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Yeah that scene is really deep but spot on. I also like the one from “Marty” when he’s having dinner with his mom.

Exactly. They are late to the game as it is as late bloomers. Then they miss opportunities due to being too inexperienced to pick up subtle IOIs, and they are too passive in terms of making a move. And, as nice guys, they genuinely want to be respectful and not pushy. So they try to...

Yes. And even if they get any IOIs, they will be very weak/subtle IOIs that are easily missed or dismissed as friendliness. (Strong/solid IOIs are for the good looking guys.). So they might hang around a girl (ie orbit) for years trying to “stack evidence” that she’s interested and end...

I don’t disagree. It’s very common now. It went from around 6 percent of guys to nearly 30 percent these days. I said “half given up” for a reason. They definitely and rightly pursue other things like work/career and nerdy hobbies while still holding out some hope that their luck with...

They start out as guys with little or no experience with women due to any number of factors eg, shyness, introversion, autism, controlling parents, lack of looks. They continue to fall behind other guys because it isn’t easy to get that experience or make up for lost time/experience...

Buffets have disappeared from our local tribal casinos.

I’m not taking sides here; this is purely anecdotal. I had one male boss that was a dik / bully. I’ve had three women bosses that have all been positive, supportive and great to work with.

They obviously had “frame.”

If you are single on VD, there’s no friends or family that you can call or text that night lol.

I went from 192 to 175 lbs in the past few months. I eat three small meals a day under 500 calories each on average. That means I burn up ~500+ per day or about a pound a week without even trying. No fasting, no starving and not counting any exercise. I’m headed for 168 ish. I’m 5’10”. My...

What made the “plate” initially seem promising as noted in the title? Did the first part of the conversation go well?

One minor point is to keep the first few dates short. I would get overly comfortable and talk with her for 2+ hours. That often led to friendzone. You end up forming a “connection,” but the wrong kind. She gets very comfortable with you, but that’s it.

I didn’t mean direct message. Was talking about dancing monkey above.

Today DM is pretty much called jestermaxxing.

Years ago, there was advice to “Find a hot chick who doesn’t know she’s hot.” Nobody offers that advice anymore for obvious reasons lol.

The term MGTOW has largely fallen out of use. Plenty of guys fit the term MGTOW, but they don’t call themselves MGTOW even if they are familiar with the term.

A canned opener can be used, and then improvise the conversation after that.

Travel, food and dogs. The Big 3 of chick’s dating profiles lol.

Agreed. My buddy told me the same thing. He said I should have gotten that valuable feedback. I was shocked/surprised and kind of crushed. I froze up and cut the conversation short without thinking.

Excessive P use can also mess with a guy’s ability to make proper eye contact. He might struggle to look women in the eye in real life due to an underlying shame and increased anxiety, or it can go another way and he can catch himself inappropriately staring at boobs, butt and crotches.