There's a dose of sardonic hyperbole to both of those archetypes, though not much. As was mentioned elsewhere
https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/video-on-why-nightlife-is-dying.282050/page-4#post-3122285 , check out the number of men(And the audience for that crap is almost exclusively guys above the age of 25, who are still deeply enmeshed in entertainment designed for kids in elementary school)who tune into Midnight's Edge's three hour laments over the state of Star Wars a few times per week. Note how many men got up on the Gamergate and Comicsgate bandwagon. Now take a look at what sort of shape these fellas are overwhelmingly in. Damned near all of them could be central male characters in Knocked Up
I wasn't being flip in this thread
https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threa...-taught-you-so-far.282214/page-4#post-3122390 when I asked: Men who grew up in The 80s, 90s, and all decades afterwards.. Unless you come from a 1% family, how often did you see your own pops/the men in your life more generally wear a suit, dinner jacket, or/and a tuxedo? On those rare occasions that they did, were their garments high-end and tailored, or off the rack and ill fitting? Did the fellas who you were surrounded by in your childhood revel in despising such things? Did your pops and his drinking buddies regularly denigrate men who were at the top of the food chain(And who never walked out of the house without looking like they were prepped for a GQ cover) as "corporate stiffs"?
Insofar modern women go... In most major metropolitan areas, it's not uncommon to run into gals who aren't high school kids anymore, yet still think it's cute to color their bangs like this chick
Or to put pics and footage like this up on cyberspace
https://hoo.be/maddiejoy https://images.app.goo.gl/QSLeZVFtc44wo5ZJ9 , even though most of these broads aren't professional glamour models or porn stars, and claim they want husbands, white picket fence houses, and kids of their own one day
No, not every dude or gal does the above, nonetheless it's more than just 2-5% of Americans who are engaged in this sort of jackassery these days