The Dark Triad theory of dating: Narcissism, Machiavellianism, Psychopathy/Sociopathy

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Napoleon is among the greatest military commanders of all time...

Yet what is he remembered for?

Bruh, Napoleon had a temper like ****ing hell. He’d throw tantrums. That’s not alpha.

Dude still got laid and conquered the damn world though, that alone will get him some pussy lol

 

[mikey2012]

Lol

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Indeed..

Narcissism, in the absence of looks or money or accomplishments is just delusional cope.... it's nothing more than an extension of the "fake it till you make it" mentality......

A short guy cannot fake dominance without eventually getting checked by a taller more masculine guy.....

A socially awkward guy cannot fake "c0cky and funny" without coming off as cringe.....

An ugly cannot run "game" without looking foolish...

Most extremely successful businessmen, atheletes and entertainers always had or developed an excessive belief in self which allowed them to become who they are.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Jeremy Meeks is not good looking though, he got swooned because the lighting highlighted his facial structure, and add to the fact he has light eyes on a black dude is considered unique. I've seen ugly dudes bag women for the sole reason they had green or blue eyes

 

[PeasantPlayer]

A short ugly guy cannot be dominant, that's just foolish cope.....well, he's dominant in his own twisted perception of himself, everyone else just mocks him but he's too delusional to see it.....

Please google the average height of CEO's in America.......

Height is not a big deal, imagine some 6"4 guy stepping up to 5"9 Tyson in the club? Tyson would break his face. A lot of MMA fighters are average height as well

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Jeremy Meeks is not good looking though, he got swooned because the lighting highlighted his facial structure, and add to the fact he has light eyes on a black dude is considered unique. I've seen ugly dudes bag women for the sole reason they had green or blue eyes

Agree. Perfect pic on that particular day. Outside the odd eye color nothing notable.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Xeno, I disagree. I was an ugly mofo back in high school bc of horrible acne. But I still had the most popular girl in the school break up with her boyfriend for me. She literally would have dreams about me (don’t ask me how I know lol). I was the one guy that was different from the rest. I can’t even tell you the countless dudes who were taller, more physically developed, stronger, and were able to actually talk to her and joke about things while making witty and ballsy comments. For whatever reason, this school had dudes there that were MEN. I don’t really know how or why, it’s not like most schools in America but those dudes knew what was up.

Anyway, there were MUCH better looking dudes than me who were also higher status. But the chick liked me. It’s been this way most of my life tbh. I always had the girls who were at the top of the social hierarchy like me for whatever reason, even though lower tier ones didn’t. Like the 1-3s liked me, 4-8 didn’t, then the 9s and 10s did. During my autism years, I don’t know why they did, I think because I was ‘cute’ with my weird little actions and mannerisms and was just so intent and hyperfocused and passionate on some tiny things so you could tell I was never really angling for anything. As I progressed in self-improvement and got more skilled socially etc., I had the same thing happening to me but rather than weird neuroticism attracting them, it was straight up testosterone dominance lol. I toned it down when I got to college but I do regret doing that because it set me back a lot. But yeah, that aggression/drive that I had, it really made me attractive to the women at the top (I’m talking 1 million followers on ig kinda top). But for whatever reason, I couldn’t stay in that state if I went to pursue those women; it’s like it would make me lose that drive for whatever reason which was the very thing that attracted them to me in the first place. A paradox of sorts.

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Anyway, things have changed now, I can get the 4-8s lol but I’m not sure about the 9s and 10s anymore. I’m not sure if it’s because my standards for looks have gone way up in recent years or if it’s because social media, online dating, hookup apps like tinder, and mainstream media have started affecting women and making them worse and more stuck up. Or if it’s oerhaps because I’m somehow just not as attractive to those women anymore since I became like those other witty dudes I went to school. Or perhaps some combination of all of these.

But that’s besides the point. What I originally wanted to say was that yes, looks *do* matter, but they don’t do everything. All looks do in regards to ‘attracting’ women is it makes them treat you like a normal human being. They don’t treat you like a king just because you’re good looking, they don’t get obsessed over you because you’re good looking, game does all that. The ONLY time good looks will make them treat you like a king or be obsessed over you is if you are famous. Jeremy Meeks only got special treatment simply because the mainstream media sensationalized him. They did all the work for him. Otherwise, he really wouldn’t gotten nearly as much babes drooling over him as he does.

So yeah, all looks really does is make women friendlier with you. That’s it. They just treat you like a normal human being. They don’t necessarily treat you ‘good’ per se or even flirt with you, you gotta have game for that. If you’re an ugly dude and you’re around an environment with a lot of hot women whom you’re gonna be forced to deal with, things like cocky + funny, sarcasm, game, dominance, etc. will get her to like you. It’ll just take longer. Doesn’t mean it’s not possible. I speak from experience.

 

[NSX-R]

Yeah, but if you are not yourself because you got trashed out in a marriage, or a long relationship and been out of the market for years at a time then what? You will have to do some self discovery.

That’s why i said you have to learn to evaluate your future lays and keep your frame. If you are “blinded” in love and don’t see all the red flags flying in front you guess what, they’ll get bigger and bigger and later you’ll be complaining all the time about how your marriage sucks and everything.
I do understand we are human beings and we are not perfect , so we have to compromise a bit , but i don’t understand why should i keep around a woman who’s low quality, has no respect but because this period of time she treats me well , that means she would do the same for the rest of her life . No . You can’t blame the system or women or that you didn’t adopt a different behavior. Things are simpler than they appear.

 

[AttackFormation]

Agree. Perfect pic on that particular day. Outside the odd eye color nothing notable.

Well, the fame and notoriety probably becomes an aphrodisiac in itself even after they "find out" that's the case.

Hysteria

In light of the Feminine Imperative having itself capsized over the UVa rape fantasy retracted by Rolling Stone this month, I was reminded of this video and post by Heartiste (Roissy) a few years a…

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[mrgoodstuff]

Well, the fame and notoriety probably becomes an aphrodisiac in itself even after they "find out" that's the case.

Hysteria

In light of the Feminine Imperative having itself capsized over the UVa rape fantasy retracted by Rolling Stone this month, I was reminded of this video and post by Heartiste (Roissy) a few years a…

therationalmale.com

Fame... As long as dude is getting that attention women will want a piece of it. That's how that works. Now if fame gets ripped and stripped out of him, they won't like him anymore.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Most extremely successful businessmen, atheletes and entertainers always had or developed an excessive belief in self which allowed them to become who they are.

Do you think this excess belief in self was always shared by or supported by the masses? No.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Growing up in the inner city of Chicago which is arguably the toughest city to grow up in I will tell you average height dudes run the county jails

 

[Xenom0rph]

Growing up in the inner city of Chicago which is arguably the toughest city to grow up in I will tell you average height dudes run the county jails

Average height guys run the county jail while 6'+ guys run fortune 500 companies...... Time for a reality check my man....

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

What is missing in this entire thread is "What works for me?" All I see is "I've seen guys blah blah blah."

Well clearly you haven’t read my post in this thread

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

These arguments existed 10-15 years ago. This is just another reiteration of it. It's noting new or anything worth reading.

A good reminder overall though, no one talks about these things as much on here anymore.

 

[Postmalonelistener]

Funny thing is that a lot of this dark triad stuff was invented by Italians and used in poliitcs at the time, particularly the Machiavellianism aspect of it. Even they cannot change the fact that women want blond haired Chads and some short greasy Mario.

I have seen ugly bad boys with hot girls but in most cases:

• The girl was pretty much subdued by him due to needing protection and safety
• The guy had a lot of money
• He had a lot of local status and power
• The woman was seriously damaged (drug addict, etc.)
• The woman was foreign and from a culture tha values looks less

So in that case, yeah you can get an ugly badboy get girls. Compare this to a Meeks, who is handsome and then produces that badboy vibe that women die for. Imagine if an ugly girl was a bad slut to you, you don't fap to ugly pornstars. Same with women and how they see men.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Funny thing is that a lot of this dark triad stuff was invented by Italians and used in poliitcs at the time, particularly the Machiavellianism aspect of it. Even they cannot change the fact that women want blond haired Chads and some short greasy Mario.

I have seen ugly bad boys with hot girls but in most cases:

• The girl was pretty much subdued by him due to needing protection and safety
• The guy had a lot of money
• He had a lot of local status and power
• The woman was seriously damaged (drug addict, etc.)
• The woman was foreign and from a culture tha values looks less

So in that case, yeah you can get an ugly badboy get girls. Compare this to a Meeks, who is handsome and then produces that badboy vibe that women die for. Imagine if an ugly girl was a bad slut to you, you don't fap to ugly pornstars. Same with women and how they see men.

Women do not want blonde men atleast not where I'm from and Meeks is not handsome he looks like a pitbull. If he didnt have light eyes he'd be a nobody but I ain't hating he's doing what presented itself to him

 

[Postmalonelistener]

Women do not want blonde men atleast not where I'm from and Meeks is not handsome he looks like a pitbull. If he didnt have light eyes he'd be a nobody but I ain't hating he's doing what presented itself to him

LOL pls, blond men are loved everywhere in the western world. Dave Beckham? Chris Hemsworth?

What kinds of men do women like in your area then?

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Average height guys run the county jail while 6'+ guys run fortune 500 companies...... Time for a reality check my man....

Like who I'm sure the heights vary. Who sits on the internet all day and Googles men's height

 

[PeasantPlayer]