughout my conversations. I take things too seriously and I often times put on a too-cool-for-school, soft-spoked, un-energetic, apathetic attitude when I talk to women. In actuality, you need to be somewhat energetic and fun. I know I have to do this, yet it is hard to do.

I feel ya Brak, i'm the same way. During interactions, i find out about them but tend to forget to be playful or have sexual conversation. I think as time goes on, we'll figure it out.

 

[driveon]

thanks for the reply, i gotta check your thread tomorrow when i get a chance.

 

[Microphone Fiend]

way to use your mom as social proof, lol

 

[Brak86]

Friday, January 19

I had a pretty successful classroom FR today even though it was pretty unconventional. But before I get to that, I'd like to explain what's in store for me in the future in regards to PU.

A fellow aspiring DJ (Mr. Awesome) and I decided that, since PU is one of our top priorities other than work/school, we wanted to dedicate more time to approaching women. But, like any hobby, it takes a lot of work to become really good. Most people who are serious about their passions work on them at least 3-4 times a week.

So we decided to get a group of 6 aspiring DJs to go out 2-4 times a week. We don't want to be exclusive, but we wanted to have a group of guys who are seriously dedicated, want to have FUN and understand that getting good at PU takes work. I'm going to try to go out 3-4 times a week, even though my college is 30-40 minutes outside the city. But, if that's what it takes, so be it. I want to continue getting good grades, so if PU is getting in the way, I'll decrease the consistency.

We had a meeting last night at an empty McDonalds, and we're planning on approaching women (we wouldn't all 6 go out at the same time, cause that's weird) with consistency when our schedules are finalized. We talked about each other's goals and sticking points amongst other stuff (for example, we talked about recording our conversations so that we could pinpoint our mistakes). Hopefully my FRs will help you guys (even you all who are way better than me) and/or inspire those of you who are trying to start approaching but are scared.

But now let me tell you my classroom FR:

During the meeting, a couple of us stated that we wanted to get better at classroom game. So one of the aspiring DJs (Big), gave us his advice. One of the things he mentioned was passing notes to a girl in class. I thought it was a good idea, and I wanted to try it sometime. But I didn't expect that I would be using it today!

I walked into Math class today and started talkign to one of my friends. I sat down next to him, not realizing that to my other side was an HB7.3. I never realized until I stopped talking to my friend. I wanted to open her, but I was a little nervous, and I wasn't planning on opening now.

Class started, and our teacher was sooo boring. In the middle of talking about integrals, he went off on a HUGE tangent and started talking about the author, Chaucer. So I took this as a way to open HB 7.3.

Me (whispering): Is he kidding? This isn't English class.
Her: ahaha I know, I don't know what he's doing.

But I didn't really have anything to say after that, because I couldn't start asking her name and such in the middle of class. It would have been a bit off. I then remembered the advice that Big gave us last night. The note opener is nice because it's very childish and innocent, but I still hesitated for 15 minutes. But I finally said what the hell and tore a sheet of paper. My friend to the left of me and the HB7.3 to the right of me looked at me tearing the sheet of paper.

I drew a tic-tac-toe game on the sheet of paper, drew an X in the middle square and above it wrote this and passed it to her. I saved the note after class so that I could give you all a totally accurate recount:

Me: I'm bored
Her: This is horrible

as we played tic-tac-toe, we wrote messages back and forth after placing our X or O. Here is the rest of the note conversation:

Me: [Our teacher] kind of looks like a skeleton.
Her: That's not very nice but I can see it.
Me: Don't pretend that you're a good person (as she saw this, I noticed her smile)
Her: Haha fine he looks like a skeleton who prolly died of boredom.
Me: Well, he's definately killing me...
Her: He thinks he's an English professor
Me: I guess it's better than Math. What's your name by the way?
Her: I'd rather have math than Lit. Erica, yours? (IOI)
Me: Agree to disagree. I'm Daniel...are you from the South? (statement assumption. Juggler encourages using these instead of asking questions).
Her: No why?
Me: I am and I thought I could tell you were but I guess I'm not Ms. Cleo.
Her: Nope, your new profession is not in reading people. I'm from the Midwest, where in the south?
Me: Where the best cowboy boots are made...Texas. Where are you from?(also a Juggler method. Don't give her a bland straight answer at first. Get her interest).
Her: Wow haha. I'm from the land where nothing happens...Michigan. (she's definately playing along. IOI).
Me: I'm so sorry. Anyways, I have to start listening now. I don't want the skeleton to fail me.
Her: Ok you do that. I'll continue to tune him out. Nice meeting you.

As class ended, I fluffed with her for like a minute, although she wasn't nearly as responsive as I thought she'd be. Maybe I have too good of note game . I did not #close because I barely verbally conversed with her. But I'll see her the rest of the semester, and I'm just trying to slowly get to know people in my classes. As always, I welcome comments and more importantly, criticisms.

 

[Charm]

You never needed to converse with her silly. You had the perfect opportunity to number close her during the note passing phase.

Me: Write down your number, you have a lot to learn about tic-tac-toe and I'll be calling you to setup your next lesson.

 

[Brak86]

It's 5:30 A.M. here in Boston. It took me 5 hours to finish my work in my new, intense spanish class. Even though I should probably go to sleep now, I want some time to be awake.

Saturday January 20,

I went to the pru with my wings Doc H. and KidKoala. We did a bunch of sets. I don't remember the exact conversations yet again, but according to Juggler that is good. It means that I am beginning to be less and less in my head when I converse with women. I'll just briefly summarize what happened with some of my approaches.

I got blown out my first 2 sets. I went direct on both of them, but I approached horribly. The first lonewolf I used bad tone and had bad BL. She told me that she was waiting for her bf and looked at me strangely . The next girl responded to my opener with "ok" and kept on walking. Ouch ahhaah.

I approached the next girl at the food court. She was by herself. I used much better BL and voice tonality. I ended up talking with her for about 20 minutes. She was a HB 7.8 who was strange, but interesting. She seemed to not be fazed by a random guy approaching her. Some things i remember from this conversation:
-When she found out my age, she said "wow, you're pretty ballsy for a 19 year old (she was 24). I responded with "well, when I see something I like, I go for it."
-After the initial approach, I used a COLD READ and asked her how long she's been doing Yoga. She said, "why do you think I do yoga?" And i told her "because I thought you have good posture. That's why I approached you." She then said, "hahaa my cheerleading coach used to tell me that." I was right, but it was bs. But stuff like this make the conversation interesting. I'm still in my head too much and I try to use too many techniques, I rely on techniques to VIBE and to make my conversations interesting.
-She mentioned she had a bf one point in the conversation, who is a 28 year old dentist. She told me that they started dating after she kept going back for appointments just to see him. However, she did mention that she was having problems with her bf at the moment. I took that as an IOI.
-I had great BL throughout the interaction. I leaned back instead of into her.
-I did 2 more COLD READS on her (are you from the south? I forgot the other one) I was wrong on both, and she made fun of me. I accused her of lying that she was once a cheerleader.
I asked her for her number eventually, but she said again that she had a bf. If I was smoother I could ahve gotten her number. She was a freak, I could tell. She told me she didn't like people, though. :crackup:

I approached a girl at Saks HB 8.2. I found out she was from Honduras, so I spoke some Spanish with her (hehehe im cheating a little). We talked about our favorite cities because we have both traveled a lot. We talked about her having friends in Texas when she found out I was from there. I noticed her eyes were dilated and even though she was tan, she looked a little flushed. I #CLOSED her, but i forgot her name. ****. I'll get one of my friends to call her and pretend like it's a wrong number and get her name. Or I might take the sincere route and tell her I was a little nervous so I forgot her name.

One of my sticking points has been opening groups. Doc H., however, loves approaching groups. He is very good at it. I wanted to get over my fear, so I opened a few groups with him, all of them went really well. We used the TWO-PART-KISS OPENER:

We opened a 2 set (asian HB 7.3 and blonde HB 7.1). They were very fun and they were DEFINATELY into us. We had a lot of fun with them. I did a great TAKEAWAY by turning my back to them when they said something weird and saying "you two are terrible." They laughed hard. I noticed the blonde girl looking at me and playing with her hair. We should have transitioned from the opener to getting to know them by saying "you two are fun, what are you alls names?" But we didn't. We could have easily #closed them.

We opened a 3 set of girls. I think they were in highschool, but 2 were pretty cute. Once again the girls were attracted to us and we could have number closed, but we didnt. We decided that from now on we will always go for the number.

Approached a 2 set of girls, one could have been cute but she had a moustache :nono: . They enjoyed it as well.

I promise I'll get a voice recorder as soon as possible because I want to retain the whole conversations of my FRs.

 

[Heyjose25points]

approached the next girl at the food court. She was by herself. I used much better BL and voice tonality. I ended up talking with her for about 20 minutes. She was a HB 7.8 who was strange, but interesting. She seemed to not be fazed by a random guy approaching her. Some things i remember from this conversation:
-When she found out my age, she said "wow, you're pretty ballsy for a 19 year old (she was 24). I responded with "well, when I see something I like, I go for it."
-After the initial approach, I used a COLD READ and asked her how long she's been doing Yoga. She said, "why do you think I do yoga?" And i told her "because I thought you have good posture. That's why I approached you." She then said, "hahaa my cheerleading coach used to tell me that." I was right, but it was bs. But stuff like this make the conversation interesting. I'm still in my head too much and I try to use too many techniques, I rely on techniques to VIBE and to make my conversations interesting.
-She mentioned she had a bf one point in the conversation, who is a 28 year old dentist. She told me that they started dating after she kept going back for appointments just to see him. However, she did mention that she was having problems with her bf at the moment. I took that as an IOI.
-I had great BL throughout the interaction. I leaned back instead of into her.
-I did 2 more COLD READS on her (are you from the south? I forgot the other one) I was wrong on both, and she made fun of me. I accused her of lying that she was once a cheerleader.
I asked her for her number eventually, but she said again that she had a bf. If I was smoother I could ahve gotten her number. She was a freak, I could tell. She told me she didn't like people, though.

AWESOME! Ur progressing further and further. I need to catch up to you, son. The Pretty ballsy remark was pretty funny on her part, which comes to show that most guys won't approach a female during the day, especially at a mall.
Keep it up man!

 

[Mickey J]

HB moustache had more facial hair than all three of us combined.

 

[Charm]

Cold reads are a great technique. So is re-framing what they say back at them in different contexts and on other levels. There are so many possibilities and ways of using language to make interactions more interesting and fun. Keep it up, it sounds like you are having a lot of fun and getting some much needed practice for becoming a highly skilled communicator.

 

[Brak86]

I haven't posted in awhile because last weekend I decided to go on a freshman retreat for my college. Sarging is very important to me; however, so is developing a huge social circle here at college. I want to be well-rounded and balanced. I've still been going out, but lately I've been working a bit more on strengthening my college social life.

There were about 100 kids on the retreat, and they split us up into 10 groups of 10. My group probably had the cutest girls. Through all the ice-breakers we had to get to know each other, I attracted the hottest girl in my group. I am 100% sure she was/still is attracted to me. The problem I had was reinitiating conversation with her. We were on the retreat for the whole weekend, so I saw her a lot. She always got giddy and very smiley whenever I started talking to her; however, many times I was too worried to reinitiate conversation with her because I didn't want to feel desperate.

On Tuesday February 6, (couple days after the retreat)

I got two numbers in one day. One girl was a girl I met on the retreat, she asked me online for my number after i suggest we go out to lunch.

The other girl I had met a long time ago, but I saw her on the subway and reopened her. Turns out we are both from Texas.

I haven't number closed the hot girl in my group from the retreat; however, I made it a point not to facebook her. Today (thursday) she friended me. I knew she would do it.

What I have just realized now is that over the past 2 weeks, after talking to girls and just being cool, I have 6 girls who are potential hook ups. I know every single one of those 6 is attracted to me to at least some extent. I just need to refine my game so I can hook up with them.

I am doing day game this saturday and I am going to parties this weekend. I am also going to Mardi Gras the following weekend, so I'll have a lot to tell you all in the following weeks.