What to do now - dont want to make mistake

[TheGambino]

Just like when you saw your ex about a month ago at a bar holding hands with another guy, and you thought she was trying to get a reaction out of you, I hope you understand that this new girl isn’t doing things on WhatsApp to trick you into giving her attention.

You do seem to make a lot of assumptions about these wishy-washy girls, their actions, and how they are trying to seduce you in exchange for your commitment and interest.

I would be looking deeply as to why you are so invested in these women that literally treat you like crap and do not provide any benefits to your life. Talk to more women; I hope you are not like this with your male friends.

I will. Thanks.
So you think it’s low interest/over period?

if the answer is yes I will forget about her and move on if you think there could be nothing going on I will call her Saturday of next week somewhere.

Maybe I’m making false assumptions and she just deleted her profile pic. She still follows on Instagram and Snapchat

 

[Clockwerk50]

I will. Thanks.
So you think it’s low interest/over period?

if the answer is yes I will forget about her and move on if you think there could be nothing going on I will call her Saturday of next week somewhere.

Maybe I’m making false assumptions and she just deleted her profile pic. She still follows on Instagram and Snapchat

The current facts are that you can no longer see her picture on WhatsApp and you were the last to text her. When someone is highly interested, their actions are clear; they actively seek to maintain the relationship by staying in touch. For example, she would likely have sent you a message like "Good morning, Gambino," responded quickly, and done everything in her power to stay connected.

It does look like she is low interest, or the at very least, you are in the “break in case of emergency” bucket. Talk to more women so when or if she reaches out you don’t sound needy, irrational, emotional, and pathetic.

 

[TheGambino]

Deleted her number, moving on unless she texts. Case closed

I’m happy I can fall back on you guys like brothers. This forum has done wonderful things for me, still growing stronger everyday. By the way this girl is a absolute 10. Half Russian half Dutch blonde, slim, gorgeous face that’s the reason of all of this but my pride and self worth is worth more then a girl.

 

[Lotus Effect]

Vacation is similar to clubs/bar when you meet women.

It's a "fantasy world" where the normal realities don't exist. The club/bar for the night, the vacation for the time they are there.

The biggest mistake is guys think that because something happened on vacation that once they are back in the grind of the real world that things will just continue where they left off.

But that's not how it works. Once vacation ends, you are both in a different world and it's very hard to go from one world to the other no matter what happened or how many times you fvcked her.

High likelihood that you don't see her again. You should never expect anything to last once vacation ends. It's just a different mindset women are in when they are on vacation and they see it as something fun and exciting but then once they go home they are back to their "normal life" and usually the guy on vacation doesn't fit into that life.

Maybe things will be different but you should never expect anything that happens under those circumstances to continue after.

If anything you should keep it casual and light and have no expectations that anything will happen. Anything that does happen from this point forward is a bonus.

This.
When we were both back to 'real life', I had a girl once telling me up front 'Hey, that was vacay me, so things might play different out here'. It did.

No offense to any of you guys, I used to be frustrated by it as well.

Once you understand the game to a higher degree and start playing your hand correctly, it won't be frustrating anymore.

Its a turnoff to a woman when you act on your urges and tempations too often, even though they might like it at the moment.

All women want a leader(a solid rock). A leader doesn't give into someones wishes every time. She is looking for someone to define some boundaries, thats how she knows she can have faith in you later on in the relationship.

And this.

The Duke's view can even outplay the vacation card, because that is how you should act no matter when/where you meet up with a chick, and you can eventually meet on some vacay.

 

[TheGambino]

Also not contacting her will show her and myself a lot of things in this situation.

IF she comes back she knows stupid games won’t effect me but make me grow distant.

Also either if she’s playing games for me to chase or she is showing clear message that she’s not attracted anymore she will still respect me for not chasing like other 95% of the guys did with her or worse stalk her. Women only love men they respect.

it also shows she can’t manipulate me means she will view me as strong so more respect.

Also it shows myself I can move on from sh*t behavior which will upgrade self respect for every man.

She will miss me. She wonders where I stand.

This is the right decision. All good

 

[The Duke]

While I think this used to be true, I also percieve today's grandparents to be some of the worst influence on children's upbringing. I observe several of them in my wider family and they are awful. Too agreeable, too allowing for everything, too reacting to everything children do, needy for cuddling, kissing, don't teach the kids anything valuable, just weak and meek presence in children's lives. All they give them is "love" and they can't help themselves because they are addicted to seeing their grandchilldren 'cause they have nothing to do in lives. Just sad. Opposite of what it used to be. I usually find parents more stern than grandparents.
I had to get this out, lol

I understand where you are coming from and agree however, I'm referring to situations that go deeper than that. Thats not what I would consider "raising" someone. Thats just spoiling someone. It goes beyond being a grandparent. Its basically when grandparents with old school values step in and act more like parents than the actual grandparents.

 

[Canadian_Man]

Update: now she doesn’t have a profile picture on WhatsApp. So she either deleted my number or deleted her profile picture to test if I’m scared that she might blocked me to make me text her and find out so a test.

On Instagram and Snapchat were still followed and friends.

really weird sh1t…. Don’t know what to think about it.

My last message goodnight is still on grey not read

It’s probably just a test otherwise she would delete me off snap and IG means she wants me to reach out and make me think about her dududu

* I can see the status “Hi I use WhatsApp” so that means she didn’t block me just deleted her profile picture or deleted my number.

She’s playing games

You play games, so you see games.

Who knows what she is doing, it very well could have nothing to do with you.

 

[The Duke]

Update: now she doesn’t have a profile picture on WhatsApp. So she either deleted my number or deleted her profile picture to test if I’m scared that she might blocked me to make me text her and find out so a test.

On Instagram and Snapchat were still followed and friends.

really weird sh1t…. Don’t know what to think about it.

My last message goodnight is still on grey not read

It’s probably just a test otherwise she would delete me off snap and IG means she wants me to reach out and make me think about her dududu

* I can see the status “Hi I use WhatsApp” so that means she didn’t block me just deleted her profile picture or deleted my number.

She’s playing games

You know what kind of girls play games? Insecure ones and/or ones with low interest. This one is both.

You're getting twisted up in your head like you do every time. Don't let your ego and emotional attachment cloud your vision to see this clearly.

You go on a few vacation style dates with a girl and are almost consumed with her. Thats too much. The right way to see this is "hey, I went on vacation, met this girl, lots of drinking & fun & laid back times. Anybody can like each other during those times". You know little about this girl and she knows little about you. But one thing she figured out is you cave pretty easy and are way too accomodating way too early. She saw that as weakness.

Also, it was just vacation. she might of had a boyfriend at home.

Dial back your emotions/hormones some and you will have more success. Go read about dopamine/oxytocin.

Many of us here come to the same conclusions about you every time. We just want to see you have better success.

 

[Gamisch]

This is getting pathetic bro..someone needs to say it out loud.

She obviously deleted your number. And yes, Instagram is something women use to hoard their exes/lovers ect. To them its like the difference between giving a hand job and actually spreading her legs: to US is the same, for them is two different planets.

If you really got balls you also unfollow het, because we all know you are low key stalking her.
Let
Her
Go

 

[TheGambino]

You know what kind of girls play games? Insecure ones and/or ones with low interest. This one is both.

You're getting twisted up in your head like you do every time. Don't let your ego and emotional attachment cloud your vision to see this clearly.

You go on a few vacation style dates with a girl and are almost consumed with her. Thats too much. The right way to see this is "hey, I went on vacation, met this girl, lots of drinking & fun & laid back times. Anybody can like each other during those times". You know little about this girl and she knows little about you. But one thing she figured out is you cave pretty easy and are way too accomodating way too early. She saw that as weakness.

Also, it was just vacation. she might of had a boyfriend at home.

Dial back your emotions/hormones some and you will have more success. Go read about dopamine/oxytocin.

Many of us here come to the same conclusions about you every time. We just want to see you have better success.

That’s why I figured to go no contact

 

[TheGambino]

This is getting pathetic bro..someone needs to say it out loud.

She obviously deleted your number. And yes, Instagram is something women use to hoard their exes/lovers ect. To them its like the difference between giving a hand job and actually spreading her legs: to US is the same, for them is two different planets.

If you really got balls you also unfollow het, because we all know you are low key stalking her.
Let
Her
Go

I don’t know about that but i won’t text her and move on

 

[TheGambino]

Again, you are daydreaming about her and how she will come back to you, filled with regret, but now you learned your lesson and can show yourself as someone she has to respect...

You are being ridiculously emotionally invested in a fling. That's all there ever was. Move on. Really move on. Let it go. Erase all her contact info and connections. Move on. You dropped your ice cream on the sidewalk, but it's inedible now. Forget about it and get a new ice cream. Capisce?

I already did, I like choclat icecream thnx.

 

[TheGambino]

But what exactly you like a lot about her? Other women have puzzies too, and if you ask me, is better to be with a 6-7 someone sane who don't play games than being with a 8-9 who is broken, damaged, plays games, ghosts and a bunch of $hit.

Being with a hot women is mostly ego, even if she's crazy the ego doesn't wanna let go cause she's hot.

But you'll be amazed how calm, relax and fun life is with someone not so hot.

@All_Kindz_Of_Gainz
I’ll tell you. She likes the same things as me, working out going to fancy restaurants luxurious things, dancing same style. We both entrepreneurs I’m on a waaaaaay higher lever then she but okay. We like the same vacation styles, like what we like to do. We like to go to the same restaurants and bars, same music tast we were both rapping songs we knew out of our heads, best body type I like, blonde what i like, piercings where I want she’s a boss lady like. She doesn’t cave to sh*t we reacted the same on sh*t that happened and always agreed, same life values she wants daughters me also. Cex was amazing, her clothing style is exactly how I like it nails done hair done. We watch the same series and movies. She respected me, when guys approached her she hid behind me. Making out was good, she also showed 100% interest touching grinding holding my hands everything a girl does with extreme high interest. We are just a match what I saw last week but believe me I kept distance, I let her be, when she walked away to her friends didn’t chase her when she went out smoking or toilet for 40 minutes I didn’t follow her, when guys hit on her I acted like I didn’t notice. When group of guys she knew from last year vacation approached her I just smiled and didn’t act needy or insecure. I played it absolutely perfect sometimes she asked me sh*t I didn’t want to do I said no.
It’s just the full package of a woman I’m looking for ltr. Here’s the reasons.

 

[Lotus Effect]

At OP.

You are close, but no cigar!

Congratz on pulling hot chicks. It means you understand the rules of the game and must have something going on for you.
On the other side, after you land a hot babe, its a new game. And this one, you are still to master.

Relax, you will get there. This what you going thru with this woman right now might help you with that.
But just know, you lost this one. She has not lose you.

You lost this round. Thats a hard pill to swallow, goes straight for the ego, but it is what it is.
No problem tho, you win some, you learn some.

I highly recommend you rereading what was posted by Amsterdam, Diver, Duke, Gamish, Rainrain and Canadian Man.
They got it.

First thing is accepting that it was your fault and yours alone that scared her away. The Duke said it properly, so no need to repeat it. But it was your douchebaggery + suffocation whose sealed the deal. Rainrain reinforces this when he advises you to talk to other women to not sound pathetic and needy if she comes back.

Pro tip: She is NOT coming back.

Since you are so invested, you are failing to see that there are no games, as canadian man said. And if there is a game, you are playing by yourself. She is long gone in the c0ck carroussel man.

There is absolutely no chance that she, a woman, mid thirty, 10, hot asf, would be deleting her profile pic just to get a reaction from a guy she is not replying, and which was clearly a fling.

You gotta see it straight mate. People have more things to do with their lifes, and since whatsapp is such a big deal/tool, that she uses to connect to her friends, family and possibly for work related situations, she would not go that lenght for a random dude from 2 weeks ago.

Again, relax, I was there, as I guess everyone on this site.
Bottomline, trust the users opinion, specially if you are talking about 'that girl´

Read an old post of mine. It is very helpful in this matter. I've tagged you on it!

Cheers, and congratz guys!

 

[TheGambino]

Okay thanks all, all indicators say it’s over, case closed. I accept it and move on, won’t block her or delete her ig snap but won’t watch any stories. Case closed.

 

[TheGambino]

At OP.

You are close, but no cigar!

Congratz on pulling hot chicks. It means you understand the rules of the game and must have something going on for you.
On the other side, after you land a hot babe, its a new game. And this one, you are still to master.

Relax, you will get there. This what you going thru with this woman right now might help you with that.
But just know, you lost this one. She has not lose you.

You lost this round. Thats a hard pill to swallow, goes straight for the ego, but it is what it is.
No problem tho, you win some, you learn some.

I highly recommend you rereading what was posted by Amsterdam, Diver, Duke, Gamish, Rainrain and Canadian Man.
They got it.

First thing is accepting that it was your fault and yours alone that scared her away. The Duke said it properly, so no need to repeat it. But it was your douchebaggery + suffocation whose sealed the deal. Rainrain reinforces this when he advises you to talk to other women to not sound pathetic and needy if she comes back.

Pro tip: She is NOT coming back.

Since you are so invested, you are failing to see that there are no games, as canadian man said. And if there is a game, you are playing by yourself. She is long gone in the c0ck carroussel man.

There is absolutely no chance that she, a woman, mid thirty, 10, hot asf, would be deleting her profile pic just to get a reaction from a guy she is not replying, and which was clearly a fling.

You gotta see it straight mate. People have more things to do with their lifes, and since whatsapp is such a big deal/tool, that she uses to connect to her friends, family and possibly for work related situations, she would not go that lenght for a random dude from 2 weeks ago.

Again, relax, I was there, as I guess everyone on this site.
Bottomline, trust the users opinion, specially if you are talking about 'that girl´

Read an old post of mine. It is very helpful in this matter. I've tagged you on it!

Cheers, and congratz guys!

which post? @Lotus Effect

I see her profile picture again now so she didn’t delete my number/ playing stupid games obv.

Anyhow this immature crap annoys me, I’m done.

 

[Gamisch]

@All_Kindz_Of_Gainz
I’ll tell you. She likes the same things as me, working out going to fancy restaurants luxurious things, dancing same style. We both entrepreneurs I’m on a waaaaaay higher lever then she but okay. We like the same vacation styles, like what we like to do. We like to go to the same restaurants and bars, same music tast we were both rapping songs we knew out of our heads, best body type I like, blonde what i like, piercings where I want she’s a boss lady like. She doesn’t cave to sh*t we reacted the same on sh*t that happened and always agreed, same life values she wants daughters me also. Cex was amazing, her clothing style is exactly how I like it nails done hair done. We watch the same series and movies. She respected me, when guys approached her she hid behind me. Making out was good, she also showed 100% interest touching grinding holding my hands everything a girl does with extreme high interest. We are just a match what I saw last week but believe me I kept distance, I let her be, when she walked away to her friends didn’t chase her when she went out smoking or toilet for 40 minutes I didn’t follow her, when guys hit on her I acted like I didn’t notice. When group of guys she knew from last year vacation approached her I just smiled and didn’t act needy or insecure. I played it absolutely perfect sometimes she asked me sh*t I didn’t want to do I said no.
It’s just the full package of a woman I’m looking for ltr. Here’s the reasons.

To give you a positive closure:.
Most women like vacations, dancing, fancy restaurants, working out ( so they stay hot) , and ESPECIALLY luxurious shyte.

You can literally trade her in for a "chocolate version" and all will be the same. You just described 95% of women. You should know that bro..

This thread , including my own answers, reminds me of my detachment from my ex who I've been with for TEN YEARS. Had to tell me self that eventually she is just a woman ,as @All_Kindz_Of_Gainz says, with just a p00sy, and at the end of the day she was nothing more special then the next one...(10 years attachment vs 1 vacation..)

Delete nr, unfollow her and move on.

 

[Lotus Effect]

I agree on deleting and unfollowing.

It’s best for your mental health.

Keeping her there won’t allow you to move on, as you will be always hoping that she is secretly watching your stuff. Which she is not.

 

[TheGambino]

To give you a positive closure:.
Most women like vacations, dancing, fancy restaurants, working out ( so they stay hot) , and ESPECIALLY luxurious shyte.

You can literally trade her in for a "chocolate version" and all will be the same. You just described 95% of women. You should know that bro..

This thread , including my own answers, reminds me of my detachment from my ex who I've been with for TEN YEARS. Had to tell me self that eventually she is just a woman ,as @All_Kindz_Of_Gainz says, with just a p00sy, and at the end of the day she was nothing more special then the next one...(10 years attachment vs 1 vacation..)

Delete nr, unfollow her and move on.

Deleted number. I won’t delete IG or snap. I will post my awesome lifestyle, almost shredded need 3-4 more kgs to lose and she will see me shine like a Mf the next years. Also the there’s a chance she will reach out if I don’t delete her and I can fvck her again. I will look bvtthert if I delete and block her. Idc anymore man I mean it

 

[TheGambino]

I agree on deleting and unfollowing.

It’s best for your mental health.

Keeping her there won’t allow you to move on, as you will be always hoping that she is secretly watching your stuff. Which she is not.

I don’t care anymore I’m not so attached as you think because I see that she lost interest. And I know there’s nothing I can do.
Women come back all the time after a while so she could come back. I’m seeing another girl tommorow and I’m on the grind don’t worry bro thanks so much for your time.