I’ll add that my psychologist gave me a warning at a young age in the 90s, “If you don’t eventually find a woman, you’ll be one of the most miserable men on earth.” After that session, I decided to take care of this area. Hence I think the notion a man peaks in his 30s is a harmful meme.
Me and someone else on here were just talking about the matriarchal thing. It seems that men who don’t have a good male role model or father and a majority of the upbringing was done by his mother, he ends up an adult virgin or will struggle with women for a long time. You do have to be extraordinary in today’s dating environment as well, my family never moves but I definitely have the lack of life milestones. I lost my virginity at 21 like I already said, which isn’t too bad, but I didn’t build on that achievement and achieved nothing else in the decade to follow. Never having been in a relationship is also a life milestone that I’m still lacking that is gonna cause me problems too.
That’s so true. I never had anyone in my life to tell me that and I totally feel like one of the most miserable men on earth now and I use drinking and smoking just to be numb and help cope with the situation I’m in. Yeah that meme is totally false. If you don’t set yourself up to reach your peak when you’re still in your 20’s, then your 30’s are gonna be brutal.
The idea of the male peak being in one's 30s is a myth.
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The first 3 risk factors are applicable to me.
I grew up in a single-mother home because my father was severely mentally ill, negligent and Vice ridden.
Thanks to both of you for the candid, serious posts. I’ll try to respond tomorrow.The idea of the male peak being in one's 30s is a myth.
Are there men who do well in their 30s in the sexual marketplace? Yes.
Is that typical? No.
I fully disagree with Rollo Tomassi's idea that male SMV peak is 36 and roughly 36-40 is peak SMV. I think peak male SMV is around 25-30 for most men. The typical 30s/40s man is a pussie beggar for similarly aged women.
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The first 3 risk factors are applicable to me.
Despite that, I have managed to put up an above average lifetime notch count. I studied attraction and seduction, stayed within the normal range BMI, and had some education and career achievements (money/status has some impact but below looks). I've had plenty of disappointments and psychological trauma as I have been in the process of attracting & seducing. It's been a difficult path.
Some of the moves that I had in childhood were very damaging to me. To some degree, they are still relevant in my life as a middle aged adult.
My parents' marriage was a complete joke. The household I grew up was problem-ridden.
I only managed a height of 5'10". That's very ordinary. I'm a mid-tier man in looks. My photos have rated above average and I get some positive overall feedback on my looks but I'm not top tier/Chad territory there.
That's terrible parenting. Extracurriculars help in developing interests, social skills, social networks, and are valuable on college applications.
Your mom should not have insisted on that haircut. Moms don't know good haircuts for sons in general.
Did you go to a nearby college and live at home? That would be miserable in college. Living at home would make it quite difficult to date as an 18-23 year old adult. A lot of parents are reasonably strict about sexual activity at home AND young women don't typically desire to go back to a man's parents' place for sex.
That is the definition of a late bloomer.
Agree with all above. Yes, I lived at home and commuted to a college a half hour away. I didn’t date in college because I still had no social skills at that time. I was also an engineering student around probably 90% dudes, except for the Gen Ed classes. And I probably knew I couldn’t bring a chick home anyway. So I got into game and dating after college.
Tell her a little about yourself, but not too much. Maintain some mystery. Give her something to think about and wonder about when she's at home.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
Not that but you need to work through a ton of things in your 20s for your 30s to work out.
That was my experience too and yeah it was miserable. That was another bad thing about community college is that living at home is your only option.
Yeah I didn’t do any of that in my 20’s and now I’m 31 and it does suck. 35 probably is the point of no return like you said, so hopefully this can all be fixed before then. I got extremely depressed when I turned 30 last year because my life is what it currently is when I reached that milestone.
To make a financial profit for companies like Match dot com.
Almost all of the sexual marketplace experiences before 22-23 are based solely on circumstances.
Men frequently err by talking too much. They often monopolize conversations, droning on and on about topics that bore women to tears. They think they're impressing the women when, in reality, they're depressing the women.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
In college, a female classmate asked me for assistance in the computer lab. Rather than having me pull up a chair, she scooted over in her chair (and told me to share the seat with her). Sounds like a pretty sure sign she was into me.
I keep my dating life private, I don't bring women around friends or family unless it's serious
It's an indication of interest, but when it leads to:
You probably messed it up.
The problem with RP content creators especially on youtube is they only give a doom and gloom message. The solution? buy my book, buy my course derp derp derp. There is no actionable advice outside of lift, become rich, or be high value. The solutions are general and don't help you with charisma, social mastery i.e. how to talk to women etc. It's bascially very watered-down PUA advice but a lot of doom and gloom preaching. That's why a lot of these podcasts bring on the bimbo's but do you see any game from the podcasters trying to chat these women up? hell no it's just them trying to argue about stuff that is already known again and again and again. This is why I feel abd for kids in their 20s the era of field reports are dead, actionable advice is now relegated to just being "High
I would take it a step further that a lot of Chads(and Tyrones) are also smashing women far below their SMV, I've seen this (all races) of a guy who is great looking, in fantastic shape banging a fattie or UG chick. Obviously it's easier for them to bang these types but it blows my mind how everyone assumes Chad/Tyrone are only banging hotties when it's not the case. A lot of those guys will smash fatties/UG's too heck I know some one guy personally who has done body building and he smashes the fattest chicks, lmfao. LIke there is no point IMO of working out if you wanna do that.
