Wanna date successfully? Date DOWN!!

[CornbreadFed]

In that case, I already secured mine.
So I'm free to entertain my kittens.

AmsterdamSwiftyAssassin

 

[Gamisch]

I am doing maintenance in a vacation park. Soley young couples with young kids. No such thing as a group of friends who're renting a spot. Soley young couples

And I've hardly ever seen an hb7 or more. I work there every day, they have over a 1000 houses and its always packed. So I've seen thousands of couples and the most common theme was ALWAYS that the dude had similar or more smv than her.

Previously I used to look DOWN on such a man so I didn't even payed attention to it. Lately however, I start to see things differently.

I think most men (like most women'!!) don't even realise that they have 10 options and they ditch 8 of them by default, only to chase the two options that are actually most out of reach.

In that case, I already secured mine.
So I'm free to entertain my kittens.

Yes. You have. Me too. But plenty of men don't.

Imagine being 30 and wishing for a legacy, while simultaneously trying to do this with a hb7 plus and soley relying on apps,while you get NOTHING. Such a man would (imo) be better off by lowering his standards.

Has nothing to do with fatalism or something like that. Its realism.

By the way , WAY before i ever knew about the RP this was a strategy that's been deployed by default in my culture ( Caribbean): you take one default bytch who treats you right. Mostly she'll won't have the highest smv.

The high smv h0es get treated like snacks. Its common knowledge that the hotter she is, the less she'll fit for legacy purposes.

 

[Divorced w 3]

This is such a loser mindset i cant even

 

[Gamisch]

This is such a loser mindset i cant even

Finish my sentence?

Whats the winner mentally? Chasing a woman who doesn't even want you??

This is actually the opposite: a WINNER ( aka someone who doesn't lose) means knowing your bracket and act accordingly.

This is the REAL problem tho: someone like poster i respond to basically admits he lools DOWN on a man who says he's happy with his woman despite her not being yhe hottest girl in class.

Still imma salute such a guy: he doesn't try to impress other people, he just wants a wamr family, peace love and security.

He has eyes..he knows there are hotter women. Yet he's satisfied with what he has....I don't know how that makes him the loser

 

[Divorced w 3]

Finish my sentence?

Whats the winner mentally? Chasing a woman who doesn't even want you??

This is actually the opposite: a WINNER ( aka someone who doesn't lose) means knowing uour bracket and act accordingly.

I love this place lately the red pill is self destructing and i am here for it

 

[Gamisch]

I love this place lately the red pill is self destructing and i am here for it

Due to neanderthal- ish responses like this.

The redpill, and basically most male communities are unable to think outside of the box. I know, you rather have a hot woman who makes your life hard so other men "respect" you.

How can YOU not be aware of this lol? Every dude that's been around the bloc knows this. Every single man who been through the trenches of dating and is older than 35 probably ditched the right woman to be with a hot but toxic one

I am one who regrets this, and one who starts looking at beta Bob completely different. No shame in that

 

[Gamisch]

Anyone who rates women deserves whatever the fock he gets.
Anyone who solely relies on dating apps deserves whatever the fock he gets.


I'm sorry, but you're a maintenance worker in a vacation park? Can't spell 'solely' but believe you have valuable dating advice? Hubris.

Grumpy old man screams at cloud.

Great way to go, diss another man's job while you're sitting at home all day watching pron and creating a fantasy life that nobody believes is true. I need to be a lawyer in order to give dating advice what do you actually do besides typing all day on qoura reddit and sosauve?

You look like you just escaped from a elderly home and claim you have "kittens". GTFO. Your smv is 3 at BEST.

You are ravaging the forum with your negativity lately . Why dont you actually ADD something valuable?

Ah now a typo determines whether a man is allowed to give advice? I am a CERTIFIED Tyrone bruh. Let ANY woman choose between the two of us and 99 ,9 out of a 100 times she'll pick me over you haha

Yes. Lets listen to a 60 year old fart who has a pirate eye and walks around with a nasty cat on his shoulder. I bet that dude has the best dating advice. You are a charlatan and it's clear as day to everyone, gramma.

 

[Dr.Suave]

As enterteining as you are, brothers, Lets keep it civil

 

[CornbreadFed]

@Gamisch everything is Anecdotal on the internet. Anything you say can easily be refuted with some bullshvt story pulled out of a poster's arse. I do not think the crap I say on here is too extreme or impossible for the average man, but people want to live on and be sold a dream most of the time.

 

[CheekyMonkey101]

I've dated both above my league and below my league. My last two gfs were below me (and they knew it) and they'd spoil me quite often.

Pluses to both, but women want to date up and won't really respect you if you're not superior to her in some way.

I've also been rejected by girls way below looks level in the past and I just assume that these girls are insane.

 

[Velasco]

women want to date up and won't really respect you if you're not superior to her in some way

Right. Things like having your own place, your own car, making more money than her, knowing more things than her. Are some ways that show superiority to a hot girl in her prime (17-20).

settling for Plain Jane isn't going to do anything except make you wish you had a hotter GF/wife.

Yeah. Been there done that with a plain Jane. Not even what CheekyMonkey101 is talking about above with the 'spoiling' was enough to keep me from cheating on them and treating them like sh1t.

When you have a hot girl. You want to keep them around. That's not to say you spoil them same as an ugly girl would to you (cause her to take u for granted), but that means going on dates, fvcking her multiple rounds each time, and being loyal. Aren't things you feel like you HAVE to do. But because you WANT to. Plain Jane ain't gonna make me want to do any of that

 

[Solomon]

This is such a loser mindset i cant even

When I was dating the ugliest women in my life was when I was broke and out of shape
Once I got in shape and my money got better the women got better as well.... coincidence? I don't think so
I get what OP is saying you get in where you fit in, however if you want better you gotta step your life game up

 

[pipeman84]

Every man wants a hb8,5 whose loyal,easygoing ect. Unfortunately that's NOT realistic. I've learned that through trail and error.

Another one who didn't get that memo: Odell Beckham Jr
A 31yrs old pro athlete dating a 43yrs old mom of 4 with 3 ex husbands, one of which is insane? Are you fvcking kidding me? I wouldn't fvck an escort if I knew she has 4 kids. And this guy is dating her?
There are some really weird people out there.

 

[BeExcellent]

Ah yes. Famous song rooted in Carribean culture:

This wisdom has been around for awhile.

 

[Jor-El]

The great danger of this life,is not that we aim to high and fail ,but that we aim to low,and succeed

 

[Black Widow Void]

"Dating down" should only be at bar closing time... when you're drunk and she looks better than your hand.

Surrendering any part of your freedom (for more than one night) to that which is considered "low hanging fruit" should never be an option.

 

[CornbreadFed]

OP is not advising men to date unattractive women; rather, suggesting that they consider lowering their expectations by 1-2 points to successfully engage in relationships. If a man finds himself dating unattractive women, it may indicate his own lack of attractiveness or a tendency towards laziness or passivity. With effort, any man can improve his attractiveness to a range between 7 and 8.5, making dating a woman rated between 6 and 8 not an association with unattractiveness by any definition.

Ultimately, raw physical attraction forms the foundation and stability of any relationship. Without it, the relationship may collapse unexpectedly. The resistance to this idea seems to come from older Millennials and members of Generation X who grew up without the dominance of social media and swipe apps in the dating scene & taking advantage of the previous fading legal guardianship world. In the past, individuals could temporarily date more attractive partners by leveraging factors such as status, wealth, social connections, timing, or being the first choice. However, these relationships often lack lasting power due to the absence of genuine physical attraction from the female partner's perspective. Gen Z does not have the benefit of the doubt of experiencing these types of relationships because they grew up with social media & swipe apps.

It's important to recognize that the female partner is not oblivious to the man's perceived lack of attractiveness or his shortcomings. Constant questioning from others about why she is with him can undermine the relationship's stability and cause insecurity.

 

[Millard Fillmore]

Hmm down according to whom?

If according to society then it's a collection of individual opinions, all of which are subjective and varied. Not healthy to do things because others say so.

If according to numero uno then it's either ascribing value up or down based on random qualities and putting her or yourself on a pedestal. Again not wise. And again "society" may disagree.

I guess I get the spirit of the OP, she'll supposedly be more compliant. But that shouldn't be a problem if you have frame. And if she isn't compliant (strays etc) that's also not a problem for a guy with frame. So my take is date the women that give you boners.

 

[Pandora]

There's fat,ugly and there's HOT.

In between there are still plenty of layers..

But hey, that's the purpose of this thread. A critical look back at ones dating life .from the 10 women you've encountered, how nany of them did YOU reject to see if there's " something better ".


Let me ask ya: how does this mindset of having high standards works out so far? Perhaps you are missing out on something nice because you want a hot woman whose loyal and yadiya aka one that doesn't exist in YOUR reality. Perhaps plane Jane was your solution all that time

But here ya are, on a seduction forum where men share how to get women in the year 2001( still dre).

Yeh brother. That mindset of there is something better almost destroyed me. I could have been married with kids now to a decently behaved slightly chubby chick many times. Or a butter face. I passed them up and until my fiance found nothing but trash.

We blame women for fomo but us men do the same thing.

 

[CornbreadFed]

I guess I get the spirit of the OP, she'll supposedly be more compliant. But that shouldn't be a problem if you have frame. And if she isn't compliant (strays etc) that's also not a problem for a guy with frame. So my take is date the women that give you boners.

You aren't going to attract a girl with just frame alone and frame can fluctuate. Let's say you got a hotter girl by niche maxxing and being the only available option at the time, and your frame becomes soft due to life stress or something. She is likely to either start acting masculine or leave you on the spot.