Are Dating Apps really that bad right now

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I have previously advocated strategic cold approaching in venues where it isn't frowned upon. I am 100% sure you guys are already practicing this, but when y'all go on here and say cold approaching is king with vague context, you are letting us assume that y'all are out here approaching random women left in right in public spaces or areas where approaching strangers isn't genuinely welcomed. I just find it very hard to believe that y'all are just pulling 10/10 ass from the personal checkout kroger section every day with ease. No matter great your frame/game is, a situation like I described can happen in certain environments.

No, the thing is, when you do enough approaching, you become attractive enough that women start approaching you. And you become attuned to where and how you should interact with women without becoming unwelcome.

With dating apps, all you need are good pictures and basic social IQ to succeed on them.

Succeed is such a subjective term. The type of women on dating apps tend to be the type I can also find in the Amsterdam Red Light District. If I'd just want to 'hookup', a ten minute walk and a hundred euro are a lot cheaper than spending hours swiping one hoe after another on a dating app and chatting for hours to getting them to go on a real life date, when all they want to get is attention and validation.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Are they really that bad?

My fat friend (certainly no Chad, but a sociable, very funny and intelligent guy) met his second wife and mother to his second kid on one.

Another friend met who is similar to a second wife (live together, she wears a ring, combined family).

Two female cousins met their husbands.

My other fat married friend did an experiment, not to cheat, but to check an app out of curiosity about how they’re so bad for men, and got responses, and then deleted his profile.

 

[Manure Spherian]

No, the thing is, when you do enough approaching, you become attractive enough that women start approaching you. And you become attuned to where and how you should interact with women without becoming unwelcome.

I’m now balding and graying and in the last three years have had more women starting conversations with me while out and about than the decade before them.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I’m now balding and graying and in the last three years have had more women starting conversations with me while out and about than the decade before them.

Women are getting annoyed by all the wussies out there, so they are interested in mature men, especially if you appear to have your life together. Bald and grey is not a detriment. As long as you're not boring.

 

[Bigpapa]

Agree. This is even true for experienced daygamers. I'm an experienced daygamer and my success rates are lower than I would like for them to be.

Something extremely important that people miss is timing

the main problem ( if you have at least decent social skills ) with cold approach is that you have no idea if the girl is looking for a guy or not. Most of the girls are one way or the other in some sort of a relationship. Hence the low success rate

If a girl really likes the guy she is seeing is a very uphill battle, no matter how amazing you are

In social settings is a bit easier to distinguish who is “looking” for a guy , girls that want to be approached leave subtle clues that they want to be approached. Not necessarily iois, but more in the sense that they put themselves in situations that an approach can happen

If you are not interested in buying a car, no car salesman can sell you one, unless it is an incredible deal