Recap:
-Met a girl through a friend, she showed a ton of interest the first night we met and insisted I stay over (although I actually slept on her couch).
-A week later (yes I waited this long) I asked her out, after things falling apart after dinner, she ultimately stayed over my place...
Anyway the reason I would not want to go is because if I do, it lowers my social status by showing I don't have something better to do, it gives her dominance because she picked the place and I'm going along with it, etc...
That's not the message I want to send.
-ngdonjuan
Ok, so I was talking about my clubbing experience with a few of my co workers in front of hot coworker C. And hot co worker C was like, oh I wish I knew about that I love going dancing and stuff. So I kind of teased her a bit, but she was like let me know when you go next time.
Later that...
Let me clarify, she's foreign and from a culture that expects the men to make the moves. She stripped to practically nothing and we were rolling around in each others sweat all night, she didn't stop any of my advances. She grabbed one of my nipples, etc... I had my hands under her lingerie...
I seduced a beauty and got her back in bed on the first date, but despite her being playful, I didn't have full on sex with her.
You don't have to tell me how this killed her respect for me. We made out since then and such but we're in the friend zone now and everything became less sexual...
Yeah you can ask her to buy you a drink to show you have confidence. You can look good and still come across as a creeper. At 21 a lot of girls will be older than you or looking for a guy who is so you have to try and act mature. Talk slowly and with a deep voice. Lead with a question or...
Never ask a girl that doesn't know you at a club to dance with you. That puts you in the creep category and she won't.
Do say hi and start a conversation but be sure to make eye contact first don't shout. And try to do it from next to her, maybe accidentally bump. Easiest at the bar or...
I'm also considering saying "would you're best friend become jealous if we became best buddies?" While I mentioned she friendzoned me a bit, she clearly is not from a culture in which she wants to be treated like a buddy. She reminds me she is a woman and wants to be treated like one. So I'm...
I want to say that I believe I can do this because I did not repeat past mistakes that I used to when in the friend zone with girls before. Things like telling her how I felt about her (didn't do that ever with this girl), trying to rationalize my way out of the friend zone by talking to her...
Okay I want to take a girl with some prior romantic history (sans full sex) out of the friend zone and get her wet as all hell. My thinking is to make plans to have a drink with her when I'm in town and if we end up at her place (usually the case) move chat into something more physical. I'm...
Talk less but be more physically aggressive at least to the point at which she is receptive. I was dancing with a girl at a club once and she said I should be more aggressive with her. It was interesting...
Anyway, I could use a few pointers before I see her next assuming I have that chance. I don't want to be completely silent in conversation but I don't want to say anything that kills the attraction either. But after making a few mistakes on text message after the other night telling her "you...
Purefilth lesson VII is well written, I'll try to put that into play asap. I wouldn't even attempt if if she seemed in love but I'm either delusional (hopefully my reality senses are mature now) but I think I may still have a shot to fix this.
Again I have other pots on the stove, they're just...
Ah crap, Greasy Pig I wish I consulted you before. Yeah I went to pick her up to spend an hour with her. Cause I made dinner plans elsewhere to play hard to get. She said she wasn't feeling well, and asked me to just come in.
So we end up talking in her bed, but I didn't even sit right...
I don't know let's keep this simple. I sacrificed some casual play to try and win the war with this girl. I didn't show any physical interest. But maybe I should introduce a little bit. Basically how do I stay on the sweet spot of showing her I'm interested enough that she should pursue me...
Don't lie about age. But don't say it unless she asks and if you do, don't make a big deal about it. If you're uncomfortable with an age gap then it could make her feel that way too. If you play it off as just a number than that's all it will be.
Late 20's early 30's hitting on 18-22 is...
So I went from about 10 years with basically no dates and a couple one night encounters to dating, hooking up with, grinding up with, sleeping with you name it several dozen women in the past year or so. Some of these are mostly pretty only in my eyes, but many are like the girl every guy is...
Things since improved dramatically for me. Then they fell apart. Made plans to go overseas to turn the tables and a month before leaving I met someone okay guys probably an 8.8 on the HB scale and I am a tough critic and it felt like things were moving really well but we didn't officialize it...
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