What to do now - dont want to make mistake

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Update: now she doesn’t have a profile picture on WhatsApp. So she either deleted my number or deleted her profile picture to test if I’m scared that she might blocked me to make me text her and find out so a test.

Update: you're too emotionally invested in this woman to follow your game plan to put her on No Contact. No Contact is not for 'winning back your ex' but to ground you to pursue other women. Forget about this one.

 

[Agamemnon43]

This is pure chaos, I would completely pull out right now just to save myself from further headache. Don't let women complicate your life so much. Or rather complicate your life yourself. She is damaged goods. Your vacation was a fairytale and it ended. But you'll come to terms with it eventually.

 

[The Diver]

Update: now she doesn’t have a profile picture on WhatsApp. So she either deleted my number or deleted her profile picture to test if I’m scared that she might blocked me to make me text her and find out so a test.
On Instagram and Snapchat were still followed and friends.
really weird sh1t…. Don’t know what to think about it.
My last message goodnight is still on grey not read
It’s probably just a test otherwise she would delete me off snap and IG means she wants me to reach out and make me think about her dududu
* I can see the status “Hi I use WhatsApp” so that means she didn’t block me just deleted her profile picture or deleted my number.
She’s playing games

Man, you use a LOT of assumptions.
The truth is you don't know what she did and why. The only thing you sure know is that she left your last message on Not Read.
My rule of thumb is not to double-text and wait for her reply. If she won't reply. It's a dead end.

 

[TheGambino]

What the fvck are you planning something long future with a girl who has been permanently damaged byt that? Oh man you're like a guy who can't get enough problems, you seek women who are very damaged, that's your life, we all can see in every post about women.

If this woman didn't go to therapy for years, she is damaged and will hook you up and make your life a living hell. Some men just deserve to suffer over and over for eternity.

“Its just my luck I’m stuck fvckin with the wrong one” - 2pac

Idk man, I like her a lot but I completely understand what your saying

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

“Its just my luck I’m stuck fvckin with the wrong one” - 2pac

Idk man, I like her a lot but I completely understand what your saying

Another case where 'understanding' doesn't mean 'acceptance and adherence'.

I think you have to bash your head against the wall of your understanding and take action according to your knowledge and not your flights of fancy.

 

[TheGambino]

Another case where 'understanding' doesn't mean 'acceptance and adherence'.

I think you have to bash your head against the wall of your understanding and take action according to your knowledge and not your flights of fancy.

What do you mean man

 

[Clockwerk50]

Update: now she doesn’t have a profile picture on WhatsApp. So she either deleted my number or deleted her profile picture to test if I’m scared that she might blocked me to make me text her and find out so a test.

On Instagram and Snapchat were still followed and friends.

really weird sh1t…. Don’t know what to think about it.

My last message goodnight is still on grey not read

It’s probably just a test otherwise she would delete me off snap and IG means she wants me to reach out and make me think about her dududu

* I can see the status “Hi I use WhatsApp” so that means she didn’t block me just deleted her profile picture or deleted my number.

She’s playing games

Just like when you saw your ex about a month ago at a bar holding hands with another guy, and you thought she was trying to get a reaction out of you, I hope you understand that this new girl isn’t doing things on WhatsApp to trick you into giving her attention.

You do seem to make a lot of assumptions about these wishy-washy girls, their actions, and how they are trying to seduce you in exchange for your commitment and interest.

I would be looking deeply as to why you are so invested in these women that literally treat you like crap and do not provide any benefits to your life. Talk to more women; I hope you are not like this with your male friends.

 

[TheGambino]

Just like when you saw your ex about a month ago at a bar holding hands with another guy, and you thought she was trying to get a reaction out of you, I hope you understand that this new girl isn’t doing things on WhatsApp to trick you into giving her attention.

You do seem to make a lot of assumptions about these wishy-washy girls, their actions, and how they are trying to seduce you in exchange for your commitment and interest.

I would be looking deeply as to why you are so invested in these women that literally treat you like crap and do not provide any benefits to your life. Talk to more women; I hope you are not like this with your male friends.

I will. Thanks.
So you think it’s low interest/over period?

if the answer is yes I will forget about her and move on if you think there could be nothing going on I will call her Saturday of next week somewhere.

Maybe I’m making false assumptions and she just deleted her profile pic. She still follows on Instagram and Snapchat

 

[Clockwerk50]

I will. Thanks.
So you think it’s low interest/over period?

if the answer is yes I will forget about her and move on if you think there could be nothing going on I will call her Saturday of next week somewhere.

Maybe I’m making false assumptions and she just deleted her profile pic. She still follows on Instagram and Snapchat

The current facts are that you can no longer see her picture on WhatsApp and you were the last to text her. When someone is highly interested, their actions are clear; they actively seek to maintain the relationship by staying in touch. For example, she would likely have sent you a message like "Good morning, Gambino," responded quickly, and done everything in her power to stay connected.

It does look like she is low interest, or the at very least, you are in the “break in case of emergency” bucket. Talk to more women so when or if she reaches out you don’t sound needy, irrational, emotional, and pathetic.

 

[TheGambino]

Deleted her number, moving on unless she texts. Case closed

I’m happy I can fall back on you guys like brothers. This forum has done wonderful things for me, still growing stronger everyday. By the way this girl is a absolute 10. Half Russian half Dutch blonde, slim, gorgeous face that’s the reason of all of this but my pride and self worth is worth more then a girl.

 

[Lotus Effect]

Vacation is similar to clubs/bar when you meet women.

It's a "fantasy world" where the normal realities don't exist. The club/bar for the night, the vacation for the time they are there.

The biggest mistake is guys think that because something happened on vacation that once they are back in the grind of the real world that things will just continue where they left off.

But that's not how it works. Once vacation ends, you are both in a different world and it's very hard to go from one world to the other no matter what happened or how many times you fvcked her.

High likelihood that you don't see her again. You should never expect anything to last once vacation ends. It's just a different mindset women are in when they are on vacation and they see it as something fun and exciting but then once they go home they are back to their "normal life" and usually the guy on vacation doesn't fit into that life.

Maybe things will be different but you should never expect anything that happens under those circumstances to continue after.

If anything you should keep it casual and light and have no expectations that anything will happen. Anything that does happen from this point forward is a bonus.

This.
When we were both back to 'real life', I had a girl once telling me up front 'Hey, that was vacay me, so things might play different out here'. It did.

No offense to any of you guys, I used to be frustrated by it as well.

Once you understand the game to a higher degree and start playing your hand correctly, it won't be frustrating anymore.

Its a turnoff to a woman when you act on your urges and tempations too often, even though they might like it at the moment.

All women want a leader(a solid rock). A leader doesn't give into someones wishes every time. She is looking for someone to define some boundaries, thats how she knows she can have faith in you later on in the relationship.

And this.

The Duke's view can even outplay the vacation card, because that is how you should act no matter when/where you meet up with a chick, and you can eventually meet on some vacay.

 

[TheGambino]

Also not contacting her will show her and myself a lot of things in this situation.

IF she comes back she knows stupid games won’t effect me but make me grow distant.

Also either if she’s playing games for me to chase or she is showing clear message that she’s not attracted anymore she will still respect me for not chasing like other 95% of the guys did with her or worse stalk her. Women only love men they respect.

it also shows she can’t manipulate me means she will view me as strong so more respect.

Also it shows myself I can move on from sh*t behavior which will upgrade self respect for every man.

She will miss me. She wonders where I stand.

This is the right decision. All good

 

[The Duke]

While I think this used to be true, I also percieve today's grandparents to be some of the worst influence on children's upbringing. I observe several of them in my wider family and they are awful. Too agreeable, too allowing for everything, too reacting to everything children do, needy for cuddling, kissing, don't teach the kids anything valuable, just weak and meek presence in children's lives. All they give them is "love" and they can't help themselves because they are addicted to seeing their grandchilldren 'cause they have nothing to do in lives. Just sad. Opposite of what it used to be. I usually find parents more stern than grandparents.
I had to get this out, lol

I understand where you are coming from and agree however, I'm referring to situations that go deeper than that. Thats not what I would consider "raising" someone. Thats just spoiling someone. It goes beyond being a grandparent. Its basically when grandparents with old school values step in and act more like parents than the actual grandparents.

 

[Canadian_Man]

Update: now she doesn’t have a profile picture on WhatsApp. So she either deleted my number or deleted her profile picture to test if I’m scared that she might blocked me to make me text her and find out so a test.

On Instagram and Snapchat were still followed and friends.

really weird sh1t…. Don’t know what to think about it.

My last message goodnight is still on grey not read

It’s probably just a test otherwise she would delete me off snap and IG means she wants me to reach out and make me think about her dududu

* I can see the status “Hi I use WhatsApp” so that means she didn’t block me just deleted her profile picture or deleted my number.

She’s playing games

You play games, so you see games.

Who knows what she is doing, it very well could have nothing to do with you.

 

[The Duke]

Update: now she doesn’t have a profile picture on WhatsApp. So she either deleted my number or deleted her profile picture to test if I’m scared that she might blocked me to make me text her and find out so a test.

On Instagram and Snapchat were still followed and friends.

really weird sh1t…. Don’t know what to think about it.

My last message goodnight is still on grey not read

It’s probably just a test otherwise she would delete me off snap and IG means she wants me to reach out and make me think about her dududu

* I can see the status “Hi I use WhatsApp” so that means she didn’t block me just deleted her profile picture or deleted my number.

She’s playing games

You know what kind of girls play games? Insecure ones and/or ones with low interest. This one is both.

You're getting twisted up in your head like you do every time. Don't let your ego and emotional attachment cloud your vision to see this clearly.

You go on a few vacation style dates with a girl and are almost consumed with her. Thats too much. The right way to see this is "hey, I went on vacation, met this girl, lots of drinking & fun & laid back times. Anybody can like each other during those times". You know little about this girl and she knows little about you. But one thing she figured out is you cave pretty easy and are way too accomodating way too early. She saw that as weakness.

Also, it was just vacation. she might of had a boyfriend at home.

Dial back your emotions/hormones some and you will have more success. Go read about dopamine/oxytocin.

Many of us here come to the same conclusions about you every time. We just want to see you have better success.

 

[Gamisch]

This is getting pathetic bro..someone needs to say it out loud.

She obviously deleted your number. And yes, Instagram is something women use to hoard their exes/lovers ect. To them its like the difference between giving a hand job and actually spreading her legs: to US is the same, for them is two different planets.

If you really got balls you also unfollow het, because we all know you are low key stalking her.
Let
Her
Go

 

[TheGambino]

You know what kind of girls play games? Insecure ones and/or ones with low interest. This one is both.

You're getting twisted up in your head like you do every time. Don't let your ego and emotional attachment cloud your vision to see this clearly.

You go on a few vacation style dates with a girl and are almost consumed with her. Thats too much. The right way to see this is "hey, I went on vacation, met this girl, lots of drinking & fun & laid back times. Anybody can like each other during those times". You know little about this girl and she knows little about you. But one thing she figured out is you cave pretty easy and are way too accomodating way too early. She saw that as weakness.

Also, it was just vacation. she might of had a boyfriend at home.

Dial back your emotions/hormones some and you will have more success. Go read about dopamine/oxytocin.

Many of us here come to the same conclusions about you every time. We just want to see you have better success.

That’s why I figured to go no contact

 

[TheGambino]

This is getting pathetic bro..someone needs to say it out loud.

She obviously deleted your number. And yes, Instagram is something women use to hoard their exes/lovers ect. To them its like the difference between giving a hand job and actually spreading her legs: to US is the same, for them is two different planets.

If you really got balls you also unfollow het, because we all know you are low key stalking her.
Let
Her
Go

I don’t know about that but i won’t text her and move on

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Also not contacting her will show her and myself a lot of things in this situation.

IF she comes back she knows stupid games won’t effect me but make me grow distant.

Also either if she’s playing games for me to chase or she is showing clear message that she’s not attracted anymore she will still respect me for not chasing like other 95% of the guys did with her or worse stalk her. Women only love men they respect.

it also shows she can’t manipulate me means she will view me as strong so more respect.

Also it shows myself I can move on from sh*t behavior which will upgrade self respect for every man.

She will miss me. She wonders where I stand.

This is the right decision. All good

Again, you are daydreaming about her and how she will come back to you, filled with regret, but now you learned your lesson and can show yourself as someone she has to respect...

You are being ridiculously emotionally invested in a fling. That's all there ever was. Move on. Really move on. Let it go. Erase all her contact info and connections. Move on. You dropped your ice cream on the sidewalk, but it's inedible now. Forget about it and get a new ice cream. Capisce?

 

[TheGambino]

Again, you are daydreaming about her and how she will come back to you, filled with regret, but now you learned your lesson and can show yourself as someone she has to respect...

You are being ridiculously emotionally invested in a fling. That's all there ever was. Move on. Really move on. Let it go. Erase all her contact info and connections. Move on. You dropped your ice cream on the sidewalk, but it's inedible now. Forget about it and get a new ice cream. Capisce?

I already did, I like choclat icecream thnx.