Kudos that you overcame challenges and leveled up. You'll see though that just like in other facets of life, leveling up is logarithmic in progress. After a certain point, things become very, very incremental at best, and stagnant if not depreciating as the norm, particularly as we all succumb to the aging process.
I mean you're the same guy that says he's smashed 2/3 of his women without a condom and claims to not have had any issues (that you're aware of), so I'm gonna respectfully ignore your advice on this matter, based on your advice on that one.
yes there are guys that are just ugly, but your average looking guy which accounts for most men can become an 8 with work. Even if you are ugly, there are things you can do to nichemax your way in to some pvssy. Best example is Post Malone, that guy is ugly as sin, but because of his brand he would be getting laid regardless of his celebrity status or not.
I see a ton of guys that work out in the gym, but with clothes on they look like they don't even lift.
Average is a 5. Do you think a 5 can be an 8? We’re not talking about social proof, we’re talking raw physical appeal here.
The gym alone is not going to turn an average guy in to an 8 unless he only goes for girls that specifically value muscles more than looks. The optimal return a guy can get out of the gym is a muscular/leanish 13-16% BF look. Afterwards, he needs to work on making himself into a brand or a persona that benefits him. That will bump him more points or even beyond an 8 depending on his location and timing. The issue is that every guy is trying to lookmax into a Chad which does not work, and they end up stuck as a 6-7. For example, if you are not white or have a receding hairline then you need to stop trying to morph yourself into this Chad Prototype. There's plenty of attractive types that suit bald men or non-white men.
I agree and that is why aiming for a Chad look is pointless. Not every woman likes the Chad look, so you might not be an 8+ to the Blonde Barbie you are trying to impress, but you will be an 8+ to another girl.
Raw Physical Appeal is irrelevant and doesn't even apply to dating dynamics. The only three things that are safely fundamental are being in physically good shape, height, and maintaining proper hygiene. Otherwise, everything else is variable because women have different preferences. For example, Usher can easily be considered a 1/10 by a girl that refuses to date black men, or Brad Pitt be heavily penalized for having God knows what.
I don't think Gamisch really hates me. He's more annoyed that I'm not susceptible to the 'angst' that makes so many guys on this forum anxious and self-conscious around women. If G doesn't mess up, he might make it to my age, and realise that there's more to attraction than a six-pack and six figures.
True, but the moment you use numbered grades to rate aesthetics in humans, you're stacking the deck against yourself.
A theoretical 8 on paper for a man is not competitive on the market when you factor in hypergamy & the micro preferences women have. I consider myself an 8-8.5 and I do not have it easy with women because most women outside the stereotypical groups do not find black men attractive. You can be a 6/10 man and have it easier than an 8/10 male if you put yourself in the right environment. Women do not think like men when it comes to attraction in which only 2-3 physical attributes heavily outweigh the others.
Ergo "dating down" isn't real.
