Roosh's sister died in March 2018 per the article below. May 2019 was when Roosh stopped talking about seduction. He started unpublishing his old books gradually after that.Roosh's sister died of breast cancer!? damn i didn't know that's very sad to hear
damn that explains a lot - he seemed to do such a drastic U-turn that it makes sense that it must have been something horrific going on behind the scenes that motivated that change - i had no idea i thought he converted to Christianity due to mental burn out from pua but this makes a lot more sense thanks for clarifyingRoosh's sister died in March 2018 per the article below. May 2019 was when Roosh stopped talking about seduction. He started unpublishing his old books gradually after that.
The sister that died of breast cancer was a younger sister who was in her early 30s at the time of death. In March 2018, Roosh was in his late 30s.
Roosh has erased himself from the internet to a large degree at this point. He unpublished the seduction manuals, ended his own website, ended Return of Kings, and ended his forum.
Roosh was influential for me. I read "Day Bang" soon after it was published in late 2011 and it turned from a primarily night game approacher to a primarily day game approacher. For years prior to 2011-2012, I had been wanting to reduce my dependence on night game. I was coming up on age 30 at the time and had been going to college parties and bars seeking pussie for a while.damn that explains a lot - he seemed to do such a drastic U-turn that it makes sense that it must have been something horrific going on behind the scenes that motivated that change - i had no idea i thought he converted to Christianity due to mental burn out from pua but this makes a lot more sense thanks for clarifying
whats you background if I may ask?Very simple, they couldn't live with that fake playboy persona anymore, they became mythomaniac. I'm pretty sure they had no mental issue whatsoever before becoming PUAs.
Those guys were businesses, scamming naive and desperate men was a lucrative business but I guess that after some times, morality questions kicked in and they found themselves trapped somehow, they couldn't back to a normal life, their whole existence was based on lies, not pleasant to live as an impostor 24/7.
Then PUAs got bad press, those guys realized that it would ruin their name and reputation, so they pretended to have some kind of issues or stop Pickup artistry and switch to self improvement, some just completely disappeared to be forgotten.
Best example is Roosh, if you guys believe his religion BS... lol
They are all a bunch of scammers. I read them all, watch them all for years. I was young and naive and believed everything they said. No I'm older and realize what they really are: losers
What do you mean?whats you background if I may ask?
I disagree that prominent PUAs had mental issues prior to become PUAs.I'm pretty sure they had no mental issue whatsoever before becoming PUAs.
There have always been what we now call Proto-Incels; sexually frustrated men who cannot get laid with a high risk of exploding into violence. Check out, for instance, David Berkowitz, a serial killer named 'Son of Sam' who terrorised New York with 'random' killings of couples making out in cars. Berkowitz is every bit an incel, but before the term was coined.Neil Strauss would be a good example. Before Neil Strauss linked up with Mystery and other PUAs, he was an incel/borderline incel. That's unique because Strauss is a Gen X'er born in 1969. Incels were not nearly as common before the 1980s born Millennials.
How do you know that? Because he said so?Strauss was one of the most successful PUA students ever, going from a near zero to a high notch count guy.
No one knows for sure how many women that Strauss has had sex with. Do you know what Strauss' notch count is?How do you know that? Because he said so?
You'd have to look at him as a woman. Attraction isn't as straightforward for women as it is for men.When I have watched videos of Neil Strauss on YouTube, I have not understood his sexual appeal. I have seen guys get laid when I couldn't figure out their appeal before.
Yeah... Pre-internet, these fellas had far fewer excuses for not walking out of their front doors, and making historyCheck out, for instance, David Berkowitz, a serial killer named 'Son of Sam' who terrorised New York with 'random' killings of couples making out in cars. Berkowitz is every bit an incel, but before the term was coined.
The only difference between Berkowitz and the common incel is that now, with internet access, these sexually frustrated men can find their peers. And while some incels realise they can do something about themselves and get laid and not be 'victims', most of them enjoy their victim status too much to change
I prefer to be neither.Would rather be incel/volcel than burned out PUA with high notch count. Neither option looks too good tbh.
Your some guy that takes part in mostly 'alternative' amsterdam scenes and other types of non-'normal' situations obviously you have found refuge in a third way but that is not entirely 'normal'. Just goes to show how messed a situation we're in when discussing the extremes of PUA vs Incel we get a 'dungeonmaster' come in to give his opinion.I prefer to be neither.
Only the sheeple relish conformity to the 'norm'.obviously you have found refuge in a third way but that is not entirely 'normal'.
Well, you can call me what you want, but this lot clearly needs an objective observer and educated referee. Just be glad I'm not a moderator here.Just goes to show how messed a situation we're in when discussing the extremes of PUA vs Incel we get a 'dungeonmaster' come in to give his opinion.
It was meant as a joke/sarcasm/humour but i think you get that.Only the sheeple relish conformity to the 'norm'.
Well, you can call me what you want, but this lot clearly needs an objective observer and educated referee. Just be glad I'm not a moderator here.
I do know you have a sense of humour. Unlike the sheeple.It was meant as a joke/sarcasm/humour but i think you get that.