I get the OP’s point and agree completely.
In a social circle, women do size up your relationship history. They won’t ask you directly, but there is enough gossip where they can find out second hand.
If you’re not a known player and you don’t have any known LTRs with women, they will try...
A lot to unpack here, but I will say that your situation is not uncommon in 2023.
I would put sex on hold temporarily.
You need to get very comfortable with making out and associated touching/petting first.
Absolutely. I would add that a lot of top former PUAs had a code name or PUA name of sorts. It wasn’t just to have a cute name in the field report. I really believe they were turning on an alter ego before entering the nightclub.
(Just a side note. I don’t want to go off topic on this...
Hmm, I don’t know then.
I was referring to scenarios where sometimes a nerdy “pretty boy” can win the girl instead of a more rugged masculine guy.
But I see your point. Sounds like you have the looks.
It’s not necessarily some head to head comparison of who is more “masculine.”
It’s possible to be “mogged” by a seemingly less masculine dude due to some seemingly minor physical difference. He could be nerdy af but slightly taller or have thicker hair or slightly better face/jaw/cheekbones/eyes.
The late Player Supreme said something to the effect of “If she’s not feeling ya, she doesn’t MF-ing exist.”
On the lust topic, there is an interesting Alexander Grace video about Don’t Look at Women.
She was just gaslighting the OP because she wasn’t interested and didn’t want to say so.
I guarantee that her and her friends have dated and/or hooked up with guys they didn’t know well.
In fact, if she knows you TOO well, then it’s a one-way ticket to friendzone.
This.
Or if they later want to buy, the high rent could keep them trapped because it would make it difficult to save for a down payment. That’s all by design.
That’s awesome. With the right person, the conversation can totally flow for a lot longer than you might think.
My longest chat in recent memory was this attorney chick I met at a conference back in February. Talked for an hour.
I find it frustrating when somebody changes conversation topics rapidly. They might mention something of great interest to me and be three topics away from it by the time I have a chance to respond. (Extroverts, especially extroverted women tend to do this more ime.)
I would love to be able...
There are typically two types of FZ.
1. Getting FZed after one or more actual dates. (Good advice on this is above.)
2. The more insidious long term FZ where you get to know a chick over time and hang out a lot but haven’t gone on a proper “date.” Or even if you both dress up and go...
I’ve gotten many variations of that such as “You’re like a brother to me” or “You’re the brother I never had” or “You’re more of a brother to me than my real brother xyz.” I actually don’t mind these. Far from ideal, but not insulting.
The worst FZ I got was “You’re everything I ever wanted...
Usually they flip the script (ie gaslight) and say “I didn’t know he liked me. He never said anything.”
She always knows when her guy friend is attracted to her. She just plays dumb about it.
And this way, if she gets called out on it, she can counter with “I would have dated you/him if...
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