Fellas stop thinking you're not good looking enough

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How common is this archetype?
Even the generically Red Pilled are recognizing
that:

-Being able to recite Manosphere shibboleths (Gynocentrism, Hypergamy, Spinning Plates, bringing on the ever-expanding color pallete of Pills)ad nauseum isn't especially valuable, if a fella isn't looking after himself in the most basic ways

-Contrary to what the tenets of Red Pill Theology dictate, women also have to make a conscious effort to be attractive, each day they roll out of bed
 

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Even the generically Red Pilled are recognizing
that:

-Being able to recite Manosphere shibboleths (Gynocentrism, Hypergamy, Spinning Plates, bringing on the ever-expanding color pallete of Pills)ad nauseum isn't especially valuable, if a fella isn't looking after himself in the most basic ways

-Contrary to what the tenets of Red Pill Theology dictate, women have to work at this stuff also, albeit in different ways
I’ll listen in my car ride to work. I approve of the guy’s Joy Division shirt.
 

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That's fine when you're a teen in high school. Not afterwards, especially when you're claiming to be a man, and not a child
Right, which is why I only wear band shirts on Halloween or at a concert.
 

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Right, which is why I only wear band shirts on Halloween or at a concert.
Among other things, that guy was wearing such attire at a coffee shop. This sort of thing being a hindrance endemic among modern men has long been noted https://www.badgerandblade.com/foru...0-years-ago-just-plain-and-drab.303516/page-3

It's refreshing to see that "men's content" does seem to be shifting it's emphasis towards the question "What do we do to help ourselves, even if in small ways, on a day to day basis?", rather than on groaning over how f-cked up women are, and bemoaning the fact that they refuse to change in some fundamental way
 

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Even the generically Red Pilled are recognizing
that:

-Being able to recite Manosphere shibboleths (Gynocentrism, Hypergamy, Spinning Plates, bringing on the ever-expanding color pallete of Pills)ad nauseum isn't especially valuable, if a fella isn't looking after himself in the most basic ways

-Contrary to what the tenets of Red Pill Theology dictate, women also have to make a conscious effort to be attractive, each day they roll out of bed
‘Walter’ has at least two strikes against him. He is facially unattractive. And, probably worse, comes across as a nerdy dork. But kudos for him pressing on in the face of her initial rejection at the door.

I will take exception to the narrator’s rag on Starbucks. You gotta love a company that has, as policy, an allowance for employees to give a free coffee to a customer they’ve taken a shine to.
 

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Nothing wrong with wearing that to pick up coffee
There will always similarly be women who grow out their underarm hair, and invoke a rationale along these lines https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/...proudly-flaunts-armpit-hair-magazine-64878121 Quote: . "For me, body hair is another opportunity for women to exercise their ability to choose — a choice based on how they want to feel and their associations with having or not having body hair."

Kings to those who can do that sort of crap and not suffer noticeable social repercussions. Most of us can't
 

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There will always similarly be women who grow out their underarm hair, and invoke a rationale along these lines https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/...proudly-flaunts-armpit-hair-magazine-64878121 Quote: . "For me, body hair is another opportunity for women to exercise their ability to choose — a choice based on how they want to feel and their associations with having or not having body hair."

Kings to those who can do that sort of crap and not suffer noticeable social repercussions. Most of us can't
Does anyone dress up to get coffee at Starbucks? Other than a suit if on the way to work.
 

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Does anyone dress up to get coffee at Starbucks?
We're in real trouble if throwing on a polo or a button up + putting on slacks before one leaves the house is now considered "dressing up". Society isn't going to adopt a more conciliatory stance towards men, until more of us start respecting ourselves. This was self-explanatory to men who lived in the not too distant past, and who faced obstacles far more daunting than we moderns do today
 

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#1) Beautiful women are everywhere. Hot women are not a rare commodity to be put on a pedestal. There are more attractive women 35 and under than non-attractive women.

#2) How many times have you seen a guy dating a woman a couple of notches (and more) above his own looks scale. More times than you can count.

There is a woman at my gym (solid 8) and probably mid 30's who I've noticed in the past looking in my direction. Since I sometimes suffer from a scarcity mindset, I got all excited.

However, I warned myself not to get oneitis since I don't know anything about her and she is more than likely NOT single.

Last week at the gym I overheard her say what her name was to a male patron who recognized her from somewhere.

Tonight, I just happened to go on Facebook and type her name in and the town where our gym is.

Yep, she's engaged and the guy looks very Joe Average with a soft body

Remember folks, if you don't think you're good enough, some other guy will. Chances are, the guy will be less attractive than you too!

It's also, another great reason NOT to get oneitis. Here you are constantly thinking about a certain female you probably never talked to and she's not even single. Your sitting at home thinking about her while she's getting smashed by her boyfriend, fiance/husband.
Most men look like most men. When we think about a ripped dude we obviously understand that he might look attractive to the opposite sex. Yet he DID put in tons of work.

No matter your colour, you can ALWAYS mimic someone who "looks like you" and is killing it with the ladies. Heck, sometimes even dudes who look worse than you yielding way way better results.

My cliche phrase these days is we teach the world how we wanna be treated. You are the product. If you don't care about the product you won't maintain, or even better, improve it. Let alone bother to actually sell it.
 

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Becuase it incites a mindset in men much like you have displayed here

Men shouldn't be "competing" for women because they don't really offer much outside of sex and child bearing

What are you exactly competing for !?! , I've just explained why the barrier to entry for female beauty is LOW

It is the man who has to build the majority of the financial and economic structure to support the family .....this is far from easy

Women love men who compete for them because their easily manipulated and a woman has natural skills in manipulation keeps the game heavily titlted in their favour
I agree.

Imagine yourself sleeping with a different hot woman every Week.

Won't take long before you heard it all, seen it all and done it all.

Scarcity mindset is one of the best phrases the RP made big . Because as soon as man finds a way to let go of that, he'll be above women. But contrary to that: as long as you chase them by default you are running behind them.

The biggest takeaway should be that the type of man THEY chase = a man with low to none scarcity . Imagine yourself looking your best making bank while knowing the game. A place where your time is so valuable you couldn't care less about what a strange "aking to retarded " woman thinks about you...

A woman /women must become a toy to a man rather than a life saving entity.
 

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So, are you saying that in modern society, stoics—who are often considered the greatest men—are losers in what sense? In terms of attracting women?

If that's the case, I always thought that stoics engage in the game in a passive or indirect way, allowing women to come to them because of their inherent value. Instead of playing the game directly, they focus on increasing their value and are seen as a prize.

For example, I have a friend who, for three years, focused solely on himself—no dating, nothing. He transformed his life and became a personal trainer on his own. Now, he has significantly increased his value, thanks in part to social media.
What he portrays is genuinely him: a healthy lifestyle, travel, workouts, friendships, cooking, pets, family, and so on. He train other people, and had the time to build connections. (real ones).
He still doesn't engage in dating, but he enjoys everything else. You can imagine how popular he has become in the city; women with a lifestyle similar to his, which live in the city, wants him. He became a prize being himself.



Additionally, stoic individuals tend to attract a certain type of woman. In this case, you filter out all the "sluts" or "crazy" women that you would attract with PUA or other techniques, and attract those who align with your lifestyle.

Because you attract what you are—just like the saying goes, "We are what we eat," right?
And yes as you've said we can't do nothing to it: Social media really changed the world, giving women too much they don't need.


also https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/self-improvement-is-masturbation.243060/

ps: Please explain what do you exactly mean with "dystopic female-sexual-choice zeitgeist" in the sosuave "theme". It's interesting to know more
It's only been very recent where being a good stoic wasn't in and of itself an effective tool in attracting a good woman.
 

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A woman /women must become a toy to a man rather than a life saving entity.
I came across an article within the femosphere a few weeks ago and it was this Boss B1tch talking about how she has all this power and control in her day to day life but when it comes to sex she just wants to be used and degraded

She wrote the article because she didn't understand what was going on in her own mind and wanted other womens opinions

But I sussed out what was going on straight away .........The feminine is submissive by nature and by default she wants to submit and relinquish all control to her masculine opposite especially when it comes to sex

I mean think how it makes us feel when a woman submits and we conquer her it makes us FEEL more masculine

THAT is what she feels about submitting but on the opposite end , she feels more feminine when she relinquishes control and inhibitions

She can't do that if your allowing her total control and supplicating her
 

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I came across an article within the femosphere a few weeks ago and it was this Boss B1tch talking about how she has all this power and control in her day to day life but when it comes to sex she just wants to be used and degraded

She wrote the article because she didn't understand what was going on in her own mind and wanted other womens opinions

But I sussed out what was going on straight away .........The feminine is submissive by nature and by default she wants to submit and relinquish all control to her masculine opposite especially when it comes to sex

I mean think how it makes us feel when a woman submits and we conquer her it makes us FEEL more masculine

THAT is what she feels about submitting but on the opposite end , she feels more feminine when she relinquishes control and inhibitions

She can't do that if your allowing her total control and supplicating her

Sharp minded women recognize the truth of this
 
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