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Today was awesome, especially that 3 set in the food court. We were so in we should have stayed longer but I felt bad about Bob waiting around for us. Anyways be sure to keep in touch while you're in Texas.
Oh and someone said not to leave a voicemail... ALWAYS leave a voicemail
-Mickey J
Oh and someone said not to leave a voicemail... ALWAYS leave a voicemail
-Mickey J
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really? its ok to leave a voicemail? Doin the bootcamp right now...but wasn't sure if I should. Been calllin a girl on the phone every 3 days,but she doesn't answer...but I know its not a flake. Im tempted to.
Wow, what a weekend! I went out on a date, got a KCLOSE, and even managed to pull my balls out and deliver an actual SOI. To top it off, I did at least 15 approaches this weekend with my great wingmen.It's pretty cool when things turn out when you least expect them to. I will try to remember as muchc as I can about each FR but I did so much talking this weekend that I don't really remember what I said. I want to try to bring a sound-recorder with me and hide it so I can give you all more accurate FRs.
Friday December 8th,
Was at B&N in the pru with some of my wings. Noticed a pretty cute girl (HB 6.7) nothing too special. But it was my first approach of the day:
Me: Excuse me, I just saw you standing here and I wanted to come meet you.
Her: Ohh ok, what's your name?
Me: Brak86, what's yours?
Her: ______
We talked for awhile about her going to BU, she was in the pets section looking at a dog book so I asked her if she had a dog. In the middle of the conversation she told me that she was going to LA in 2 weeks (she's in TV or something...) so I told her straight up, "well, I would have asked for your number if you weren't moving so soon." She then said "awww, well i'm sorry." She was a good girl.
Approached a girl who was looking at an art book (HB 7.6). I used a DIRECT opener and she was very open. She must have been at least 26 years old. She turned out to be mexican. I told her I went therethis summer (i really did). We vibed for a bit. I found out that she was vacationing here in Boston with some friends because she loves it so much here. If I was over 21 I would have invited her to a bar or club that weeend, so I did not #CLOSE. While I was talking to her she would sometimes peek back at her book, so maybe I didn't get her interest high enough, but she was really nice.
Saw a girl (HB 6.7) and I knew something was wrong with her as I was walking up to her.
Me:Excuse me, I saw you standing here and I wanted to meet you.
Her: (she looked totally scared. I think she was a bit younger. Very odd too) uhh I have to go... (she walked away pretty fast from me ahhaahah. Well, blowouts will happen.
Mickey and I approached a 3-set in the food court. 2 girls had pretty nice physiques, their friend...not so much :yes:.
We used the TWO-PART-KISS opener (Mickey was the one who actually opened). The girls got into it, and me and mickey busted them. Mickey called one of the girls fiesty and then kept on speaking. Also, one of the girls told us a story about when she was in 6th grade, so I said, "You're in sixth grade?!? Mickey, we should not be talking to these girls." They liked that. Also, one of the girls was trying to explain a hypothetical situation, and she used me as an example:
Her: So if you were to get a girlfriend, would you get mad if she kissed another girl?
Mickey: IF he gets a boyfriend? Wow Brak86, that was harsh.
Her: no no, I'm sure he has a lot of girlfriends.
Me: ahahah first you make fun of me, now you flirt with me?! Stop sending me mixed signals, girl. Which one is it? (I am so much better at coming up with things to say on the spot now, VERY NICE).
But I tell you, Mickey is getting to be pretty damn good at indirect, canned openers. He opens sets with multiple women and he is so good at it. He hooks them, and usually he gets them to excitedly express their opinions. I'm pretty good at vibing after that, so we make a good team. Who knows, maybe we'll be teaching guys one day :rock:
I wanted to practice my canned stuff, because I am not that great at being congruent with the canned opener. I saw a GORGEOUS girl at J.Crew (HB 9.2). She looked pretty young, but she was stunning. I did the 2-PART-KISS opener, but I did not set it up very well. She gave me her opinion and I ejected. Blah. I should have just direct gamed her like the caveman that I am
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Used a direct opener on a girl looking out a window waiting for someone. (I thought that she had a bf, but I approached anyways). It turns out that she DID have a boyfriend (I don't think she was lying). When I shook her hand, I noticed they were wet, and I told her that (I should have asked her if I intimidated her). She said, "yeah, my hands get clammy sometimes."
I came back, pretty exhausted from sarging (yes, you can get tired from sarging). I didnt feel like going out, but I got a call from a guy that I had not partied with. He invited me to a party that he knew was going to be good. I am a bit more nervous at night game, which is probably why I decided to go. Nowadays, I am yielding more to action than to hesitancy. It's great because I want to live an exciting life taking risks (not stupid risks).
I got drunk (not because of easing my social anxiety, but I hadn't gotten drunk in awhile and I wanted to have some fun. After all, I AM in college).
I didn't know that many people there, and I was getting a bit nervous. So I just said **** it and went to the dance floor with a guy that I knew. We approached two girls dancing and we danced with the girls. I danced with my girl for awhile, making sure to break the grinding before she did. I spinned her around a couple times and managed to talk to her on the dance floor. I found out that she rides horses, but is from Boston. I tell her I am Texan and show her my cowboy boots. Eventually, I tell her, "You know, I never expected to meet such a cool girl at this party." BAM! KCLOSE.
I made out with this girl (HB 7.3) for about 15-20 minutes. I was pretty dominant, too. Something about me just made me more sexually aggressive than usual. I would breath on, kiss, and nibble on her neck and then I'd push her against the wall and make out with her. I picked her up once, too I rubbed her ****y (I didn't put my hand in her pants, just outside). She fidgeted some so I guess she liked it. :rockon:
Now, I tried to isolate her, and I brought her to another part of the house (not private) and made out some more with her, but I could not get her alone. She eventually said she had to go, but I mean I'm happy that I made a move. I am becoming less reserved with my sexuality. Plus, a lot of the guys there saw me hooking-up with this chick, while they went empty-handed.
Friday December 8th,
Was at B&N in the pru with some of my wings. Noticed a pretty cute girl (HB 6.7) nothing too special. But it was my first approach of the day:
Me: Excuse me, I just saw you standing here and I wanted to come meet you.
Her: Ohh ok, what's your name?
Me: Brak86, what's yours?
Her: ______
We talked for awhile about her going to BU, she was in the pets section looking at a dog book so I asked her if she had a dog. In the middle of the conversation she told me that she was going to LA in 2 weeks (she's in TV or something...) so I told her straight up, "well, I would have asked for your number if you weren't moving so soon." She then said "awww, well i'm sorry." She was a good girl.
Approached a girl who was looking at an art book (HB 7.6). I used a DIRECT opener and she was very open. She must have been at least 26 years old. She turned out to be mexican. I told her I went therethis summer (i really did). We vibed for a bit. I found out that she was vacationing here in Boston with some friends because she loves it so much here. If I was over 21 I would have invited her to a bar or club that weeend, so I did not #CLOSE. While I was talking to her she would sometimes peek back at her book, so maybe I didn't get her interest high enough, but she was really nice.
Saw a girl (HB 6.7) and I knew something was wrong with her as I was walking up to her.
Me:Excuse me, I saw you standing here and I wanted to meet you.
Her: (she looked totally scared. I think she was a bit younger. Very odd too) uhh I have to go... (she walked away pretty fast from me ahhaahah. Well, blowouts will happen.
Mickey and I approached a 3-set in the food court. 2 girls had pretty nice physiques, their friend...not so much :yes:.
We used the TWO-PART-KISS opener (Mickey was the one who actually opened). The girls got into it, and me and mickey busted them. Mickey called one of the girls fiesty and then kept on speaking. Also, one of the girls told us a story about when she was in 6th grade, so I said, "You're in sixth grade?!? Mickey, we should not be talking to these girls." They liked that. Also, one of the girls was trying to explain a hypothetical situation, and she used me as an example:
Her: So if you were to get a girlfriend, would you get mad if she kissed another girl?
Mickey: IF he gets a boyfriend? Wow Brak86, that was harsh.
Her: no no, I'm sure he has a lot of girlfriends.
Me: ahahah first you make fun of me, now you flirt with me?! Stop sending me mixed signals, girl. Which one is it? (I am so much better at coming up with things to say on the spot now, VERY NICE).
But I tell you, Mickey is getting to be pretty damn good at indirect, canned openers. He opens sets with multiple women and he is so good at it. He hooks them, and usually he gets them to excitedly express their opinions. I'm pretty good at vibing after that, so we make a good team. Who knows, maybe we'll be teaching guys one day :rock:
I wanted to practice my canned stuff, because I am not that great at being congruent with the canned opener. I saw a GORGEOUS girl at J.Crew (HB 9.2). She looked pretty young, but she was stunning. I did the 2-PART-KISS opener, but I did not set it up very well. She gave me her opinion and I ejected. Blah. I should have just direct gamed her like the caveman that I am
.Used a direct opener on a girl looking out a window waiting for someone. (I thought that she had a bf, but I approached anyways). It turns out that she DID have a boyfriend (I don't think she was lying). When I shook her hand, I noticed they were wet, and I told her that (I should have asked her if I intimidated her). She said, "yeah, my hands get clammy sometimes."
I came back, pretty exhausted from sarging (yes, you can get tired from sarging). I didnt feel like going out, but I got a call from a guy that I had not partied with. He invited me to a party that he knew was going to be good. I am a bit more nervous at night game, which is probably why I decided to go. Nowadays, I am yielding more to action than to hesitancy. It's great because I want to live an exciting life taking risks (not stupid risks).
I got drunk (not because of easing my social anxiety, but I hadn't gotten drunk in awhile and I wanted to have some fun. After all, I AM in college).
I didn't know that many people there, and I was getting a bit nervous. So I just said **** it and went to the dance floor with a guy that I knew. We approached two girls dancing and we danced with the girls. I danced with my girl for awhile, making sure to break the grinding before she did. I spinned her around a couple times and managed to talk to her on the dance floor. I found out that she rides horses, but is from Boston. I tell her I am Texan and show her my cowboy boots. Eventually, I tell her, "You know, I never expected to meet such a cool girl at this party." BAM! KCLOSE.
I made out with this girl (HB 7.3) for about 15-20 minutes. I was pretty dominant, too. Something about me just made me more sexually aggressive than usual. I would breath on, kiss, and nibble on her neck and then I'd push her against the wall and make out with her. I picked her up once, too I rubbed her ****y (I didn't put my hand in her pants, just outside). She fidgeted some so I guess she liked it. :rockon:
Now, I tried to isolate her, and I brought her to another part of the house (not private) and made out some more with her, but I could not get her alone. She eventually said she had to go, but I mean I'm happy that I made a move. I am becoming less reserved with my sexuality. Plus, a lot of the guys there saw me hooking-up with this chick, while they went empty-handed.
Saturday December 9,
Went back to B&N. I swear, the security guards know us now, ahaha. Saw an asian girl (HB 6.5) and approached for a warm up.
Me: Hey, I need a quick female opinion on something.
Her: Sure, what's up?
Me: My couusins bday is next week and she's a big reader, but I'm not a big reader, do you have any suggestions?
I vibed with her quite a bit, but I did not #close. I could have gotten her number, but she wasnt that attractive.
Approached a girl (HB 7.1) looking at Cooking for dummies I ask her for a good cookbook, because I am getting into cooking. I talk to her awhile about vegetarian and vegan stuff. I eject because I am not attracted.
I then see the girl who I #closed a few weeks ago. The girl whose number I lost and then got again after I randomly saw her at a buddhist club!
Me: ahah hey! I can't believe I'm running into you for the THIRD time! You really ARE a stalker.
Her: ahaha yeah I am, you should be scared.
Me: Believe me, I am
Her: By the way, I got your text message, but I'm terrible at texting. I've been meaning to call you back. What are you doing here again?
Me: Getting xmas presents, books are the best presents.
Her: Definately
Me: Anyways, I have a guitar lesson tomorrow, so I'll be close to the city. I'd like to hang out for a bit afterwards.
Her: Alright! But it's not definate yet. I have exams and I need to study, so I cant promise anything.
Me: That's alright, I have finals too so I can't stay for too long, but I'll give you a call at around 12:30 tomorrow when I'm done with my lesson.
Her: Sounds good!
Approach 2 girls (decent looking) in the food court with another wing of mine, Joe. He wants to practice some canned stuff, so we open with that. We both noticed that the girls' eyes dilated when talking to us. They were into us, but we eject after a bit. I don't really know how to transition from a canned opener to other stuff, yet.
We approach another 2 set in the food court, but they are not really into it. They ask Yangda if this is a true story. He stays very calm and says, "Do I look like I'm lying?" while pointing to his eyes. They believe him.
Approach a 2-set with another wing, Bob (we go out in groups, ahaha). He hasnt done much day-gaming. But he wants to try a canned opener. We open a 2 set together. It goes alright, but they ejected after a bit.
Mickey approached a 2 set with the 2-Part-Kiss opener earlier in the day. Later, Mickey and I see a 7 set and we approach them. Turns out, the two girls that Mickey already approached with the SAME opener are in the group. But matter, the 2 girls excitedly tell us to repeat the scenario to their friends who just arrived (they are at the mall to eat dinner with a birthday girl and some friends). I talk to the 2 girls and I smell booze on their breath. They are drunk, and I call them out on it. The two girls then offer ME alcohol. The set went spectacular. I busted the two drunk girls, and i told them that I could blackmail them since I knew they were drunk. They pull my jeans up and check out my boots. They are highschool girls and I should have #closed them by inviting them to come to a BC party sometime, but for some reason me and Mickey didnt! Oh well.
Approach a girl (HB 8.4) at H&K with a Direct Opener. Turns out she is Albanian. My roomate is as well, so I tell her that. We vibe for a long time. In the middle of the conversation I deliver my first "real" SOI yet: "You know, not only are you sexy, but you're really easy to talk to." Her jaw drops open for a second and then says "ahah you're funny." (For some reason, she repeated that a lot throughout our convo. I tell her to give me her # but she says she has a bf to which I reply, "Good. That will give you somethign to do when I am not around." She just says, "you're funny." I eject, but it was a good set.
I want to try my canned stuff again, and Mickey tells me to open 2 girls who are waklking past us. I try to open them,and they stop to listen, but I TOTALLY mess up. I said something like "Hey girls, I need a quick minute, I only have an opinion." It was something ridiculous like that. It was funny as hell, though, and I didnt care.
Went back to B&N. I swear, the security guards know us now, ahaha. Saw an asian girl (HB 6.5) and approached for a warm up.
Me: Hey, I need a quick female opinion on something.
Her: Sure, what's up?
Me: My couusins bday is next week and she's a big reader, but I'm not a big reader, do you have any suggestions?
I vibed with her quite a bit, but I did not #close. I could have gotten her number, but she wasnt that attractive.
Approached a girl (HB 7.1) looking at Cooking for dummies
I ask her for a good cookbook, because I am getting into cooking. I talk to her awhile about vegetarian and vegan stuff. I eject because I am not attracted.I then see the girl who I #closed a few weeks ago. The girl whose number I lost and then got again after I randomly saw her at a buddhist club!
Me: ahah hey! I can't believe I'm running into you for the THIRD time! You really ARE a stalker.
Her: ahaha yeah I am, you should be scared.
Me: Believe me, I am
Her: By the way, I got your text message, but I'm terrible at texting. I've been meaning to call you back. What are you doing here again?
Me: Getting xmas presents, books are the best presents.
Her: Definately
Me: Anyways, I have a guitar lesson tomorrow, so I'll be close to the city. I'd like to hang out for a bit afterwards.
Her: Alright! But it's not definate yet. I have exams and I need to study, so I cant promise anything.
Me: That's alright, I have finals too so I can't stay for too long, but I'll give you a call at around 12:30 tomorrow when I'm done with my lesson.
Her: Sounds good!
Approach 2 girls (decent looking) in the food court with another wing of mine, Joe. He wants to practice some canned stuff, so we open with that. We both noticed that the girls' eyes dilated when talking to us. They were into us, but we eject after a bit. I don't really know how to transition from a canned opener to other stuff, yet.
We approach another 2 set in the food court, but they are not really into it. They ask Yangda if this is a true story. He stays very calm and says, "Do I look like I'm lying?" while pointing to his eyes. They believe him.
Approach a 2-set with another wing, Bob (we go out in groups, ahaha). He hasnt done much day-gaming. But he wants to try a canned opener. We open a 2 set together. It goes alright, but they ejected after a bit.
Mickey approached a 2 set with the 2-Part-Kiss opener earlier in the day. Later, Mickey and I see a 7 set and we approach them. Turns out, the two girls that Mickey already approached with the SAME opener are in the group. But matter, the 2 girls excitedly tell us to repeat the scenario to their friends who just arrived (they are at the mall to eat dinner with a birthday girl and some friends). I talk to the 2 girls and I smell booze on their breath. They are drunk, and I call them out on it. The two girls then offer ME alcohol. The set went spectacular. I busted the two drunk girls, and i told them that I could blackmail them since I knew they were drunk. They pull my jeans up and check out my boots. They are highschool girls and I should have #closed them by inviting them to come to a BC party sometime, but for some reason me and Mickey didnt! Oh well.
Approach a girl (HB 8.4) at H&K with a Direct Opener. Turns out she is Albanian. My roomate is as well, so I tell her that. We vibe for a long time. In the middle of the conversation I deliver my first "real" SOI yet: "You know, not only are you sexy, but you're really easy to talk to." Her jaw drops open for a second and then says "ahah you're funny." (For some reason, she repeated that a lot throughout our convo. I tell her to give me her # but she says she has a bf to which I reply, "Good. That will give you somethign to do when I am not around." She just says, "you're funny." I eject, but it was a good set.
I want to try my canned stuff again, and Mickey tells me to open 2 girls who are waklking past us. I try to open them,and they stop to listen, but I TOTALLY mess up. I said something like "Hey girls, I need a quick minute, I only have an opinion." It was something ridiculous like that. It was funny as hell, though, and I didnt care.
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Sunday December 10
I'm supposed to call the chick to hang out. I feel so tired from the exhausting weekend. Plus, BC is really far awway from the city. Nevertheless, I am yielding to action more nowadays. I call her. Lo and behold, she can meet up, but she says she can't stay long. I invite her to a Bookstore cause I know she loves books. She excitedly says, "thats a great place." I am a strategist, what can I say?
Now, during the date, I used some PUA material, but it was more of me vibing and building on what she said than using techniques. A lot of the PUA stuff seems to work more at either opening or at night clubs. I haven't seen much material on what to do on dates. Nevertheless, I did use a lot of techniques and tactics, and the date went very well. I busted on her for being a book nerd, I busted her on being a murderer (she told me something about blood, and something else). I used a lot of TIME DISTORTION, "I'll take you to prague sometimes and introduce you to the family I met..."
I also used a whole BUNCH of COLD-READS. But I actually believed that my COLD READS were true when I delivered them. And guess what, they were. She is kind of artsy, so I knew she liked sushi. I also guessed she would be independant and adventurous. Even if a girl isn't, most girls would admit that they are. She agreed and seemed impressed. She asked me what else I could tell about her. Looking back, I probably should have said "Heyyy, be patient us guys need to recharge..."
She said some teasing, smart ass comment to me and I playfully called her a jackass. She laughed and said she deserved that.
During the date, I kept on debating in my head whether to tell the waitress to split the check or the pay for her. I decided to tell the waitress to split the check, but my date told me that she was gonna pay for all of it. I told her that I would pay for my tea, but she insisted. She said it would be easier if she payed. She also turned out to be 24! I thought she was my age, but I like older girls, too!
When she discovered that I play flamenco guitar, she said that there is a dance concert this week, and there might be flamenco dancing. She invited me to it, and I said yeah definately. She's going to try and find tickets.
I am going back home for winter break next sunday, and I wont see this girl for another month. So I am going to try and hang out with this girl once more before I leave and I will Kclose her.
I'm supposed to call the chick to hang out. I feel so tired from the exhausting weekend. Plus, BC is really far awway from the city. Nevertheless, I am yielding to action more nowadays. I call her. Lo and behold, she can meet up, but she says she can't stay long. I invite her to a Bookstore cause I know she loves books. She excitedly says, "thats a great place." I am a strategist, what can I say?
Now, during the date, I used some PUA material, but it was more of me vibing and building on what she said than using techniques. A lot of the PUA stuff seems to work more at either opening or at night clubs. I haven't seen much material on what to do on dates. Nevertheless, I did use a lot of techniques and tactics, and the date went very well. I busted on her for being a book nerd, I busted her on being a murderer (she told me something about blood, and something else). I used a lot of TIME DISTORTION, "I'll take you to prague sometimes and introduce you to the family I met..."
I also used a whole BUNCH of COLD-READS. But I actually believed that my COLD READS were true when I delivered them. And guess what, they were. She is kind of artsy, so I knew she liked sushi. I also guessed she would be independant and adventurous. Even if a girl isn't, most girls would admit that they are. She agreed and seemed impressed. She asked me what else I could tell about her. Looking back, I probably should have said "Heyyy, be patient us guys need to recharge..."
She said some teasing, smart ass comment to me and I playfully called her a jackass. She laughed and said she deserved that.
During the date, I kept on debating in my head whether to tell the waitress to split the check or the pay for her. I decided to tell the waitress to split the check, but my date told me that she was gonna pay for all of it. I told her that I would pay for my tea, but she insisted. She said it would be easier if she payed. She also turned out to be 24! I thought she was my age, but I like older girls, too!
When she discovered that I play flamenco guitar, she said that there is a dance concert this week, and there might be flamenco dancing. She invited me to it, and I said yeah definately. She's going to try and find tickets.
I am going back home for winter break next sunday, and I wont see this girl for another month. So I am going to try and hang out with this girl once more before I leave and I will Kclose her.
No not a natural right now at all...still have a ways to go. But i'll get there.Zero Hero said:
Direct: "I saw you standing over here and I wanted to come talk to you..."
Canned: Two Part Kiss, Jealous Girlfriend, (couple others but I dont remember now).
Friday December 15,
Well, I had a day 3 with the chick who I went with to the cafe. Keep in mind that she invited me to a dance show and she already knew that I was 19 while she's 24:
On Wednesday, she tells me that she will call me back about the show on Friday because she doesn't exactly know where it is.
Fast forward to 6:00 on Friday. She still hasn't called. The concert is in an hour and a half and I am nervous. Now I know that DJs don't let any woman whom they have recently met get them down. However, I am not a true DJ yet, and I cannot deny that I was very nervous that she had not called yet. The worst thing I could have done was try to falsely block my feelings. Instead, I decided to accept the fact that I was anxious, however, I knew that if she flaked on me I would not be upset.
Finally, at 6:30 she calls and apologizes, saying that she's so embarrassed but she JUST found out where the place is. I bust her a little bit and tell her to meet me at a certain place so we can go together (trying to LEAD). I get to our meeting place before she does, and out of nowhere, I get this inner force that drives me to open a 2 set. I open them asking them for directions, and bust on them for not knowing their own city. I continue talking to them, when my date comes and joins us (DHV?).
We ask a police officer where the place is and we get exact directions. Good. We have a ways to walk so we have ample time to converse before arriving late to the show.
On the walk to the show, I VIBED excellently. I really did not expect to do so well. I made her laugh a lot and I used a good amount of KINO. I did not prepare my lines beforehand. I feel that when I go on a date it is more about VIBING and using PUA concepts rather than using canned techniques (like i've said before, I rarely see PUA articles about dating, for I love picking up chicks, but I'd rather date multiple chicks and hook up with them rather than just pick up multiple chicks at a bar and screw them the same night. Although I am not totally against the idea).
Anyways, here are some things that I remembered I said/did to her as we were walking to the show (Keep in mind that as I was saying these things, i was not consciously thinking to myself to use these specific techniques):
1) She was talking to me about her friend who has a tattoo of a blender on her arm. I respond with, "ooo, you know I think you would look good with a huge spatula on your back *as I said this I grazed my fingers down her back.* (KINO) She ate this up and laughed a lot.
2)We were talking about Wyoming for some reason and we both had been there when we were younger. I suggested to her that we should go there some day and go back to Yellowstone National Park (TIME DISTORTION).
3) I busted on her a bit more about being late and disorganized for not knowing how to get to the show. I told her "You remind me of my brother, he has no concept of time management." (Neg?)
4)I remember at one point calling her naughty for some reason and she said she was a naughty girl (ELICITING SEXUALITY)
5)I used a lot of arm/elbow kino on her, especially when she did something that deserved reward. Also, she said she liked hula dancing a lot and I told her that I like that (SOI,RELATE and REWARD).
We get to the show and it has already started. The guy whom we both wanted to see the most already did his gig. But we notice in the pamphlet that he will come back after the intermission. Now during the show I did not know what to do. I tried getting subtle kino by placing my arm so that it touched hers. I did not know what to do. After all, I did not want to do anything cliche like the old fake yawn shoulder grab. Should I have tried to hold her hand?
At intermission, I told her that she's lucky that the dancer we missed is coming back on or else I would have left (PUSH). Now that I look about it, I probably should have ended with a pull, like "but since your attractive/cool...I'll stay." We also talked about baby names. She had weird ideas for baby names and I told her that I felt bad for her poor child (IOD?). She ate this up as well. I noticed during intermission that her eyes were pretty dilated (IOI), I could not have kissed her there, but should I have escalated somehow?
I've noticed that girls act a lot more impulsively than guys based on the girls' emotions. It seems that the best time to escalate or kclose or whatever is when the girl is at an emotional high. I know it is cliche, but the saying strike it when its hot seems to apply perfectly. I don't want to make this complicated, but damn that's tough work to always try and build up a girl's emotions. Guys, however, will go out with a girl and can still feel the same attachment/excitement/attraction even hours or days after the date. It's like you always have to work when you're trying to get a girl. You have to keep her attracted as if doing so once will not last. It's like their interest is constantly needs to be replenished. Am I right?
After the show, I told her that I would walk her back to her apartment. I try to use an ISOLATION technique by asking her if she has heard of my favorite band. She says no. So I tell her this: "Well, I only have a few minutes, but I gotta download some of their songs onto your computer." Now, at first she says, ok. But I think she did not realize that this meant me going into her room.
Ten minutes later I'm telling her about the songs I'm gonna download for her and she says, "oh by the way, you can't come into my room. It's uh, uh, too messy." I know this was bs.
I agree wholeheartedly with Juggler's advice that your reaction to what a girl says is what is most important. So I try to play it off like it's all good. I tell her of course, I understand. However, her sudden change of heart took me by surprise. I think she could sense my aura of disappointment, even though I played it off pretty well.
Now, I probably shouldn't have gone for the K-CLOSE after she said this, but I'm leaving tomorrow for X-Mas Break (i'm gone for a month), so I told myself that I was going to go for a K-CLOSE. At the very least I will be a bit more comfortable going for a kiss. We arrive at her front door and I go in to kiss her. She moves her cheek, and I kiss her cheek. She says, "is that a Texan thing or something?" To which I reply, "No, I'm trying to kiss you." She then shakes her head and mumbles, "no."
As we part ways I tell her not to forget to download those songs (trying to act unphased by my rejection). To tell you the truth, I was proud of myself. I actually was not upset at all about getting rejected because I am more than happy to learn from my mistakes. The problems are, however, that 1) I don't really know what my mistake is and 2)I managed to get a girl that I COLD APPROACHED to go on a DAY3 with me and it seemed as though I was soooo close. She is 5 years older than me, too. So it's a bit frustrating cause I felt as though I was so close.
Should getting women be this much work? I mean I did so many things right, here. I made her laugh and I used kino to not get into the LJBF category. I mean it was our second date and I tried to KCLOSE her, how much faster can I be? It seems as though I'm warned so much about the "FRIEND ZONE" that I feel the need to hook up with a woman quickly or she will automatically "FRIEND" me. By the way, I hate saying this, but just so you guys know, I consider myself to be pretty damn good-looking. I've always had girls attracted to me, but 1)I think my facial features make me seem a bit intimidating and 2)I've just now started to not hide my sexuality. This all just seems like a toil.
Nevertheless, I hang my head in pride, not shame. Her loss.
Well, I had a day 3 with the chick who I went with to the cafe. Keep in mind that she invited me to a dance show and she already knew that I was 19 while she's 24:
On Wednesday, she tells me that she will call me back about the show on Friday because she doesn't exactly know where it is.
Fast forward to 6:00 on Friday. She still hasn't called. The concert is in an hour and a half and I am nervous. Now I know that DJs don't let any woman whom they have recently met get them down. However, I am not a true DJ yet, and I cannot deny that I was very nervous that she had not called yet. The worst thing I could have done was try to falsely block my feelings. Instead, I decided to accept the fact that I was anxious, however, I knew that if she flaked on me I would not be upset.
Finally, at 6:30 she calls and apologizes, saying that she's so embarrassed but she JUST found out where the place is. I bust her a little bit and tell her to meet me at a certain place so we can go together (trying to LEAD). I get to our meeting place before she does, and out of nowhere, I get this inner force that drives me to open a 2 set. I open them asking them for directions, and bust on them for not knowing their own city. I continue talking to them, when my date comes and joins us (DHV?).
We ask a police officer where the place is and we get exact directions. Good. We have a ways to walk so we have ample time to converse before arriving late to the show.
On the walk to the show, I VIBED excellently. I really did not expect to do so well. I made her laugh a lot and I used a good amount of KINO. I did not prepare my lines beforehand. I feel that when I go on a date it is more about VIBING and using PUA concepts rather than using canned techniques (like i've said before, I rarely see PUA articles about dating, for I love picking up chicks, but I'd rather date multiple chicks and hook up with them rather than just pick up multiple chicks at a bar and screw them the same night. Although I am not totally against the idea
).Anyways, here are some things that I remembered I said/did to her as we were walking to the show (Keep in mind that as I was saying these things, i was not consciously thinking to myself to use these specific techniques):
1) She was talking to me about her friend who has a tattoo of a blender on her arm. I respond with, "ooo, you know I think you would look good with a huge spatula on your back *as I said this I grazed my fingers down her back.* (KINO) She ate this up and laughed a lot.
2)We were talking about Wyoming for some reason and we both had been there when we were younger. I suggested to her that we should go there some day and go back to Yellowstone National Park (TIME DISTORTION).
3) I busted on her a bit more about being late and disorganized for not knowing how to get to the show. I told her "You remind me of my brother, he has no concept of time management." (Neg?)
4)I remember at one point calling her naughty for some reason and she said she was a naughty girl (ELICITING SEXUALITY)
5)I used a lot of arm/elbow kino on her, especially when she did something that deserved reward. Also, she said she liked hula dancing a lot and I told her that I like that (SOI,RELATE and REWARD).
We get to the show and it has already started. The guy whom we both wanted to see the most already did his gig. But we notice in the pamphlet that he will come back after the intermission. Now during the show I did not know what to do. I tried getting subtle kino by placing my arm so that it touched hers. I did not know what to do. After all, I did not want to do anything cliche like the old fake yawn shoulder grab. Should I have tried to hold her hand?
At intermission, I told her that she's lucky that the dancer we missed is coming back on or else I would have left (PUSH). Now that I look about it, I probably should have ended with a pull, like "but since your attractive/cool...I'll stay." We also talked about baby names. She had weird ideas for baby names and I told her that I felt bad for her poor child (IOD?). She ate this up as well. I noticed during intermission that her eyes were pretty dilated (IOI), I could not have kissed her there, but should I have escalated somehow?
I've noticed that girls act a lot more impulsively than guys based on the girls' emotions. It seems that the best time to escalate or kclose or whatever is when the girl is at an emotional high. I know it is cliche, but the saying strike it when its hot seems to apply perfectly. I don't want to make this complicated, but damn that's tough work to always try and build up a girl's emotions. Guys, however, will go out with a girl and can still feel the same attachment/excitement/attraction even hours or days after the date. It's like you always have to work when you're trying to get a girl. You have to keep her attracted as if doing so once will not last. It's like their interest is constantly needs to be replenished. Am I right?
After the show, I told her that I would walk her back to her apartment. I try to use an ISOLATION technique by asking her if she has heard of my favorite band. She says no. So I tell her this: "Well, I only have a few minutes, but I gotta download some of their songs onto your computer." Now, at first she says, ok. But I think she did not realize that this meant me going into her room.
Ten minutes later I'm telling her about the songs I'm gonna download for her and she says, "oh by the way, you can't come into my room. It's uh, uh, too messy." I know this was bs.
I agree wholeheartedly with Juggler's advice that your reaction to what a girl says is what is most important. So I try to play it off like it's all good. I tell her of course, I understand. However, her sudden change of heart took me by surprise. I think she could sense my aura of disappointment, even though I played it off pretty well.
Now, I probably shouldn't have gone for the K-CLOSE after she said this, but I'm leaving tomorrow for X-Mas Break (i'm gone for a month), so I told myself that I was going to go for a K-CLOSE. At the very least I will be a bit more comfortable going for a kiss. We arrive at her front door and I go in to kiss her. She moves her cheek, and I kiss her cheek. She says, "is that a Texan thing or something?" To which I reply, "No, I'm trying to kiss you." She then shakes her head and mumbles, "no."
As we part ways I tell her not to forget to download those songs (trying to act unphased by my rejection). To tell you the truth, I was proud of myself. I actually was not upset at all about getting rejected because I am more than happy to learn from my mistakes. The problems are, however, that 1) I don't really know what my mistake is and 2)I managed to get a girl that I COLD APPROACHED to go on a DAY3 with me and it seemed as though I was soooo close. She is 5 years older than me, too. So it's a bit frustrating cause I felt as though I was so close.
Should getting women be this much work? I mean I did so many things right, here. I made her laugh and I used kino to not get into the LJBF category. I mean it was our second date and I tried to KCLOSE her, how much faster can I be? It seems as though I'm warned so much about the "FRIEND ZONE" that I feel the need to hook up with a woman quickly or she will automatically "FRIEND" me. By the way, I hate saying this, but just so you guys know, I consider myself to be pretty damn good-looking. I've always had girls attracted to me, but 1)I think my facial features make me seem a bit intimidating and 2)I've just now started to not hide my sexuality. This all just seems like a toil.
Nevertheless, I hang my head in pride, not shame. Her loss.
kdnash82
Master Don Juan
Dude... your posts are awesome! I never even thought about doing some of the things you're doing. Thanks for paving the road.
thefonz
Master Don Juan
Hey brak, great approaches man. You're really getting good at this stuff, I'm completely impressed. Your commitment to your goal is something I've rarely seen in many people so don't feel discouraged.
I think that you learn something from each rejection whether you know it or not. It's hard when you get rejected cus your mind wants to play it over and look at it from a perspective of how it could have gone well. But you know what, you'll eventually come across a way you could have done things better.....and when you can think up that hold on to those thoughts of how you would have improved. You've implanted that image into your mind and you know how to react next time it happens. To put it another way, you're expanding your INSINCTS rather than your intellectual knowledge on how to deal with women. That's why alot of this stuff is so difficult and frustrasting to teach to other guys, because most of it is not about strategic planning or trying to control another person. By getting in the situations where you have to deal with women, you subconsiously learn how to react in dating situations, situations that are difficult to put into words because they are not relateable to most other people because your problem areas are very specific (and sometimes just situations relived from our past). Don't be afraid to think about the rejection, but make sure to picture yourself doing better.
Anyways, I'll be sure to hit you up for lunch sometime in the future. Lemme try to catch up with you in numbers though.
I think that you learn something from each rejection whether you know it or not. It's hard when you get rejected cus your mind wants to play it over and look at it from a perspective of how it could have gone well. But you know what, you'll eventually come across a way you could have done things better.....and when you can think up that hold on to those thoughts of how you would have improved. You've implanted that image into your mind and you know how to react next time it happens. To put it another way, you're expanding your INSINCTS rather than your intellectual knowledge on how to deal with women. That's why alot of this stuff is so difficult and frustrasting to teach to other guys, because most of it is not about strategic planning or trying to control another person. By getting in the situations where you have to deal with women, you subconsiously learn how to react in dating situations, situations that are difficult to put into words because they are not relateable to most other people because your problem areas are very specific (and sometimes just situations relived from our past). Don't be afraid to think about the rejection, but make sure to picture yourself doing better.
Anyways, I'll be sure to hit you up for lunch sometime in the future. Lemme try to catch up with you in numbers though.
I'm back in Dallas for X-mas break. I never really realized that there is a CLEAR difference between Northeastern women and southern women. I guess I did not realize how hot Dallas women were (probably because I had lived in Dallas my whole life and, therefore, had no other city to compare it to), but after coming back from Boston, I notice a big difference. There are definately a lot of hot women in Boston since it is a big city, but in Dallas, it's like wherever you turn you see a hot woman.
I'll be doing approaches soon, but I just wanted to point this out. I'm gonna live in the South again sometime:yes:
I'll be doing approaches soon, but I just wanted to point this out. I'm gonna live in the South again sometime:yes:
Heyjose25points
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Brak stop approaching so much, lol. I can't catch up! Keep it goin dude, i hope to sarge with u again during the spring. Was the 24 yr. old the same chick u got a number from when we sarged?
Wow, I really thought i was gonna lose my virginity this past weekend to a girl 4 inches taller than me. I really did. But even though I am about to recount the story that eventually led to me getting rejected, I am not in the least bit upset. I am a bit disappointed, but not upset. As a matter of fact, I am starting to not let rejection upset me that much anymore. Anyways, let's get on with what happened. I will try to recount everything that happend (from facebook messages to phone texts). But first, let me explain with the events that led up to this night:
I went to highschool with HBTall. (I would rate her an HB8.8. Although she is about 4 inches taller than me and i prefer shorter girls, this girl is damn hot. She plays soccer in college and has a great ass that is small but sticks out (how i like my asses ), and she also has not tiny, but smaller, well shaped boobies (how i like my boobies ). She also is one of those girls that is very sexual by nature and isn't afraid to initiate flirting with guys).
I knew this girl was attracted to me in highschool. I remember one time in Junior year when I was at a swimming party, and HBTall stared at my body then straight up asked me "when am i going to get to kiss you?" Of course, being the AFC that I was then, I did not say anything, nor act on this. During senior year, however, I began to flirt back with her. We even planned for her to come over and have a "sleepover," but I was still too timid to set that up (she thought up of the idea).
Fast forward to college, I hadn't heard from her in awhile until a few weeks before xmas break. I get a random facebook message from her saying, "We never did get to have that sleepover at your house." I respond by telling her that we will have it when we get back home for xmas break.
Fast forward again to about a week ago. I am home from xmas break, and I have waited about a week before getting in touch with her. I don't have her number so we message each other a few times on facebook:
Me: I've been here for awhile and I still haven't seen you. Come out you dork. And when are we doing our slumber party?
HBTall: hey love, yeah i've been sitting at home for awhile, but I'm going to sarah's party on friday, you should come. If you cant lets get dinner or lunch next week.
Me: hey LOVE? You're not asking to get back together are you? You're turning me off. I can't go to sarah's because I promised my parents I'd go to one of their parties so they can brag about me ahaha. We'll get dinner next week and hang out afterwards if something's going on. Give me your number and I'll tell you later when and where we'll eat (LEADING).
Her: ooo I like it when you tell me what to do lol. 214 868 3257, make it happen. Llooove you!!!
Ok, I thought I had this in the bag now. I felt that all I needed to do was isolate her and then make a move and I would have it. I knew that she always wanted to hook up with me, because even though I was shorter than her, I had been acting dominant to her and she also thought i was hot.
Over the next few days, we send each other a series of text messages. I send her a text message one day asking her if she wants to come over on Thursday, December 28th. She tells me that she might not have her car, because her sister now uses her car, but she get back to me on thursday. On thursday, she texts me that she wont have the car that night. I respond with, "you are impossible" She apologizes, but tells me to talk to her tomorrow.
On friday the 29th, she agrees to come over that night. However, we had huge showers and a tornado warning that night and she lives far away. I text her to remind her about our sleepover, but she says she doesn't want to drive because the roads are too dangerous. I first send her a C+F text message, saying, "I see you like playing it safe, I thought you were more adventurous."
I have been noticing that I have a tendency of overcompensating for my lack of flirting skills by using a lot of C+F. I tend to take the act-disinterested-and-be-an-******* rule way too far. So I send her another text saying, "actually, i just heard on the radio that the roads are very dangerous. It's not worth you getting hurt. We will postpone our sleepover."
She replies, saying, "See, I told you the roads were bad! But i promise we will have our sleepover tomorrow."
So on Saturday, December 30, HBTall comes over to my house at 9:30 P.M. She shows up hot as hell, dressed well and all made-up.
Me: awww, you didn't have to dress up just for me.
Her: ahaha I was actually just out at dinner with my parents
Me: Sure you were...
I show her around my house (my room, especially ). Eventually, I mention watching the new pirates of the carribean movie because I hadn't seen it and I got it for xmas:
Me: Have you seen it yet?
Her: Yeah
Me: well, too bad, you can see it again
Her: ahaha ok.
I turn off the lights and we start watching the movie. Wee sit next to each other on the couch in a way that we have Immediate KINO. Our legs are slightly touching each other. We aren't really watching the movie, instead, we catch up on each other's college life. At one point, she starts talking about soccer getting her in shape:
Me: Really? Ok then, flex your arms *squeezed her arm*
Her: well My arms are really weak, my legs are strong
Me: alright then flex your legs *squeezed her legs*
Her: haaha yea see, they're strong/
Now here is where I get a bit thrown off. She starts talking about college social life and she brings up the fact that she has a boyfriend. She didn't outright say it to me, she was just talking about something and mentioned her boyfriend in passing. I pretended like I never heard her say that she had a boyfriend. Instead, I keep talking to her about college. But in my head, I was so confused and a little bit ticked. Why would she insist on having a sleepover at my house and actually decide to come over by herself, and start watching a movie with me with the lights off? Nevertheless, I knew that no matter what I would try for a KISS CLOSE. I don't want to over analyze things, and I had already decided beforehand that I was going to try and get laid tonight. I would have no regrets if I tried, at least.
But the confusion does not stop here. Even after mentioning that she had a boyfriend (I don't even think she planned to say this. The topic of conversation just pertained to the fact that she had a bf in some way), our KINO amps up. Let me mention two things that happened related to KINO before I attempt the KCLOSE:
1)As we were watching the movie and talking, she moves her legs so that her feet are very close to mine. I then feel her toes rubbing my feet. I am starting to get hard now. I am 95% sure that this was no coincedence, for after she starting rubbing my feet with her toes, I lightly graze my fingers up and down her left arm. She continued rubbing my feet. It felt really good and I was pretty sure I was going to hook up with her.
2) So as this is happening, I look at my watch and decide that in 3 minutes, I would grab my balls and attempt the KCLOSE. I ask her what she did that day (I am BAITING her to eventually ask me what I did. You will see why). She mentioned normal stuff like wake up late, read, watch T.V. She then asked me what I did that day, and I told her I got a massage (I really did).
Me: Yeah, I looovee getting massages, but I wish they would do something different (BAIT).
Her: What's that?
Me: Well, I wish they didn't go straight into pressing your muscles. When I give massages, I like to start off by grazing my fingers down the person's back to warm them up. Here, turn around.
Her: Ok
(I graze my hands over her back very softly. If someone does this to you, it feels really good. She agrees with me).
She turns around, and I make EC and then go in for the kiss:
Her: What are you doing?
Me: Trying to kiss you....
Her: I have a boyfriend...
Me: ahh, cool....when are you two getting married ( i knew there was really no point in using this line now, but it just spurted out of my mouth:crackup: ).
Her: ahaha in 3 weeks...
Me: aweessomme, where?
Her: Vegas
Me: Very classy
Surprisingly, HBTall did not leave right after I tried to kiss her. She seemed surprisingly calm and not awkward after I tried to kiss her. I was not feeling awkward at all either. Nor was I nervous anymore. After I take action, I've realized that the nervousness goes away. She stayed at my house for another 30 minutes or so. We continued to talk, but less than before. She gets a call and her parents are worried because her sister is not picking up the phone. To my satisfaction, she tells me she has to leave.
Well, yet again I am left confused as to what went wrong after another rejected KCLOSE. I asked some of my wingmen and my best friend (who does not know about the game) what he thought. He told me that he thinks that girls get pleasure from rejecting guys and telling guys that they have boyfriends and that HBTall, even though she wanted to kiss me, was probably doing just that. I also thought that maybe she just wanted to assure herself that she could "have" me if she wanted.
Anyways, it was a crazy night. Even though I didn't have sex, I am still happy. If I had not made a move I would have been terribly upset. You know, as long as I take action and/or make a move, I'm pretty happy no matter what happens. Hooking up is just icing on the cake.
Do you all have comments/questions/suggestions?
I went to highschool with HBTall. (I would rate her an HB8.8. Although she is about 4 inches taller than me and i prefer shorter girls, this girl is damn hot. She plays soccer in college and has a great ass that is small but sticks out (how i like my asses
), and she also has not tiny, but smaller, well shaped boobies (how i like my boobies ). She also is one of those girls that is very sexual by nature and isn't afraid to initiate flirting with guys).I knew this girl was attracted to me in highschool. I remember one time in Junior year when I was at a swimming party, and HBTall stared at my body then straight up asked me "when am i going to get to kiss you?" Of course, being the AFC that I was then, I did not say anything, nor act on this. During senior year, however, I began to flirt back with her. We even planned for her to come over and have a "sleepover," but I was still too timid to set that up (she thought up of the idea).
Fast forward to college, I hadn't heard from her in awhile until a few weeks before xmas break. I get a random facebook message from her saying, "We never did get to have that sleepover at your house." I respond by telling her that we will have it when we get back home for xmas break.
Fast forward again to about a week ago. I am home from xmas break, and I have waited about a week before getting in touch with her. I don't have her number so we message each other a few times on facebook:
Me: I've been here for awhile and I still haven't seen you. Come out you dork. And when are we doing our slumber party?
HBTall: hey love, yeah i've been sitting at home for awhile, but I'm going to sarah's party on friday, you should come. If you cant lets get dinner or lunch next week.
Me: hey LOVE? You're not asking to get back together are you? You're turning me off. I can't go to sarah's because I promised my parents I'd go to one of their parties so they can brag about me ahaha. We'll get dinner next week and hang out afterwards if something's going on. Give me your number and I'll tell you later when and where we'll eat (LEADING).
Her: ooo I like it when you tell me what to do lol. 214 868 3257, make it happen. Llooove you!!!
Ok, I thought I had this in the bag now. I felt that all I needed to do was isolate her and then make a move and I would have it. I knew that she always wanted to hook up with me, because even though I was shorter than her, I had been acting dominant to her and she also thought i was hot.
Over the next few days, we send each other a series of text messages. I send her a text message one day asking her if she wants to come over on Thursday, December 28th. She tells me that she might not have her car, because her sister now uses her car, but she get back to me on thursday. On thursday, she texts me that she wont have the car that night. I respond with, "you are impossible
" She apologizes, but tells me to talk to her tomorrow. On friday the 29th, she agrees to come over that night. However, we had huge showers and a tornado warning that night and she lives far away. I text her to remind her about our sleepover, but she says she doesn't want to drive because the roads are too dangerous. I first send her a C+F text message, saying, "I see you like playing it safe, I thought you were more adventurous."
I have been noticing that I have a tendency of overcompensating for my lack of flirting skills by using a lot of C+F. I tend to take the act-disinterested-and-be-an-******* rule way too far. So I send her another text saying, "actually, i just heard on the radio that the roads are very dangerous. It's not worth you getting hurt. We will postpone our sleepover."
She replies, saying, "See, I told you the roads were bad! But i promise we will have our sleepover tomorrow."
So on Saturday, December 30, HBTall comes over to my house at 9:30 P.M. She shows up hot as hell, dressed well and all made-up.
Me: awww, you didn't have to dress up just for me.
Her: ahaha I was actually just out at dinner with my parents
Me: Sure you were...
I show her around my house (my room, especially
). Eventually, I mention watching the new pirates of the carribean movie because I hadn't seen it and I got it for xmas:Me: Have you seen it yet?
Her: Yeah
Me: well, too bad, you can see it again
Her: ahaha ok.
I turn off the lights and we start watching the movie. Wee sit next to each other on the couch in a way that we have Immediate KINO. Our legs are slightly touching each other. We aren't really watching the movie, instead, we catch up on each other's college life. At one point, she starts talking about soccer getting her in shape:
Me: Really? Ok then, flex your arms *squeezed her arm*
Her: well My arms are really weak, my legs are strong
Me: alright then flex your legs *squeezed her legs*
Her: haaha yea see, they're strong/
Now here is where I get a bit thrown off. She starts talking about college social life and she brings up the fact that she has a boyfriend. She didn't outright say it to me, she was just talking about something and mentioned her boyfriend in passing. I pretended like I never heard her say that she had a boyfriend. Instead, I keep talking to her about college. But in my head, I was so confused and a little bit ticked. Why would she insist on having a sleepover at my house and actually decide to come over by herself, and start watching a movie with me with the lights off? Nevertheless, I knew that no matter what I would try for a KISS CLOSE. I don't want to over analyze things, and I had already decided beforehand that I was going to try and get laid tonight. I would have no regrets if I tried, at least.
But the confusion does not stop here. Even after mentioning that she had a boyfriend (I don't even think she planned to say this. The topic of conversation just pertained to the fact that she had a bf in some way), our KINO amps up. Let me mention two things that happened related to KINO before I attempt the KCLOSE:
1)As we were watching the movie and talking, she moves her legs so that her feet are very close to mine. I then feel her toes rubbing my feet. I am starting to get hard now. I am 95% sure that this was no coincedence, for after she starting rubbing my feet with her toes, I lightly graze my fingers up and down her left arm. She continued rubbing my feet. It felt really good and I was pretty sure I was going to hook up with her.
2) So as this is happening, I look at my watch and decide that in 3 minutes, I would grab my balls and attempt the KCLOSE. I ask her what she did that day (I am BAITING her to eventually ask me what I did. You will see why). She mentioned normal stuff like wake up late, read, watch T.V. She then asked me what I did that day, and I told her I got a massage (I really did).
Me: Yeah, I looovee getting massages, but I wish they would do something different (BAIT).
Her: What's that?
Me: Well, I wish they didn't go straight into pressing your muscles. When I give massages, I like to start off by grazing my fingers down the person's back to warm them up. Here, turn around.
Her: Ok
(I graze my hands over her back very softly. If someone does this to you, it feels really good
. She agrees with me). She turns around, and I make EC and then go in for the kiss:
Her: What are you doing?
Me: Trying to kiss you....
Her: I have a boyfriend...
Me: ahh, cool....when are you two getting married ( i knew there was really no point in using this line now, but it just spurted out of my mouth:crackup: ).
Her: ahaha in 3 weeks...
Me: aweessomme, where?
Her: Vegas
Me: Very classy
Surprisingly, HBTall did not leave right after I tried to kiss her. She seemed surprisingly calm and not awkward after I tried to kiss her. I was not feeling awkward at all either. Nor was I nervous anymore. After I take action, I've realized that the nervousness goes away. She stayed at my house for another 30 minutes or so. We continued to talk, but less than before. She gets a call and her parents are worried because her sister is not picking up the phone. To my satisfaction, she tells me she has to leave.
Well, yet again I am left confused as to what went wrong after another rejected KCLOSE. I asked some of my wingmen and my best friend (who does not know about the game) what he thought. He told me that he thinks that girls get pleasure from rejecting guys and telling guys that they have boyfriends and that HBTall, even though she wanted to kiss me, was probably doing just that. I also thought that maybe she just wanted to assure herself that she could "have" me if she wanted.
Anyways, it was a crazy night. Even though I didn't have sex, I am still happy. If I had not made a move I would have been terribly upset. You know, as long as I take action and/or make a move, I'm pretty happy no matter what happens. Hooking up is just icing on the cake.
Do you all have comments/questions/suggestions?
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Heyjose25points
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Long time no speak bud! Maybe she really did want to kiss you but that sudden guilt with her boyfriend finally peaked? Its like if u had a girlfriend...but there is a super past crush u had who was a 10...u don't want to lose the opportunity but that last second the guilt is too much and u back out. From reading your post, u looked like u did nothing wrong. Thats just the game. U did awesome man! I'd be a little frustrated too wondering...but hey...as long as we keep going even while a little frustrated, thats all that matters. Good Post dude!
