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    "definitely not having sex with you" sh!t test

    Update! So guess who called last night offering me an apology. She knew she came off pretty harsh, I told her I wasn't mad and that if she wasn't into me its no problem and we can go our separate ways. She went on to say that she's only slept with a handful of people and that she just...
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    What made you bad with women before discovering this site?

    9 year relationship that ended when she met some other guy who totally out gamed my AFC ass; broke my heart, serious thoughts of suicide, but instead of getting mad or bitter, I got BETTER. Found this site and started upped my game; got my money, style and personality in order and I'm still...
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    Let this one go?

    You need more plates.
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    Deangelo's Wedding Video

    Uhhh ya think? I'm pretty well put together and could easily score a bl0wjob in the bathroom of a gay bar, only problem is I DON'T LIKE MEN! As many of already pointed out Eban Pagan is a marketer, who cares if the guy is a fraud, I never gave him any of my money. And if it wasn't for him this...
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    "definitely not having sex with you" sh!t test

    Ok so two identical scenarios from this past weekend, Friday: Had a chick over (different from this girl) this is our second date, we're on my couch making out. Long story short, she's a little shy, doesn't want to **** but gives me a handjob, (haha, is this 9th grade?) she also texted me on...
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    "definitely not having sex with you" sh!t test

    Hehe, not bad, but as my mentor would say "No chick wants to fvck after eating a turkey sandwich". I've given her "one more chance" 2 or 3 times already so its time to move on.
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    "definitely not having sex with you" sh!t test

    Iceberg has it I think, if this was a first night pick up in a bar, and she dropped that line, who cares, but this pretty far along. She just texted asking to go to lunch, I'm going to give her the "nah I'm busy", I've got other plates spinning and I feel she's misleading me which is disrespectful.
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    "definitely not having sex with you" sh!t test

    Been on 5 or so dates with this girl, furthest I've gotten was just kissing. She seems to show high IOI so I've been working to close her. She wanted to hang out yesterday, I told her she could come over to my place and we could get cozy. Her response: "I'm definitely not going to have sex with...
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    Vatoloco's Observation Log

    This is some dynamite sh!t vatoloco, keep it coming.
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    Call 'em out on lack of interest?

    I should add this isn't a oneitis or no other options thing, I'm currently gaming a number of women at various stages. I'm looking at this as more of a tactic to employ when dealing with women in general, not necessarily trying to recover this particular chick.
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    Call 'em out on lack of interest?

    Went on a date with a girl, went pretty well (2nd base). She started a new job a few days later, and has been doing training for it. Hit her up via text here and there "let's hit happy hour/yoga/etc", she seems responsive but I keep getting the "how about next week" response. When this...
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    How to be still be fun with groups but avoid the gay vibe?

    More kino and innuendo can help, but you want to diffuse her gaydar before it even starts. Try and incorporate more of your serious/cool guy stuff, what about that approach is more masculine and alpha? Maybe your range from lone wolf to crowd pleaser is too wide, are you going too over the top...
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    Anyone just picked up and moved to another country before?

    Immigration is the hard part, Commonwealth countries (Australia, Canada, Great Britain) and EU countries are tough to get into if you don't have a reason. And "I want to nail your hot women" isn't a good enough reason. ;-) You need a job, immediate relative with citizenship or some very...
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    trust issues.

    Wrong. Trust is EARNED not given, and men who give their trust to women up front (especially in this time) are AFC's to the max. Trust should be accumulated like drops in a bucket, but most women aren't worth keeping around until the bucket is full. I trust me, I trust my brothers...
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    do you guys confront girls about bs?

    Thats some Inception sh!t you got going on in your post vatoloco, I like it. First off OP, only have "the talk" if you want the relationship to go somewhere, if you're just fvcking her, and she's letting her ex fvck her too, than who gives a ****. Don't be territorial with your plates, it...
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    Don't underestimate ANY woman

    Thread over. When dating chicks in their early 20's think about how stupid you were at that age; add to the fact this is a female. OP it sucks being hurt, but you got to protect yourself my brother, ESPECIALLY when dealing with these young bimbos.
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    Pua doesn't work if you got aids, cancer, handicapped and/or deformed

    Yep, troll, but I'll go ahead and feed it for future reference. Game is what you build when you are trying to make up for the fact you're broke or confined to a wheelchair, disfigured face or whatever "handicap" you have. You build game and confidence to project the real you; the stable...
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    I quit bothering with US women years ago.

    Explain how this is supposed to work to your average adult male living in a major American city.
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    sometimes, you are going to do absoutly nothing wrong

    Thanks posting this BB, I needed to read this. Been down on myself for a few good dates that didn't go anywhere. Got to remember its a numbers game.
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