Brak86's Journal

[Brak86]

Wow. Everything about your actions and your words...it's too amazing. Where do you get your material? Where do you get the motivation? How do you do the things you do?

hahaha, do you really think so? You should see some of the experienced guys that I've seen sarge. I used to read a lot of material but now not so much, because I just wanted to get out into the field. BUt I guess I like juggler the most, because he is natural.

I dont know where I get my motivation. I guess the only answer is from within me. I like doing this, and I like taking risks and doing exciting things.

 

[Brak86]

Glad to hear you're getting a lot better at PU. I can't believe how much better I've gotten in the past couple of months as well. We should sarge together more often. I have Saturdays off from work we should set up a regular time and place to go, maybe 12 at The Pru? Oh and I went out with Pinnacle today and solved a ton of my sticking points. He's a really cool guy and you should definatly sarge with him if the oppertunity ever presents itself. Give me a buzz when you're back in town from break.

Dude, we're defiantely sarging every saturday as soon as I get back. Thats awesome you went out with pinnacle....he's like really advanced. That's cool he was willing to help you out. Keep at it, bro. I hope you had a good thanksgiving and I'll see you next sat.

 

[Brak86]

Thursday November 30,

I went out with my boys Gil and Alex to the pru. They wanted to approach but I wasnt going to because I just got a chemical peel for my skin and my face was ****ed up for that day . Anyways, Gil and Alex had trouble approaching, they had AA. Although they have been approaching pretty much as much as me, they seem to be having trouble getting over their AA. They want to approach together instead of gaming a girl on their own. I totally understand this, when they are ready they will approach on their own. I was just their to hang out with them and help them if they needed anything. Well, they were being a bit hesitant so I decided to "show" them that this isn't gonna kill them. I wanted to do something a bit outrageous.

I walked up to a girl eating alone in the food court (keep in mind i am NOT trying to sarge this girl, I just want to get my friends over AA):

Me:I know this is totally random, but I've got to tell you something
Her: Whats that?
Me: I've just come out of the closet and I'm scared, I HAD to tell the first person I saw.
Her: wow ahaha well congratulations!
Me: Thanks, I mean I just got into college so it's the best time to do it, but its so hard.
Her: I understand, I have two gay friends. One girl, one guy. ( I was about to say, you should introduce me to this guy, but then I realized that I'M NOT ACTUALLY GAY haahah).
Me: Has it been hard for them?
Her: I haven't really talked to them about this yet.
Me: ahhh. Well anyways, it was good talking to you. Thanks a lot.
Her: No problem. Good luck.

I want to try socially outrageous stuff. Im very interested in how each person responds to different comments/actions/etc. To me, an FR is not only a way to try to improve and get laid, but also it is an experiment.

Anyways, I think that helped them. Alex and Gil approached this really hot girl at B&N. They hesitated for like 10 minutes! But i was very impressed that they still approached (most people simply cannot approach after waiting that long).

I thought I'd make a realization I made after talking to Alex more. Before he approaches a girl, he has to be FULLY prepared (which I admire in him). But I want him to realize that you can never be FULLY prepared before an approach, because it often goes in directions that you never expect. I love this about sarging. He has to know what opinion opener he needs to use, what he is going to say next, what neg he's gonna use, etc. and he goes over all this in his head before he approaches. It's like pre-approach, he has to map out his plan as if gaming were a series of formulas that you use. I know he is relatively new to this (and I am not trying to single him out, I'm writing this down to help myself, too, since I do this often).

I am a very anaylitical person as well, but I've come to realize that you have to VIBE with the girl and go into a conversation not fully knowing what you';re gonna say, because the conversation will present so many unexpected turns. And if you are always in your head, trying to figure out which comment will work best for which specific situation, you will miss out on what the girl has to say. He's a big fan of Mystery method, so I can see why he does this. I respect mystery method and I use some of his stuff, but I want people to know that even Mystery isn't completely scientific and formulaic when it comes to game.

I think it helps to, when you're starting, pick ONE skill you want to improve on (e.g. a neg, c+f, SOI, eliciting values,roleplaying, etc.) and use it. Otherwise, the game turns into hard work rather than a fun conversation. You have to go in a conversation knowing that you're gonna have FUN no matter what, and that the conversation will help you no matter what happens. It helps if you are genuinely interested in a conversation (whether it is because the conversation will help you for later FRs, you want to have a playful conversation, you find the unique girl, etc.). Gaming is hard at first because you want to think and not think at the same time. But all in all, it should be fun and refreshing, instead of torturous.

 

[Heyjose25points]

Good Insight bro. Yea, having the game be fun is the only way we're going to succeed. I thought that it was something i needed originally and if I failed any aspect of it, i failed in general...which is bull sh1t. Sure, it should be fun but u gotta put the work into it. Hope to hear more from u dude, glad u posted in this topic again.

 

[Brak86]

Saturday December 2nd:

Wow, this was one of my better days. My BL, tonality, and my EC are starting to get very congruent with my direct game. My favorite opener is "i saw you standing/sitting/eating over here and I wanted to meet you." After her response (which is usually one of shock/suspicion) I immediately throw in "But don't get too ****y, now" or "Dont get a big head, though." This has worked VERY well. I usually disarm them and make them laugh by saying this. You need to make a woman comfortable and wipe out awkwardness ESPECIALLY in a Direct, cold approach.

I went to different stores (H&K, Borders, B&N, etc). with Mickey, Matt and Pinnacle. Mickey and Pinnacle are more mystery method type guys who are getting to be pretty good at opening sets with multiple women. I am NOT good at this and I need to work on it. I've found out that I think I need canned stuff for sets with multiple girls. You cant really use direct on them. I will work on this later.

Today, I did about 7 approaches and I dont really remember what was said for the life of me. I guess it is because conversations are lasting longer and I am beginning to not "think" anymore and instead react. And also, I approached HOT women today.( I am not inflating their rating numbers, I'm sure other people would rate them higher than i did). Pinnacle was pretty impressed with my direct game; however, I was pretty impressed with his ability to "perform" and call the attention of multiple women.

I will write as much dialogue as I remember and other interesting tidbits

At Borders, I notice a really hot blonde girl (HB 8.7):
Me: Excuse me, I saw you standing here and I just wanted to come meet you"
Her: *blushing and smiling* Ohh ahaha alright
Me: Don't get too ****y on me, now"
Her: ahhah I'm not
Me: So do you go to school around here?
Her: Yeah, I go to suffolk
Me: ahhhh, do you know ____? Cause he's told me a lot about you suffolk girls.
Her: *smiling* what did he tell you?
Me: That y'all are high maintenance, party girls
Her: ahahah well actually I don't like a lot of the suffolk girls, they are sluts. But Do you go to school around here?
Me: Yeah, I'm a freshman at BC
Her: Im actually a freshman too and one of my best friends goes to BC! Do you know _____
Me: I know a few girls named ___ so maybe.. (I later learned that her best friend is a hot chick in my philosophy class. Should I tell this chick that I met her best friend at Borders? I'm not really close with her). Actually, you know I never got your name.
Her: I'm ____, what's your name (IOI)
Me: Brak86
Her: Whats your major?
Me: Undecided, what about you?
Her: Psychology...
(We fluff talked a bit more then I #closed).
Me: Well, I gotta go but give me your number so we can hang out sometime.
Her: Yeah ok! *gives me her #* Also, let me get your number so we can hang out when I'm at BC.
Me: Sounds good.

I was proud of myself. I just number closed this really hot chick and she seems interested. But it's only the beginning. I now am approaching another temporary obstacle: phone game. But I am willing to learn.

I notice a girl checking out books at B&N at the pru. Shes a brunette and she's so hot. As much as I want to say the blonde girl is hotter, i think this girl has her beat. (HB 8.8)

Me: Hi, I saw you standing here and I wanted to meet you.
Her: *blushing* erghh ok..
Me: Don't get a big head about it, though
Her: ahaha ok
(I dont remember all that we said, but we fluffed about her going to BU, but not really caring about the BC/BU rivalry. I found out that shes a junior and when she asked me, i told her the truth that I am a freshman (DLV?). Talked about her going to italy this spring).

After a bit, the girl said, "well it was good meeting you." I've come across this a couple times. Arggh. I know I am doing a good job. Pinnacle himself noticed that she was giving me a lot of IOIs. Do I just ignore her trying to eject and plow through and keep going? OR ask for the number?

2 minutes later, my wings and I noticed another hot chick. They all said she was the hottest yet, but i'm gonna say (HB 8.6). I approached this girl and later Pinnacle told me that the HB 8.8 i approached noticed me approaching this new girl!

I approached with Direct game again and she blushed. She was older, but I managed to disarm her a bit and made fun of her being an alcoholic (she was holding a champagne booklet). Yet again, the girl initiated the end of the convo by saying "well, it was nice meeting you." This time, however, I kinda ignored it. I then COLD-RED/TINY NEGGED her when I said that she didn't seem like a party girl, though. She told me that I'd be surprised. I ejected but should have #closed.

This was just for fun. Noticed a two set (one girl carrying a bag from the clothes store, Rugby).

Me: Wow, I admire you so much.
Her: *smiling* uhh why?
Me: You're a girl and you play rugby? Thats so intense
Her: ahaha oh thank you..
(talked for 30 more seconds then left).

At H&K, I approached a girl (HB 8.0) with a canned opener. I want to develop my congruence with canned stuff, too.

Me: Excuse me, I need a quick female opinion on something.
Her: What's that
Me: My cousin's birthday is next week and I'm trying to get her a shirt, but I dnt know what size she is. Is it better to get her something too big or too small?
Her: ahaha well, I'd say get her something smaller.
Me: Yeah, but I feel like if I get her something smaller, if she doesnt fit in it well she would think that I thought of her as fat.
Her: well, how big is she? Like which girl does she look like in this store?
Me: ahaha none really, but i guess the closest is that girl (pointing to some random chick). Shes like 5'3 105 poinds...
Her: I'd definately get her a medium.
Me: Alright cool, thanks. I ejected. I feel weird asking for an opinion and then transitioning to her. I need to get better at this.

Pinnacle and Mickey opened a 6 set of girls at B&N and eventually they brought me in the set because 2 of the girls go to BC. I met them and they said "Oh, yeah we recognized you. We've seen you on campus." To which I replied "Oh wow, I hope y'all aren't stalking me." I did a little busting but Pinnacle had to manage the set because I do not know how to keep a big set occupied and excited. I noticed he uses a lot of cold-reads and fun little games.

Tried to open a group of women (they looked younger from afar) with Matt, and we tried using hte 2-part kiss canned opener. But it didnt work that well. The women were waiting for one of their moms, so they were not interested.

AT borders, I approached this woman who turned out to be a faculty member at my school! She's like an economics grad student or something, part time faculty. She refused when I asked for her number, but she told me to visit her in her office "to chat." I didnt ask for her office #

All in all, I had a really fun time. It really helps to have fun. I approached some really hot girls, and got a #.

 

[Brak86]

Sunday December 3rd.

The most bizarre thing happened to me today. I don't believe this was coincidental, either.

Ok, for those of you all who didnt read one of my previous posts, I started incorporatinbg the Law of Attraction into my liufe and I am still doing it. Also, some of you may remember the girl who gave me her number but whose number I LOST because i forgot to store it into my phone.

Well, today I got invited by this giuy who i met through my guitar teacher to a Buddhist meeting in Boston. I didnt relly feel like going because I wanted to sleep more, but he has been calling me often, and I wanted to be polite. So I went. He picked me up in his car, we drove to the city. We parked and starting walking towards the building. But he told me that we needed to pick up another member first.

Lo and behold, it was the same chick that I met at B&N a few weeks ago whose number I lost. I got her number again and remembered to store it this time! But this whole thing is just so odd/fascinating to me. Ever since I've been practicing the Law of Attraction, I dont know if I've actually somewhat created more opportunities or I have just become better and more aware at recognizing them, but it's almost like I've gotten luckier!

 

[Microphone Fiend]

lol....good sh!t man...That is prettttty strange.

Maybe it's fate..something in the stars, your moon and her star was aligned and then the horoscope in todays paper said you will re-encounter missed opportunities.

See how crappy that sounds, lol. Just take it one step @ a time man, it is weird that you bumped into her but dont over do it. I dont know if you will but just in case you were thinkin it was fate...

 

[Brak86]

lol....good sh!t man...That is prettttty strange.

Maybe it's fate..something in the stars, your moon and her star was aligned and then the horoscope in todays paper said you will re-encounter missed opportunities.

See how crappy that sounds, lol. Just take it one step @ a time man, it is weird that you bumped into her but dont over do it. I dont know if you will but just in case you were thinkin it was fate...

ahaha no like i said before.. I don't really think it's fate. I'm sure that if this was me a few months ago I'd believe it was fate and I'd get one-i-tis. I think I;m pretty set though and I'm not obsessing at all.

 

[green69]

Hey Brak one thing that you haven't really mentioned is the follow-ups on these numbers? Are you calling these girls and setting up meetings and dates? If yes, it must be nice to have so many options on the go.

 

[Brak86]

Hey Brak one thing that you haven't really mentioned is the follow-ups on these numbers? Are you calling these girls and setting up meetings and dates? If yes, it must be nice to have so many options on the go.

ahaha thanks for bringing that up. I have not yet followed up. I just started getting over the #-close anxiety, but thats no excuse. Tomorrow I'm calling 2 girls and I'm gonna set up dates with them.

 

[Mickey J]

I gotta say I'm really impressed with your direct game. I'm starting to think that it's the way to for day game. I'm realizing that day game is a lot different from night game. Next time we go out I'm gonna try to listen to full conversations you have with girls when you go direct.

Oh man! That's awesome that ran into that girl again. I've also ran into girls I've gamed in the past. The first was HB Train who I opened on the T the night of the Zeta Psi party we went to. I was walking in the Pru and she asked me if I remembered her, we talked for a couple of minutes then Shadowfox made some bad jokes that weirded her out so she left.The other was the Make up artist/Dominatrix chick that I k closed at that party. She was doing a demo for a make up company so she couldn't really talk tho.

Oh and the store is H&M

 

[Heyjose25points]

H & M...has great men's clothes...if u can find the ones with men's clothes.
;-)
Brak, im mad impressed with how awesome ur direct game is doing.
Question, for 2+ sets, wat do u think is a good indirect opener to use...say in a cafeteria...where u are just passing by but aren't eating and see an on the spot set?

 

[Brak86]

H & M...has great men's clothes...if u can find the ones with men's clothes.
;-)
Brak, im mad impressed with how awesome ur direct game is doing.
Question, for 2+ sets, wat do u think is a good indirect opener to use...say in a cafeteria...where u are just passing by but aren't eating and see an on the spot set?

ahaha thanks jose, but you might want to ask mickeyj about indirect openers...hes pretty damn good at the indirect stuff.

Mickey, yeah direct game is good, but like i said before, you cant use it if you want to open a set with more than 1 girl in it. That's why i want to improve my indirect, canned stuff. As you now, there's no one single way, and I want to work on other stuff as well and become a more complete, rounded DJ I want to work on situational as well, but thats harder for me to do, because it is easier to go up to a woman and state my intent right then and there.

 

[Rockstar4Life]

Haha

Great work man, I love watching your direct stuff in action...too much fun to sarge with haha.

So since you haven't addressed it, I thought I'd brag for you.

So Brak here had a jealously plotline going for two chicks at the B&N. I was watching from the magazines.... His first cold approach (HBa) went great as he mentioned and she ejected for what ever reason, but she was bright red and her pupils were dilated every time he spoke. :rockon:

So a little while later he opens another chick (HBb) not far away...and she takes the bait...and who notices and starts overtly staring but HBa who frowns and pulls out her cell phone. I still remember Pinnacle saying she was calling her booty call for validation. Haha.

Great work man, lets go out again this weekend.

-Rockstar4Life:rockon:

 

[Brak86]

Great work man, I love watching your direct stuff in action...too much fun to sarge with haha.

So since you haven't addressed it, I thought I'd brag for you.

So Brak here had a jealously plotline going for two chicks at the B&N. I was watching from the magazines.... His first cold approach (HBa) went great as he mentioned and she ejected for what ever reason, but she was bright red and her pupils were dilated every time he spoke. :rockon:

So a little while later he opens another chick (HBb) not far away...and she takes the bait...and who notices and starts overtly staring but HBa who frowns and pulls out her cell phone. I still remember Pinnacle saying she was calling her booty call for validation. Haha.

Great work man, lets go out again this weekend.

-Rockstar4Life:rockon:

Hahah dude i appreciate the kudos, you're too kind. I didn't even realize that HBa was still there and noticed me approaching the other girl until you guys brought it up. But it is pretty cool :yes: . I probably should have #closed both chicks, but its all good.

Matt, might I say that you are doing quite well, too. I want to watch you more in action, but its hard to hear without going right next to you ahaha. And you better not leave us when your girl gets back in town!

 

[Brak86]

I forgot one thing that happened Saturday night.

Saturday December 2nd,

I was coming back to my dorm from a party (I was on the BC shuttle bus) and I noticed this group of four loud, obnoxious, drunk girls. I noticed that one of the girls was in my Spanish class, but I hadn't really talked to her before. The bus was crowded. They were sitting and I was standing. I was looking particularly good that night (cowboy boots, jeans, and all, gotta love being a Texan :rockon: ), but I FELT really good too (a day of sarging usually gets those endorphines going.

After a little while, I hear one of the girls say "he has a nice ass" and I knew they were talking about me. I did nothing, until I feel a finger softly touch my ass! I turn around and say "heyy, are you grabbing my ass?!" I dont remember what the girl said, but she admitted that she did it.

These girls were going someplace else, so I didnt even try and didn't really know how I should have gamed them. They were to drunk to #close, prob wouldn't remember me, so I just played it off as three drunk girls having fun.

 

[Brak86]

Alright, I just called up the chick who I randomy bumped into again on Sunday
and the HB8.7 chick.

Both of them don't answer, so I leave them a message. In it, I reminded them who I was and then said somethning like this, "I was just calling to see how you were doing/what you were up to. This is really funny, but I thought about it, and I realized that you remind me exactly of..." and then I hung up.

The first girl's voicemail said to leave times of when she could call you back and i said either later tonight, or at around 5 tomorrow.

I forgot where I got this BAITING tip, but I thought it seemed like it woiuld work. I don't expect to be good at phone openers now (i mean, i didn't expect to be good at approaching in the beginning), but the more I do it, the comfortable I will be doing them.

What do you all think?

And also, I ALWAYS see girls on their cell-phones. I am curious why these girls didnt pick up (they seemed to have high interest). Maybe they were busy, but does anyone know more about girls and their cell-phones? I'm wondering if they let a lot of calls go to their voicemail and such even if they have their phone.

 

[Zero Hero]

Good stuff, brak. The only thing those drunk girls would have been good for would be a same-day lay, but obviously that would be extremely difficult since they were on their way to a party.

The baiting thing looks solid to me on paper. I've never tried it so let me know how it turns out. I would assume the girls just didn't recognize your number so that's why they didn't answer. They may not call back cause it seems girls just aren't likely to call a cold approach back (if that's how you met them). I think a better plan might be to not leave a message the first or maybe even second time. The idea is to get them curious who is calling them, but obviously you space the calls out a bit.

BTW, are you doing this in Boston?

 

[Brak86]

Good stuff, brak. The only thing those drunk girls would have been good for would be a same-day lay, but obviously that would be extremely difficult since they were on their way to a party.

The baiting thing looks solid to me on paper. I've never tried it so let me know how it turns out. I would assume the girls just didn't recognize your number so that's why they didn't answer. They may not call back cause it seems girls just aren't likely to call a cold approach back (if that's how you met them). I think a better plan might be to not leave a message the first or maybe even second time. The idea is to get them curious who is calling them, but obviously you space the calls out a bit.

BTW, are you doing this in Boston?

yessir, but for x-mas break I'm going back to Dallas and I'll probably sarge there. I will let you all know when I sarge in Dallas.

 

[Brak86]

Wednesday December 6th,

Alright, I just got a text message from the blonde girl (HB8.7) who didn't pick up her phone last night for whatever reason (I left her a voice message last night).

But lo and behold, she sends me a text message today:

"So who is it I remind you of? Your message was cut off last night whistle: ), and I just listened to it. Im awful with checking voicemails, but now Im in class...no fun."

To which I replied,

"ahah you're in class and you're talking to boys?! You are naughty...I'll call you later."

I purposely did not tell her I she reminds me of. That would ruin the surprise! I'm still debating, but I will probably call her later tonight and see how it goes."

By the way, I'm literally telling you all EVERYTHING thats happening with my life in sarging, so you all better appreciate it and go out and improve yourselves! :rockon: I love reading other journals and FRs.